This was very informative thank you. I'm taking delivery of my MG5 in the next few weeks and one thing I have been confused about is the multitude of different cards, Apps etc. that are needed to actually use these chargers. I don't suppose you would consider a similar video that discusses what is actually needed?
I have an idea that perhaps charging the last 5-10% should be done immediately prior to setting off (in order to get the battery up to a reasonable temperature and get relatively good efficiency from the off) rather than purely the ‘cheap’ hours.
Great video for newer or less experienced EV owners. The only comment I have is that I personally try not to use Geniepoint due to its terrible app and connection charges. I preferentially set BP Pulse/Polar first for cost (Polar Member), Engie in Yorkshire as free, Instavolt and Osprey as reliable backups, and only use EH if there is no other option due to reliability issues.
Zapmap's route planning it pretty archaic to use, as far as I know it doesn't take into account weather or topography. I find ABRP far better, more accurate and easier to use, definitely have a look at it. I also think they're beta testing Apple CarPlay with Android Auto integration coming soon.
the thing comes with out of service charger is that they may not be and may never been it is a shame you cant pick chargers on price and miss out ones you cant use as for staff only. and yes you are coming to newcastle the morrison on charges 50p connect then 30p go up the road to northumberlandia and its free with a good site to walk. i would have pick 3 location and start with the 1st one you come to back tracking is not any way a good idea
Took a first look with ABRP this evening and don't like it. The information about each charger doesn't appear to be as easy to see, but I do like the display of the time spend charging, so I need to spend more time with it.
@@StuartDWright yes, the reliability is the elephant for non-Teslas. Out here EV drivers are ‘on-your-own’ as far as the federal government is concerned..... they even struggled amongst themselves over CO2’s impact. It’s a national embarrassment.
@@davidpearn5925 in the uk the government have just renewed the contract for ecotricity to supply the motorway network charging infrastructure. Now that is an embarrassment.
I have tried using zapmap route planner on my mbl. Not good.. i could find the stops ok but not how to start it after putting the stops in. Possibly me being thick.. but software has to accommodate stupid users for it to be usable. Not everyone is a computer programmer.
It's not a sat nav. Zap Map finds the chargers for you and shows you their status. You have to put your chosen charging locations into your sat nav. I say this at the end.
Not only pubs, the rapid chargers in the lakes for instance at the Rheged centre are behind gates and only open when they are. Nearly always closed at tge moment with covid restrictions, hopeless, you have to go into town instead at the instavolt.
Electric cars, I’m sure we will all agree are great. A long journey? Well it shouldn’t be this difficult.The charging infrastructure is quite pathetic, unreliable and unfit for purpose. Scott’s journey to the South Pole took less planning. Great video though, well helpful.
Wetherby Service Statiom???????????????? I bet you won't near any one of the charging points,,, It's always heaving, it's where the M1 merges into the A1.. BE WARNED
MG predicted range 200miles, range in a reality 100miles. Every 1h30m of driving on motorway needs to stop for 45min. charging. This car not good for long journey
I bought an electric car and in those 5 years the charging infrastructure has hardly got any better,in fact in many instances it has got worse. The outcome of this is that I never use my electric car on a long run now because it is much slower, not as direct and extremely stressful with range anxiety. I now get in my other car, a Mercedes E class diesel with a 600 mile range, even on a 210 mile journey I regularly do, it is at least a third faster in time. Electric cars are hopeless long range. The fact that electricity is cheaper is irrelevant, because you can buy 74,000 miles of petrol with the average £10'000 purchase price difference. Penny wise and pound foolish and all that hassle !
Let’s be accurate, the charging infrastructure is beyond hopeless it’s pathetic, but the cars themselves are generally great. I totally agree the outcome is that long journeys are fraught with worry. The level of planning required for a journey reminds me of a book I read about Scott’ s journey to the south pole.
Depends how often you drive so far that you have to charge along the way. If you do a long journey maybe every weekend, then you have 52 journeys when you need to spend 10 minutes planning where to stop. And the rest of the time you're saving 90% of your fuel costs.
great advice thank you
Thanks Stuart for sharing this info.
You are very welcome
Stuart really good practical advice, good luck with your channel.
Much appreciated
This was very informative thank you. I'm taking delivery of my MG5 in the next few weeks and one thing I have been confused about is the multitude of different cards, Apps etc. that are needed to actually use these chargers. I don't suppose you would consider a similar video that discusses what is actually needed?
I have an idea that perhaps charging the last 5-10% should be done immediately prior to setting off (in order to get the battery up to a reasonable temperature and get relatively good efficiency from the off) rather than purely the ‘cheap’ hours.
Great video for newer or less experienced EV owners.
