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- A warm-hearted documentary that follows the lives of scooter users in South Yorkshire, Derbyshire and North Wales. We meet those living their twilight years to the full and also hear the stories of those who have fallen foul of mobility scooters.
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That elderly woman who puts the blame on a child who was struck illustrates the pure ignorance and sense of entitlement some people have. She may think she’s smart but she’s actually the complete opposite. I wonder is she would have the same opinion if her grandchild was run down by someone just as ignorant as she is.
Yeah that was crazy! I had a kid run into the back of my powerchair once, now that really was the kids or rather parents fault, I were just going along walling my dogs & their was a thud at the back of the chair (I were going forwards so did not reverse into the kid) I stopped & looked & theirs a little kid with a bike. Thankfully he was fine, the mother came running & apologised, apparently he kept forgetting about the brakes! I figured he was too busy admiring my wheels to remember to brake lol when theirs kids about you need to be extra careful whether you're using a powerchair, mobility scooter, skateborad, bicycle etc you have to remember that kids are unpredictable & be ready to react. Worst I have had is a kid grab the joystick on my powerchair & reverse it into a post before I hit the off button. The parents grabbed their kid & scarpered quick! I now try to keep my hand cupped over the controls if I am stopped somewhere as theirs kids about but as I have my other arm in a sling long term that is not always possible, if I need to use a hand then I can't cover the controls & thats one of the reasons I have insurance so if a kid messes with the controls & hurts himself or someone else or damages the chair at least I don't have to worry about being sued
I completely agree, she's never had a driver's license.
Some of the older generations rude , entitled ignorant
She was going to blame the child, regardless.
@@emmarichardson5357 you ARE a conscientious user and I applaud you! ❤
I take issue with the campaigner who says pedestrians shouldn't have to look out. ALL street users have a responsibility to look where they are going. People looking at their mobile phone rather than where they are going have become an absolute menace to other street users.
It's absurd. I'm not one to scream bigotry, but the idea that able bodied people shouldn't have to look around for disabled people because there's more of them than us is ridiculous.
you just have to look at the news stories of people walking into traffic and getting hit by cars, that prove even people walking have to use their eyes. The person complaining that the scooter rider drove up a one way street the wrong way on the pavement needs to understand that only the Road is one way the pavement is for foot traffic and goes both ways and scooters are allowed on the pavement. I use a scooter and i have been rear ended side swiped etc whilst in the supermarket by people and trolleys as they are not looking where they are going. I have been parked on the side of the road getting money out of a cash point and had kids run into me. I also have had been pushed onto roads due to people parking blocking the dropped curbs so they can run into shops. There are lots of Issues with scooters that need to be addressed Pedestrians, Car Drivers, and Scooter users all need to be educated in how to use the roads and pavements safely
Note how Hazel? is driving hers AT walking pace at the end, exactly what they're meant to be.
Should be made only to go at walking speed.
@@denycetaylor8215 most do 4 to 6mph walking speed is about 4.7mph to 6mph there are 8mph scooters but these need a test and to be on the dvla data base
Then some 'fiddle' with them or maybe just in Essex.
@@denycetaylor8215 no a scooter should have the option to go faster, because if someone is bothering the disabled person, they have the right to be able to ''run'' away, but the faster scooters should be the ones required to take a test, and make sure they are competent and aware enough to use it.
@@Shannonbarnesdr1 I have a scooter that does 4/8/16mph. I only use 16mph on the road and I have a full licence so that's not a problem even if you needed one
I’m a 42yo disabled Marine Corps veteran with idiopathic urticaria. As I write this, my Gio Golf enclosed mobility scooter is on its way to my home.
I will have ceramic window tint put on it and I’ll do my best to set the standard for how a mobility scooter should be operated.
Thank you for this video. Education is power and I hope that there are fewer (eventually zero) injuries to people and animals. 🙏
PS. Hazel reminds me of my late grandma. You can see the sincerity in her eyes and hear the empathy in her voice 😇
Semper Fi Thanks for your service 🙏
I ride a scooter and I believe there should be a national test. I've noticed on this video the appalling way the scooters are used. Perfectly sensible to have some sort of regulations in place including tax and insurance.
if you go 5.5mph or over, you should be on the road, meaning you need tax and insurance, I have it, I've no idea why so many don't have insurance at least.
I think insurance is a good idea to have for these mobility aids. & not just for others damaging it but, also should it be stolen or damaged by SCUM ( thieves) aswell. Tax is not here nor there in my opinion but, that would depend on thge STUPID so called government to decide on. But, many dom drive these things at full speed even on the pavement ( of which is STUPID & DANGEROUS!!!) I do agree & need a right good education on speed limits for certain areas Even inside large department stores i have seen some driving around without a care or respect for others & i am going about my own business & as slow & carefull as i can watching out for walkers of various ages. & even i get some dirty looks. Because i use a mobility scooter & because of those whomare simply SELFISH!!!! I get that look sometimes!!!! I maybe one of the few that tries to be as careful as possible around others & i get thanked by the majority. & i find that's nice. But, those who simply think they have the right of way all the time & everytime then these are the ones with bad attitudes & need to be dealt with. Like motorist if they hurt someone then depending on the circumstances they should also be fined & pay a large compensation to the injured person. What i am saying if someone has one the drive them SAFELY, & SENSIBLY!!! NOT!!!! like they are the one's that others should be given priorty Share & share alike SAFELY!!!! & try to respect others When there is no need to speed then simply DON'T!!!! & 1 other major thing DO NOT I MEAN DO NOT!!!! use travelators to get your mobility scooter up & down floors in superstores Itvis HIGHLY DANGEROUS aswell as COMPLETELY STUPID!!!! If it gives way & you go through it you are not liable for a insurance poayout Because the travelators are not allowed to have them on it at any time. NEVER!!!! I see it quite regular at my superstore & the staff have still done SWEET F.A about it. So, i am going to get in toch with head office with video footage & inform them as to which store it is & hopefully things will get done. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 ( i am rather sceptical of it though) 🤞
@@gareth14111984 Same should apply to bicycles then?
