"That's like saying a disease is too terrible to cure." Louis C.K. (Apr 25, 2016) | Charlie Rose
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- Comedian Louis C.K. talks about the art of comedy and why he disagrees that some things are too awful to joke about. The full interview airs on PBS on April 25, 2016.
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My left ear enjoyed it.
The panning is too heavy (there shouldn't be any panning for that matter). Charlie was in the right ear.
I wish there was more reverb and wah effects.
@@gantmj Probably mixed on speakers which don't sound as drastic with this effect. Same way as the Beatles sent the drums to one side of the stereo which was never done once producers started using headphones.
Mr. H needs some Leslie effects and automatic double tracking on Charlie
Your mom too
Moments after the interview: "Hey Charlie, real quick, would you... would you mind if I... uh... "
Underrated comment
Charlie: Yeah sure….you carry on while I grope my hot new assistant here.
Still not sure what the "crime" was
@@Terminxman apparentlyyy u cant want to be intimate with your employees
BUT WHAT THEY ARENT TELLING YOU IS THAT CHARLIE AGREED TO IT
"Saying that something is too awful or terrible to joke about is like saying that a disease is too terrible to try an cure it" such a clean summary of his view on comedy.
On the other hand sometimes you can tell that someone just wants to be mean when making a joke, I think that's what sets people off.
Too bad it's bullshit. I spent five years of highschool being joked about. It doesn't feel like a cure for anything.
@@jbrisby context matters. Hes not talking about your situation. Sorry to hear that though
@@jbrisby same but that’s just bullying. I think he prob should’ve been more specific
@@brendanbuhhhh There is a difference between being offensive and being offended. It's related to intent and personal sensitivity, which may not always align.
It also takes a bit of social intelligence and perception to tell the difference. We are certainly losing that in society at the moment.
"Of a sane man there is only one safe definition. He is the man who can have tragedy in his heart and comedy in his head." - G.K. Chesterton
Holy shit. That dude is dead on
Wow ur. Deep
@@RoyArrowood Chesterton is the Louis CK of the last century, read his short and light essays, they’re amazing.
@@tejasnair3399 I'd never heard of him. I'm looking him up though. Louis CK nailed it in this interview, and the above quote is profound enough that I'm keen to read more from the originator.
Woah. Great quote. (Actually thought this without reading rest of comments lol) but really yes. This reminds of the quote "great minds think alike" (Louis and Chesterton)
About a week after my dad passed, one of my closest friends purposely said a dead-dad joke in front of me-I forget what it was-but I laughed hysterically and then hugged my friend and told him “thank you.” Humor really is the best cure for terrible situations (if you can handle it) ❤️
It depends on the situation and delivery.
Share us the joke. Condolences btw
You laughed hysterically at a dead dad joke? Is that even possible?
Sorry about your Dad Kris and good for you in taking it in good humour. A little too soon in my opinion but he must be a good pal. x
@@38smithwessonspecial11 some advice; read twice, the answer will reveal itself.
"The only intelligent tactical response to life’s horror is to laugh defiantly at it." - Søren Kierkegaard
oh boy, we're getting Kierkegaard quotes in this bitch, I love it
@@SalimonuDavid I had never read his work but thsi quote got me inspired enough to text a dozen people I would.
"That is so terrible we can NEVER joke about it."
"Well, if something is that awful, then you BETTER start joking about it."
The man is a genius.
Whenever I hear Louis C.K. I learn something.
Why don't you follow him🤣
@@zainbunga3002 Follow him to where ? 😂
Especially when he calls you to tell you how pretty you are and starts moaning between words and you can hear a rhythmic slapping sound in the background.
@@bejoysen4468 You have an imaginative mind, I see. Since you typed, I guess you have hands too. Put your mind and hands in a better use; or if this is the best you can do involving those - then never mind ^_^
What an odd comment thread this is so far...
anyway, I agree. Louie is a modern philosopher of sorts. He thinks about things deeply. Like his skit about everything is amazing and no one is happy.
