6th Order BandPass Build Sundown ZV4 12" on 2K
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2014
- Alright guys here's the build for the 6th order with 1 of the sundown Zv4 12's, now just so you know the 6th order performs much better than a 4th for this woofer and even better than a ported box as far as flat response is concerned
Internally 6.8cubes, small side tuned to 42hz and big side is 28hz
the box peaks at 32hz in the car and again at 44hz doing at the moment a 140.6 at 32hz which aint bad, still doing high 130's at 26hz, very low and musical box and id say even better than my kicker 4th order (similar in lows but its better up higher)
Metering did 144db at 32hz and was still doing 141db at 46hz
Hope you all enjoy was my first 6th order plus I personally designed it, hopefully will see it wired at 0.5ohm at some stage with conservative gain but still more power
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I wish I had half the box building skills you have. Oh and the designing and tuning! Nice work!
Awesome builds, thanks for sharing!
Looks like you did a very well job building your box an should perform well for you nicely tuned as well . Thanks for sharing your progress.
Your work is very very clean! Thanks for the video :D
Nice, clean.
Timmy Trumpet playing in the background.👍
Very impressive results for a single 12in sub!!!
Loosk good. Itention to detail makes the difference. Great work.
That's a nice build. Great job!
for one single 12' is very impressive!! a lot of work seem! cool
Great to see you back mate
doing this build right now hope it comes out great good job man...................
Nice build seeing it's your first 6th order, curious about when I build my slot port box for 2 kaption spl 1200s. I'm using 3/4 mdf couldn't get birch but I glue each board together and predrill for my screws correct, that way wood won't split but is wood glue what I use our should I use silicone etc?
Cool this project! He was very strong...
Nice work and terrific outcome on the meter, but, try adding a few top to bottom & side-side braces and you might be surprised by both the increased output and tightening up of the bass tone.
You simply cannot add 'TOO MUCH' bracing!
Inspirational! - It's been a long, long time since my World Record, time to start building again.
Looking really good mate totally bravo will done good job on your box
Nice! Subbed after watching this!
badass box, props!
Very nice! And that flex! :D
just a quick question nice build by the way whos running this channel now so like who is the big contributors im trying to show some sedan boot and no backseat builds and backseat in builds
and need to know who to look at
Ren
Great job mate!!!, You have a new subscriber!!!
Hey mate, awesome videos and keep Em coming!! I watched some of your other videos and got the 12 v dot com off you and WOW, I got a sweet 12" box build out of that. I just set my amp up properly and are amazed at how much you can get out of a single 12" on 1.2k @ 1 ohm :-) :-) :-) :-)
good stuff!! i want a suv or bigger car.. i have two DSS Ethos 12's now and it sounds great for two 12's but always wanted to try a 4th order or 6th order
How much would you charge me to build me the same box? I just bought a ZV4 12" & I'm needing a good box for it.The one you made is bad ass,Great Work
You do a really nice job and take your time making it look neat! Too bad you don't live in the states or in Michigan, U.S. where I am because I would definitely use you to build my box/ enclosure!
Nice build!
i love the attention to detail brother...my dd9515 has kinda the same specs...mind if i use this design or get more demensions from you?
the box 📦 Reminds me of the movie
THE MAZE RUNNER
This is awesome, i wanna make for fosgate punch p3 500 w rms too. I love it,
Man you do some awesome work!! You don't do custom ordering do you and ship to the states?
Do you use a program for your designs or is it all in your head? I am still trying to learn the aspects of a fourth order and I always have issues with the port area.
Beautiful work mate 👏🏾
Nice video man. What will happen if I make both Chambers the Same size?
muy bueno... un saludo desde Perú... lastima que acá en mi país no se puede fabricar una de esas extraordinarias cajas por la coca experiencia... un abraso...
how much rms do you have? nice work man!!
Hi. Please help me to understand why if you have a sealed box(40,88,26 centimeters) that has a volumen of 91520 cubic centimeters, but if i want to change to 40,68,46 cm, the volumen is not the same, just the volumen is more less similar with a 10,68,33.6 box that has a volumen of 91392 cubic centimeters.
If i build the 10,68,33..6 cm box, the sound would be the same with the 40,88,26 cm box?
Rockford Fosgate Called them 7th Order Quasi boxes back in the day.