@@whitesapphire5865ABSOLUTELY!! You'll get no argument over registration for cyclists from me..
Aside from at what age do they need to register? As a lot of young kids ride like complete idiots...
Also, where would they hang their registrations? The slim, aerodynamic bikes we see these days cannot have additional stuff added due to wind resistance, and you cannot put it over the wheel like the old timey motorbikes, as that was removed for safety purposes...
What about the whole personal liability insurance? Surely adding cost would mean people would stop cycling legally, perhaps all together? Putting more people back in cars, on public transport, meaning more busses needed, more traffic...
Ok, I don't have arguments, but I do have questions..
Also, as a side note my mobility need, unlike cycling, is NOT A CHOICE
Got to love that dog peeing on that lady at the beach!! She had no clue!!😂😂😂😂
its nice to see that even though we all get older these people are still willing to learn manouvers to stay safe
Some Majority Don't
I have two 8 mph road going scooters, prior to getting them I had 50 years road experience and held full car and motorcycle licences for that time. I was amazed when I got them that some people had no road experience whatsoever, not even sight tests and boy does the difference show. Incorrectly it is stated that anyone can buy one, in fact by law you can't, you need to prove mobility or disability but anyone can pick up one second hand, like blue badges they are abused. 8 mph ones (road going) invariably do this speed on pavements where there is a 4 mph limit. Road going (8 mph) are required to be registered with the DVLA a log book and licence number are issued, but you are not required to display the registration? if not registered it is illegal to be on a public road. Insurance is not compulsory, up to the individual. Having said all of this there is one massive problem, there is no enforcement of any of the laws by anyone. Scooter riders have their gripes too, cars blocking pavements forcing them onto roads, kerbs, no pavements in some places etc etc. This video has been re-issued as I have seen it before but most of these problems can be easily fixed. 1/. A check that riders are actually allowed to own one 2/. If no full driving licence then a basic test with a pass certificate 3/. Licence plate displayed if road going (for identification in accidents) 4/. Compulsory insurance if road going, but above all someone (I suppose poor old Police?) to enforce the laws currently being totally ignored.
Thank you for a fair overall appraisal of the situation. I had also driven for many years and have used a 4mph scooter for about 20 years. I've not yet used a 8mph one and hope to be well enough to use one someday (currently housebound and mobility aids can't change that). Thank you for saying about gripes from scooter drivers. I've been in my local town when building upgrades were taking place and I HAD to go on to the roadway...met with tooting horns, etc, though I tried to do my best within understanding what traffic need (as a fellow driver). Also there's a huge lack of dropped pavements, and some that are dropped are not fit for purpose. One where I live is so badly constructed I actually tipped over. Really kind people immediately helped, even a van next to me stopping on the road to help. Man, I was SO embarrassed but appreciative that people wanted to help. Where I live someone was killed crossing the road with dropped curbs but the crossing provides hardly provides any visibility when you're sat low in a wheelchair or scooter. I've been pushing for years to get basic road markings changed but it will cost £4,000 to do it.
No one’s happy to see them…….until they NEED one!!
Know one actually Needs one !!
I have every sympathy with people who actually need one .unfortunately there are many people who are just overweight using them that don't really need them .
Good on you they are way too fast , walking speed is enough, and they also speed up and down in shops!!
@@Michelle-wk4ek I’m 1.78m and 82kg. I have Chorea-acanthocytosis. I need a mobility scooter. Stop gaslighting and generalising the Disabled. Ignorance and Ableism are not admirable qualities in a person, because you might wake up one day and need one.☯️
@@Michelle-wk4ek Wait until it's your turn. You'll soon change your tune, or, given your illiterate typing, perhaps that should be "chune"??
No one, is to know one, but no one knows the difference! - Got it?
My old Aunt was barred from a local supermarket, due to her destroying 3 corner displays with her mobility scooter. Twice my father and I, had to attend a local police station too pick up her scooter, due to her crashing into something and receiving minor injuries. She drove it at full speed where ever she went. My father repeatedly showed her how to use the tortoise or hare setting.
permanently "adjust" the settings
@@donwest5387 Cyanide?
Am so sorry, but that is hilarious! Would make a great movie with Maggie Smith & Shirley MacLaine! 🤣
Use the tortoise setting :) you tortoise us something xd
I'm polite to pedestrians so much so that I drive myself crazy trying to be nice. I'm glad I watched this video. I learned some stuff.
I get what Emily has to deal with in a way, I have fibromyalgia and it's not getting any better, I too look at people older than me who are physically fit and can go about their everyday life on 2 legs. There are quite a few scooters where I live and I have adamantly said that I will not have one but I can see myself having too in the near future. I agree that scooter users should have a license and be fully trained to use one.
hugs
If a scooter user is a qualified driver under 70 they do have a License that covers them . Or a maintained license over 70yrs. The problem is training to use the vehicle they have acquired. I too aprove of this.
@@bringmeblueskies I took the bloody training course.
If people need to use scooters to get round and be independent, so be it. Imagine not being able to walk to the shop to grab something. It’s a nightmare.
Maybe a bit of law and order is all that’s needed. If anything is needed at all.
This series is fantastic. Thanks for putting it on.
As someone that has been disabled for the last 10 years, went from crutches to scooters and power chair the amount of people that don't look were they are going and have the head buried in there phone is crazy . I have never ran into anyone but i get run into just about every time i go shopping. It seems just because you are disabled you are also invisible. The bigger scooters are useless in stores but great for getting around. Have had a lot of people run into me when i was stopped and then get abused for running into them if only they would open there eyes . There are prats on both sides of the argument but the biggest slice of the blame belongs to the able bodied kids above 6 included
@pete ryan
You're attitude is disgraceful, it's not everyone's duty to get out of YOUR way and not everyone with a disability has a scooter many are pedestrians. I don't believe that you are completely stationary when all of these people run into you.
