Is there an optimal daily dose of vitamin D for immune function? | Roger Seheult
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- Vitamin D's recommended daily allowance was established based on its role in bone metabolism. It remains unknown whether these levels are sufficient for optimal immunological functioning. A large meta-analysis of 32 studies, spanning nearly 50 years, suggests that 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels below 30 ng/mL are associated with a higher risk of death from all causes. In the context of COVID-19, a large associative study suggested that lower 25-hydroxyvitamin D are strongly associated with higher SARS-CoV-2 test positivity rates. In this clip, Dr. Roger Seheult and Dr. Rhonda Patrick discuss how to assess vitamin D requirements and its toxicity potential.
This clip was taken from the FoundMyFitness interview with Roger Seheult found at • Dr. Roger Seheult from...
Original episode published on March 3, 2021
🤯 #COVID19 #immunity #vitaminD #sleep 🦠
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Whats the best vit d
I’ve been taking vitamin D 3 with Vitamin K 2 and haven’t been sick since and no vaccination either…plus I ride a bicycle 150 miles a week…70 years old this March
What about vitamin K2 combined with vitamin D.
I do this just so I don’t end up having heart problems. Is this true Foundmyfitness?
No matter how much vitamin D you take, you must test for 25 hydroxyvitamin D levels. I take 20,000 IU of Vitamin D with K2 per day and my levels are between 60 and 90, perfect for me but would not be appropriate for someone else. Remember, if you don't test, you don't know! I would like a video that stresses this kind of concept.
Been taking Vitamin D3 for over 30 years now. I've never had the flu, imagine that :). I live in Michigan, so I take 5,000 IUs between March 28 and Sept. 28. After that I go to 10,000 til the spring. My range is between 70-90 ng/ml. 67 and Thriving!
You also are likely more immune to covid than these idiots getting jabbed with the snake oil!
I do the exact same thing, Northern NJ. Haven't got the sweet n sour sniffles yet...
Thanx George. Will adopt your numbers to try. I took 2000 iu's daily but still got the Delta. Now on 5000 daily with K2 , and my Zinc and Magnesium , vit C.
Will switch to 6000 a day now till September this year then boost up to 10,000 .
@@daikayll1897 Did you have to go to the hospital with the covid? Two of my relatives that got it didn't. One other relative that didn't supplement D got covid and died from it. (fat, overweight, ate junk food.)
@@glasslinger That's a bit harsh to call it snake oil. There's nothing wrong with just saying adequate Vitamin D and decent natural immunity provide better and safer protection while minimizing side effects against Covid.
I went to see my family doctor and she was totally appalled that I was taking 6000 IU of Vitamin D. She thinks that's way too high and says most of her patients are on 1000 IU. She is like most medical doctors. Not keeping up to speed on the latest research. A patient shouldn't be educating their doctor on health. A patient shouldn't know more than their doctor.
I would be interested to know about how you would describe your outlook being that dosage. Are you happy and care free, with out worrying too much about the little things or do you feel more ambitious and feel you could conquer the world for example?
Believe me when I say these people don’t deserve their jobs
There's no Scientific Study showing that taking more than 1000 I.U a day is beneficial. There is also no ideal Vitamin D Blood level.
She just hasn't read all the current the literature on D3.
So you're generalising one very small subject and applying it to overall knowledge base? That seems retarded. Your doctor will be hyper intelligent. That's why they're a doctor.
I take between 8-10,000 IU a day, and have done for around 10 years now. It is absolutely critical for good health, in my opinion.
How's your blood levels?
Me as well and I stay right in the 80-100nml range which is right where I want to be. Haven't even had a cold in 4 years
Do you take Vit K2 with it? I'm unable to tolerate K2 so that puts me off increasing my Vit D3 levels.
Do you take K2 for the calcium
@@leviseba I have a news flash for you. "Blood levels" are a scam. We've been lied to about everything in this Matrix we live in. This nation don't want healthy people. They make billions on the backs of keeping people sick. Wake up. If someone tells you they cured issues and feel amazing you might want to listen to that over what the blood levels were. I read all through these comments and see people talking about curing health issues and bones and everyone's reply is, "oh no what's your blood levels I was told by my "Dr" "which is your peoples god" that's that's unhealthy. News flash your Drs were paid and trained by the Rockefeller foundation. They don't want you healthy period. So never forget this comment
I had knee pain for 8 years (especially when climbing stairs). I am 55 years old living in the UK.
I tried sports and physio for a year with very little to no progress until I started taking D3, 8000 IU and 200mcg K2 a day. Four months later the pain is gone. No going back now!
Similar age, and it’s one of the things I noticed after a few months of 4000IU a day, definitely less to no aching joints. Up to 6000 a day currently, as I was aiming for >50ng/mL, and was at 38ng/mL after a year on the lower dose.
Yes me too😀😀
Knee pain as in joint? Can you describe it in more detail?
I'm much younger but my weak knees went away after I started supplementing D3
@Bob I noticed that too!
I started taking vitamin D in April of 2020 after seeing one of your videos. I got COVID in December of 2020. It was very mild. After 5 days, I went for a test and was negative. I’m not in good shape and I have high blood pressure. I’m pretty sure that vitamin D helped me. Thank you.
does anyone have an idea if getting vaccine - ( even 2 doses of vaaccine) brings levels of Vit D down? feeling pretty nauseaous and fatigued all the time since late december after taking that poison ! how do I get out of this annoying state of misery :) ?????
if you suffer from high blood pressure - try having celery juice - it has iron and selenium, magnesium and they will stabilize it -
@@anna_256 dont put that crap in your body. we already have abnormal mortalities here in europe, not from covid and nobody is talking about it
For 4 years I have been eating 20,000 units daily, of course with K2, Vitamin A and Magnesium. My level of 25 OH is 117 and during this time I have recovered from my allergy, improved my strength and had no severe course of diseases, where previously I had pneumonia twice a season on average.
@@bjoshua1980 3000 UG, but not every day. 2-3 Times per week.
20k!?
@@Coral_dude yeah,is that big dosage 4 u?
