Bass VI Shootout - Squier Vintage Modified v Fender Pawn Shop Bass VI
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Just wait until those djent bands that tune to Drop F hear about this.
8 strings, baritone 6, is not new for "djent" either for jazz
***** A Remake of a Product which came out 1961 isn´t new conzept.... Really a wonder that the it isn´t?...
***** djazz ?
No right minded person would tune to drop F on a 6 string. Thats insane. Just get a 7 or an 8 and dont put your guitar through that Hell. You'd need a baritone and like .14 gauge strings to handle that, and even then you'd be adjusting your poor truss rod...poor poor truss rod. -shudder-. All those PROGRESSIVE METAL (Not fucking djent) bands use either 7s, 8s, or 9s when tuning that low.
Mike Scanlan yeah, prog bands are pretty much getting full use of the range(some of them) like tesseract or intervals
Bass VI defined The Cure album called "Disintegration" from 1989. One of the best albums ever.
Imagine if you hooked that thing up to a Guitar amp and a Bass amp simultaneously like Royal Blood. That'd be sick.
+J.J. Hernandez WOW!
what song at 5:46
Sweet child o mine - Guns' n' Roses
That's exactly what I do, the tones you can get are crazy.
Ooooh -kay so I'm no thte only one to think of that. glad we're all on teh same page.
I hear this and don't think metal. I think ambient space rock lol.
Reeeevvvvveeeeerrrrrrbbbbb
Bought this instrument a few weeks ago.
Absosulte love it. It sounds like a monster through a bass amp and you'll get sick harmonies with an octave pedal.
I rate 7/7
This should be paired with a Miku pedal.
YEEEESSSSSSSS
God yes
Just me
It'll sound like a Chibi Barry White
Did someone said yes already?
The Cure uses this a lot, the original one I think, they've been using it forever (well "they")
"Big bass tremolo chord you never hear"? I point you at Primus.
primus sucks :D :D :D
luitenant22
Damn right.
Travis Clark what's your top 3 favorite primus songs and albums? :)
my'n are: songs: 1: jerry was a racecar driver 2: john the fisherman 3: mrs. blainley
album: 1: pork soda 2: tales from the punchball 3: frizzle fry
luitenant22
albums, Pork Soda, Seas of Cheese and Frizzle Fry (no particular order)
Songs, Fisticuffs, My Name is Mud (first Primus song I learned on bass) and Lacquer head (no particular order).
Travis Clark nice, fisicuffs is amazing indeed. the whole brown album was amazing. still dont get why people dont like it that much together with antipop. each album has a different theme, thats what i like most about them
Robert Smith is very creative with this guitar. One of the best I've ever heard. He even overdubs song intros with 2 or 3 different tracks.
my band wants me to play bass, instead of guitar...fuck 'em I'll buy this
Kyyp3r that would actually be cool to have a lead bassist that can do some solos
Kyyp3r don't do it man, don be forrced to play an instrument you won't dedicate fully, as in you will be playing like a guitar player than a bass player and their roles are compleatly different. plus these kind of band member choises give bass players a bad name.
Don't buy this, tuning issues are horrible regardless if it sounded good in here or not remember chappers had to keep retuning the guitar? not only that but intonation is messed up no matter what you do to those bridge saddles or bridge saddles screws, this thing is out of whack, even the fender pawn shop it's shit
Kyyp3r now you don't even need a guitarist or bassist. because now you're both
There are some mods to address this. The Stay-Trem bridge is also an aftermarket replacement that may help.
I want to see rob scallon on one of these.
That was the first thing I've got on my mind too!
He would slay one of these things!
The bassist from Royal Blood (or any band with only a drummer and guitarist or bassist really) would be able to do some sick stuff with one of these...
Sawyer McElroy-Parvis Exactly what I was thinking!
Death From Above 1979
.100 on the bottom? 6 strings? Tremolo?!?! is the truss rod made out of iridium??
But really, for someone who loves both bass and guitar, this seems to be one instrument to rule them all. Rad
+Slick Sludge It doesn't to.. a thinner string on a high tuning can have more tension than a .100 at E ;) The Key word is tension :D
Aaron Scheer True, I didn't consider that. I just keep thinking about a 62 PBass at a local store, the flats on it feel like torsion cables @_@. But yeah, a variety of factors determine the overall tension.