WTF!!!! HOLLLLY CRAAAAP IT"S AN ACTUAL EARTHQUAKE!!!! Great Job Man lol
I think the subs terminals was genius
Very Nice...
That is the way I going to make my box 😊😊😊
Have you made any custom cabinets and then shipped them Australia wide?
Just wondering if the cost of postage via courier is worth you making the cabinets as I CBF anymore...
You have good skills that you're keen to share which is great in this "secret squirrel" line of work!
Great! So powerful booming Bass, U created a very impressive Subwoofer with designed a excellent enclosure,,,, ,,,,,, Guys and team please recommend me, I mean give me a best suggestion, If I should create a subwoofer and enclosure for an 8 or 10 or 12 inch very heavy and deep booming bass then what size should I make for 8 inches and 10 or 12 inches and what and how many watts subwoofer should take its For the open hall of 15 × 25,,,,,
actually I'm a Music Lover too especially of impressive Powerful booming long throw shaking deep Bass,,,,
Thank U,,,
waiting for ur suggestion,,,
belissimo projeto,...muito grave, tremeu tudo,....seria possivel mandar as medidas dessa caixa, gostei muito quero fazer uma dessa......
This So Great... Do U Have a Sizes ???
How was the sq? did it have really good punch and accurate?
I have a zv5 15 dual 1ohm, do you think I could build the same box but slightly bigger and still get this same sort of response? I’ll be running a sundown saz2500 at 2ohm for now and then I’ll drop it to .5 once I beef up my electrical with more 1 extra battery.
Nice.
Nice
Olá amigo gostaria de saber qual caixa ficaria boa para um subwoofer Pioneer de 400 RMS para um pancadão interno e parabéns pelos seus trabalhos.
so good
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I have 2 12" Memphis I want to built the perfect box for them I just don't know what the measurements would be and port.
Looking yo build a 6th for a kicker l7x solo x 12 ..what ratio would you recommend. It's my first time building a 6th order I have experience with bandpass ported enclosures with 14 to 16 sq inch of port area per cubic ft .
Awesome job . First time I see a 6order.. ok the way you have it wired . How is that work?
Just like a terminal cup. all they are is metal on both side with clamps right? sooo a metal bolt technically the same thing, and the nut is the clamp.
What type of box would you recommend for a chrysler 300? 2 12" pioneer ts-w300D2D2? Previously I've had different iterations of vented boxes in an explorer and am considering options for the Chrysler... I like that feeling a lot of bass will give you in your chest lol
also any advice for using winisd? Its what I've used for my 3 previous builds but I haven't played with/understand the different box alignments any explanations/suggestions?
Definitely go ported or bandpass. Look at the specs on the pioneer box and how much volume they call for. 2 pioneer champions will get pretty loud on a ported box built to spec. I think it's 1.5 cu ft per sub
can you tell me the sizes of it, i want to build the same one
I have zv5 15 in kerfed box. How much happier would I be with a well designed 6th order in 05 Cherokee
Is this a series or parallel 6th order? I assume its parallel based on the chamber sizes?
I know I'm on the next model...but in just a to spec slot ported box on sundown's website, my zv5 12 on 2 sae 1500ds, did a 140.09 @35 hz in an ext cab 06 Silverado with no deadening..first time I ever metered as well..figured a 6th even on a zv4 woulda done better.
Hey mate, I really need some help on this 4th order I'm building. Its a 2:1 ratio (port:seal) 4ft³:2ft³ (I'm running 2 12" sub's). I was going to make my port tuned to 41hz, but I don't know if I am tuning this correctly. I used a normal ported box calculator to figure it out but I'm not sure if that having it bandpass that will effect the tuning of the port.
I was also wondering what my range of frequencies I can play without any damage or issues to anything in my system (what can my highpass lowpass filters be set to).
I saw a guys 4th order box be tuned to 43hz but he was able to play well into the lower 20hz and upper 10hz.
Nice box. How could I get a build sheet? To build my own
What ratio between Chambers would give the best output?
Will 2 275 rms subs run best in this type of box or not much more bass compared to a aero port box fully external
What sub?
what amp you using? Imma be pushing 2k on my sub but it's an sa18
+NerdyKidan this was running of a crescendo BC5500d at 2ohm
You wouldn't happen to remember the cu.ft. volume of each chamber would you? Because I am wanting to build a box similar to this one, but I just don't know what size to make the large or small chambers as far as gross volume...
