Can You Beat Oblivion Without Killing Anything?
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- it's the game that everyone who has played Skyrim pretends they have played!
Rules:
-No attacking at all
-No followers that aren't part of the main story in some form
-Can only use restoration spells that heal myself or others, can't use restoration spells that drain abilities or stats from people
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You should have picked a female high elf, they're the tallest player race and as such they are naturally faster than any other player race since speed is tied to height in Bethesda games. Pick athletics and acrobatics as major skills as well since every time you run or jump anywhere it makes you run faster and jump higher over time. You can do some crazy Monkey King acrobatics in Oblivion with that set up.
Does this carry over into Skyrim?
@@red_hat_wallace4562 Yes and no, the Altmer in Skyrim is actually slightly shorter in Skyrim than in Oblivion (1.08 height units instead of 1.1 height units) and the overall movement speed in Skyrim is a bit slower overall. Combine that with the fact that Bethesda nixed the speed stat in Skyrim as well as both the athletics and acrobatics skills means that your player character will never be able to become faster as you level up. The reason it works in Oblivion is because of those three things, as you level up and increase your character's speed stat you become physically faster, as you become better at the athletics skill you can run and swim faster, and as you become better at the acrobatics skill you can jump higher and fall further without taking damage.
Skyrim just doesn't do that. So yes, technically, the Altmer is the fastest race in Skyrim, but it's nowhere near a noticeable difference.
The movement speed difference is somewhat noticeable when you compare something like a male Bosmer to an Altmer or even a Nord. A male Bosmer struggles to dodge melee attacks while a taller race, with enough attention, can dodge the majority of physical attacks (although blocking is *so* much easier)
Didn’t know height was a factor for movement that’s pretty dope
@@red_hat_wallace4562 no
only in oblivion can you build a stairway with paintbrushes
Honestly one of my favourite things to mess around with when I was a kid, loved seeing how many areas I could glitch in/out of
It just works.
@@VeryEvilGM Oblivion by its design just makes a glitch a greater form of a feature :D
Back in Morrowind "exploits" was the term used to describe "intended gameplay".
Yep
Don't you just hate it when you get jumped by paparazzi when you go buy so lettuce?
I know right! It's honestly ridiculous
In the battle in paradise you could just use command humanoid in one of the sons of camaron and wait for them to kill each other
A friend of mine actually suggested that, he mentioned Mah-Dry Bread's Oblivion Illusion challenge, I decided against using anything that wasn't blocking or restoration though cause while I wouldn't be the one actively attacking I kind of see it that when I'm using the command humanoid spell that the person I am using it on is like a summon, that is just my personal preference though, I guess I like making things unintentionally hard, sorry about the long reply
My strategy for the camoran fight is twofold.First scrap all the crap with a woodelf and do High Elf Atronach with 100% spell absorb +Necromancers amulet +Mundane Ring for incredible buffs.
Second make custom spells to boost the FEK out of Eldamil in the final fight and command humanoid on the other two children, put on equipment that grants 100% Chamelelon and watch the carnage.
@@Nerbit13098 Would level grinding actually help here? Now I know in RPGS, anything is possible if you grind enough but Oblivion is different. It has a very very weird level-scaling that makes enemies stronger with the player. So in Oblivion it is possible (probable even) that things will get HARDER if you level up too much. So would grinding be able to help with the Camaron fight? If it does, will that make the rest of the game impossible because it will start spawning some of the nastiest enemies in the game instead of wolves due to your higher level.
@@Zulk_RS In Oblivion, you only level up when you sleep. You can grind your skills up, but not actually increase your level.
@@SuperZergMan Yeah but as far as I am aware, you don't get more HP if you don't level up. So I think skill grinding without leveling up would not help in any way as the Camaron fight would probably still have you get one-shot by the enemy.
That character is a monster and while you should feel great shame for having created him, I am proud of you.
I tried this challenge once. I was stuck in a corner just barely protecting myself from a bandit that wouldn't move. After an hour, I snapped and exterminated the entire population of the Imperial City.
That is a very normal response my friend, couldn't tell you the amount of times I just went on killing sprees in Oblivion if something annoyed me lol
I love hearing the screams of citizens
Ah yes, the old 'Pop 1000 Skooma and let the profligates burn' strategy. Taught only by the elders.
I made a spell with a high illusion character that applied max points of frenzy and rally to everyone in max radius. Setting it off in the Imperial City is amazing.
Ya know, as ya do.
I thought this had more views this is like really good
I am here at 69k views
Right? Nerbit is awesome!
@@imfatkid420 Two years later...
Spell reflection counts as kills in the stats menu so you wouldn’t have been able to do that anyway, the chapels sell the healing magic you were looking for, and the way you ended the game is fine. If you got through everything other than killing Cameron you basically skipped 20 minutes
If you had gone with a Breton, you could have pick pocketed the mundane ring and had 100% magic resistance. While this would not speed up the fights, it would make you much more difficult to kill, allowing you more time.
8:20 I don't know why I'm laughing so much at this
8:46 I'd know that guitar riff anywhere. Nerbit confirmed a Revengeance enjoyer.