+Slick Sludge yeah the scale, the thickness and the the tuning ;)
+Slick Sludge I think it's made out of Unobtainium
>.100
>thick
Ahahaha, pitiful fools! i play 110s in Eb on a full scale bass XD
John Lennon played the Bass VI on Helter Skelter
And while my guitar gently weeps, in fact there's a couple more songs on the White Album where it's used. Like happiness is a warm gun, glass onion, the overall heavier songs
And let it be, george also played it on hey jude.
Peter green from fleetwood mac played one on green manalishi
@@mcspankies1799 whats fleetwood mac
@@aphaiknaime5920 No Paul actually played while my guitar gently weeps on a Jazz Bass that fender sent him during the white album sessions.
Yep. I love my bass 6. I play it through a 1974 bassman 10, a silvertone 1474 and a 1974 Deluxe. Those chords delight me every time. What a great guitar.
Fun instrument! Just picked one up and it’s making me giggle! All the guitar chord shapes and voicings sound new and unique!
I've been a bass player for a long time now and I definitely think this is a great example of a bass for a guitar player, or maybe even a bass player that relies more heavily on a pick, or at least that's what it looks like!
I have one and it would be a big adjustment for finger bassists. The string gap and heavy gauge takes some getting used to. I play mostly bass and just got this so I could kinda play both on the same instrument.
I really want to hear someone play full power chords with distortion on this just to see how amazing it sounds haha
Fender Porn Shop Bass VI FTW.
+Mega MountainMan It comes with a wah built in.
Nick Kapp Is it a Bad Horsie?
I KNOW
Fender Porn Shop Bass 69’
*pawn shop*
woulda loved to see Cliff Burton shred one of these
Would be mind blowing🤘😎🤘 R.I.P Cliff
This model existed way before Cliff.
This is actually really cool. As a Bass player and Guitar player in a band.... who plays both, I can see the advantage to using this.
There's a nice clip of George Harrison playing a Fender VI, accompanying John Lennon on 'Oh My Love' in glorious CZcams land. As ever, George's playing takes the song to another level, without ever hogging the spotlight. What a player!
John played a Bass VI on Helter Skelter
Also, George is playing one in the video for Hey Jude, and John is playing one on Let It Be and Long and Winding Road.
I'm a bass player and I'm jealous of this.
Since this is pretty much a bass with an extended high range, wouldn't it make more sense to run it through a bass amp?
I spoke to a guy in a guitar shop about this. Apparently there's a pretty even mix of people who play it through guitar or bass amps. It depends how you play it really
+Fidgottio fender bassman
+James Taverna probably any 8/9-string guitars or guitar like these will probably sound better with SVT.
TheZooropaBaby anything sounds better with SVT.
Some people play regular bass thru guitar amps, especially paired with a bass amp to add "crunch."
Is it just me that finds the fender version incredibly underwhelming compared to the squier version!?
Look at the price as well.
Leonard Crainie It's like that with most squier vs. fender guitars, fenders generally are overpriced :( The only major difference between a squier and a fender is their pickups & electronics. Sometimes the kind of wood used for the body of guitar is different too, but that doesn't really matter to the sound.
It might be a bit of the amp bu i do agree
+panhead1219 you could always defret one. In fact, I'm tempted to buy a second one to defret it!
Rob has a special talent for making cheap guitars sound great. When they switch guitars, he can make the Fender sound great too. But you can tell when the distortion kicks in that the Fender is a bettter-quality guitar all-around.
@@LotzofJohan and cachet... Theoretically the Squier parts will need replacement sooner. My Squier P-bass I bought used in the eighties and works perfectly, never had to replace anything. It sounds exactly as good as a "real" Fender. The sound is identical.
Did anyone else notice Rob accidentally pull the toggle switch cap off at 18:10 haha
He just kind looked at it and said "oh well" then tossed it aside, lol
Just got my Squire Bass VI and am SUPER happy with it!!!
When he says "pawn shop" it sounds like "porn shop" haha.
And they say we speak English wrong...
yeah english sucks
such great playing much better than basically every other bass vi review out there. So many of them still can't really grasp how unique the instrument is
Would love to have one of those but I can't really think when I would use it other than following the phrase "dude check this crazy shit out"
That's what I thought until I tried one the other day. It blew my mind. You don't have to be a bass player, it's just fun to mess around on. You can get some really unique and interesting tones out of it. The most playable instrument I've ever played. I'm definitely buying one.
Linus Martin You're right! You have to try one to see what it's all about. I am buying for two reasons - The Beatles used this on a few songs and I have most of the guitars they have used, and secondly, I tried it at the local GC and it is fun for noodling around on. I will be using this for Helter Skelter, Let It Be and a few other Beatles songs it was used on.