How much magnesium?
My wife and I are in our late 50s and have been taking 5000 -7000 IU of D3 per day since the beginning of the pandemic. We were in close quarters with several family members that all got COVID this past fall. My wife and I never got ill. Now, I understand it could be coincidence but one thing for sure, we will continue our supplementation routine as long as this threat continues.
Yeah, as far as my understanding goes, vitamin D supplementation is cheap and harmless (if you stay within recommended doses). So worst case scenario nothing really happens.
I did the 10 000 a day felt fine did it for 6 months way before covid now on 3000 k2 spray oil into the mouth. Leave out the K vitamin with blood thinners etc.
Do you take it with K2?
I have been taking 2,000 to 3,000 IU but planning on going up 5,000 IU along with 120 mcg of K2.
Same here. I got sick twice in 2019 when I was vitamin d deficient. The last time I got sick was over 2 years ago. Never got sick during the pandemic when I started getting sunlight and supplementing. You don't wanna get sick during covid!!!
Greetings from Malta...I've been taking 5000 D3 + Zinc daily for the past 16 months , recently I've also started taking K2 to prevent calcification. I also take VIt C + B complex & capsules of organic Turmeric,Ginger & black pepper . Stay safe ✌️
You live in Malta and you need d3 supplements... is there not sun 365days / year??
@@organiced9805 not quite 365 days a year . I have an autoimmune condition ,so I haven't really been out much in the past 2 years..that coupled with stringent mask laws in Malta , make it hard for me to be out in the sun enough to gain any real benefit.
@@fourtails1192 agreed I live in socal and still that first year being locked in doors I missed my summer dose of vitamin d. Now I supplement
check ur blood. too much zinkight deplete you from absorbing other vitamins, same with vit C
Roger Seheult is one of the very few intellectually honest doctors left in America.
big pharma has really shit the bed huh
Diagnosed with oral cancer 6 years ago, had to argue really hard with my family doctor just to even get a vit.D level test on my bloodwork, he argued over and over I didn't present any symptoms of Rickets. Anyways after going back and forth about me needing to know this information he reluctantly agreed, I tested at something like 9ng/mL or something ridiculously in the deficient range. Supplemented with 10k units a day for a year, through my treatments just to get back into "optimal" range. I sure wish I had this information 7 years ago, pisses me off that so many doctors even refuse to run a test.
Anyways, found a new dr. The side effects of radiation treatment are now the thing I'm left with trying to manage the rest of my life. I still supplement with ~8,000 IU daily and it seems to be keeping me in the mid-40s range.
most family doctors are woefully or willingly ignorant about D3
Yeah I’ve asked for my D level when I’ve had blood work in the past. The doc has looked surprised and asked why do I want to know that and then said no.
Thanks for sharing this story! Ever look into medicinal mushrooms?
@@billmoyer3254 Nutrition as well.
@@alexsoscia3699 I am planning on doing a trip when the time is right, but I don't even know where to get safe ones.
It’s not a vitamin it’s a hormone. Also when I was a life guard in San Diego for ten years my levels were 200. Never took supplements I was well tanned all day every day and did not use sun screen. Was never sick had excellent cholesterol 120 total with 80 hdl and 59 triglycerides. Kick ass immune system.
If one is worried about hypercalcemina, the thing to worry about is lack of vitamin K2. And if you get that from eggs, stinking cheese and Sauerkraut, you get a bunch of other beneficial nutrients too. There is a reason big pharma has been hating on eggs for 50 years - 2 eggs per day GREATLY hurt their profits (and improve your health, if spite isn't what you live for...)
Does it matter how I have my eggs
@@Ohkeh640 Yes, but not much. You destroy some vitamin Bs if you cook or fry them too hard, so raw is the best, but all the minerals and most other vitamins are still there.
If you burn them, then more nutrients will be destroyed, of course.
But this is just what I'm heard, so take that egg with a grain of Himalayan salt.
Big Pharma hates eggs? Since when? You do know that many of the big Pharma Companies also sell some of the most popular vitamin supplements like D and K2 right?
@@bernthenrikwallin6609 Is Himalayan salt beneficial?
@@Ohkeh640 whites must be set to get what you need. Yolk soft/runny is best.
I learned many years ago that I don’t get cold or flu when my Vitamin D levels approach 60. I need 10,000 IU to maintain this level. But before mega-dosing, it’s worth asking your doctor to get a blood test (in the US, you can also order your own labs from Quest or Labcorp through online middle men). Based on test results and other information, you can use online calculators to determine how much vitamin D you need to take to reach the 50’s. There’s even a new calculator that will give you a “loading dose” to quickly bring your levels up in a week or two (based on the 30 day half life of Vitamin D, it usually takes 3 months to reach your target blood levels).
How do you order labs from quest or labcorp without a Dr’s script?
@@cindyh710 If you’re in the US you can get tested at local Quest and Labcorp locations. You order through online middlemen (I usually use Health Tests Direct, but there’s lots of competition, just make sure they have lab locations near you). The Health Tests Direct lab I used is the Vitamin D lab that’s most commonly recommended (also the cheapest, Quest Test #17306, 25-OH “Hydroxy” Vitamin D).
@@FreedomFox1 great info thx!!
The Vitamin Companies like to lie about how much you need to supplement. The truth is most don't need to.
@@televisionarchivestudios1130 if you eat Natural foods most things are fine however at high latitudes you most likely do not get enough vitamin D.
And you need to have more if you are heavy
If you take a lot of vitamin D3, you have to make sure that you're also taking in sufficient k2. As I understand it, k2 directs calcium to the bones and away from the arteries.
Yup
I'm 39, male, UK. When I started working from home (prior to COVID, in the beforetime) I started feeling tired all the time. Literally all the time. I'd be going to bed just after 11, waking up just before 8 and feeling tired all day. I'd typically fall asleep for 30 minutes to an hour in the afternoon and I'd still be tired. It got to the stage where I couldn't go out after 7pm as I was too tired. Then I started taking Vitamin D supplements. I started on 5mcg per day (as recommended by the NHS), then moved to 12.5 or 25mcg depending on what was available at the supermarket. Within 3 months I was back to how I was as a teenager. I can now be up till 2am every night, wake up at 8, and not feel tired during the day.
i recently retired from a package delivery company after 28 years...my knee pain would not go away but because of covid started taking 10000 IU of D3..got out of bed one morning and couldn't figure what was wrong till i realized most of the pain was gone!
