Hank Parkers hot take on Forward Facing Sonar- Fishing Guide Reacts
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Reacting to the clip of Hank Parker giving his honest opinion on Foward Facing Sonar.
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Thanks Hank for bringing your perspective into the conversation on this hot topic.
Im with hank, it needs to be regulated
I tell my grandsons each time we go fishing, sometimes we catch them that’s why it’s called “ fishing” not catching. Does ffs change our sport to catching vs fishing?
Grandpa Jeff
FFS and live scope should not be allowed in the tournament trail.
Shouldn't be allowed in any tournament.
Yes it should
You arr probably one of the ones that can't read the water and seasons. Lol
Spoken like a true hole buzzard.
It shouldn't be allowed period. Recreational fisherman are frustrated as well. It's changing fishing and not in a good way. Fafo
I got on FFS in late 2019 and after using it for 4 years I can tell you that it is not fishing it is catching. Fortunately I am 70 years old and spent a lot of time fishing the old school way, which I find myself doing more and more each outing. For Guides like yourself you should be very concerned. With the mapping and FFS I can go to just about any lake and catch fish at will, why would I hire a guide. There is no mystery an more. Now when I watch the pros I say to myself what is the big deal. The commercial fisherman will clean the lakes out of panfish and it isn't going to take long.
the golf ball point is really spot on. I am of the assumption we were basing our "best" on a field of variable x. In this case x=knowledge and skill. If the value for x is filled by technology then knowledge and skill = null. Unless we're now basing "best" on who can use the technology better than the other. At this time I feel we're now basing our "best" on who can afford and use the technology best. And I'm making that distinction based on the highest paid level of fishing - B.A.S.S or MLF style tournaments. I think the agreed upon needs to be discussed first. Are fishing tournaments going to be who understands the nature of the beast best or who can find and capture them no holds barred? I feel and have always felt that tournaments should be technology deficient. I think the technology should be there to study and learn and then you put those lessons into practice in a tournament based structure. I do however, like your idea of levels - e.g. sonar and no sonar. Unfortunately I think, for those who wish to make this a career, we are at the mercy of the decisions the big tournament drivers make. I only hope the decisions are well thought out and made fair to all players. If we're picking the best, it needs to be a level playing field.
Sportsmanship matters... In all fishing.
A-Rigs being banned is just ridiculous in the face of this debate.
Funny thing is yesterday i just watched Hank Parkers show and he was using hummingbird 360, mega live mounted on a target lock. 🤔
So... He never said we shouldn't use it or ban it just that maybe we need some regulation on it in the tournament scene.
Regulated doesnt mean get rid of it. I
He didn't say that it's not good to use it . He was saying that it's bad for the sport. And it shouldn't be use in tournaments
@@alltree78 he did say "disallow"
360 is not ffs
KMSL!!! This hilarious that Hank would use this analysis saying some high school kids have and some doesn’t because it’s expensive, well there are some community that has always been deprived of just an opportunity to experience fishing, boating outdoors or just an education etc. I am for new technology but just limited the amount of FFS on an tournament boat that’s should be question. Just because you have the technology doesn’t mean you’re gonna catch them, I’m just amazed that we’re now talking about who can afford the equipment well let talk about the cost of owning a boat, truck etc. Boats now are over $100,000 that’s something to talk about
In tournaments, absolutely regulate, outside of that, guys who are feeding their families or guides, etc.... It's a way of making a living/ providing.
What about bed fishing !
Exactly!
the general non angling public scoffs at professionals using so much technology. that's not good for sustaining the tournament industry and definitely detrimental towards growth.
Hank Parker is one of the greatest bass fisherman ever. I ggree with Hank Parker 100% about FFS. It is starting to damage our fisheries and not just bass but also catfish,crappie even sbaggers are using it to locate and follow spoonbill.Conservatiob departments need to outlaw the use of FFS before all sportfish populations are decimated.
All these issues and we're in the model T stages ffs,what's it going to be like when it hits the Corvette level?Still be fun? Or just chasing a check,running around the lake trying to find 6lbers,I see it going down eventually,
I have watched pro bass shows from day one. I agree with Hank 100 percent.