He is ( or was) following in the footsteps of Carlin for a while.
This is one of the truest insights I have ever heard. It might be one of the most essential, and yet overlooked, realizations that any of us could possibly employ - "curing" terrible things with levity and joy.
Just two normal guys at the hight of their careers having a chat. Sure hope nothing went wrong for them after this.
😂😂😂😭
Exactly what I was thinking.
That’s too awful to joke about…
What happened?
@@PeaceAtLastMetal lol
A guy who always brings it and sometimes pulls it.
😂👏👏👏
I completely agree with Louis CK on this.
+Roger Allen play it fucking loud
+spooninspoon Judas!
Roger Allen i don't believe you. you're a liar!
This is true with religion. If you can't joke about your religion, then you're in a cult.
That literally makes no sense whatsoever.
@@Cruizzerr you're in a cult
@@Cruizzerr hhhhh man the dude got reddit into his name
@@Cruizzerr Really? Joke about Mohammed and you're freekin' dead. It's a bronze age cult.
@@Cruizzerr A cult is a stricter version of a religion; stricter probably means you can't make fun of it.
Not so hard to connect the dots man...
I used to say "if you can't joke about it then it's probably not that bad." But Louis says it better.
If you can’t laugh about it. Then you truly will never move on from it. Laughter is acceptance of what has happened
To add on to what Louis said, I think the reason people think you shouldn't joke about "bad things" is because said people are under the impression that making a joke about something is the same as making fun of something. A racist joke is, more likely than not, making fun of racism, not of the people affected by racism, for example.
exactly, i was on the fence before because i like dark humor but i feel like people make light of serious subjects are making fun of it and the people who suffered especially when it drastically affects people but at the same time they're usually mocking the people in the wrong so its not that bad. we do cope with things through humor but we also don't enjoy having our pain mocked and laughed at. nothing is off limits however, just know how to tell a good joke.
BathroomTile not really
It sounds like you're rationalizing it a lot. A racist joke is often, more likely than not, just racist.
Every joke about a trans person I've heard is making fun of the trans person. That wouldn't be the worst thing in the world... _if_ trans people had acceptable rights. Same goes for other demographics in a similar position.
@@jemusandran1575 They don't have acceptable rights? Then why are biological men allowed to compete in womens sports? Oh yeah, that's unacceptable rights.
The greatest comedian of all time
Absolutely.
GOATS of comedy:
1. Louis CK
2. Bill Burr
3. Dave Chapelle
This is the best explanation of dark humor I've ever heard.
The audio is very much on the left.
+a single white female C.K is panned hard left, Rose is panned hard right. It's an interesting way to record the audio, I think.
+MootCoffee I worked for television and this is the usual way to record audio. You pan the mic of your subject left and the mic of the interviewer right. Usually there's another audio track that records ambient sound. All tracks are later mixed in post and usually you pan each audio track the way you need it to make everything sound the most natural and understandable. This recording seems to be a bit under-mixed. Someone forgot to balance out the audio tracks before rendering.
+a single white female Louis is liberal
I see what you did there. U think you're slick huh?! well it kinda was..... kudos to you my good sir.
Wow this video is so clear and crisp
truly a one of a kind comedian
We all have something to learn from this man
My left ear agrees with this.
that is actually a very deep and inspiring idea he brought here up
His comedy is wild but getting a peek into his thought process explains it… and I think I agree…
Brilliant. I can totally relate to what he says 👍
These two together.... that's funny.
pretty soon they'll get everyone
awful audio mixing
Left ear: 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Right ear: yeah!
In case you needed proof that Louie CK is Mexican, he has a Virgen de Guadalupe pillow in the background..
Comedy is focusing on the absurdities of life... so I honestly don't see how anything could be off-limits.
I think Louis C.K hit the nail on the head here when he said that he wouldn't do a joke about something if he couldn't make a funny joke or non-boring joke out of it.
I really take a dislike towards people who say we shouldn't make jokes about rape, but are completely okay with jokes about anything else that is just as bad or even worse than that.