I notice when I get multiple days of sun with my shirt off for an hour my joints start feeling better and I’m way more energetic
also glucosamine with chondroitin helps
amd collagen. that s what my ortopedic doctor gave me (vit D as well)
Ive been taking 10,000 a day for at least five years.
What was your blood level last time you had it checked?
I'd like to take 10k IU per day as a maintenance dose. It's comforting that one of the studies mentioned found that to be safe. And that Seheult asserts blood levels rise logarithmically compared to dosage.
@@seanglaze7284 If you take such high doses, i think its also advisable to do the vitamin D tests so you can monitor and adjust the intake. Getting Vitamin D from the sun is different from supplements like D3.
@@seanglaze7284 MY A1C was around 5 last October during a physical.
I normally take 10000/day although I have taken 20000 and even 30000/day and no side effects. I feel comfortable taking 10000/day in the winter and it has helped greatly with inflammation, arthritis and lower back pain and knee pain.
Do you take vit k2 with it?
At age 75, 5ft11in, 230 lbs, pushes me above 30 BMI, I need the higher dosage. I used 20,000 IUs per day with K2 (MK7) 100mcg x 2 to keep the calcium in bones and teeth. I had two tests in the last year, one hit 150 ng/ml and the second one 6 months later was 121 ng/ml. There are three books on Amazon that advocate the high dose regimen between 100 to 140 ng/ml. With my age and slower metabolism the higher levels work, teeth are very firm. I have no health issues other than my weight. Need to walk more working on that. I also take magnesium since it helps on calcium distribution, among its many benefits.
150 ng/ml? you mean 150 nmol/L, higher than that is not good. keep it between 100 and 150 nmol/L
@@harleysushi9163 Actually it's not some graphs out there say 120-160 is considered a therapeutic dose for sick people. The guidelines actually aren't real or based in science they're just thrown around estimates to prevent hypercalcymia. Dr. Sommerville looked at the data they came up with these numbers from and they said it was only 350ng that they saw problems but wanted to be safe and split it by a third and hence came to 100ng as the upper limit. It's not actually scientifically backed just estimates based on certain criteria they found in subjects that did have hypercalcymia.
One of the reasons why it goes down over time is that it initially boosts your blood quickly, which is why you can take 50,000 or 100,000 once a week for a month and get good tests, but further research shows it goes down because it eventually needs to store the excess and that is where the fat comes into play. So it would make sense depending on the individual that initially they show 150ng and 1 or 2 years later at that same dose may stabalize to 70-80ng as it begins to fill up the tank so to speak being your fat cells. There's no way to calculate how much D3 is in your fat cells so blood levels only tell you so far, but it's safe to say if you are at 60-80ng on a consistent basis it's slowly going to build them all up over a long period of time.
Me too. I don't believe vitamin D is toxic at all.
@@bison891 I heard that too from Dr Renu Mahtani.
“Exponential but the reverse of exponential”...if only there were a term for that..:
ikr lmao
DR. Seheult IS BASED. His videos , I calculate, has saved thousands.
Based and redpilled???
Just found out 2 weeks ago that my vitamin d level is 8 😳 now just tested positive for covid , by the grace of god I’m not doing too bad , could be worse 🙏🏽
8 👀
How did it get so low that’s crazy low ?
8??
I have no idea, I have been feeling crappy for a while headaches, joint pain , back pain and hair shedding and they never knew what was the cause so they finally checked my vitamin D levels and told me I was 8 🤦🏻♀️ I thought “ I better not catch covid” here we are 2 weeks later, my first positive covid 😓
@@valgal24 do you hibernate in summer or what? 😋
In Feb 2022 home tested positive for covid.; was hospitalized a few hours due to dehydration after being ill about 7 days. After doing all their tests, doctor told me, my lungs were good and all my organs fine. I had been taking 10K D3 100 mcg K2 (with mag and bile salts included ) for 3 years; first year took 2 daily.
In 2012 doctors told me my alveoli were collapsing; they didn't know why. After taking 20K daily for about 2 weeks I didn't need inhalers following a winter virus I had. This has changed my life; working part time as caregiver and part time as cashier in retail. I'm 73 this Nov 2023. I give away bottles of this D3K2 blend to friends and family. Thank you Dr Seheult. I also share your videos.
I live in the Andes of Ecuador at 9000 ft..not much sun..I am taking 10 000 I.U. a day ..definitely making a difference in my wellbeing!!!
Not much sun in the Andes of Ecuador? 'Wouldn't that be , like, the STRONGEST SUNSHINE IN THE WORLD? (literally)
@@mattfinleylive When the sun is out..yes..very strong UV ..unfortunately its not out very often..kind of like living in the Pacific NW
I have been learning about vitamin d due to Covid but then I discovered the role that it plays in immunity and the possible linkage to other diseases. I have had psoriasis for 30 plus years. Psoriasis is sometimes treated with UV therapy which in my opinion points to a role for vitamin d in it’s pathology. I began to suspect that I have some issue with vitamin d metabolism. I first suspected a problem with my vitamin d receptor called vitamin d resistance. I have so far been unable to verify it with measurements because I have encountered resistance within the health profession to even measuring vitamin d levels. I also suspect that vitamin d may have a role in high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and even Alzheimer’s. I have been collecting studies that support this idea. It seems that it could be evolutionary in that in northern climates it may have been an advantage to store fat in the winter. I admit that I am not a doctor and have no expertise only google. At any rate, supplementation with vitamin d seemed to improve my psoriasis.
hey, I have psoriasis too. how much do u take?