I believe some strategic scheduling by BASS will take care of a lot of the issue. It they can get to the point where around half the tourneys are not a majority ffs dominant, they’ll be ok.
I think they might some day but for now they are fish in the head lights
Not one dam comment about the fishery.
I’m a former tournament angler, 15+ years tournaments director, spent almost 20 years along with other fishermen raising money to stock 500,000 fingerling bass into the Ohio River.
It’s should not be about the sport of tournament fishing. FFS will decimate the population of Bass, Crappie and Catfish in a lot of lakes and rivers. There are tournaments for these three fish everywhere.
90% of fishermen do not realize how fragile their fisheries are and how quickly they can be destroyed.
100% Agree, panfish, muskie, spoonbills, big catfish are all at risk - food chain and predators are a delicate balance and always at risk as it is but FFS has thrown that balance off in so many ways not just the targeting of a larger percent of the population by using it. The impact will only get worse. It was minimal the first 4years or so but the last few years have been terrible and only getting worse. It will be too late before people actually realize how bad things have gotten.
It Should Not Allowed In Tournament Fishing! People that have honed their Craft it's
time Wasted, with the Video Gamers , all they do is just that, and the kids know themselves they Cannot Compete in Tuesday Nighters, Without FFS!
It's pay to play, fishing for money. They all have it. It's the great equalizer, or at least it seems to be. Bring your a game or be disappointed. Best 5 win. Don't worry about what others are doing, YOU have to do your job and catch your best 5. I can't worry about what others are doing when I'm trying to convince a fish to eat my bait. And tech might help me find that fish. But I still have to figure out how to make it bite and catch it. Have had FFS since 2021, it doesn't always play, not even close. But it will send you down a rabbit hole into disappointment.
Also, how does this technology effect our fisheries? How many people like to go fishing knowing there were no fish to be caught?
It’s not about integrity in other sports it’s about the money! Everything is about the MONEY!!!!
Love it or Hate. Someone will have to make an opposing trail.
I don’t know how you regulate a sport that is Policed by the state and federal agencies, bass are the property of the state and you follow their guidelines. Taxes are paid by the sport and fund things within the state. No other sport is regulated by the state like fishing. I have a Livescope and use it on a Pelican bass raider the unit is 3x the price of my boat and I get on em with it. All of the financial burdens Hank talks about have to be within a budget not everyone needs a 70k bass boat, but a 1990s boat under 5k with a livescope seems rational.
Imagine 2 mobile transducers that are dropped on both sides of an area your fishing like a marker buoy on 2 sides and poll data to the head unit and are being used in tandem with a FFS so 3 points of scanning and poll data faster than ever before and can produce a 3d image instead of the 20 degree field produced by livescope alone. The technology is coming and it’s just going to get more advanced.
It’s simple to me. I have no problem with 360 for example. 360 helps you find structure and fish along with side scan. Just think about it, these 2 techs help you locate and find fish on particular structures. Bottom line is with these 2 techs mentioned, you still have to FISH for them. The live interaction with the lure and the fish has absolutely no ethics/integrity especially in the PROFESSIONAL realm.
it's definitely lowering the bar...for tournaments.
If ffs has no integrity, then neither does side imagining, mapping, 360, 100k bass boats,spot locks, power poles, and any other tool that makes fishing easier.
@@zimks seeing the live interaction with fish during tournaments is far beyond the capabilities of previous technologies. And the dire need to do so in order to compete only proves the point that it lowers the bar. Those that say it "evens the playing field" are only admitting that competitors who have won or done well, only by using FFS, could not have done so without it.
@@secretbassrigs “seeing the live interaction with fish during tournaments is far beyond the capabilities of previous technologies” that is 100% false and not true.