But isn't that all you need? the squier is like 250? cheap as fuck for an instrument that's that much fun
Shaun Luxon brought to practice instead of my Normal Bass once and nobody could stop asking me about it. Singer asked if i wanted him to get me a more “normal looking bass”
Shaun Luxon that’s the reason!
I know I’m 7 years late!! If anyone gets the current squire cv bass vi I would recommend making a few mods. 1. Kluson vintage tuners keep mine in tune way better than the stock tuners. 2. The staytrem wide bridge makes intonation so much easier. 3. I would get some beefier strings as the stock ones on the squire aren’t thick enough imo and you lose some low end on the low E and A (newtone strings in Derbyshire do a great .024-.100 set which imo is better than the labella set)
The fender ones work fine mines lasted years
As its not a bass nor a guitar it's a hybrid
this is what djent band needs, not 7-8 or 9 string guitars!
Sorry, I actually like my high e string.
WazZix yeah the whole point of extended range is, well, the extended range that you can play
Liam Gideon Exactly. But I think rhythmic guitarists can just use baritone guitars tuned in E standard, no ?
whats the point of a baritone if its tuned to standard E? (except for longer scale length) baritones are usually tuned between a standard guitar and bass like A, B or C standard.
I think they need tallent first.
This djents hard
Bought the Squier model today. Highly recommended!
I'm telling you guys... make a Chapman version of this, available in lefty, and I will buy it right now... what? I can't hear you over the sound of my money flying into your hard... just shut up and take my money!!!
***** I was going to correct it, but decided... what the hell? Could be added incentive...
Hmm. I should start a guitar company O.o
Man, I wasn't able to locate a pawn shop version so I had to make due with the squier. I'll say it's an awesome instrument. Here's how I use it; I play in an Americana band, and I find it pretty useful for playing bass lines and doing baritone-like solos to contrast our lead guitarist. It does the job amazingly. I did string with the La Bella stainless strings, that are abit beefy.
Omg... I don't even play bass but I need to buy that shit
I can't even play guitar (But I play bass) and I, too, need to buy that shit, haha!
ACoolStupidDog i play bass and not guitar and i too need to buy that shit
i play both and i need this xD
I play both and OWN THIS. You DO need this.
As a sludgy experimental metal guy, I need this shit so bad.
The Captain and Chapman discovering Loathe
This is the kind of Guitar I could see Abraham Laboriel being comfortable playing. :)
You just sold me again Mr Chapper....I have been researching but typical bass players do not give the dimension this Guitar box has - thank you Chapper and the Captain!
I'm thinkin' this needs an Ampeg tube head, 8 X 10 cabinet, and a fuzz pedal.
an svt!
Just imagine that thing through a Matamp. Serious doom metal tone!!!
What I went on to learn;
I bought the squier ,
when you get yours google
instructables Fender Squier Bass VI Fixing tone.
That guy was spot on on everything except changing the strings which really is about whether you want it to be more like a bass , or more like a guitar. the strings are specifically chose to straddle the area. The rest of that instructable is pure gold.
If you do want to use it for extreme metal , I have bought and installed the Warman Twin Loco Hot Rail Humbucking pickup for the bridge which has pretty much doubled the output power and drives a distortion nicely without having to carve out a hole for a full size humbucker, or make the expensive leap to actives, it's just a nice straight swap. and at just £18 you can't go wrong!
man you know its a wicked instrument when two grown men can't stop smiling ;)
Some flatwounds on that beast, and... hmmm... OMG WANT.
Those Pinch harmonics around 9:20 made me laugh really hard
The best demo ever to show the difference in quality between Squier and Fender!!...now you know!!...
this is the only video of a bass vi where the demonstrator slaps the instrument and does a ton of other things to showcase what you can do with the instrument. thank you so so so so so so so much you lovely men you
Man... I played a Fender VI in 1965... Beach Boys - Good Vibration !!!
Thanks for the review!
Rob playing slap WHOA!
I play guitar but was in Denmark St bass shop (inspired by Fieldy) and found this 'bass' which I could jam on instantly. I played the fender it was lots of fun and will almost certainly buy the squire when second hand ones start popping up. They warrant all the enthusiasm IMO
I got this bass a year ago and it's my number one in my band
I recently got the Squier Vintage Modified version and aside from challenges gettting the thing set up correctly, the thing really kicks butt! Gigged with it this last Friday playing in a blues/heavy rock power trio and was coming up with all sorts of cool psychedelic tonage especially when adding just a bit of overdrive! Not much more than $400 out the door (Including taxes, gig bag, and new strap and a couple other small items) here in the U.S. There is no excuse NOT to get one of these!