@@WisdomThroughGod As I am not a doctor, I started this after watching a video by a chiropractor where the theory was that there is a broken feedback loop in that vitamin d is supposed to act as a negative signal to the immune system. I may have inherited, or acquired, a problem with vitamin d metabolism called vitamin d resistance. I have yet to prove or disprove this. The chiropractor recommended 45,000 i.u.s of vitamin d as well as TUDCA 1500 mg. also Cod liver Oil. I started using TUDCA and only 1000 i.u.s of vitamin d ( I was too nervous to go higher without measurement ). After one bottle of TUDCA, my skin stopped flaking. This was before I could even see a dermatologist. I had psoriasis covering a large part of my body and I shed skin everywhere. After I started using cremes, the red scales are gone but cremes never worked before. I did eventually go to 20,000 i.u.s but that was before measurement. When I finally got a blood test I had 104,000 vitamin d3 and normal parathyroid so I cut back on vitamin d to 5000 - 10,000. The biggest mistake I made was starting before measuring vitamin d levels.
@@jonnelson9760 ok thank you.
Very interesting - I would provide the link but I’m not sure if that is allowed here . There is a study I just reviewed that took place in Brazil where they had given participants with Psoriasis 35,000 IU of Vitamin D per day for 6 months- ( restricted calcium intake ) and they had to drink 2.5 L of water daily - the improvement was remarkable . Thick plaque psoriasis disappeared in some of these pictures I saw. If I’m allowed I’ll post the link .
I know that this is an old comment & video, but I just had to say wow. I live in a very rural, low population area, and when I first moved here in around 2012 and saw the local doc (who's now in his mid-70s), one of the first tests he ran was a for vitamin D, and he's run one every year since. I now take 5,000 IU vitamin D every day from October through March, and every other day April through September. My levels went from 41 to around 60 to 65. He's very big on nutrition, as well. I feel lucky to have found such a good doc here in such an isolated place.
Listening to an infomercial while working one Sunday, overnight, and this man is saying he was advocating people take Vit. D in the late fall, thru the winter and I think it Boston College told him to chill or resign. I did the homework and found the body, in the summer produces about 10,000 IU in 20 minutes of sun exposure. So if naturally, you’re producing 10,000 IU, how could taking 5,000 be bad for you?
I've been taking 10.000 IU per day for several years now and my levels in winter are 60ng/ml, which is just fine and not that exaggerated high. Haven't had Covid, yet.
Same, even in the summer with plenty sun I still take 10,000 and I feel more than winning
@@lukasalam3320 well, I live next to a lake and in summer I swim a lot on sunny days and don't take it on these. Or less, maybe around 2.000IE - just to hold the level ;)
Low vitamin D means lack of sunlight... Lack of sunlight means indoor activity... Indoor activity means high virus transmission and more severe cases of covid
All I know is me and my family take around 5k D3 per day and no one has been sick for years. My mother did catch c19 at 66 and recovered within 48 hours with almost no symptoms (slight fatigue and loss of taste) and she previously had pneumonia twice when she was younger. D3 is probably one, if not the most important vitamin we should all supplement with unless with are living outdoors lifestyle.
How much sun per day would be recommended and is d3 oil fof skin absorption better than pills
It’s worth researching but I believe it’s pretty hard for our skin to absorb the sufficient amount of vit-d because we generally cover up our bodies with clothes etc. Hence why some drop the amount of supplementation but don’t completely stop during the warmer seasons. Please do research that though.
@@travismckinnon2494 the sun will always be better than pills. i heard it say that 30 mins a day in bright sunlight is all you need.
@@im_so_bored3896 thats about 10,000 ius. Clear day, no clouds. Summet time. Peak rays.
@@DarkLinkAD oh cool didn't know that. i'll make sure to get my summer sun this summer
Just priceless goodness. Guys I have been studying The Plague as an amateur and this is a top level content. If I may: Rather than get your Vit D from a supplement: go for natural. So take Cod liver oil, (yucky but shuddup and do it). Also Natural sunlight. If too far north then do your best to strip off at noon and expose as much of your skin as is descent.
I use a mix of A, K2 mk7, D3 : 600ug, 90mcg and 4000iu. Works great for me. I do a blood test every 6 months and a follow with a Dr in functional medecine.
Vit A interferes with K2MK7 may need to review how much of each. Vit E enhances K2MK7. Add magnesium.
@@carlsapartments8931 This is a mix designed by a very serious European nutraceutical company. I prefer to take a mix as I don't want to take each of them separately (too many pills and more expensive). I also take vitamin E (4 tocopherols mix in the morning and 4 tocotrienols mix in the evening). Magnesium is part of my daily routine for 15 years (I take Magnesium N-acetyl-taurinate, called ATA-MG).
What are testing for? How effective are all these on your health?
K2 and D3 are more effective taken on separate times of the day instead of in a single dose, Vitamin A is in a lot of foods anyway, so not needed when eating properly.
Sounds to me that if they mandate anything, it should be blood vitamin D levels of 50 ng/dl or greater!
And how many billions big pharma will lose from 10s or 100s of different ailments people get prescribed for
I had a great doctor who told me to take 10,000iu daily because I was deficient in 2019, by 2020 I was at normal levels and she told me to keep taking it, so I still do and last tested 1 point higher than in 2020 after 2 years taking it. So now I’m ranging between 45-50 ng/dl.
So this 4,000iu recommendation is based on very little science.
I had Corona, on low D, numbers were 4. Also have Hashimotos. Im a 38 F. 155 pounds 5'3. It was less than a cold but lost smell for sometime. Glad I had a cpap in case I was a bad case. Just started supplementing last week with k2/vitamin D3 to try and reverse thyroid antibodies. Ill report back.
Thanks for the info. Looking forward to update. I have Hashimoto's as well.
Nice
updates?
@@im_so_bored3896 He is gone, god bless his soul.
Rest in peace
Well I can tell u from my experience of taking vitamin D, my levels wouldn’t go up until I started taking 10,000 iu’s daily. I have been battling auto immune disease for 40 years. Had been diagnosed with Graves’ disease IN 2005 and MS in 2013. I got Covid and was fine. My levels need to be at around 90 for me personally. That is what works for my immune system.