@@zimks I meant legal technologies, not "aquaview" FFS (For F__ks Sake)
We believe in Sir Hank
Interesting discussion. For me I have not installed it, mainly for price but also because I question my ability to focus on what I do now and constantly watch a screen at my age and experience level. also the one time I saw it in use,one of the 3 anglers onboard was able to capitalize on it but not the others. I’m not against technology but I can see the controversy this is causing for competition.
I wonder where the fish are going to hide from ffs. This will change the future of fish population.
42-48" of screen, larger screens, 3 units, smaller, your choice. 2 transducers on the boat total. Limit the use, do not destroy innovation. Just my take.
Thats an interesting idea with the transducers. You get two transducers on the boat total, choose between 2d, sidescan, DI, 360 or FFS. Cant have them all.
@JMFishing I only have 2 transducers, the ffs, and the one on the back that gives me sidescan, downstairs, chirp, or traditional. All I need. The ffs upfront in my transducer to shoe me depth and information needed. FFS is useless in 3ft of water and in heavy cover. But don't tell the haters that because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Imagine if you had never heard of panoptics and after you lost a tournament, you found out that the winner who smashed the field had live, forward facing, real time dinar and he saw every single one of his fish eat the bait.
You would be screaming,
"HEY! HE CHEATED!"
Id say you've been living under a rock.
To Hank, if you have any pull with Hummingbird have them reintroduce the Supersixty flasher. Had one for years and caught a lot fish with it.
All very valid points! 👏🏾
B.A.S.S needs to start another circuit for no livescopers, almost like a legacy league for the Hackney, Christie, Cox type anglers. OR, half the elite tournaments are no livescope to even out the field.
The last thing pro bass fishing needs right now is another split
@@horbie5039 “ The legacy tour “- I can see it now. It wont happen but would be cool to see. I dont think a split is a bad thing if there is enough division and disagreement within the field itself.
You do know Christie has been fishing ffs since Panoptix came out. Guess you forgot he used it to help win his classic. He had 2 units on his boat. But hey guess that was different.
Wait, there's a few issues here. #1 too expensive. Um $2600 for a unit and the lvs34, even cheaper if you want to get a 32. Yet no issues on trolling motors running $2700-4k for spotlock models. I mean basic is $1600 for a basic 36v fortrex. So we are picking and choosing which equipment is too expensive. Wait #2, comparing compounds in a goofball, aluminum baits in baseball to ffs is apples to lemons. YOU still have to catch that fish even if you can pick it out. Your presentation and bait have to be correct to trigger that fish. Now you wanna talk about performance enhanced equipment in bass fishing....$500+ bass rods, wait DC baitcasters that use tech to eliminate backlashes. So now those anglers don't have to learn how to have an educated thumb to cast as the older generation did. So they should be banned because the increase the abilities of the less talented casters by helping their casts. It's such BULLSH#T. Fish what you want let best 5 a day win. Been using it for 3 yrs, guess what it doesn't always play. The minnow doesn't always work! It's just another tool for information, just like a 360, sidescan, and mapping. Like shallow water anchors, spotlock trolling motors, high-end reels and rods, expensive baits, attractant, braid, fc, hydrowaves. It's all used to try and catch a bass. We don't ban frog fishing because some aren't good at it. Punching, not everyone can fish that way. Should those be banned too because it give those anglers that excel at it an advantage. Kinda like some anglers that utilize ffs in the early parts of the year when fish are prespawn, out in deeper water, or schooling offshore. It doesn't help flipping mats, doesn't help frog fishing, doesn't help fishing thick grass, doesn't help fish a jig, shake head, or Texas rig when they are stuck to the bottom. It can show you cover, structure, ledges, but so does 360 and sidescan. See all that above is extreme, kinda like the complaining because some have figured out how to use a minnow to catch bass like some figured out how to punch grass, fish a jig, or a frog. It's a technique, it's the new chatterbait rage when it came out. I fish the Westcoast, fish already have adjusted to it. Just like they do every bait and technique that comes out and becomes the new rage. Get over it and go catch your best 5, however it be. The one with the biggest bag per day wins, just like before. They all have it, it's not expensive. If that is the argument I wanna hear banning of spotlock trolling motors because it helps those anglers fish slow that those that can't afford it have to struggle to keep their boat in position, the ban on shallow water anchors because it helps those who can afford it sit still in shallow water without using a trolling motor. All of them are tools, if you know how to use them they become part of your strategy and approach, and success.