I need this deigned for a sundown x 15 v2 so I can try an build it lol
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So, for this speaker, for music, ported or 6th. order?
How much volume in cubic feet have the 42hz and 28hz's boxes?
how do we order a custom box and how much louder is it then a regular one ported box
was that webbie six 12s at the end.
From my experience. Facing the port towards the front of the vehicle, makes the subwoofer sound louder.
What is loudest and sounds best is different for different vehicles,applications and personal preference.
I've noticed that in hatch vehicles with ported boxes,people tend to go sub up port back for daily,and I've seen a lot of sub up port to driver's side in spl competitions.Also seen sub forward port to rear in CRXs and sub up port up in Pandas and Yugos.
I have the same sub.... Do you think that this box is the best for this box? i want to build one for the sub. i have in my home. I just want a low without turbulence or mechanical noise at those ultra low frec. like 20 hz.
+jesus Flores if you want no wind noise and still decent output id consider running some passive radiators with it
+jesus Flores My sub is 15" with a Xmax of almost 4", and for the same Xmax this sub has, i thought that maybe the 6th order box with one or two 8" flare ports in each enclosure could be the solution for eliminating the turbulences, or maybe 2 slots of 4" by 31" length in each enclosure. Some people say that the port tube are the best for the best sound than the slots, but ....... i do not know what to do.
+jesus Flores unless you have A LOT of air movement you won't notice it on a slot port that's built right, I run 18 and 20hz daily on my c15 and I can't tell how much it's moving unless your looking at it, and that's on 2700w
How much port area per cubic feet did you used?
Great job ! have you test this 6th order single 12" on a termlab ?
Siale Kengike yeah it was metered did a 144db at 32hz and 141db at 46hz on a little under 2000wrms
mean number on 32hz. nice job on the boxes bro.
Siale Kengike it did 120 @ 32hz
Australia's Biggest Bass Channel lol that's low for a 6th. I am doing 147 with 1 10 on 2500 watts 😂
At 36 by the way.
What did you use to design this? Or where did you get the info? Trying to build one for a single 12 but can’t find any real info, diagrams, or programs to help me.. I’ve built tons of ported boxes but now want to build bandpass boxes
i used winISD pro for most of the tuning ideas and response curves etc and then also the12volt.com when cross checking port lengths
Buenas noches quiero poner en un Jetta una pioneer 12 qué medidas puedenser para que me den resultado como el cajón que hiciste el video me podrías alludar
Hey brutha i'm just kind of bored and want to build something new. I happen to have a zv4 12. Would you mind giving me the cut list to this enclosure in a pm? I just want to play with it and see what it sounds like. Great job building it btw.
Brad Edginton I don't have cut sheets, I design a box and build it most of the measurements are just in my head
s the SUNDOWN ZV4 , THE BEST SUBS FOR LOW DEEP BASS
That thing is the sh.t
can you tell the measurements of the box because i'm very interesting to build one like this . thank you
Can you send me the specs for this box
Any chance he sent you the specs?
Unless your idea of a 6th order and mine differ greatly, I believe a 6th order is a ported box playing into yet another ported box. This just appears to be two ported box joined "at the hip" if you will. It's almost an 8th order that's missing the port connecting the two ported enclosures.
Team DTP your type is also a 6th order, there are multiple types
Your explaining a series tuned 6th bandpass. He did a parallel. There's also 6th order bass reflex aswell
I considering building a 4th order for a 12 inch Fi BTL. But I may want to build a 6th order instead. Is there a basic rule when building a 6th order box? Like the ratio per enclosure and port tuning for each side?
mastagoof no real basic rules you need to design the box for your specific sub, i use WinISD pro
Looks mint man. What sort of $ do you charge for a box like this out of interest?
We'll theres a few factors, if you say to me I have these subs and this space build me something then I charge less I like to design and do my own thing but for a box like this about $500 which is about $300 than a shop would typically charge (I normally do things a bit over half a shop cost)
300 less than a shop
Id rather not ship boxes but so normally only can do them if your picking it up
***** do you design boxes? i would love a 6th order for 2 sundown X 18s.:P:P:P
***** thats a pretty good price. better than shop quality too :D
Next time you should try tuning your 6th about an octave apart! For example 28hz and 56hz
2:1 and octave tuning gets you in the ballpark - the larger chamber tuned lower and being about the size or just over the size of a ported box you would use for that driver.