I was going to say that in equarorial Africa many herding tribes naturally produce around 10,000 iu's a day.
3:14 "The inverse of exponential" is called "logarithmic".
Ha! When very smart people focus on one field. But hey, that is what makes them great at what they do.
Maybe he knew that. Perhaps He just wanted to highlighted the contrast with exponential growth without dropping jargon.
Beside the logarithmic point, I am interested in why that is the case. Since Vitamin D is fat soluble, your body can't just flush excess D3 out in urin. So if I take 20k IU instead of 1k IU. Is the body going into overdrive mode and using as much Vitamin D as possible?
In my head it should go the other way around when you have a deficit, when only 1k IU comes in your body should use most of it fast but when 20k IU comes your body should only use part of it directly and the rest should elevate your D3 level.
Would be thankful if someone could enlighten me a bit more.
@@Utoko I'm not sure the answer. But on this topic I found a freshly great source of information from Tim Spector in the UK. There is a great video where he discuss Vitamin D and COVID too, I think with John Campbell.
@@exhibitD79 Thanks will check it out
Ive just looked up how plants utilize soil nutrients and I now understand how the same is applied to human cells more or less. Been low on D my whole life. I find it strange how I enjoy the smell of garden soil. I looked up soil nutrients and boron and all the good stuff for our bodies is in it.
I am taking 45 mcg vitamin K2 (MK7)and Vitamin D3 at 2,000 plus Calcium carbonate at 1,800 mg.
It alleviated my pain issues, I am suffering from Leontiasis before, you can't believe the pain I had to go through.
MK4?
@@robertwilliams5618 Yes Sir.
Vitamin K2 makes your bones absorb Calcium.
I have a hyperparathyroid because of Dialysis complications, it made my bones leach out Calcium and ultimately pain all over but I solved it by controlling Phosphorus via phosphate binders, Calcium D3 and the key factor which is K2.
@@gtablurt5791 yeah I have taken both mk7 and MK4 before didn't really know this much difference so I stopped taking them but it seems a lot of people recommend him K7 as opposed to the Japanese studied MK4
@@robertwilliams5618 Sorry mk7 worked for me.
@@gtablurt5791 didn't you just say you're on Mk4?
I remember when Rhonda Patrick went on Joe Rogan's podcast. This woman knows her stuff.
I have chronic pain from nerv damage. V d 3 has helped cut the pain and depression. Also take a good multiple pluc. V c and o.ega threes. Really helps.
76yo chubby guy who takes 6,000iu and has D level of 63 at the end of winter. D for life.
Straight to the point. Thank you! We hate disclaimers & non topic rambling. Yayyy
Actually, you can count an additional 10ng for each 1.000iu, up until 5.000iu for the average person.
So 2.000iu -> 10 + 2x10 = 30ng/ml
And 5.000iu -> 10 + 5x10 = 60ng/ml
Then you could roughly say an additional 5ng for each 1.000iu up until 10.000iu, leading to 85ng/ml on average at 10.000.
That's the rule of thumb.
Thanks. Do you have a reference for this information?
@@branlob you are on a low fat diet or you have a thyroid problem or you are extremely obese then
One has to wonder why the experts and media are not on this great success story!
I just turned 66 and obese taking 8000 units D3 a day for past 6 months. Labs show 39 ng/ ml. No sickness of cold or flu this year. Trying to hit 50 ng/ml on my next lab.
@@concerned_2023 going to 12,000 units should be no problem plus lose 50 pounds to get to 178 lbs. My ideal military weight
Use vitamin k2 with vitamin d as well
Add a Boron supplement to your daily regime 10-12mg and your vitD absorption will increase plus your bones, teeth and testosterone will thank you.
@@ballyhoo321 what’s a boron supplement?
There are a couple of new studies done by universities in Canada and Greece which came out a few days ago showing that Vitamin D does not help to prevent or reduce the severity of COVID-19. I will stick by my intuition from what I know about Vitamin D and continue taking it despite what the research shows.
YTsupporter1 Apparently only the jib jab will work.....😕
well...you need vit d for other stuff than Covid anyway lol. But as much as I know being age and being over weight have more to do with the severity of covid than anything.
I think there are a lot of other studies that suggest otherwise.
@@jonathanhadley2555 /s?
there are studies that show vit D works well
9500 IU of D3 with 240mcg of K2 (MK-7) long term. Expecting life extending results.
Siim Land had a recent video on Vitamin D3. He suggests it is more efficient to vary the dosage, to watch your vit A to protect against toxicity and always take it with plenty vit K2 and magnesium.
What does vitamin A have to do with D toxicity I can't find any correlations on Google.
As you age your ability to absorb D decreases I am 76 , I take 10 k combo pill that has K2 and magnesium and my latest test level of D was 120. So I can probably reduce intake to 5 k or simply go every other day at 10 k. I do find it so fascinating that at my age of course I remember doctors from my youth who seem to understand D importance along with treating insulin resistance with a low carb diet and many other non pharma approaches because such drugs simply did not exist nor did all these so called required studies but simply ancient observation over time informing physicians as to what is a natural remedy. I just smile at all of today’s astonishing revelations in a
Generation of doctors about basic ways to keep people healthy. We aged ones are way ahead of you all if we had “ old “ doctors years ago before Big Pharma perverted in many ways the practice of sick care.
I think poverty and sometimes diseases, along with lack of education contribute.
Take 8,000 daily if you vacation somewhere with good sun. If not, 10,000 IU daily. This is according to the study "The Big Vitamin D Mistake."
I'm a pretty big man at 275 pounds. I've been taking 5000 IU's of D3 + K2 for over a year now. I get virtually no sunshine as I work overnights. My vitamin D serum level just came back at 33. I will be doubling my dose.