I should be able to deer hunt at night with FLIR.
lol!
You can, it's called don't get caught
Not only with hank and randy. I'm going into the googan squad tournament next month on hard mode. Pond hopping and no scope. Planning on some making some upsets.
Hank...nailed it
I agree with Hank. If it is a tool, you shouldn't have to have it to win. If that makes sense. Use it to learn the lake, but ban it in competition at least on championship day. How good of a fisherman are you, really, or are you just good when you have it telling you where the fish are.
Hank knows.
What an absolute boomer take. There are three different biological case studies done by the Universities of Texas, Oklahoma, and Missouri on the effects of forward facing sonar on game fish populations. All three of these studies show that there was zero negative effects on the fish populations. Professional fisherman said the same things about high def sonar(CHIRP), side imagining, 360, and built in nav charts as they are saying now about FFS. Times change, technology changes, and techniques change. In the words of one of one of my commanders from my time in the US Army while in Iraq, "The battlefield is an everchanging and ever-evolving space, you either adapt or you die." The same applies to professional fishing, adapt or die.
And all three studies also concluded that there is not enough data yet to draw a definitive conclusion on long-term impact.
Data shows that more pressure changes fish behavior. So if you haven't been fishing since 1990, then please stay off the lakes and waters. Your leading to the demise of the fisheries. I mean in the 80s it was good but now with so many fishing. Sorry if youre under 35, you need to limit your days to 2 times a month only.......sounds ridiculous doesn't it. Yet this is close to the argument of how ffs is destroying fishing.
@@fisherman7275 This right here. Yes! I've been told multiple times that it's all my fault and those like me who got in recently. You really nailed it with the 1990 reference. I've actually heard that said aloud. "If you weren't in by '90, you shouldn't be allowed to fish unless we say so." I was 6 in '90.
They just want the sport to die. Typical boomer attitude. "If I can't be the best at something then it shouldn't be allowed to exist." They just want the younger, more efficient MILLENNIALS AND Z's gone. Typical.
A ban NO a regulation YES I think should be only be 1 FFS transducer on the boat allowed
Hank got them arsenio fingers America!
So watching the fish eat the bait with FFS is ruining the sport BUT watching the fish with your EYES on a bed eating the bait after tormenting it for hours is perfectly OK. And of course taking her miles away from the bedding area while reproducing to weigh in.
Essentially, FFS changed the game into something we cant recognize as the original anymore.
So you never used your electronics ..this has made fishin fun to watch ..That right competition that all about it leave the sport something so good can be so bad hows it hurting anything. You try not be get into what why you hear for now
FFS is here to stay but should not be allowed for tournaments. Practice maybe but not during tournaments.
Big difference with the baseball and golf. Most stadium and courses were designed years ago and they don’t change AT ALL. Bass on the other hand aren’t going to stop evolving and being conditioned due to the fishing pressure. The only leg they have to stand on is their complaint about cost. A 50” flatscreen when they first came out was like $4000, I just a 72” for $300 something that has way more technology “smart TV”. Prices should come down. The big 3 are just out here to rape folks. If you want to complain, go lobby and complain to them not the people who are being taken advantage of by the industry. 40 years from now some old f’er will be complaining “when I was a kid we only had FFS, it’s too unfair now”. Give me a break, sh*t or get off the pot.
The relationship between tournament fishing and sponsorship is heavy!!! I doubt very serious they will put the restrictions on them bc of the kickbacks.
Let em use it in practice then shut off during tournaments
Only that want to embrace it are those that have no fishing skill
Love my livescope !!! will be mad as heck if the ban it
Which existed FIRST? Fishing…. Or tournament fishing.
Fishing has always been about whatever it takes to catch more fish.
Tournament fishing is about money and prestige.