+ZombieKilla I think it's just harder to make jokes about rape that are good. Rape and murder aren't funny at all in themselves, but you can joke about one- murder- easier than the other, I think because people are less likely to think you secretly like the idea of murder and want to try it out. You know what I mean? it's a little less creepy.
ihatecountry777 Yeah, I know what you mean.
But there is this taboo on rape jokes that seems to be almost unapproachable before you get the stink eye.
I think rape is one of the most absurd things in the world-going back to how comedy is the absurdities of life.
I think if someone were to focus more on the rapist rather than the rapee or the act of rape, a funny joke could be pulled out. Everyone likes to laugh at the bad guy.
Wasn't antuan Dodson a rape joke the entire nation loved? Hide yo kids hide yo wife
It's like Harry was able to kill voldemort and it started by him not being able to say his name. by making it untouchable you give it power
"Saying that something is too awful or terrible to joke about is like saying that a disease is too terrible to try an cure it. That's what you do with awful things you joke about them,that's how you get through it,it's how you survive life. So to say hey, that's way too awful I can't joke about it; that's totally counter intuitive to me. If it's sooo terrible then you better start joking about it because that's how human beings get through it"
Words of fucking wisdom.... Apply that context to everything and whatever fear,atrocity or agency is attached to it becomes pliable. It never has to resort to anything too its extreme. If it can be funny people should learn to laugh as opposed to getting upset and resentful and finding a way to be offended. There is nothing in this world that can't be funny.
+spooninspoon
I don't think thats true... terrible things in themselves are obviously not funny, it takes alot of skill to make fun of something really terrible. Thats why Louie is one of the greats. There are plenty of shitty comics who get cheap laughs out of making fun of gross subjects, but theyre only appealing to other douchebags. Louie only goes after subjects if theyre overexposed or people are TOO afraid of them. He doesn't just pick taboo's out of a hat, he doesn't get off on offending people.
Right but there's a process he has to go through to make something funny... and that's whats great about comedy... No doubt there are shitty comedians but I think bad jokes and good jokes come from the same place...It's subjective Most people can pick up on someone who does what you are saying an that person should have the right to say what they want. Nobody is forced to like or listen to someone who does that...I think anything and everything is fair game, we all have our lines of personal decency, i'd hope. The reason I know that is because I myself have been offended before if i have never been offended id start to worry about my environment. i've also said to myself there is no way THIS subject or event or premise could EVER be funny and then someone comes along and pulls it off. I believe in free speech,its easy to navigate something by using context and nuance. we have to accept the fact there is gonna be people who are assholes in this world of which we have to put it up with from time to time...If someone has the ability to take a premise that most people including myself would find offensive and they pull it off I find it admirable...
Louis is one of the most insightful comedians who ever graced the stage.
It's a sad state of affairs, when we have to be reminded of this. Based on many comments, it's as if it's the first time an idea like this was said in history. Are you saying humor can be helpful to deal with tragedy?? No way, amazing.
Stupid people are never funny because they aren't smart enough to comprehend facetiousness. Fair enough, I just wish they wouldn't project that unfortunate malady onto the rest of us. No one forces them to listen to comedy and they're never able to elucidate what supposedly horrible effects edgy comedy is going to have on society. They seem to think that such jokes are going to fundamentally alter individuals' perceptions of serious issues but if mere jokes can have that effect on a person, literally anything else could as well. Stupidity is the issue, not comedy. I'm not in favor of nerfing society based on dumbasses.
@@seth5143 Totally agreed, and well put. It's hard for me to believe that the world has devolved so much, so quickly. Then when I think about why, it makes more sense, but that's a topic for another longer discussion.
@@seth5143 Ok, couldn't resist. Stupidity and absurd behavior used to be diluted because people were exposed to a representative cross section of society at large. We all listened to the same news, interacted with neighbors and work people. Crazies were isolated from each other simply by their rarity, so consensus was usually formed naturally.