10k warmer months, 20k-40k winter, depending how I feel. Think I read 30-60 minutes sun is about 15k so if farmers and roofers and lawn people can survive 20k should be piece of cake but take some k2 for calcium absorption
I got sick twice when I was vitamin D deficient in 2019 and I started supplementing in Feb 2020 and thank God I never got Sick during the pandemic. I haven't gotten sick in over two years. I used 5000 iu of vitamin D along with k2, omega 3 and magnesium. Also, I started getting sunlight almost every day in the "summer" afternoon. After six months, BOOM I went from 20-25ng/ml to 90ng/ml. Now I take 5000iu every other day. I'm not sure what my level is now as I haven't tested in over a year. What exactly is the maintenance dose? Online it says 600-2000iu. Dr. Berg says 10,000 daily.
Which D test did you get done.. The 25-Hydroxy D or the VITAMIN D, 1,25 (OH)2
@@toneman8478 25 hydroxy
@@toneman8478 Dr Moran on here says 4000 IU per day
I’m sure it depends how much sun light you are getting and season as well.
1500 IU/day is generally a good maintenance dose
You should test your vitamin D level till you become sure it is between 30 & 50 ng/ml and is maintained at this range
SO important!
And it's pretty clear that they cannot say to supplement with 5k+/day, it's also clear that it's probably a good idea (though obviously ask your Dr. and get a blood test if you can).
Personally I was surprised to find that I was deficient when supplementing 5k IU/day!
For some people it can be difficult got the body to absorb. You could try olive oil based D3 which is said to have better absorption or take with a fatty meal.
@@bbearhug or mct oil
@@bbearhug what about Black Seed Oil?
What about olive leaf extract and K2 to regulate?
@@nokhchi1079 I do not know.
The UK health leaders advise that those over 60 should take 400 per day. One of them has just been given a knighthood. Is there any wonder that even with a free national health service the UK is one of the worst affected countries in the world.
Before being diagnosed with an autoimmune disease my level was 20 nmol/L After taking Vit D3 supplement of 5,000iu a day for a couple of years it went to 199 nmol/L. I have since cut it back to three days a week at 5,000 IU now I’m slowing down it’s at 160 nmol/L.
These numbers are terrible. Your liver is probably damaged.
@like bro I’m in remission and feeling very good. I haven’t had Covid and if I got it I think I would cope quite well. I might add before I was diagnosed with my immune disease my level for Vit D was 20 nmo/L which I was classed as deficient and I was extremely sick.
@@levondarratt787 what makes you say that? Remember it’s nmol/L.? I have Multiple Biochemical Analysis - Serum tests every six months and they are excellent. I’m 72 years old this year and feel great!
@like bro nmo/L of mg/L ? It all depends on what units you use if it’s the same as Australia (nmo/L) then I would try and increase it a bit.
@like bro how do you feel?
Optimal Level: many experts recommend a level between 50 to 100nmol/L
Others recommend a level between 75 to 125nmo/L
But some say higher. Especially with Covid around.
Your dose of vitamin d is dependent upon: 1: nationality, location on earth, age, and your specific need. The minimum recommended dose in Europe is 5000 iu. Testing should be the right way to dose. Start at 5000iu and 3 months later retest. For me it took 10,000 iu to maintain middle of the road dose. Vitamin d levels is so important that it is called the God molecule.
My wife was taking 10,000 IU a day and got a kidney stone, worst pain of her life. Had to have surgery to break it up. Doctor said definitely caused by the vitamin D, said not to take over 1000 IU a day. Not saying this would happen to everyone, just FYI.
Quick question. Was she taking it with K-2? Taken in higher doses, apparently you will get them without k-2.🤷🏻♀️
@@pjdurkin8582 absolutely was
@@pjdurkin8582 also, it’s more complicated than just taking K2 you have to take other vitamins and minerals with it, or, you could have some other problems like the gentleman mentioned about his wife having a kidney stone for starters.
I think we’re just supposed to get it from the sun mostly.
Besides, it’s a hormone ,not a vitamin.
During exposure to sunlight cholesterol is needed in our skin to absorb UV B radiation to convert to Vitamin D3. The body then depends on Magnesium to convert vitamin D into its active form within the body. Magnesium helps Vitamin D bind to its target proteins, as well as helping the liver and the kidneys to metabolize Vitamin D. Unfortunately 70% and more of the population is very deficient in Vitamin D due to “low cholesterol levels” in the body and skin, therefore sunlight will not help to manufacture vitamin D thru the skin no matter how much you are exposed. Also most of the population doesn’t supplement Vitamin D, or eat enough mushrooms, etc to achieve proper levels. Same is true with Magnesium. Most of the population doesn’t get enough Mg in the diet , nor supplementation unfortunately. No matter how much sun you expose yourself to, without 7-dehydrocholesterol in our skin UV B will not be absorbed to covert to Vit D, and if then will not metabolize without proper levels of Magnesium in our body. We can supplement with D3 and D2 together but important to supplement with Mag also. I supp 500-700 mg of Magnessium, and about 4500 of Potassium per day, by way of diet or supplement. Thank you again for all your excellent reviews and interviews.
I hope vitamin D and all of the many other very cheap supplements and therapeutic drugs don't somehow skyrocket in price as this event unfolds. The reason this knowledge has been suppressed is that it horns in on the pharmaceutical racket's stranglehold on highly profitable novel medications. They want you sick and dependent on them, they do not want you healthy and wise.
I take 50,000 IU Vit D + K2-MK7 DAILY and eat a Carnivore Diet....YAY for HEALTH and wellbeing!
Does not suggest an optimal daily dose in spite of title
I have been taking 1000ius per day for 7 months for long-term immune protection. Hair has started to grow on my bald area.
4000 is average for adult
I’m sticking to 1,000IU’s as well. Will not be taking an astronomically high dosage of Vitamin D3, no matter what these proponents say.
@@kismet2354 4000 iu is not high it is average for an adult with no issues.
@@tnt01 - I’m sticking to 1,000 IU’s all the same 😉
@@kismet2354 i am not asking you to change, just giving you facts. :)
Did I miss it? I didn’t hear them suggest an optimal supplementation amount..