Back in the day the guy who fished off the bank who owned no boat thought that fishing from a boat shouldn’t be allowed because he didn’t like the disadvantage.
When the guy who didn’t have an outboard looked at his paddles and said…. Motors shouldn’t be allowed in fishing…. It’s not fair that guy beats me to my spot everytime.
Grow up people
If you need it. Stay home. Ban it !
Why would you be for banning anything?
Need it? Does anybody need it maybe not… if they can afford it why not?
Are you going to regulate the guy with the 400hp pontoon too? You shouldn’t be for more regulation of tools.
I don’t even own one but I wouldn’t vote to ban them for the guy who saved all year to buy his 80yo dad one……united we stand divided we fall.
Creel & slot limits are enough regulation .
You can't use sports that have drafted youth into their sports for comparison. They don't normally have 30 yr old pros. Evolution of technology, pros used side imaging to find brush piles, how was this using all those years of tuition to find fish.
Fish will have no place to hide! Invention of braid changed the grass game.
Hank, what was the lightest line on a pros real 30 yrs ago. How many spinning rods? Techniques have changed.
Last point, old pros have more electronic experience using graphs than kids and video games. Moot point
But Hank uses cell phones cameras to see when deer are at his Feeder. HMM
I’ve got the original live scope where you just saw fuzzy blips ,but I was not unhappy when I pinched the cable ,I started fishing again instead of watching the screen
Is someone really that good of a fisherman if they need live sonar ?
#FFFS
FFS should be used by guides and weekend warriors, not anglers that call this sport their profession.
I will be filling my freezers compliments of FFS
Not everyone can be finessing king Gary Yamamoto!
FFS is invented.......
Beat me with what you know and i will respect you. Until then you will get NONE
When he won the classic he didn’t have ffs 😊 younger people are going to start winning and the people that can’t afford it won’t even bother fishing a tournament unfair playing field
I've noticed a lot of the Pro legends are starting to speak up and be heard on their FFS thoughts. Hats off to them ! They have used the knowledge they started gaining as kids to get where they are today and they expect other to have the same skill level that they do. I've been fishing for 60 years and never needed FFS to find and catch fish. I got no respect for the wanna be pro that stands on the front of his boat , rod in hand , staring down at his FFS waiting to see the perfect fish to throw his lure at. That's not talent or skill at all !
I have watched pro bass from day one. 2024 I have cut back 50 percent on watching pro fishing . I do not like looking at a pro team having more computers on board.More than a lot of airplanes.i could mount a forward looking radar on my 2012 bass tracker pro 165 . I could compete with big boys.i golf a lot .i have to use a spec ball. They do sale golf balls that will go about 40 yards farther.if you get caught using one of these balls you will removed from our league.The bass pro teams need new rules. Number one no forward looking radar. Bass released where caught.
He is talking about fishing tournament fishing guys.Dah
Fishing is more than just catching fish. Finding fish I prolly the hardest part and FFS takes that part out of the hunt.
FFS will affect all bass anglers eventually in that fish are over- exposed to lures all year round. This will decrease catch ratios and we will start losing recruitment to the sport. Also, it is being dominated by anglers that nobody has heard of. Not that that is bad in and of itself, but it is hurting the partisan fan base. We MUST have a strong fan base across a broad range of geographically dispersed anglers and a broad range of tactics and lure usage to appeal to a broad range of fans. Come on people think long-term here. It's not about pro-FFS or anti-FFS, it's about protecting the resource, protecting the spirit of competition, and protecting the integrity of the sport. I don't care if FFS is your thing or not. I care about Bass Fishing and continuing to grow the sport.
2:38 Ahhh there it is ..... He cant even say it with a straight face. "Not all electronics, but FFS, yes ban it."
Translation - " I'm all for using tech to catch fish, but if I'm not good with that tech and my friends arent either, then we should just ban it and go back to the good ole days where we was winnin and not these dang kids."
FFS is certainly divisive, but not how you think. It almost exactly correlates with an age split. If you're over 50, its the devil. If you're not, it's the Rosetta Stone.
