The 2nd Punic War in 3 Battles: Scipio Africanus and the Battle of Ilipa

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • IIipa, one of history's greatest battles, was a decisive turning point in the Hannibalic war. Africanus' Austerlitz, It was a masterpiece of manoeuvre and aggression. This video tells the story of the whole Spanish campaign during the Hannibalic war, including the founding of the Punic Spanish empire, the deaths of the Scipio brothers, the rise of Africanus, including the battles of New Carthage and Baecula, finally culminating in a thorough analysis of the battle of Ilipa. This is for history geeks only, as the content is long and the detail is deep! Enjoy.

Komentáře • 42

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 Před 2 lety +24

    I know these Punic videos didn't exactly explode but I'd always love to see more content from this time period.

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 Před 6 měsíci +2

      His discussion of Cannae really activated my historical imagination over the terror, chaos, panic, misery, backbiting and crushing doom that the trapped Roman infantry must have felt as their formations and eventually their bodies were relentlessly compressed.

  • @nilo9456
    @nilo9456 Před rokem +8

    Thank you very much for these Punic war videos. I learned a great deal. Must of the material l've read is focused on Hanible and his Italian campaign. Prior to these videos I was almost ignorant of the Roman - Carthaginian wars in what's now Spain.
    Something else is the maps, granted the uncertainty of what records remain, I learned a great deal. Thank you.

  • @Toastkoro
    @Toastkoro Před 3 lety +16

    This was an amazing narration. I've thoroughly enjoyed it and I'll definitely be checking your content. Keep up the good work, man.

    • @nicholasconder4703
      @nicholasconder4703 Před 3 lety +4

      His videos on the little-known battles in New Guinea during WW2 are great as well.

    • @OnyishiIkechukwu
      @OnyishiIkechukwu Před 4 měsíci

      What is the name of the novel because it must be written somewhere😊😊

  • @Freedom2111
    @Freedom2111 Před rokem +3

    Great video. I enjoyed the background details, which were left out of other videos on this battle.

  • @markrobson8747
    @markrobson8747 Před rokem +2

    As with your WWII narrations you have done supreme justice to our learning history and helped me to inspire our young spirited minds. Many thanks

  • @nicholasconder4703
    @nicholasconder4703 Před 3 lety +4

    32:45. The Iberian campaign during the 2nd Punic War is starting to sound a lot like the Peninsula campaign during the Napoleonic Wars, with the Romans under Scipio(s) playing the part of Wellington and his allied army against the Carthaginian (French) army. The fact that the Carthaginians had to worry about the Iberians (and the French the Spanish Army and Guerillas) seems to add to the air of deja vu. The parallels are quite interesting.

  • @jonathanbaron-crangle5093

    Yet another excellent work, long, but well worth watching. You go into some fair depth, as you've done with the WW2 side of things in the Pacific. Looking forward to watching more.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 Před 3 lety +8

    Really well told. Good job.

  • @frenstcht
    @frenstcht Před 3 lety +6

    The problem with calling Scipio Africanus the Roman Hannibal is that Hannibal got his allies by taking hostages while Scipio freed them instead.

  • @Ratkill
    @Ratkill Před 9 měsíci +1

    This channel is PEERLESS in its history presentation.
    I'm SO TIRED of wikipedia-grade "history" channels, that basically repeat whatever you can find with basic bltch research. Somehow HHH CONSISTANTLY works in facts I've never come across while reading the basic staples of Roman or WW2 history. Its fantastic to hear new information I have not yet come across in my years as a casual history guy. Top notch stuff, cant say enough good things about this channel.
    I also appreciate that this deep academic-level understanding is also presented in a way that's coherent and easy to digest. Usually if you want to get into the weeds on a topic, you have to sit through some rather boring lectures.

  • @daniellivingston7699
    @daniellivingston7699 Před rokem +2

    I’d love to see more narrations from this time period.

  • @Redhand1949
    @Redhand1949 Před 3 lety +4

    Damn good scholarship and narration. Wonderful listening. Thanks!! And please keep it up!

  • @antoniolabudovic128
    @antoniolabudovic128 Před měsícem

    Incredible content! Wish this was more popular!

  • @shinemendwoor
    @shinemendwoor Před 6 měsíci +1

    OVERSIMPLIFIED BROUGHT ME HERE TO FINISH THE STORY, SO I DONT HAVE TO WAIT

  • @saadiali1552
    @saadiali1552 Před 2 lety +1

    Extremely engaging with interesting narrative along with helpful media. Thanks mate.

  • @onetrueevan6992
    @onetrueevan6992 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Excellent video, superb narration.
    A minor correction is that to my knowledge the word "Iberians" didn't exactly mean "river dwellers" but it derives from the ancient Greek word for the river Ebro. This of course is inconsequential for such an informative and well presented video.