I'm a cyclist, not a very fast one but it's still my duty to watch out for animals and humans as I am on something that could injure or even kill. At no point would I be thinking "Tough if I hit someone they need to be looking out for me"
Obnoxious individual.
@@muddydog6605 You'd be amazed what people do! Both my grandparents use scooters (one on pavements and one on roads) and they have countless stories like this. My grandma even told me about one person who nearly ended up on her lap, because they weren't looking where they were going (she had come to a complete standstill, as there wasn't room to manoeuvre around them).
With your point about cyclists, it's the cyclist who can move out of the way easiest in that scenario. Whereas mobility scooters (as well as wheelchairs, buggies, etc) can be difficult to manoeuvre, so pedestrians should generally be the ones to move. It's a two way street: scooter users shouldn't be running pedestrians over, but neither should pedestrians be making themselves into obstacles unnecessarily, especially if able-bodied.
I am looking at this as both a driver and a mobility scooter user. I am shocked there is no sight qualification to driving a mobility scooter. When I got my mobility scooter new I was shown how to operate it , try it out, reverse, etc no problems. As a driver I didn't expect any. BUT and it is a big but, as soon as you go out into town it becomes a problem. Mine is a pavement/arcade scooter not made for the road but I have been told I have no right on the pavement. I have been tutted at and sneered at. I have never had an accident either as a driver or on my mobility scooter. I am disabled when I am not on my scooter my husband who is a retired nurse with bad sciatica must push me in a wheelchair to his own pain and harm. People are easy to cuss disability users liable for all accidents but I have had several people step in front of me out of shops or engrossed in mobile conversations. They didn't see me but I was aware of them, just. I go very slowly in case. Some people hate that too. Be assured there are two sides to every pointed finger and writers of petitions should take s mobility scooter out every day for a week before being so self righteous about where blame lies.
I had a sight test for mine!
These are all wonderful people with some health problems. I don;t know what the answer is but I was struck by how sweet and kind everyone is. Be kind everyone, everyone has a burden they are dealing with and deserve our compassion.
except that one lady
I love Hazel, she's a lovely old dear. Best wishes darling.
That was a wonderful video!! Thanks for sharing!!!
14:35 crashing because you saw a bishop is quality
It's a tough call. I've had back trouble for about 20 years and can't go long distance or stand a lot, but I'm far from using a scooter. When the time comes, I'll be like Peter and weigh all the options I guess.
Having wheels brings independence its just a matter of being sensible. My powwrchair has max speed of 6.5mph but I mever go that speed on paths. Take it slow to start with, if you can get some lessons do so but their seems to be few places that offer lessons otherwise try to avoid crowded places to start with until you have got used to it. I've used a powerchair for 16 years & confidently use it even on ice now, I drive sensibly on ice until I am in a big wide open area where I can see others coming from a long way off then I prat about doing donuts & skidding it around lol full speed is only for on the road, I use paths when I can but around where I live the paths are too narrow so I have to use the road but I listen out for cars coming up behind me & now stealth cars (electric cars) are about I turn to look as I approach each dropped kerb so if theirs a car coming up behind me I can pull onto the dropped kerb to let them past. It is a pain sometimes doing that but considering my max speed is 6.5mph I figure its best to let vehicles past when I can
Every single one of us will end up using a scooter if we need too. Mobility and independence is so important for overall well-being.
People need to get about. It’s as simple as that. Not everyone is blessed with health or youth.
They should be registered. Have number plates. At least if they hit and run a small child, they can be charged if seen. Without a number, who's going to catch them?
Absolutely.
Oh just like cyclists
I think Insurance should be compulsory for everyone owning a mobility scooter. Hubby and I only use our scooters on a few occasions each year, which involves walking for a few hours, but we still take out insurance each year in case of an accident. Even more pleased that we do, after seeing what some of the claims have been. I'm in total agreement with Peter, who had the perfect sense for mobility scooter drivers. Give way to walking pedestrians! Not give way to mobility scooters.
Registered class 3 scooters can display a number plate. My husband had one for his scooter.
@@ginaearl6592 they are easily identifiable because of the CCTV footage and if you would harm someone the scooter would be damaged. They have all of these issues with Motability.
11 years ago I was hit by one that broke my ankle ,the "lady" had two dogs trotting on leads utilising the entire pavement and ran into me from behind , turns out I wasn't the first victim and a year later she was in the paper(NWN) as she wasn't even disabled in any way ,she just started using it when a disabled relative died .
These things need some sort of licencing !
It's illegal to walk dogs with it
Bunch of chancers giving the rest of us a bad name 🙄
@@wsmfilmdocandeventsweston-4230 lmfao no it isn't
@@mydogeatspuke the chancers are people who claim you ran into them
@mydogeatspuke no what isn't......walking dogs with mobility scooters? Yes it is here in the uk
Thank you so much for your video.
I found it very weird compering to other countries. I frequently visit Poland (one of the major cities), Czech Republic, and Sweden, and never I have seen soooo many mobility scooter users as in the UK. To be honest, I have not seen any at all in the Czech Republic. Few in Poland, and I mean 3, maybe 4. People there use wheelchairs, crutches, and walking sticks. Elderly, clearly fragile or disabled people are still keeping rather active and independent without the need for scooters. Even my teenage daughter noticed that: "Mum, there's no obese people here and no scooters."
Yes, I do understand the need for support, but sometimes less is more.
A lot of this is to do with mobility benefit claims
boomer are a worthless entitled horrible generation that is why. always thinking they are above everyone no matter how decrepit they become
Min pappa är dansk, och jag har vänner på många ställen i Sverige och Danmark som använder skotrar. Några av dem har dystoni.
Jag känner till två tjecker som bor i Prag som har mitt handikapp och de använder även skotrar.