Prior to COVID and FFS taking over, the bass fishing industry was on life support. It was a hyper exclusive good ole boys club.
Covid hit and shut the world down. Guess what was still allowed? Bass fishing sales went nuclear hot during Covid. Nuclear.
You saw an increase in customers by over 300%. You also saw people realize this hobby has a league system that anyone can join.
Theres the real rub. Hank and his ilk are furious that, all of a sudden, they're outnumbered at the local derbys by newbies with fully loaded next gen boats and A++ setups. More than that, they start losing to guys who didn't fish 4 years ago at all.
Its not about ffs really. It's about the lie being exposed: Anybody can be good at fishing. They intentionally framed the pros as a cut above, but it was always the access to tech that was the difference.
Now, that field has been leveled. And look what happened. Its all young, urban types who are rocking it. They've been exposed.
Funny how Hank rails against ffs but was THE main Pusher of side scan. Its all about legacy. These old hats are getting abused in tournaments because they cant figure out the tech. 40 years ago, Hank WAS the guys he's against now.
They hate it because they arent good at using it. Simple as that.
I like FFS but there are changes coming like it or not.
the changes are definitely coming for FFS use in tournaments.
Yes sir @@secretbassrigs
Go FFS. Embrace the technology. Hank Parker just to lazy to learn yet another new thing. Ffs will change fishing. Got to roll with the changes. And im 56. I got the old time knowledge and ffs.
Its not hurting our sport.
"The kids that have em are dominating"
Things are tough all over. Cough it up Pop.
If little Billy Coleman can work and save for his 2 redbones. So can anyone else. Put the straw down. Put the bag and rolling papers down. After you've worked saved and got a boat. Then u can go get ur 8 ball and go fishin!!!!!
"Less bait sales" wah wah wah. Saving fisherman some money so they can get better electronics. Getting to expensive is not a legitimate argument when your next one is " its hurting bait sales". Z man did that with stretchy plastics. No one complained then.
Ask Hank how many of his deer were killed fair chase? He may be a hypocrite if he applied his views on ffs to deer hunting.
a lot of folks have it but don't know how to use it, got to keep up with the jones!
Yeah, in the saltwater world you can certainly use it because you’re offshore and you’re over 300 feet of water totally different story but when you’re in freshwater and 20 feet of water and guys are running around like zombies all that’s going to do is encourage more people to go fishing and spend more money on boats and crowd. Our launches crowd, our lakes, who aren’t real anglers. This is not supposed to be easy for everybody. If it’s not you don’t like it then don’t fish.
I’m against FFS in tournaments because it does not require marine biology knowledge and skill. It’s more like a video game. And it’s BORING to watch.
Hmm you know absolutely nothing about what these guys are actually doing with FFS
FFS takes the challenge and mystery out of fishing. It's turned BASS and other fishing tournaments into watching (or not watching) boring fish catching exhibitions! Really, if that's what I was interested in watching, I'd go to Dave & Busters and watch people play video games. It has the potential to greatly harm fisheries. In golf they don't let tournament golfers use a yardage device. Why?...to protect the integrity of the game. In hunting some will think they're hunting on a high fence property. The fact is, no matter the acreage, it's still a cage and not hunting...just shooting and cheating yourself of the challenge of the hunt at that. In fishing FFS takes away the challenge of finding fish and a successful pattern...it clearly takes a day on the water from fishing to just plain catching.
Then don’t have it not every one can afford it so how is it fair…. It’s not fair
If you eat fish by all means get ffs.
I think bed fishing should be out laced its not doing the female bass any good I have ffs I think they should ban it in tournments
Hey Callum, great topic, by the way. Now I agree with some of the points Hank Parker has but disagree with others.
Buckle up. This may be a long one, lol.
Now Hanks view on Randy is really soft in my view. Randy has stated that all you need to do with FFS is drive out on the lake, and they basically fall on your hook. He called for the government to ban them from everyone. Called angler cheats, and snagers basically, the sky is falling.
I would be ok with the pro organizations putting a limit on how many screens and transducers, but banning it would be short-sighted.