With internet, outliers of thinking were able to communicate with each other and confirm each other. They were able to find validity in these groups. On the internet everyone has a voice, and we started to treat opinion as a right and offensive to question. Don't call me crazy, lots of people agree with me. If your idea is agreed by 500 people, it can't be nutty, right? 500 people of 4 billion. Yes it surely can.
The second part and the super fuel to this change was social media algorithms to increase engagement and advertising driven economy. This is driven as giving you more of what you already think. Truth or value of this is irrelevant. See more of this and watch this ad. Everything online is free because we are the product to advertisers, so we get grouped into demographic groups and isolated from others who are different, so that we feel good. Getting the likes on your post is literally the same as certain drugs in the brain. Facebook knows this.
So we end up with opinions being facts while facts are just opinions. What one feels is reality, and if you feel uncomfortable by someone's words, it's their fault.
Nobody tells anyone they are wrong anymore, because anyone can find confirmation for any thought.
I don't know what the future holds. Hopefully new generations will figure out how to work within that environment successfully, or as happens the world sometimes takes a step backwards to a dark age.
Just my theory, don't tell me I'm wrong, I don't want to hear it.
@@wyskass861
Nah, I won't tell you you're wrong. I think all of that is true but the conditions you describe only exacerbate problems which already existed. I'll also add that remarkably intelligent people can believe crazy nonsense as well, especially if such beliefs are comforting to them or confirm some bias they have (ie. intelligent people who are also fiercely religious because the implications of the religious ideology they've chosen to subscribe to allays their fear of death or arms them with a sense of certainty). I suppose what I've just suggested drives against my original statement but...thought I should say it anyway. I don't know what the future holds either but I'm not optimistic at all. I used to think the internet was a net positive and hope it is in reality. The problems you allude to-and others-could be partially alleviated by breaking up these massive internet monopolies but unfortunately you'd need another concentration of power in order to do that and the people doing the regulating would quite literally be the same people being regulated. You know that pouty orange man who claimed he would drain the DC swamp if elected? Yeah, that didn't happen.
@@seth5143 I was joking with my last sentence of not wanting to hear any argument against my views, as an example of the way people increasingly think these days, which is not conducive to actually learning.
Agreed that those human tendencies for confirmation bias and seeking to feel better from it have always existed, and conditions today increase it. But today AI has fine tuned which messages we should see that will maximize our pleasure and hearing confirmation of our opinions is emotional and we choose that. The leads to more engagement and exposure to view very targeted ads.
You are right, and I've wondered why intelligent people can believe nonsense, and indeed it is as you say comforting and based on emotion not logic, and maybe even guess that it's driven by fear. Fear of the unknown, fear of doubt.. Religious often ask, how did the universe being, and when answered with we don't know, they use it as proof of god, because not knowing is scary to those types.
when i was in highschool on 9/11 and they let us watch the news, some kid said "well i guess they're breaking in the new guy[G.bush]"
Laughter has always been the best medicine....& Louis is a practitioner savant
he is such a genious. i think its so tragic what happened to him, because 2 terrible human beings gave him consent.
Come on man, I like Louis too but even he admitted that he fucked up... the victims are not terrible
@@TheSovietSanta the victims? you mean the victims of their own consent? and i doubt he "admitted" this because he felt this way, but rather to save his career after being slaughtered for nothing.
@@Jerrywood111 Out of all the #MeToo casualties over the past 6 years or so, I'm pretty sure Louis is the only one to openly admit that he indeed did what people accused him of. That shows integrity, not a fear of losing one's career and taking whatever course available to try and save it.
@@tobeornottobe5611 ok we both dont know shit about anything but to me it seemed like it from what i heard about the case. he made some comments himself about how horrible the backlash from these accusations were, that didnt sound like he was very remorseful or thought he had done something wrong. he sounded to me like a guy who had his personal issues exploited for being a successfull man and thats how i see it too. i mean do you think these women would have agreed to anything if he was just some regular dude with his looks? and of course he admitted "what he did", because THEY GAVE HIM CONSENT
@@Jerrywood111 You seem to be one of those who believes that even though he was given consent, Louis still shouldn't have "preyed" upon these women from a position of authority/power. It doesn't matter how high his position was in the comedy world. These of age, adult, consenting women told Louis he could do what he was asking. That's all that matters.