När du generaliserar och hävdar sådana uttalanden främjar du diskriminering av dem som vill göra allt som du tycker om men våra funktionshindrade placeras ofta i avlägsna samhällen istället för på platser där de är synliga, som Köpenhamn, Prag eller Stockholm. (Jag gillar inte Polen, så jag kan varken bekräfta eller dementera vad du har påstått.)
Storbritannien faller långt ner när det gäller förmåner jämfört med Skandinavien och Tjeckien, så funktionshindrade ges mycket mindre än någon av de skandinaviska länderna. Om du inte kan visa mig denna statistik skulle jag föreslå ett förtydligande av din viktade deklaration.
What is really needed is a mobility scooter or electric wheelchair with a custom trailer which allows a disabled person to store/unpack/setup/repack a market trading stall with a craft and secure cash box without needing any assistance to trade. It would bridge the gap for the disabled to be able to work independently at local markets and drive home themselves after packing up.
They’re everywhere at Disney World, i almost got ran over by a lady on one there. I understand they need them, but i wish they would be more careful, esp at the grocery store, some people on them act like the people walking need to watch out for them, & it’s exactly the opposite.
Its a bit of both really. I've seen some really dangerous scooter & powerchair users that expect people to dive out of their way but as a careful powerchair user I've had people almost walk into me as they are too busy staring at their phone to look where they are going & the worst at supermarkets is people stood looking at a shelf then stepping back without looking, I have had to have lighning fast reflexes to stop in time to avoid hitting people doing that too many times to count, I go to the far side of the aisle if I can but depends if thiers other people, trolleys etc & also depends on how wide the aisle is as to whether that means I am safe from those that seem to be trying to get run over
Maybe Desantis can have them declared "too woke" & will ban them at Disney world.........problem solved! 🤷♀️
If I could afford one, I'd buy one. For now, I have to be happy using the ones stores have. Otherwise, I can't walk very far.
Same
Be cautious of them they can be dangerous I came my closest to having an accident on a hired one in the Trafford Centre I had stopped to eat and switched the key off and removed it when my husband got me back to it I checked it turned it on and though it was on tortoise it raced into a pillar. I missed it. Took it back and complained to be told 'it does that sometimes it might be too heavy for you' ! If it were you would have a damaged scooter.
My 92-year-old friend got rolled-over by a scooter on the pavement from her behind on! Broke her arm,was ill for a long time and someone told her,that the lady,who did this,threw a bunch of people on the ground.She wasn't educated by anyone,not even by the guy who sold it!
My mum had a mobility scooter and it was her life line before she had alzheimer's and sadly passed away last year. She was fantasic at driving her. All though when we went out with her for a walk she would stick the speed on "Hare "and wizz off 😂
Ikr?! Was a CNA for 20 yrs & them ole folks are regular hot rodders! 🤣😂
In fact, I can't tell u how many times I ran over myself when fetching it for my patients! 😆
That old white entitled lady saying her kid should have gotten out of the way of the scooter, it's attitudes like this that most of them have. They think bc their old and on a scooter everyone else needs to be on the look out🙄
Yep… The place I live in has a large senior population. Once, when my son was small, and we were walking on the pavement, WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE, one of those things came barrelling along at full speed, and nearly hit my son (had I not acted on instinct and picked him up, she would have done so). I unloaded, and when I'm angry, my language tends to be …colourful. This elderly “Karen”, refusing to acknowledge she was in the wrong, instead chose to chastise me for my use of profanity, calling me “disrespectful.” She then made a comment about having survived some historical event, which apparently entitled her to anything and everything. To which I replied, “Madame, that is unfortunate.”
To be very clear, I think scooters are a wonderful thing for those who are GENUINELY mobility-impaired, but learning to operate them needs to be mandatory for everyone who buys them. Also, legislation needs to change, and nobody should be permitted to have a scooter UNLESS they can demonstrate that they are, in fact, incapable of walking normally.
As an old lady FWIW I absolutely agree with you and Ms. Reid above. I am horrified by these seniors who demand “respect” while disrespecting everyone else. No, age does not “entitle” you to jack. Despicable attitudes and behavior.
She doesn't know right of way should be given to the pedestrian without exception and legally mobillity scooter can travel a maximum of 4mph on footpaths or in pedestrian areas. lady with the neck collar should Know this?
Not every old white lady has that attitude. She was probably like that throughout her life.
@@ginaearl6592 Clearly, and I wasn't suggesting that to be the case. Just as is the case with any given demographic, seniors are comprised of all kinds of people.
And yes, agreed, most people who are self-entitled arsehats have been that way from the get-go.
I need something to help me get about as I an only walk short distances however I live quite away out in the country and I ca nt lift one out of the car so I'm stuck at home. i use a wheelchair pushed by my hubby at the weekends. So quite jealous of the people with the mobility scooters tbh. I do agree with the lady who is campaigning for more training.
Hazel is a lovely lady. Bless her. xx
I don't understand the one who hit the Morrisons shop assistant. She says she was hit from behind which pushed her into something else and that something else hit the shop assistant. So why is *she* being sued? Who or what hit her from behind? Surely *they* are to blame?
Unless that wasn't true, and there was *no* hit from behind.
Either way it's crazy not to be insured.
I can imagine scenarios like her getting hit and in turn she pulls the throttle wide open...
Ugh that lady with the neck collar saying the other lady’s son should not be in the way of the scooter!!! He was on the sidewalk!!
She's like the female version of Mr. Burns from the Simpson's.
@Bettina
Worse, she likely went home, and bemoaned at her son about that "bloody foreigner ..." ...
Wouldn't surprise me if she was/is a UKIP voter, with her attitude ...
She doesn't know right of way should be given to the pedestrian without exception and legally mobillity scooter can travel a maximum of 4mph on footpaths or in pedestrian areas. lady with the neck collar should Know this?