They always say they want encouragement young anglers, and now they are reaping the fruits of this. You have to think these young anglers have 4 years of high school tournaments, then 4+ years of college/ university tournaments leading into higher fishing opportunities.
And these guys are not your truck drive who does good on the Thursday nighter who decides to try out in the bigs in his mid-20s.
As far as high school fishing goes, it would be good to teach them the basics of Bass fishing without FFS. Not because of what Hank said about the price, if you're dishing out 100k + on a boat, FFS is now as common as a side scan.
As he was talking about the golf balls not changing, don't forget that the course has set distances and they are not going to spend millions of dollars to make the courses bigger.
The Bassmaster Classic was not won 100% with FFS. Some in the top 10 never even turned it on.
Basically, let's keep a cool head about this and see how it plays out.
Regards, Steven 😎
His statement that FFS guys would fail without it and they are not versed enough to succeed is based on nothing but his opinion. Like RB, he is pushing his opinion and because his opinion is shared by others he feels it becomes fact. Yes a jon boat and a bass boat can comete against each other but one has an very distinct advantage over the other. If they were equal and FFS is the key then anglers could save the money on the boat and get FFS at the highest level. As technology has progressed in the world, those who refuse to learn how to use it fall behind, then wine about it and say it should be regulated.
Kids should not use it.
So he works for Humminbird and he didn't have a problem with Mega 360 same concept.
360 imaging not live
360 is a whole different bird, no pun intended.
It wasn’t too long ago, before FFS there was a lot of people complaining about all electronics. This isn’t the end of it either, in the end it will be all about the money.
@@anthoyellis5944no it's not live but continues to sweep, updated picture, shows everything but with a delay. But utilize the same way. Remember watching a tournament on Eufaula, everyone was fishing brush and making exact casts. Those that did good had either had livescope or a 360, everyone else suffered and beat the bank......but zero uproar then.....only when new blood comes in and starts winning. Then it's bad. Someone mentioned a tour for anglers like Christie, hackney, and Coxs, yet Christie has been using ffs since the beginning of panoptix gen 1. See change is scary for the older generation that doesn't understand it or unable to utilize it because of the "fish history". They do what worked before and the new generation is eager to try something different. They fish new lakes, they don't have history to fish, but trust in the information their electronics provide them. And then succeed. When you don't have past history to fish sometimes you're in a better place because you don't have that preconceived idea of what you need to do because of what you did before.
The history of golf isn't changing because people are hitting the ball farther...old guys who run elite country clubs got mad because todays elite drivers of the ball were hitting it so far that they weren't using the same clubs as the people they grew up watching (when a 300 yard drive just didn't happen or at least nowhere close to as often). Then you had courses going out and purchasing new land to extend the length of courses to try to get back to "the old way of golf". I get the nostalgia aspect of that but at least for golf, the young golfers are actually training like athletes which allows them to hit farther...along with a bunch more technology in clubs.
As far as FFS goes in tourney's, from a TV viewing standpoint the only difference I have noticed is that the angler looks down more. Still just looking at the guys back no matter what they are doing from any era. The information that you can get from both all depends on how much the angler is actually telling you. From the competition aspect, I would agree that it creates a disparity at the HS level. But once you get to the top end of the sport I don't have any issues with it. I think that saying that the guys can't fish without it is quite frankly just stupid and sounds more like a grumpy dock owner yelling at someone to leave their fish alone.
It's not about technology, it's about skill and how much technology lowers the bar.
@@secretbassrigs is it lowering the bar on skill or is it making it so that the guys that we’re paying for information are no longer the dominant force on tour? It’s a pretty ignorant comment saying it’s lowering the bar on skill if you actually look at the facts
@@zimks you said: "Is it lowering the bar on skill or is it making it so that the guys we're paying for information are no longer the dominant force on tour?" HUH?!?!