I was taught that a way to test if a person is truly fully engaged in a conversation as much as you are, is to cross your arms. If they're into it, they will instinctually cross their arms as well.
Learn to laugh folks! Learn to laugh.
It does take time, and sometimes it is “too soon,” but in general, he’s right.
Two guys who had no idea what was about to hit them when me too ramped up.
This is true about health practitioners. EMS/Paramedics are some of the funniest people I have ever met, while working in some of the most depressing environments one can imagine.
Such a wise man
God Bless him and his little freckled schmeckle
This mans a national treasure. Fuckin love Louie
He lives in France now bc we “cancelled” him so he’s their national treasure now, I guess :(
The phrase "Laughter is the best medicine" has been around forever.
Did you know Louis CK was the first person to say laughter is the best medicine
so great, so true
Right on.
I was literally just thinking this yesterday about Mel Brooks. Of course he joked about the Holocaust. If you think about it, it's the only way he could talk about it without it being too awful to bear, and it was too pervasive in the collective consciousness of his time to not talk about. It's like, you can't tell jokes at all if you don't address the Holocaust, but at the same time you can't address the Holocaust without joking. So he made it the subject of humor. It's how he (and his fans) dealt with the problem.
"The cure for getting over a terrible situation is laughter".
because thats how we defend ourselves as human beings.
brilliant
My god what cameras are they using they look incredible
agreed
+Phillip Morrison Is this sarcasm or something?
The video looks ok, so the camera doesn't look that great. I've seen better camera work from amateur youtubers using cameras like the GH4 or Sony mirrorless cameras
+Phillip Morrison thought the same thing. I'm watching this on 360p and it looks crisp clear (w/o fullscreen of course).
+Phillip Morrison Louis looks like he's turning into George Carlin in some parts of this interview.
@@alecbernal3824 well yeah. George is literally who got him into comedy.
He chased george his whole life. From his child hood until now.
He was asked to speak at his funeral/celebration of life by his daughter. He barely handled it. Literally had to run off stage
Humor is an evolutionary coping mechanism, it's intention isn't always meant to be purely malevolent
Who would’ve thought I would have a stand up comedian as a figure I look up to
A shit load of people.
Whats not to look up to?
I agree. But there is a fine line between joking and bullying. I think louis does his job great,funny without the bully.And yes,you can joke about everything.I am norwegian,and our humor is very dark and on the edge,i think that is good...but,you have to have some level of social intelligence to know when you can drop a dark joke or story,and in what sort of setting.
That's what makes a great comedian, they walk right up to the line and dance there without crossing it
I don't think it's a fine line. Everyone can tell the difference. Bullying happens when you make fun of someone who is vulnerable. To belittle others is never really funny, and not really comedy. I wouldn't say that Louis is alone in this. I've never seen any standup comic try to make humor by bullying someone.
@@ShootMeMovieReviews they'll do it if they get heckled.
@@ShootMeMovieReviews That's absolutely ignorant and dumb, you don't watch any standup comedy if you're really going to try to act like thats true
@@hypno5690 Oh yeah? lol Talk about pointless hostility. Get a grip.
my left ear enjoyed this
It's never too terrible to joke about or the wrong time to pull it out. Louis CK definitely had a few principles he lived by.
When Lucifer and Hades have a chat:
"If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane."
- Robert Frost
It's true. Sometimes the thing haunting me the most is what my friends will jab me with, but done in a funny way it allows me to laugh about it for a minute. Not everyone feels that way though, and the key is it has to be funny. Otherwise it's just mean.
Come back Louis!
The people that are offended by this probably need to follow his advice the most.
He looks like Buck Angel.
This is why audio engineers are important
I love Louis
My right year is sad.