What is that vibration doing to your brain and ear drums ???
How do you stop your windshield from cracking? I was on my third when i gave up on bass
HI. If you want a deep low bass, with a deep resonance, particularly at 20 hz., in your opinion and experience, wich boxe is the best, the 4th order, or the 6th order'?
+jesus Flores 4th order for sure, when tuned right they play what you want, and a 6th will too but its much harder too tune and seem to work with less woofers
hi i have been watching your videos for a fairly long time and i now have a mitsubishi magna yer i know get the hate over wanting to do it up lol but its my car and i was wondering with out worrying about the price on any of the items what subs amps and speakers would you suggest as in i only want 2 subs in the boot as i still need it as a family car but if you were building a system for it what would you use to get the best bass and the clearest sound out of the system i want something that can either break windows or close enough to so it can go loud enough and still be clear enough that you would never want to turn it up that loud and also do you just have youtube page or do you also have a facebook page thank you for your time
I'm getting ready to build a 6th order for my sa 12. I have 2 of them but don't know how to get them in my trunk without taking up to much space. If I do one sub what is the ratio of cubes per chamber?
Theron Culp Best thing to do is put all the woofer specs into WinISD pro or term pro and play around with different size chambers and tuning and see if what you can fit will have a decent response curve
I like the build. But I don't know why the person got rid of the old setup though with the 2 zv4 12's. I liked the 2 zv4 build that you did a while ago.
so did I, main reason was I built him a all rounder box that's looked good played all music and was loud but he wanted those numbers so put in that spl box (granted did gain 3db) but that didn't mean the trim I did had to be destroyed just a sloppy install
this looks a bit better in there at least but nothing compared to what I did originally
I've gone through a few boxes, yes that particular build was the best looking one and I showed it off / demo'd it at its fair share of competitions - but it got boring and I wanted to change it up; whenever I want to though it is ready to drop back in
OMG!!! Do you guys design boxes?!?! I can pay :) I'm looking for a 6th order bandpass for my 15" Sundown Zv4d2, hopefully 28hz peak, only need good SPL at 28hz to 36hz, so MONSTER peak, not flat :) Max dimensions I have are 23"x28"x22" and would like the ports to come out of the 23x28 side. If dimensions are too small then I could do 46"x28"x22" and ports out the 46x28 side. Lemme know please and thanks :)
Are you still looking for a box design?
i asked this on another vid of urs but this one seems more suitable. i cant find sundown anywhere in aus. where do u get them?
smallenginedude71 I havn't bought any sundown yet myself, but you need to find a team sundown member at a comp etc and they should be able to help out, im pretty sure you can also get stuff from SSA audio in the US too
All the sundown in these vids is jacobs
***** ah ok. thanks for the info!
smallenginedude71 I'm pretty sure Sonny Trunk Paonga (the trunk king) on Facebook is a Sundown dealer. He's located Brisbane somewhere...
I'm thinking of building on like this for one sundown 18, I got 14ft3 to work with should I go as big as possible. I'm putting 10k watts to it and want it to pound hard my friend please let me know
Depends on the Thiele small parameters of the driver and the response of your car. I don't know whether 10,000 watts will exceed the displacement or thermal limits of the driver depending upon what tuning you use.
Song Plz?
how could i do this box for 3 10's?. im wanting to put 3 rockford fosgate punch he2 10's in my 71 super beetle
+Ricky whited (KumudgenMotorsInc) well yes you could build a 6th order for those subs but it will need to be very different to this box in size and layout
+Australia's Biggest Bass Channel im tryin to figure out how to build it.. ive heard these speakers in a shared sealed enclosure and they sound amazing. was thinkin of doing it similar to that but as a 6th order bandpass
what software did you use for designing the box ?
winISD pro I used for the frequency curve chart
How much for one like that
is it better 9to put the woofer inside the box ... i mean ...( that symbol is wood of the box [ and that symbol is the woofer 0.. so is it better to put it [ 0 ] or to put it outside the box like the classic way 0[ ] ???
+Kostis Ketikidis This is a 6th order bandpass, different from your conventional subwoofer box.
What are the measurements and port dimensions