Should have played some spaghetti western tunes!
.....NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duane Eddy, Surf/Spy Music Galore!!!! would work for much of Chris Isaak's music, too!
I like spaghetti...
Totally inappropriate to play fret widdle distortion with one of these
I didn't know this existed.....but I want it....now.
You bass players have all the fun!
The bassist part of me is horrified, yet at the same time very interested in maybe getting one of these for myself.
The concept reminds me of how some bassists use ultra-thin strings on four string bass models in order to make piccolo basses.
I'd tune these up to something like Drop B (compared to normal guitar tuning) and play slow sludgy doom metal on them. Think I might also rip out the daft Jazzmaster trem and drop a Floyd Rose in it...
Richard Harrold I'm curious how you'd reshape the body to fit a Floyd rose?
dudefolife210
Rout it out? That or a Strat trem.
*****
These are really too short scale to be tuned to bass-E - you need a 34" scale to make that work. They're more like long-scale baritones. Bring them up to G or A or something like that, they'd make more sense. The trem seems pretty clunky - if there was either a hardtail version or a Strat/Floyd/Wilkinson trem option, that might make more sense.
Richard Harrold you can always use a capo
Will York Music
Isn't that effectively reducing the scale length?
I brought one of the cheap one, still grinning , bloody marvelous is all I can say!
I Picked up the Squire VI ...and have to say it is the Guitar I play the most these days!!.....I did change out the bridge...I put a Staytrem bridge in and the Tuning on the low e string is A LOT more stable.....but geeze as far as Bang for the Buck goes....You can not beat this.....I play it more as a Guitar...But I have done some bass lines on it ...I Love this Guitar!!!! Great Video Guys!!!.
9:30 my wallet just became $450 lighter
Finally a Demo for the Bass VI by people who can play and can get good tone!
Just got a Bass VI and love it
you guy's have a great job getting up every morning to go play guitars all day .beats an office job lol
Chapman guitars should make a version of this.
First of all, wouldn't it make much more sense to run this out of a bass amp, considering it is a bass. And second, how would this put bass players out of the job? If anything this would be putting guitar players out of the job XD
Because it is still technically a 6 string guitar, the pickups dont push the same way bass pickups do and you can actually ruin the amp that way
@@samdunkksu2b129 its awesome with a bass amp with cranked up bass to 11
@@samdunkksu2b129 No?? it's still very much a 6 string bass
You can run it through both bass and guitar amp, it works wonderfully on both.
Yeah, the tone will be different but you can run it through either. Or you can pick an amp like a Fender Bassman that is favored by both guitarists and bassist. I’d maybe worry about a guitar amp at high volume, but I think these pickups are more guitar style.
this would feel right at home in Like Clockwork!
man, I started on bass, after a year and a half, sold the bass, baught a guitar, and when crazy on the instrument, this 6 string Bass/Guitar/Guitar tuned bass is the thing for me.
Why do fender occasionally re issue this instrument for all of 5 minutes then stop production - it's an awesome instrument !
"Look out bass players", actually from the looks of it, or perhaps these guys just didn't, the Bass VI isn't actually made to be played like a bass. I think our jobs are pretty safe seeing as it'd be pretty damned hard to play a guitar riff and bassline simultaneously on one of these.
I'll have to get one of the squier ones. looks awesome with the binding and inlays and my squier classic vibe 60's strat (the sunburst one with 3 single coils) is, simply put, the best playable guitar I have ever laid hands on.
Squiers really are great instruments!
I usually skip through these from guitar to guitar but these are so friggin awesome that I actually watched it all. I will be getting one very soon.
Sounds like Lemmy with disortion.
If lemmy was a guitar player
+Josh Webber Lemmy WAS a guitar player before he was a bass player.
+TheCryptCrusader really he went the exact opposite of a lot of people. Usually players start with bass because they think it's easy and then say fuck it and play guitar. Anyway he was an amazing bass player
Stephen Shepherd us fans of Southern Rock hate Freebird so I don't blame you. Don't let me catch you talking bad about the Allman Brothers though...
@@coltallic3114 Lemmy Kilmister died recently. He was known for a distorted Bass sound.