I've been taking 5000iu of D3 with 125mcg K2 daily for years and my level consistently tests in the mid 50s. I'd like it to be up around 65-70, but my doc says 55 is optimal and advises against adding more. I have darker skin so I simply can't synthesize much vitamin D3 from the sun anyway. Fortunately, I've never had covid and I never experience anything worse than a very mild cold.
Vitamin D and citrus juices in the winter for vitamin C are definite immune boosters.
In quarantine for positive Covid test... symptoms have been only similar to mild allergies so far. Supplement 6000 IU Vitamin D3/day after low (24 ng/ml) diagnosis several years ago. My levels are in the mid 50's ng/ml when get tested. Just circumstantial, but maybe the Vitamin D helped. Also have a few other risk factors, so happy things have been mild so far.
Of course always possible it was a false positive and it's just allergy season starting... few more days of quarantine and see how it goes.
@BPJ Sorry, just seeing this. I did not develop any major symptoms.. Had slight sinus pressure that got a bit more for a couple days and that's it. No temperature, loss of taste/smell, etc. So, if I did have it, it was very minor.... wouldn't have thought anything of it besides the positive test.
do you still take the 6000 ius a day? just upped my dosage from 4 to 6000 recently and have the exact same levels as you had. do you also take k2? i'm not and heard i should.
I think we need far more vitamins and minerals in winter because our bodies lack it in this season...we definitely need vit D, zinc, magnesium, all of them infact!
An absorption question: for fat-soluble vitamins how much fat is needed/enough for the optimal absorption please?
It's so easy to supplement Vitamin D, that we all should take it. Of course. But I wonder whether these correlations have to do with the fact that people with higher vitamin D levels are generally healthier for other reasons, and therefore their risk of death (either from COVID or otherwise) is lower. In other words, a lot of these claims about vitamin D are correlative. I get that there are many of these, and when you put them together they start to tell a story, but some clear causal evidence would be helpful.
Why do you think people "with higher vitamin D levels are generally healthier for other reasons", exactly? With how widespread and commonplace vitamin D supplementation is that seems like quite a claim.
@@Pirosbor well, the assumption being that people who supplement vitamin D would likely engage in other practices that lead to better general health.
@@as17ns22 you can also question how many healthy people actually supplement to begin with. So yes, there are many assumptions/factors that make studies difficult. But I'd say if you take many of these studies, a pattern can emerge even with different variables
@@Cenot4ph Yep, that's true. My overall point was just that it's interesting to see a ton of correlative studies, but it would be helpful to see some causal ones so we can better understand the relationship between vitamin D, immunity, health, etc.
There’s has been a lot of peer reviewed studies that confirm the benefits of vitamin D. If you go to hospital with any viral problem the first thing they do is give you high levels of the processed Vit D apparently.
Was taking 7,500 IU a day (Live in New England). Just had blood work done and my levels where 80 ng/ml. My doctor told me that's WAY too high. And wants me to only be on 2,000 IU a day. Such confusing information.
Some doctors aren't updated about new researchs, the toxicity level is up to 240ng/ml, my blood test is about 120ng/ml for years and I haven't any signs of toxicity like hypercalcemia or something like that. You can keep it up, because only 15 minutes of a whole body sun exposure offers you about 10.000UI of Vit D if you're a white person, or 40 min for black people. So it's very safe to take between 10 and 20 thousands UI of Vitamin D per day. That's not a massive amount, it's fisiological.
@@RafaelSapka If I only take 5000IU of D3 per day, should I add K-2, or is it only if I take megadoses like 10k IU and up?
I took my D3 with walnuts and scrambled eggs with lots of olive oil, and a little zinc...all before any caffeine. I will take Mk7 (natto) in the afternoon and Magnesium at night. I'm trying to avoid Vitamin E and Fiber when I take the supp. I bought CHEAP eggs which have less vitamin E, and walnuts are HIGH in fat and relatively LOW in fiber. The E in olive oil isn't significant. (Fiber binds to the vitamins and prevents absorbtion, Vitamin E competes for the receptors) I am over 60 and not overweight. I took 10,000 iu yeserday and it boosted my mood all day in sun-free Northern Winter, Today I'm taking one 2000 iu gelcap and 5 drops from 100 iu per drop iquid D. I am careful to add the olive oil to the eggs after the heat is off to not form trans fat, and to add D drops when all cool. I wait an hour before any caffeine because it blocks receptors for D3. I hope you like my comment!
I take 5000 iu day. Hoping to take that up to 10,000
I was taking 20,000IU a day and now at 91ng/ml. I’m now taking 10,000IU a day.
@Davit M That would be too much per day. Per week would be fine but I would check VitD levels again to see if you're at optimum levels.
That graph of vitamin d level against mortality rate is just correlational though right? We don't know if it's vitamin d causing lower mortality, or if people who have certain diseases which cause higher mortality are more likely to stay indoors (for instance because they are more tired) and so get less sunlight. Or is there other evidence which rules out this alternative explanation?
I take 15,000 per day and no problem of D3 and I take K2-MK7 and Natto and Nitric Oxide along with Krill Oil Omega 3 (3,000) units
I stop taking vitamin d for a few weeks thinking I would get enough sun during this crazy UK hot weather this year. I was super wrong... My bones were aching,slept forever, depression.. after 3 days of 3000 iu liquid version. I am just starting to feel normal/good.. I know it's a hormone I just didn't appreciate how much I needed it
What do u think about supplementing directly with calcifediol ....it absorbs better, but then i read that it is used for hypeparathyroidism, as it lowers thaf hormone.
Also, why didnt this vid mention vit K2 , which u should take with vit D, to be sure thecalcium goes to the right places,..bones and teeth?
Also want to share, that the body uses up magnesium to process vit D, so u need to supplement that. too .
I’m on 8000 iu d3 daily
With 120 mcg of vitamin k2
Might go up to 180 mcg of k2 but 120 mcg k2 is good enough
100 mcg K2MK7 with every 5000 IU D3
@@carlsapartments8931 ok thanks so what’s ur idea for 8000? I guess 180 mcg of k2
I have kidney failure and on dialysis. Ive been taking 2000 IU of Vitamin D daily for a few months now.