They should definitely need to have insurance and road tax. Like everything some people use them properly, but some people do abuse them. I think their needs to be more regulations.
Nailed it. Same with cyclists. Same sense of entitlement and “the road/pavement is just for me”.
I'm very good at driving mine and don't ride on the road so there's no way I'm paying road tax thank you very much.
Absolutely… and why can’t they put a control on the speed of the scooter, a young, healthy person takes approximately 3 seconds to react… that lengthens with age, speed is one of the factors we can control
@@ellemmenn2930 Pavement only Scooters have a maximum speed of 4 mph. If it is designed for the road as well it has a separate speed setting with a maximum of 8 mph for road use.
@@ellemmenn2930 They do have speed controls. The 'pavement only' scooters are limited to 4mph and the 'road' scooters are limited to 8mph. Trouble is, people who use them think that because this is the limit, they can drive at that speed all the time.
I find this quite comical i can't believe they made a documentary about granny bashers going rogue on mobility scooters what world is this 😂😂😂
The world of the entitled, noxious and obnoxious Geezer. And I say this as a Geezerette. Their attitudes and behaviors are appalling.
Got a dumped one and had my kids racing circuits on the patio.
They are much heavier than you might think, the worm gear gives them a lot of torque. At 5mph can easily break ankle bones.
I’m smocked they allowed you to video TSA and the airport. But, very informative! I just made first trip where a scooter would have been helpful, but opted to pay for pusher (airport employee pushing their chair) because I had only the vaguest idea of what to expect. Thank you,
While shopping, in a mobility cart, I find that pedestrian shoppers tend to run and jump in front of me, so I have to stop short, all the time. I am not speeding, nor causing this issue, the shoppers don't know how to be courteous.
They forget you cannot simply step sideways! I find the worst thing is when they are stopped looking at the shelves, I try to pass by behind them giving as much room as I can but if theirs other people in the aisle I may not be able to get right to the other side of the aisle then they step back without looking! Lightning reflexes are needed when they do that
I walk while really needing the use of a walking stick. I do not know what goes on in other able bodied peoples head. When I come face to face along a footpath the other person just stops dead in front of me. I then have to change course and go around them! Even if they are several metres away, they will not change their course as they see me coming along.
Is there something about these people's mentality when they see someone coming along in a scooter. Do they try to play chicken???
@@Phelec59 Some of them are legally blind and some are just plain entitled bullies. They complain about others being “disrespectful” while driving a vehicle capable of seriously injuring or killing another living being while demonstrating a complete lack of regard for others.
@@Phelec59 some people are a nightmare for that. I have actually had stand offs with people before on paths too narrow for my powerchair & a pedestrian to pass each other. I'm getting closer to them & they are walking down the middle of the path, theirs nowhere for me to go, no dropped kerbs nearby so whilst they can easily step off the path to let me by I cannot that yet we end up with me stopped in powerchair & them stood on the path glaring at me lol most people would not do that, mostly I will pull into driveways to let people past or people will step off the path to allow me past, whichever of us moved out the way gets thanked by the other & we go on our way but everyone now & then you come across someone who thinks a powerchair (guessing they would think the same with a scooter) can just hop off the path & then back on when theirs no dropped kerb or magically shrink to allow them room to get past lol
@TundraWomanSays most of the scooter drivers are old. Their sense of judgement of speed and distance and consequences are blurred by age but also by the medications they could be on.
I feel the scooters need to have anti collision technology like modern cars now have. I added an anti collision device to my robot lawn mower. The technology is cheap and easily adapted to existing, let alone included in new models of scooters.
Loved Gordon, bless him.
"So your eyes were on the new bishop eyy?" Lol😅
I have a large mobility scooter. I don't go fast and use the lights and hazards if needed. The horn is not a gentle beep but loud as the scooter is able to go on the road as well as pavement
I have seen some on the road not allowing cars to pass, and being a nuisance, I can't understand why.
We should respect each other, I would not mind being tested to see if I am using it right.
I’ve had several scooters since being diagnosed with a spinal problem and osteoarthritis and I worry that those that buy scooters don’t seem to understand spacial awareness and how to navigate through crowds! I don’t understand the thinking of both riders and pedestrians, each thinks they have the right of way in all situations, if people drove in the same way, roads would be knee deep in blood and gore! Life is a case of give and take, scooter riders must be aware that young people use mobile phones all the time so must take this into consideration and think for them and keep out of their way not just blindly drive into them. We must look around all the time and watch what people are doing and think for them and in doing so avoid hitting them! I use he same skills I use to drive when riding my scooter, I use my eyes and am looking all round all the time. There should be a compulsory test and insurance, taken and set up before being allowed on the pavement or road, life is for all, both pedestrians and scooter users, just think a bit and watch where you are going and don’t think you are entitled to a right of way. Think about a Mr Ray!
Here lies the body of Jonathan Ray
Who died defending his right of way
His right was clear and his will was strong
But he’s just as dead as if he’d been wrong!
Think about what you are doing and give and take a bit, life becomes more enjoyable and people are friendlier!