Lol, why did i put that "y" there? Haha
+tiago tabosa haha that y rofl
Now, if you want to pan it to the left like about 80%, and then pan it to the right another 80%, go for it. Fuck the rules. Live a little, that's what I always say.
Freedom for comedians - yes; but sometimes I think they (like reporters) just don't give a crap about anything.
Remember that reporter who went through the luggage of flight crash victims?
Hard to express to people who haven't been through shit, lol.
wanted to hear this, but left due to terrible audio
Fuck off its fine.
+Harold BeaumontFinns It isn't :3
+Manuel João Cruz sounds perfect to me..
+Manuel João Cruz
Should have been mixed to mono but otherwise it's fine.
+Manuel João Cruz So really no one got the pun in your comment? Idiots throughout the internet. And you thought people who watch Louie's videos get humour. :D
Love comedians. I'd love to see comedians of all races/genders sit around a table and just make fun of themselves and each other. They'd be able to walk away and say they had a great time without anyone getting offended. They get it, life doesn't have to be that serious!
Then you'll enjoy exactly this: It's Louis, Ricky, Jerry and Rock discussing the biz: czcams.com/video/OKY6BGcx37k/video.html
"oh he's talking to that horrible Charlie Rose"
That is not entirely true. If your friend loses a child, you don't go immediately in and crack some dank jokes
+amputech Um that is exactly what he said. Did you not hear the part about "If its funny i'm going to do it"..
+amputech Turn off your monitor
He just means people shouldn't take things so seriously.
Maybe not but I cracked a few when my old man died. They were hilarious tho.
+amputech Youre just not funny or empathetic enough to time or think of a joke that would be funny in that context. You wait till theres nothing else that can be said and silence hangs, then you say, think about all the college money youre saving. lol
Laughter is a release of tension so what gives us the most tension is the most funny.....Psychology 101...
smart stuff
Should have just done the audio in mono
if something terrible is close to you or your family, its impossible to laugh at it, because its not funny, its only funny to the outsiders. if I have some distance from a joke about a terrible thing then its easy for me to laugh at the joke.
Louis class will be memorialized as one of the greatest
idk if class is the right word in my
opinion…… as the s*xual misconduct done on women by him certainly isn’t going to be memorialized in that way. 🚫 nothing at all classy about that... certainly wouldn’t call him by that title 🤔
one can have good insight / jokes / thoughts and still not be of class, and it goes to show he is a prime example of such.
@@ti3804 true but that doesn’t detract from the way he’s able to articulate his thoughts
If something is too difficult for you to get through, joking about it can trivialise it in your mind and help you get through it easier
Two men that got Karen'd. Legendary, kids. Watch and learn.
Comedy and tragedy are two halves of the same coin
It’s one thing to joke about bad things. It’s another thing to be the one doing the bad things.
If it's too awful, you better start joking about it, and fast
Sound mixing at its best
Unbelievable genius psychology
My right ear felt lonely
Why panning?
what he said was so fucking awesome
Reminds me of how we make jokes about having to use face masks and hand sanitizer.
Yep,
Will it get boring to joke about one own terrible stuff?
Bars
such a brilliant mind in comedy lost - destroyed by a hashtag
This audio is creepy lol and the fact that you can hear the sirens in the back ground
What makes the best ground beef?
Kobe
It really does, I like medium but not when people overcook it like they poured helicopter fuel on it.
There’s a difference between just joking about something sensitive and being comedic through an understanding of the the issue
The whole it’s just a joke thing doesn’t cover tasteless stuff
If it is funny, despite being tasteless, then that covers it.
if a joke is funny, it’s funny. if it’s not, it’s not. the subject of the joke is trivial, if it works.
i understand why they don't release full interviews but can you put some of the old azz ones on youtube? come on charlie rose, get on the goddamn ball
bumrusherer1985 thanks dude, i've been waiting for them to archive the show for a long time...wouldn't have known otherwise
+bumrusherer1985 Whoa, just looked and this is awesome. And that new player with the searchable transcripts is incredible. Thank you for the heads up!!
Fucking make sense!!