MY only response to your indecipherable argument is this:
Do you remember when it really meant something to see a pro set the hook on a strike and not a snag? Do you remember when just locating the fish was good enough to figure out what they wanted? So now, pros have to see what and how bass start or stop chasing a bait? Now prose literally have to see which retrieve is getting a reaction and which isn't, before ever feeling a strike? Just to be competitive? That's just like saying they can't compete without it. It only reinforces my point, that it lowers the bar!
@@secretbassrigs your argument is that the guys on professionals were experts on finding fish and knowing fish patterns. The truth is top level tournaments have always had a shady past of paying for information/waypoints and of guys lying about what they were doing and how they were doing it. We are in an age with younger kids have had access to the biggest wealth of information about bass fishing ever, it’s not shocking we are seeing a youth movement in the sport it would have happened with or without FFS. If it is lowering the bar please go to these lakes and catch 30+ pounds for 5 and do it 4 days in a row with 100 other guys fishing on the same lake. It’s easy right???
@@zimks so your come back is blaming the profiteering by the tournament industry? Pfft! 😂
I think it’s unfair, fish don’t have a chance……..Tournament use should be banned ……or make FFS only tournament
This is sad watching this. I didn’t think Hank would fall in the category of hating on the ffs. Either buy the technology and learn it or find another sport!!!!!
he is just mad because old people have old ways so what if he spent a 100years doing what now can be done in a few minutes he wants to use his electronics in a tournament but not others.
I like Hank, but I find his comments kinda hilarious when the mounted deer in the back ground were probably killed over (Come Here Deer) bait.
Ban it.
If anything should be banned, its tournament fishing, it is not good for the sport of fishing.
There time for younto pack your bags bud let the young guys in..nothing say that done anything to fishing ..Tourament fishin should be ban to weekend Angler can't even get on the ramp cause so many TOURAMENT Angler think you should give them your spot cause there fishing For Money not for the fun of it ..2 Toyrament n you think you got it figure out ..yourfull of it
Come on guys it has not to do with ffs it to do with lure sale. Lure sale are these older fishing men make there money that way 80% are sales.
This is stupid just because you can see them don't mean you can catch em
Old people stuck in the old ways.. cant wait for 9 more new guys coming
If I want to build a time machine before your eyes all I have to do is raise the speed limit from 55mhp to 70mph. you new kids on the block will never be that smart.
Ban it 100%
An idea....If an angler wants to use FFS for a tournament "they get NO practice days on the lake"....none FFS anglers get their 2-3 days practice but must prove they DO NOT have FFS on their boat (boat inspection by Tournament officials) and tagged as none FFS boat.
Ffs is not fishing in my opinion
Those guys that don't have any ability to find and locate fish use that video game,and they have no skills,even you that made this video,you have no skills to find fish
This is stupid. Every channel talks about FFS constantly now. Electronics or not, I catch the fire out of some bass. some days with FFS some days without. None of these jughead professionals complained when they got to start side scanning and down scanning. And who Likes Randy? He’s a quack generating content simply for $$. Lastly, FFS is expensive?? There are HS teams fishing off $100k Ikon’s! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ffs crutch should be banned.
Ffs = hooked on phonics for anglers
Are you a pro angler or a ffs spotlighter. The two don't go together.
Wild take, FFS is maybe 6 grand, but boats are 100k. If you buying 100k boat then I’m sure 106k isn’t going to break you.
I pull troll crankbaits and bottom bounce. Every lure ffs friendly.
Also comparing mlb and golf is stupid. Anglers pay to play, also the electronic sponsors pay the anglers and the leagues, which if that money left the sport would be done for.
Hanks got all those high fences deers on his wall, he prolly uses trail cameras as well. But hey he old and I wouldn’t expect anything different.
I agree it ruined fishing
A set of power poles cost more than livescope, IMO the money thing is BS
All sports are dominated by the younger generation.
This a new chapter in the sport that started with college and high school fishing taking off. The split in 2019 has shown everyone you are replaceable.
Remove FFS and watch how fast sponsorship dollars disappear. 🎣 it’s a tool that everyone can purchase. If you want to be competitive you have to use all the tools available. Tight lines everyone!