cant wait for the hover-craft version 👍
The last quote I just love life I really do
I would use a wheelchair first. Use you arms and get a bit of exercise. Once you use electric power for mobility, your health will deteriorate much faster. My dad was fine until a chair lift was put in the house for mum. Dad started using it out of ease, and his health just declined rapidly
You need pretty good arm strength to use a manual wheelchair. At my best I could manage on flat ground in a manual wheelchair but any more than the slightest slope & my shoulders would be complaining. Dropped kerbs should be level with the road & if you don't need the use of them yourself you likely don't realise many are not good, I've come across a fair few that are half the height of a normal kerb, in a manual wheelchair you need to be able to do a wheelie to get up those. I haven't been able to use a manual wheelchair for 5 years now as thats how long my shoulder has been permanently partially dislocated. I hobble around in my home, sometimes have to use the chair in my home depending on how bad my legs are but my powerchair allows me to get around outside. Mobility scooter can enable prople to keep their independence but if the user can for example walk to the nearest shop but can't walk to shops further away it would be sensible for them to walk to the nearest shop & use the scooter only when wanting to go to the shops further away
Not everyone can use a manual wheelchair. Even those who can may not be able to use it for long distance or an extended period. I recently became disable and started with a manual chair but my wife had to help push for the most part until I got a dog and started training her to pull me to help. Sidewalks aren't perfectly even and a lot of the wheelchair accessible corners have a small lip. I've even been in a doctors office that had a 1 inch lip and I could mot get over it without someone helping me. I had to tent a scooter for a couple of conventions we did and it made a huge difference. I didn't gave to rely on my wife or my arms which are already screwed up. Plus using a manual chair on carpetting sucks. We would have had to stop and rest a LOT more and cut our days very short. if we had the manual one.
Manual chairs also aren't going to improve your health just because they require more physical effort. They can also make things worse if you aren't able to use it and push yourself anyway.
While I'm sorry for your situation I'd wager that have the chair lift did little to cause a decline in his health.
Lol I'm 100% certain him using the stair lift wasn't what caused his health to decline hahahahahaha
I would like to know where Mabel got her cover. I love seeing people on theirs. Elderly people are way more conscientious about their fellow cruisers and travelers than others. In the southern US the kids get these, soup them up, znd group up to drive around like hell's rejects; not stopping at red lights and driving on both sides of the road.
I drive a mobility scooter on pavements I only travel a 2 miles per hour or less. I often have to stop to avoid people who walk into me while looking at their mobile phones. When on the road I obey the highway code
I was once talking to a guy sat at a bus stop and someone drove over our feet!
I purchased my first mobility scooter 6 months ago....I'm 68 yrs old. Mine is a 4 mph pavement scooter, but I only ever have the speed at a maximum of 2 mph.....and that is when there is no other person in front of me on the pavement. Plus I'm always respectful to other people that are using the pavement.
Since purchasing the scooter, I've come across other irresponsible mobility scooter owners. They speed along expecting people to jump out of their way, or come up behind them suddenly giving them a fright. They've even sounded their horn at me to get out of their way, and then they bomb past me like they are a formula 1 driver on a race track.
I've been a car driver for 48 years (though no longer have a car), so I do know how important insurance is. I made sure that I purchased insurance before I used the scooter for the first time.
Even though I have a vehicle licence, I do think that some sort of mobility scooter proficiency test ought to be mandatory before you're actually allowed to purchase a mobility scooter. Insurance ought to be mandatory also.
Given the ageing population, there will be an increase in the number of mobility scooters here in the UK, and something does need doing before there is a huge problem.
Anyone remember the Irn Bru advert when the old wifey was riding one and smashed through a shop front glass to get Irn Bru? That’s what I think of when I see some old biddy riding a mobility scooter!
Mobility scooters are great for those that need them (of any age!), but scooter users, pedestrians, drivers, cyclists, etc all need to be conscientious of each other. Scooter users need to be able to safely control their scooters - the training courses look great! Other people need to keep pavements clear and drivers need to be mindful of more vulnerable road users.
Everyone has a part to play in keeping each other safe and independent.
If some medical procedures didn’t take so long to organise maybe some of us could get to walk a little longer
I use a powerchair, I can hobble about a little bit sometimes in my home but need wheels to get further. My condition means all my joints dislocate easily so a mobility scooter was no good for me as turning the handlebars caused my shoulders to pop out & now I'm down to 1 functional shoulder (other has been permanently partially dislocated for 5 years, 3 cheers to the wonderful nhs in the uk for telling me to 'just get used to it) I'd be even less able to use a scooter, shame as they are far cheaper than a decent powerchair. I have seen some pretty hairy driving skills mostly with scooters but sometimes powerchairs too & it does make me wonder if their should be some sort of driving test but then if you fail the test what do you do? Just stay stuck in your home?? I mean people walk around not looking where they are going frequently & bump into other people so then they should be confined to their homes too surely! I have countless times had people walk into my massive powerchair 'oh didn't see you there' how?? My chair is an all terrain one, it is not small lol I have so far not run anyone over despite people suddenly stepping back just as I am passing behind them in shops on an alarmingly regular basis. My precious chair once developed an intermittent steering fault where with no warning it would suddenly turn in a circle, couple of close calls there before I could afford to get it fixed but 16 years of powerchair use & no one has had cause to claim from the insurance yet, I do keep my chair insured though just incase
I’m deaf. The elderly driving these thing just expect everyone to move out of their way, but they don’t consider the people who can not get out of their way because they have physical difficulties too. Nor do they consider the deaf who simply can’t hear them. They are a menace on our pavements.
Some of us use these scooters from a young age. For the last 3 years I've been too sick to get out even with one. I'm still not a "pensioner" and most of my life has been spent bedridden. Don't judge all of us by how others misuse scooters. Some of us have used them responsibly for decades and when you see us out on one it may be a rare treat.
@@jwsuicides8095 hear hear!!
@@jwsuicides8095 Thank you for saying that. I wish that your health would improve. I’m 56, so I can relate to your circumstances. ❤
@@GaryGans Thank you. Are you a user too? A fun side has been little kids wanting to have a go on them. They've come up and made the noise, "Brrrrroooom, brrrrroooom", asked for a ride, etc. One kid said to me, "I can't wait till I'm old so I can have one". Their parents get embarrassed but I think it's a natural reaction and have a laugh with them.
Here we go. Picking on those with restricted mobility issues while idiots illegal on high powered ebikes and escooters are left untouched by the police
This guy had me dead 😂😂😂 10:43
I use a scooter here in the US. I live in an over 55 community which is some help. I have a couple of rules. My scooter is limited to 5 miles per hour which is plenty. When there are other people about, I make a point of never going faster than the pedestrians. I also have rearview mirrors, which I didn't see on these scooters for some bizarre reason. Not to pass them. I also carry a walker which I make liberal use of as well. I also have a golf cart for use for longer trips around, but it also carries a walker.