I found there to be a disconnect between the title of this clip and the content. Or maybe the answer to the titular question is just "No."
I am 59 yo and I eat 10.000 ng each day since ten years and I am perfectly healthy.
Can you consider the possibility of the human body shutting down your sun absorption of vitamin D as a result of such vast levels of tablet vitamin D intake?
Because food intake without sun absorption cannot do that. Cannot deliver you enough vitamin D.
That's why you have retained your ability to photosynthesis it.
If this happens, you will have to rely on the chemistry version while it is available.
I know Normally it does not happen due to tablet. remember you have to take 100mcg of k2 with every 10000iu of d3. If you are old your skin will slow down d3 production. Other things that will reduce d3 production is bad liver or kidneys or too much cortisol or too much sugar. I don’t think the skin will lose its ability. There are videos and evidence that show that d3 won’t be absorbed in skin at all or that well if you are too fat or have damages kidney or liver
I didn't hear them say the optimal dose. What was it?
For C19, it seems to be 55ng/ml (see graph from Kaufman around 00:17). Lowest chance of infection & good chance of avoiding ICU/death (far away from anything under 30ng/ml or hypercalcemic levels of 200+ng/ml).
Requirements for Vit D3 go up with age, obesity, diabetes, less sun exposure, heavy clothing etc. Always best to get your levels checked before you start supplementing or at least early on, follow-up test after 3-6 months.
Yeah, kind of misleading title since optimal dose depends on what your current levels are and what level you/Dr want to be at.
It wouldn't be right for them to give an optimal dose because there isn't one. Maybe the title is a little misleading. As others have stated, get blood work done and go from there. There are also hyper responders and low responders to supplementation, varying dosage protocols greatly
With 'my' experience it's been 10,000 IUs.
4000 iu per day of d3 is fine unless your overweight then you need more. Getting a blood test is the only way to be sure due to different metabolisms.
i was found in the suboptimal range with 23.6 and i was afraid of overdoing it so in the beginning i was doing only 800 IUs per day, now i've upped that to 6000 IU's and found that if you get side effects from vit d pills oral sprays are a godsend! i should add a k2 to the list. but first i wanna get my levels tested at the lab to make sure before taking the k2.
Can someone tell me if vitamin K2M7 can cause arrhythmias? And tell me of any reviews and medical sources that document yes or no on contraindicated for people with arrhythmia? I’ve seen CZcams posts but not much or insufficient documentation.
Logarithmic is the 'reverse' of exponential. So, the rate that serum levels increase with supplementation is logarithmic which implies a tightly regulated conversion.
I find it frustrating that there never is a clear look at a sweet-spot, even when there are studies that suggest a sweet-spot. Mostly people say take a ton, and it won't be toxic. But that is not rational thinking. There likely is a sweet spot, and covid and toxicity are not the only issues. Most people don't have D blood tests, so a dose that works for most is really important, and again it is frustrating that we really don't have a good answer.
It varies due to skin colour, age, location in the world, your habits, and sun exposure. (And those are the obvious factors) . There's way too much variability. Even if there were one of these variables only, that variable in itself would be too much. That's why you have to take tests for accurate results.
Just take 10,000 IUs per day along with 320 mcg of K2 and plenty of magnesium.
1500 - 4000 IU should be safe : )
Vitamin D isn't toxic. Taking a ton IS rational thinking, because I understand the experts are lying about it so we remain sick.
Millions die from vitamin D deficiency, zero die from toxicity.
This fact means taking a ton is rational.
I was taking 2000 IU of D3 daily and measured at 49 ng/mL. I upped supplementation to 4000 IU, and plan to get tested again soon. I also get a lot of sun in the summer and don't have much pigment in my skin (Scottish background), so that helps my vitamin D levels.
If my physician looked anything like Dr. Patrick, I'd be going to the doctor daily.
I would have her do a very thorough checkup for sure.....I wouldn't mind her checking every part of my body just to be sure I have a clean bill of health
My BP would be through the roof if she took it!
@@goutfromfriedokra7099 One can never be too careful!
Read Jeff T Bowles book. You need to take, D3,K2,magnesium, zinc, potasium and Boron.
What time of day should we take and with or worhout food? Should it be cycled like 5 days on, 2 off?
These study tell us nothing about the optimal vitamin D level though, but rather that a lifestyle leading to high vitamin D levels (spending plenty of time outside) is protective against severe COIVD infections. Otherwise wouldn't control trials find a positive effect of vitamin D supplementation beyond 30 ng/dl?
Whoa! You can’t show real science such as this on YT.
Yes..the best place or way to get proper Vitamin Do..is the desert areas..like where I live..in the Kalahari area of the Northern Cape, South Africa. No virus survives our heat! We get our VitD straight from our mother nature.
it is true.. during the winter we actualy need to ingest more vitimins tham in the summer...
also, try and keep your jacket OFF .. to get more sun and become COLD adapted to become FAT adapted and use fat as energy... disease cant survive off of ketosis as well but the body loves it.
embrace the cold!and take DEEP breaths! its healthy for the body!
I have been taking 2000 u / day , level was 48, I increased it to 40000 u/day
4000 surely? or 40K for a temp period?
Not really.. It depends on where you live in the world, you're skin colour and how often you spend outdoors.
I have been taking 20,000iu per day, 10,000 during the day and 10,000 plus intense Philippine sun. Pros: my bones for some reason got bigger and stronger coz i also lift weights. Also my sleep is incredible. I can sleep for 9 hour straight with blasting ac without the need to pee or any disturbance. The best part! Cons: it’s expensive and I get jittery sometimes is that normal? Also am I taking a dangerous amount? Thanks Doc!
but the main question is, should we supplement daily? what is the decay of vit D? I've read somewhere that it remains high in the blood for days, which suggest once a week should be enough.
Personally I'm taking 4000 a week.
Yes daily. Check out the dark horse podcast on this issue
I'm taking 12k p/day, then 20k twice a week.. with K2-mk7, and Co factors from butter and egg yokes.
thanks, time to bump it up..........for me.