Me: Hmm haven't seen any videos by this guy before let's check him out
You: "So I named him Bert"
Me: *subscribes*
I found your channel by accident and the title sounded interesting and I am so glad I did. All of the videos I have seen were amazing, you deserve more views and subscribers.
Well Done!
As Todd once said, "It just works." So in my mind. This is a successful run. Remember it's not a bug it's a feature.
Awesome videos. I can't believe you don't have more subscribers. Keep it up!
I'm happy I encountered your channel! Keep it up!
Your content is very well out together. I have no doubt view & subscribers are going to be coming in real quickly
Does poisoning the sheep in Sheogorath's Daedric quest not invalidate the run? Hmmmmmmm. Also, spell reflection would really have been invaluable to finish the questline without glitching.
I mean he didn’t kill the sheep the poison did, he just enabled the poison
I was thinking the same thing with spell reflection, from memory there's a few items that have it baseline? Like Spell Breaker I believe
Tricking Dremora into falling to its death feels controversial too. I wonder if it could be pick-pocketed if paralyzed?
@@BloodHoundPL ehhh... I don't know. For example, if someone tries to fight you on top of a roof, misses their punch, and falls to their death, no sane person would accuse you of murdering that person. They died of their own choices and bad luck. Especially since you didn't want to fight them and were actively trying to avoid the fight.
Reflection counts towards the kill counter in the stat menu. I suggest abusing traps and illusion. Anything you can't kill run from.
Your character is just beautiful 😍
That character looks amazing! I have a plan to do this exact challenge way in the future, but I was going to try the entire game. There's a staff call the Sanguine Rose Staff that summons Daedric monsters and they will attack anyone around, but it doesn't count as your kill, and your not attacking the person your needing to get rid of specifically, you can shoot it at the ground and it still summons them, but if they kill who ever is around and the monster hasn't disappeared yet then they will attack you until the spell wears off, lol. Anyway I hoping to see if this works, but great video and I love your videos, been binge watching a lot of them when I get a chance!
Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but the mod NorthernUI (including the version that keeps the default ui) adds the Xbox controller support back in to PC Oblivion
I prefer controller with oblivion and xinput just sucks so it's a life saving mod
THIS SHOULD HAVE HAVE MILLIONS WHAT!! you deserve so much more!!
The lettuce part is just the perfect visual of what Oblivion npcs are
I applaud your commitment.
Thanks to this video, I learnt how to build a paintbrush ladder, and when I was doing a paladin class build where the second I leave the sewers I go straight to anvil for the DLC, and when I went to the ayelid run to get the crusader helmet I grabbed some paint brushes from the imperial city market district, built a 3 brush ladder, skipped 90% of the dungeon and left
"I explained everything to Sean Bean, that he's secretly Patrick Stewart's son."
Well, that's certainly a quote.
I think Namira's quest was easier than Sheogorath you just find any drink to reduce personality then go to the shrine cast spell to the priests let thoses forgotten one kill them
3:06 So I'm not the only one who calls them Bouncing Bettys.
3:28 I almost always find that Dremora dead. My theory is that he usually gets a facefull of fire and shrapnel from bouncing bettys.
Found your channel on the Arkham Reddit, I fucking love you dude!!!
Hey thanks man, it really does mean a lot to know people are enjoying these, that's all I can hope for :)
Nerbit honestly, my pleasure dude. you put so much effort and work into these that you deserve the attention
The videos have actually done better than I had hoped lately, I'm so happy that they seem to be getting more attention lately
Nerbit you absolutely deserve all the attention! you’re incredible for a small channel! keep doing what you’re doing and i can assure you, this won’t be the last time you see my name in the comments :)
Honestly thank you so much for all the support, I'll hopefully see you on next weeks video then as well :)
I decided to try this. I actually tried doing this challenge before seeing your video and came here to see what strategies you used for the Mankar Camoran fight (because I too couldn't do it).
What I did is I built an Illusionist character since practically every Illusion spell type is essential in this run. I tried to use a paralysis spell on Mankar Camoran so that Eldamil could kill him while Camoran is down, but Camoran has an unfairly high reflect spell effect on him. You CAN technically use Command Humanoid on his kids, but if they kill him while under your control, the kill registers as your kill, just like summoned creatures' kills. And our good friend Eldamil; he's just terrible in this fight. I spent over 2 hours trying to keep him alive. I even gave in and used the dupe glitch for paralysis and silence poisons (even though I wanted to do a no-glitch run), but running back and forth between everyone to hit them with paralysis just wasn't practical. And there's no way to get Eldamil to focus only on Camoran while everyone is paralyzed.
You can lower the difficulty to make everyone easier to kill, but this also applies to our stupid friend Eldamil. And even with Convalescence (and even Superior Convalescence), keeping Eldamil, keeping everyone else down, all while hoping Eldamil will target Camoran, is just too much. Granted, this IS the final hardest challenge for a pacifist run before the end of the main quest. So maybe I'll keep at it. I'm determined to beat the main quest with no killing and no glitches or skips. I owe it to myself for having played Oblivion for many many years.