It's a pity all people are not like the lovely gentleman at the end l don't think there would be any problems then.
As for the lady that said the child should have got out of the way that just shows you the problem.
I drive a scooter and I drive it as if it is a car. I used to drive a car so use the skills I learned for that when I am driving the scooter. I think the lady who is doing the campaign is brilliant and I would love to do the same where I live. Is there any way to Get in touch?
We seem to have a much smaller proportion of people in the US using scooters. For one thing, you have to be nearly dead before insurance will pay even part of the cost; also, our sidewalks and streets are extremely wide, so it's much easier to stay out of each other's way! I'm about to buy a modestly-priced scooter soon, which will enable me to get out of the house and shop for my own groceries and do many other errands for the first time in years. Maybe I can even go to a park. I can't wait!
Bringing road rage to your sidewalks and retail stores near you....lol
I have a mobility scooter due to the fact I only have one leg. Before I bought mine the company selling it ensured I could use it. But some people who have them do not have a clue on how to use them. Weaving in and out of traffic a law to themselves. Before I lost my leg I was run over by one and the person blamed me, since she ran into the back of my legs, it was all my fault. You see them in shops when clearly there isn't enough room. All people who use them should sit some type of roadworthy test to make sure they can use them. Even giving them to partial sighted people should be a big no no. Shops that sell them just want a sale. They should be also held accountable if they sell one to someone who should not have one.
I only go on the road when people are on the pavement and there is no room. I don't expect anyone to step onto the road. I can do 16mph on the road and sometimes I do when it's time to get home and it's raining or something. I agree with others. And i've had the training
I'm currently very disabled with arthritis and have been considering getting one but I'm not comfortable using them on our roads and the pavements here are either non existent very narrow or unsuitable for scooters because there are no drop kerbs.
I lived in the midlands for a while and was actually quite surprised to see a lot of able bodied people using them as a convenient mode of transport in some places. They were basically using them like ebikes without the discomfort and effort especially in the holiday towns on the east coast. There are dozens of shops selling used examples for peanuts and the classified ads and marketplace were full of them. Ironic then that I'm now in need of one myself but they are currently out of my reach because of cost and unsuitable infrastructure.
Get a referral from your GP or social worker to wheelchair services. They don't offer scooters, but if you need a motorised device to get around then an electric wheelchair is far better IMHO. You can take them on the bus, and they're very easy to get in and out of most buildings, providing they have ramped access.
my missus had a new electric wheelchair from the hospital, so essentially the same thing.... she had to have a cognitive test, and three afternoons training and a trip into town, to be assessed competent.
i couldnt get one from the hospital cos they said i wasnt entilted to one cos i was able to move about the house just
The problem is that some scooter owners drive too fast in the wrong places or don't pay enough attention
I use a wheelchair when going out for my mobility and one day my husband was walking on pavement a lady using a big mobility scooter bumped into my husband and bruised his leg. He was lucky he wasnt hurt that much but he had some pain and bruising. He was really angry and upset that the lady didnt even go on the road. The lady apologised and said shes new using it she should have been trained on how to use it.
On average over the 11-year period, there were three pedestrian fatalities per year due to collisions with a pedal cycle and 67 seriously injured per year.
I want one but I am having trouble deciding on the one that I should get.
That's the future of society, isn't it? Wasn't there a scene where everybody is obese and oblivious to the real worl in some animé called Wall-E?
I’m not obese.
I have one and in my mind there to quite if they made a clicking sound people would know you’re there! I see in England they don’t have Rego plates in Australia they have to be registered no cost .
Some one should come out to your home with 10 cones and test you. You fail you get suspended for a period of time. Multi failures, longer suspensions. Cost - 40 pounds per test.
Not only should they take a test but they should also have insurance and have a licence plate on them so they can be identified should they have an accident.
On Motability they have all of that.
@@GaryGans Cars yes theses Scooters NO.
some scooters you do need a plate on the back
All mobility scooters got a switch to slow you down so in a highly populated pavement use the switch to slow you down Iv got a scooter been using it for 5 years with no accident and get insurance .it’s a must
I have, on occasion, had the privilege of driving the motorized shopping carts where I work. Keeping it slow, I still notice how many people are too busy paying attention to their phones to watch where they are going; seriously, one customer tripped on the scooter and began fussing at me until I pointed out that I was stopped to assist another customer. I have even had customers run their carts into me because they're too engrossed in their phones to pay attention. It's getting to the point where cellphones need to be banned. People, especially kids, running into poles because their phones are more important than their safety.
I look at this story from both sides of the argument and, seriously, everyone needs to start being accountable for their actions and mistakes. It isn't always the pedestrian's fault, but it isn't always the scooter operator's fault either.
There should be more restrictions on scooters and those who use them? There should be more restrictions on cellphones and those who use them, too, but where are the petitions on that issue? Not where, because people with phones don't want to be held accountable for not paying attention. Cellphone usage is one of the major causes of accidents the world over, but do we petition against them? No.
We all need to be held accountable for our actions and accept responsibility for our mistakes and quit blaming others.
Most of the ones in the US that are sold as medical devices are speed limited and don't go as fast as the ones in this video.
I think they should be allowed on the M1
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Good on ya.🤣😀🤣💨💨💨💨💨💨💨 I'd like to see a few in pot holes. The naughty ones.
Yeah, and call it a population control device. There’s just far too many people on this planet.
The 8mph ones aren't allowed on motorways but they are allowed on all other national speed limit roads, although they're advised to avoid dual carriageways above 50. Single carriageways are fine mind.