  • @seanmac1793
    @seanmac1793 Před 2 měsíci

    Love the video, very well researched.

  • @anthonykelly5352
    @anthonykelly5352 Před 3 lety +2

    Another excellent presentation, job well done

  • @EvilTwinn
    @EvilTwinn Před 3 lety +1

    Top tier content. Good analysis and fully laying out your argument.
    When's Zama?

  • @Avenger-K
    @Avenger-K Před 3 lety +1

    Love this series.

  • @mtate02
    @mtate02 Před 3 lety +3

    F*cking awesome coverage.

  • @ScipioAfricanus_Chris
    @ScipioAfricanus_Chris Před 6 měsíci +1

    Which modern historian was scathing in their critique of Scipio at Ilipa?

  • @NiallLynch
    @NiallLynch Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome telling dude, reminiscent of a Dan Carlin episode.

  • @comradekenobi6908
    @comradekenobi6908 Před 3 lety +1

    Wonder why not more people know About this channel

  • @roflcopter804
    @roflcopter804 Před rokem +1

    Please make a part 3 for Zama

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna Před 3 měsíci

    regarding the paralysis of the Punic africanas during the last maneuver. no doubt if youre in the middle of a formation, youre going to be on the crest of a hill which likely slopes in both directions if youre at the highest point. with such large formations, each line would be very long and drip down the hill in both the left and right side. that is a rare condition in ancient warfare where the left third of a formation would not be able to see the right third, and the maneuvers going on in front of them.
    typically if one wing of an attack begins flanking your side, the correct thing to do is to stand in place while you receive support from the other side. if this battle was scaled down by 50%, i doubt the roman maneuver would have been possible. i mean, if you have the high ground, and the enemy starts to make what looks like a serious mistake, you dont want to interrupt him. the coordination of both wings of romans had to be perfect. if either wing hesitated, both would be defeated.
    the romans had to fool an entire army at the same time while apparently walking into certain defeat inorder for this to work. crazy. I would think the hunger aspect of this would not have been much of a physical benefit as much as a mental one.
    usually each defending formation knows that if there is confusion/lack of communication, they should at the very least mirror their opponent by picking a specific unique enemy group and matching their movements. the fact that you had a scrambling of the roman formations made this impossible.

  • @paulwallis7586
    @paulwallis7586 Před 3 lety +2

    Criticism doesn't work. First, the Punics would have to see and understand the maneuver, then respond, and they'd have had about 10 minutes to do it. Alexander might well have made a charge on the gap, but he used elite cavalry and timing at a crucial point, and with the initiative, not as a purely reactive move.

  • @omzuploads2857
    @omzuploads2857 Před rokem

    Please make part 3

  • @greenshirtiv4n211
    @greenshirtiv4n211 Před rokem +1

    In 3 battles but only 2 videos uploaded?

  • @nicholasconder4703
    @nicholasconder4703 Před 3 lety

    1:31:30 The other factor that is not taken into account is the position of the sun. If the Roman army was facing north (as some maps of the battle seem to indicate), the Carthaginians would be looking south into the noonday sun, which might have partially blinded the Carthaginian general and his commanders to what was going on. However, based on the map you have in this presentation, this was not the case. Still, given the fact they were rousted out of bed, it is probable that many Carthaginians hadn't refilled their canteens, so they would have been both hungry and thirsty in the hot Spanish sun.

    • @hypohystericalhistory8133
      @hypohystericalhistory8133  Před 2 lety

      It’s hard to say exactly what way the two armies faced without knowing the location of the two camps. But at noon in summer at this latitude you wouldn’t expect direct sunlight have any realistic impact on Hasdrubals ability to see. Polybius doesn’t mention this as playing a major impact in the battle. Water would definitely have been an issue, although you would think they’d have a greater ability to issue water to the men once they were deployed.

  • @digitalcommunist6335
    @digitalcommunist6335 Před rokem

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  • @JavierBonillaC
    @JavierBonillaC Před rokem +1

    Spain had a lot of gold that it was getting from the Aztecs in Mexico and this it was very attractive for the Roman Empire to conquer Spain.
    Just kidding historians, just kidding…..

  • @Muddybagclean
    @Muddybagclean Před 9 měsíci

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  • @patricksullivan3919
    @patricksullivan3919 Před 9 měsíci

    Cmon man!!

  • @patricksullivan3919
    @patricksullivan3919 Před 9 měsíci

    Anthony blinken in a pinch!!!

  • @patricksullivan3919
    @patricksullivan3919 Před 9 měsíci

    Jake Sullivan probably

  • @patricksullivan3919
    @patricksullivan3919 Před 9 měsíci

    Lay down Joe. Let me get at those diaper pins. Oh yeah, these days they have pampers.