The only comment I have is that I personally try not to use Geniepoint due to its terrible app and connection charges. I preferentially set BP Pulse/Polar first for cost (Polar Member), Engie in Yorkshire as free, Instavolt and Osprey as reliable backups, and only use EH if there is no other option due to reliability issues.
Zapmap's route planning it pretty archaic to use, as far as I know it doesn't take into account weather or topography. I find ABRP far better, more accurate and easier to use, definitely have a look at it. I also think they're beta testing Apple CarPlay with Android Auto integration coming soon.
the thing comes with out of service charger is that they may not be and may never been
it is a shame you cant pick chargers on price and miss out ones you cant use as for staff only.
and yes you are coming to newcastle the morrison on charges 50p connect then 30p go up the road to northumberlandia and its free with a good site to walk.
i would have pick 3 location and start with the 1st one you come to back tracking is not any way a good idea
Thanks Stuart, we are expecting our ZSEV, Vitara replacement, on Monday and now appreciate our Model 3 SR even more !
ZapMap better than ABRP ?
Took a first look with ABRP this evening and don't like it. The information about each charger doesn't appear to be as easy to see, but I do like the display of the time spend charging, so I need to spend more time with it.
@@StuartDWright yes, the reliability is the elephant for non-Teslas.
Out here EV drivers are ‘on-your-own’ as far as the federal government is concerned..... they even struggled amongst themselves over CO2’s impact. It’s a national embarrassment.
@@StuartDWright ABRP is a better planning tool, but ZapMap has better filters and chargepoint data. I use both at the same time...
@@davidpearn5925 in the uk the government have just renewed the contract for ecotricity to supply the motorway network charging infrastructure. Now that is an embarrassment.
@@doggylover1958 well, our mob is run by the Murdoch/mining interests and are spineless puppies.
They are as divided as the Torys are.
geniepoint are awful charges to try and figure out. and charge a connection fee of £1.50.
Absolute last choice for me!
I can’t watch anymore but it’s convinced me the charging infrastructure is still pants in the UK. If I can’t afford a Tesla, I’ll stick with ICE.
I have tried using zapmap route planner on my mbl. Not good.. i could find the stops ok but not how to start it after putting the stops in. Possibly me being thick.. but software has to accommodate stupid users for it to be usable. Not everyone is a computer programmer.
It's not a sat nav. Zap Map finds the chargers for you and shows you their status. You have to put your chosen charging locations into your sat nav. I say this at the end.
A lot of pub charges are closed as the pubs have blocked the carparks to stop travellers not thinking about us poor Ev drivers
Not only pubs, the rapid chargers in the lakes for instance at the Rheged centre are behind gates and only open when they are. Nearly always closed at tge moment with covid restrictions, hopeless, you have to go into town instead at the instavolt.
Electric cars, I’m sure we will all agree are great. A long journey? Well it shouldn’t be this difficult.The charging infrastructure is quite pathetic, unreliable and unfit for purpose. Scott’s journey to the South Pole took less planning. Great video though, well helpful.
Wetherby Service Statiom???????????????? I bet you won't near any one of the charging points,,, It's always heaving, it's where the M1 merges into the A1.. BE WARNED
MG predicted range 200miles, range in a reality 100miles. Every 1h30m of driving on motorway needs to stop for 45min. charging. This car not good for long journey
Blimey, how fast are you driving it? It's capable of way more than 100 miles.
@@StuartDWright 60-70mph on motorway
Plus fast chargers stop at 80 percent don't they? So your range is reduced well below the maximum when out on the road
I bought an electric car and in those 5 years the charging infrastructure has hardly got any better,in fact in many instances it has got worse. The outcome of this is that I never use my electric car on a long run now because it is much slower, not as direct and extremely stressful with range anxiety. I now get in my other car, a Mercedes E class diesel with a 600 mile range, even on a 210 mile journey I regularly do, it is at least a third faster in time. Electric cars are hopeless long range. The fact that electricity is cheaper is irrelevant, because you can buy 74,000 miles of petrol with the average £10'000 purchase price difference. Penny wise and pound foolish and all that hassle !
Let’s be accurate, the charging infrastructure is beyond hopeless it’s pathetic, but the cars themselves are generally great. I totally agree the outcome is that long journeys are fraught with worry. The level of planning required for a journey reminds me of a book I read about Scott’ s journey to the south pole.
Why do pubs all put their EV chargers right next to their smelly bins?
Doing all this faffing about puts me off getting an electric car
Depends how often you drive so far that you have to charge along the way. If you do a long journey maybe every weekend, then you have 52 journeys when you need to spend 10 minutes planning where to stop. And the rest of the time you're saving 90% of your fuel costs.
@Wooly Chewbakker plus the cap is going up 20% soon