I use a power chair. Mine is limited on speed..maybe 5 miles an hour, but I use it at walking speed cause I know I could hurt someone, I can use mine on the sidewalks, not allowed on the roads. If it wasn’t for my chair, I’d never get to leave my home. I have congestive heart failure, super tachycardia, 24/7 oxygen, brittle bone disease, & I wear a prosthetic legs. Due to my heart & lungs I can’t push myself in a chair anymore. I use to in my 20’s, but now I get winded just walking to the mailbox. I understand some aren’t good with them, but some people aren’t good in cars either so should we take those too?
Trouble with mobility scooters is that quite a few do not need them, some can run very fast
I think being a car driver gives you a different attitude to driving a scooter but many users are ignorant and incompetent. I regularly use one and do have to say that pedestrians are just as thoughtless. They don't seem to think that they have any personal responsibility for looking where they are going. The number of times I have avoided hitting somebody who has walked directly into my path, usually with mobile phone in hand that they are concentrating on is frequent.
Pedestrians try and walk through me and my power chair all the time. I roll around muttering "another one not looking where they're going" to myself hoping they'll glance up and be offended enough to look around for who might have been so rude. I've even had people try to literally climb over me while I'm trying to close a bathroom door behind me. Rather than ask if I need help, I'm apparently a waist height wall to be traversed. Who knew!
Emily, like almost every woman who fails a test on wheels is in reverse. 👍You're not the only one.
On the streets they need scooter lanes like there are bike lanes. If they were a bit smaller that would also be helpful. There should be scooter road rules that everyone knows even autos and pedestrians.
In places like Copenhagen and the Netherlands mobility scooters and tiny cars for disabled use the protected bike lanes. It works for everyone there. Many get to have their own cheap autonomous travel and maintain their independence.
@@krob9145 Copenhagen’s system is the best in the World. What a shame that we are not in the EU anymore.
Yeah, we do it is illegal to ride your mobility scooter on a bike lane and bus lane, believe it or not, so we only have the footpath to drive on
😢🎉❤😂🎉😢😅😢they need scooter lanes for kick scooters as well great form of transport very helpful in more ways than one a scooters lane would be thoughtful as well❤❤🎉😢🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I thought Moss mobility scooters have speed electronic restrictions built into them to prevent them from going too fast I mean maybe I'm wrong but I'm assuming that's how they're set up from the factory.
Alan first 5 mins forced dogwalker off pavement
Reminds me of a Monty Python skit..."The Grannies"
3:02 ill bet nothing is her fault
Adding proper brakes would help. It is not as easy to brake by letting go of the lever and anticipating the distance for it to slow down in time. Also the price of wheelchairs and the nhs not adequately addressing the need means that a scooter is often the only option for low-income disabled people.
You get what you pay for. The TGA Vita X is not on the Motability Scheme but it has very good brakes. The Vita S is on the Scheme, and I have that one now. It’s okay. Not great.
These scooter which I need to go shopping are bloody expensive
I am all for people being able to use these mobility devices. I think that anyone on any electric or gas propelled conveyance or cycle, should always give way to anyone on foot especially if it is someone who is Blind, very young, or those using self propelled wheel chairs, crutches, canes , or walkers.
It's all about Mentality .. If Your a Pratt with wheels and don't care for others ( Problems will happen ) If Your a Realistic User and think of Others No problems .. It ain't Rocket science.. Too Many Scooter Users think They are the be all and end all of the Pavement and Shop floors ... Also So many Scooter Users don't need them they are just down right lazy ( I know a few like that )
I think one big problem is the look of them too, I think just because you're disabled doesn't mean you shouldn't travel in style, I'm trying to start a company making ebike but what I want to dabble in eventually is making a mobility scooter with style
There’s some wonderful scooters that are made with a sense of style, but they are not on the Motability Scheme. When I was in Copenhagen I drove one, and it was wonderful. Well designed and constructed, but Denmark does everything better than the UK.
To Carol…did you share this video/documentary as part of your evidence to make changes to law? Contact the insurance companies for stats to support your campaign
Who said anything about banning mobility aids? I am disabled myself so of course I realise there are differences in needs. Motorised wheelchairs are not capable of the same speed as mobility scooters but users can still be aware of safely using their aid. The half hour introduction given to purchasers is no way enough instruction on use.
@@skwatson2617 I noticed that as well because when I have to sign onto a new Lease Contract for the Motability Scheme the dealership goes through the Laws and Regulations relating to riding on both the tarmac and the pavement. Are they omitting this training for this programme in order to deliberately mislead the public about what Motability Scheme Employees must disclose before you are handed the keys to my new mobility scooter?
We are perpetually presented as the bad persons, when the majority are acting accordingly? The bias is infuriating!
Dearest Karen, Keep up the fight for public safety.🎖 Regular testing, insurance and policing sb required. Speeding on pedestrian walkways in motorized vehicles should result in stiff fines. 👮♂️
I've got a near neighbor who uses his deceased wife's mobility scooter. To say he's a hooligan with it is an understatement especially as he is perfectly able bodied. He wizzed past as I was backing the car out and I nearly hit him. Naturally in full entitled mode he blames me, he's such an unpleasant individual. My point? We often criticise our young people sometimes unfairly and old people can be just as bad if not worse.
God bless you all don't worry God knows you❤
I see a problem here. Although members of the public need to be kept safe from mobility scooters and vice versa it all boils down to common sense of both parties involved. Its not as if mobility scooters are traveling at high rates of speed. The problem here is that disability rights are at risk of being taken away from disabled people if laws start coming out around them. We are now living in a time where human rights are being stripped from us, disabled people are having there rights stripped by doing this.
Ok, what I want to know is the accident/death comparison between the same amount of scooter drivers vs. the same amount of pedestrians in the same area and time frame. That is the only way to get an accurate assessment since a mobility scooter user is considered to be a pedestrian/wheel chair user in most of the civilized areas in the modern world.
Need to have mandatory training and low cost insurance....I feel really sorry for those elderly/disabled...gotta look after them.