Oh no not the shredding. Makes me not want one.
i gave you my like! i feel that a proper "thank you" would be gifting me the pawn shop:)
Just got the Fender version. I'm putting the La Bella VI Flat strings on...with a .115 for a low B, and I'm tuning it BEADGC, to use as 6 string Bass finger style. Something different for sure!
Imagine it with a Floyd Rose xD
Get some Dimebag Bass harmonics XD.
If i'm not mistaken, Joe Perry of Aerosmith uses a custom Bass VI with humbuckers and a Floyd Rose. THAT thing looks freaking cool.
thewonderfulMRnoob Just what I was thinking. I'd love to play Cemetary Gates on this...
this guitar just broke my basic understanding of a guitar and bass guitar.... can someone help me ?!?!?!?!?!
think of a man and a woman, now in your perspective if you are a man think of a pretty woman................ with a penis, hope that helped
i almost understand
in other words: BEST OF BOTH WORLDS lol
KOOLBOYSC1 Its just a guitar an octave lower.
Mike Scanlan Yes
That distorted tone reminds me a lot of Joey De Maio's tone, especially on the battle hymns album
the fender amp really makes it sound so much better
When you have two guitarists and two basses
Nice! Lots of classic music was recorded using the original VI. For example, Joe Perry used one on Rocks, George Harrison and John Lennon used one whenever Paul Mac was playing 6 string in the studio.
Just bought the Squier version. Great guitar once you put on some flat wound La Belle strings. As a tradition Bass player, this is MAD fun! And the rest of my band mates just went "WTF".
Not widely known but since the great man died yesterday, worth a mention that the simple but iconic sounding lead guitar break on Wichitaw Linesman was played by Glen Campbell on a Fiesta Red Fender IV .
I am no Mozart but at minute 9 after 2 minutes of distorted e string I wanted to fill my ears with cement and die
Bass Bear Exactly my thoughts
I have to remember this comment lmao
Holy shit you weren't joking
Loved that part
I agree. Not it’s finest hour
I've tried both in a shop and for me the Squier wins!
And if you think that it also costs 1/2 the other, its win is a triumph!! ;)
Rob and Captain thank you for getting me addicted to this instrument and video
hahaha "porn shop"
Jose R. Morales 69 likes Brother!
Am i the only one that feels like if its not plugged into a bass amp it kinda sucks, which its not in this video
'Nutshell' sounds great on one of these. NEED NEED NEED
Just bought myself the pawnshop in red, I play bass in a 3 piece band but I have been playing guitar for years so I'm looking forward to incorporating this beauty into the music.
George Harrison used one
HistoryFanatic03. The Beatles got one by Fender, which George and John used when Paul played piano
But does it djent
no
this djents
gotta get some better pickups
Let's hope not
its a fantastic game eh? =P
It's my main instrument. Your question is as useful as if you asked why a lad has 5 Stratocaster (which doesn't seem to shock anyone). He would tell you as I will that all mine sound really differently, and sometimes you just don't want to bring a vintage $10 to 20k+ "guitar" on stage and have its reissue instead. Given the value of some Bass VI (vintage pre-CBS custom colours ones), it's just a question of cautiousness. This Squier is just the best idea FMIC have had in the past 10 years...
19:47 "It's only love; that's all." LAUGHING MY ASS OFF!
And, I totally dig the Alanah Myles riffing at the start.
If I were still in the market for a bass, I would probably choose one of these.
March 2016 update: I've played the Squier Bass VI, and I'm seriously considering it, especially having heard Mr. Rob doing his slap stuff which I too have tried to do.
Alice in chains going on before 5 minutes
Is that what it was? I was thinking Pearl Jam.
Pearl Jam - Alive
Saying that this will run bass players out of a job is like saying a piccolo bass will run guitarists out of a job. Apples and oranges people.
The difference is people arent looking for a way to get red of guitarist
In my band I play the hairy Benton version of this. I use allot of chords and it allows me to sing and play at the same time as I can't play the bass and sing at the same time.
I never screwed up a single speaker using a Bass VI, and I play them on various guitar amps (ok, huge and powerful ones : vintage Peaveys 212, 410 cab or 610 cab, Roland JC-120). A good speaker won't be blown up by a Bass VI, a bad one might be. But I never heard any story of broken speaker using this instrument. After all, if you fear so, engage the strangle switch and you're safe (I never use it).
Bassists losing the job? How about guitarists losing their job to bassists
It really is though...
+anson bryant Until you want a squealing solo