If anyone finds a working strat, please let me know. I'd love to try to finish what I've started.
Did one a while back. I just kited loads of daedra from the previous area into the fight with mankar etc. then just healed them as they completed the fight
Another great one!
I aim to please :)
i love your vids so much! the amount of effort you put in is phenominal 😊
Bert looks kinda like crash bandipoot
I've never played any of these games but it's so darn interesting 😄
Having to skip an ad only to come back to Martin’s face all red screaming by the nine made me laugh way harder than it should have.
When you think about it, it makes complete sense that the emperor would mention seeing you in their dream, because you're not just another person that seems vaguely familiar, no, you're the exact same, mistake of creation hell spawn that he saw in it.
That Dremora always hunts scamps
I love how "I've killed far worst than you" must be normal enough as a response that it isn't perceived as a threat
Would love to see you try to do the Dark Brotherhood quests like this
i think it would be cool to do one where you just can’t do health damage. Allowing for things like frenzy and calm spells. You could also do things like draining speed by 100 points with a spell
During Shaogorath's quest, you totally poisoned those sheep - yee failed there.
8:25, I love how everyone else is so cordial and pleasant and then just-- that
14:15 funniest thing I’ve seen in a while.
I died laughing from that sudden cut to your character at the beginning 😂
Love that you used the duplication glitch X''D
I instantly had flashbacks the moment you referenced WaW Online.
I'm just casually going through all your runs 🏃♂️ of videos
ayyy, stains of time at 8:47
pretty dope
Amazed myself by recognising Vince on the thumbnail in under a second lol
That headphone warning was faster then RE4 quick timed event.
I knew this is how it would end. Anyone who is a real fan of oblivion knows about the door through the roof of the temple.
You could have just enchanted pieces of equipment with the Reflect Damage and Reflect Spell effects (or picked some up, as there are several pieces of equipment/rings/amulets/etc. in the game with those effects) and just ran around healing yourself while Mankar Cameron slowly killed himself from the reflected damage he received through attacking you. You don't even need 100% on these enchantments, as even a small % of damage being reflected back would eventually kill Cameron, provided you were able to keep yourself healed up. This wouldn't qualify as attacking, as the NPC is doing said damage to themselves by attacking you.
Glitches I knew about: scroll duping, paintbrush ladders
Glitches I didn't know about: the hidden door to the endgame
Here’s a comment for the algorithm. You deserve a bigger audience.
valid/ sound ending. the glitched speed run counts it, so it counts.
I like the face, not as much as my own who's face was concave. You couldn't tell at all from the front, but if you turned it sideways it turned into a nightmare.
Best possible thumbnail
“I don’t want to rely on exploits”
*gives up and becomes Spiffing Brit*
That dremorah is always there in the first gate, i remember getting it everytime on the ps3 when i was a kid
for the record that dremora in the kvatch gate always dies fighting the scamp near the tower, ive never checked but i assume its faction wasnt set up right as its not a common type of dremora you see through the game :p
Can we get more Oblivion videos Nerbit? Pretty please?
I feel like you couldve given that forced follower good gear when he was knocked out and you were able to access their inventory. Not sure, great video tho!
Dunno if this is still relevant but if you have frostcrag spire you can get a unique consumable that summons a dremora, if you were to save after summoning and disable the plugin it will make the dremora permanent and could maybe make the paradise fight easier
[ picks Steed sign without hesitation ] - Ah, a Morrowind player I see
I feel like this would make Oblivion gates easier to complete actually, that's if you don't get cornered by enemies tho. Usually I hate Oblivion gates because it takes forever to constantly chip away at enemies but sometimes I just run through gates and kill necessary enemies which is a much nicer experience
Couldnt you use the calm spell?
"Monstrosity"
What do you mean? He's so handsome.
Wow. Thanks for thew 1/8 second warning to turn down the sound. So many thanks....
I didn’t know you wrote scripts for these but it makes sense.
8:20 me during thanksgiving
13:56 Didn't even know that could happen. And I've played the hell outta Oblivion. Cool.
I recall fleeing the King of Miscargant and YUP he chased me all the way to Bruma
Nerbit speedrun
This definitely counts for me
I know I'm a year late, but, had to ask because I was confused a little. So, you CAN beat Oblivion without killing anything, correct? When I say "you" I mean in general. Great video as always, keep up the great work!
Working in NI as a junior doctor next year, would be keen to meetup for some Bethesda bashes 😊
If you want to find spells that heal others in the future, try the chapels.
19:20 when you at an important event and then you see your mate from school
Man, you're funny as hell.
I wonder if you could pickpocket some better armour (or enchanted 100% chameleon armour) onto Endamil. Glitched Bound/Daedric armour is weightless so it shouldn't be too hard to pickpocket
Oh god, we doing the duplication glitch and then Paintbrush BS. I love it.
It is possible to kill Mankar with spell reflections!
Honestly can't believe I forgot about that
Reflection also counts as a kill tho
Damn, there is this though! Head to 13:20, did Mankar kill himself in this?
czcams.com/video/Pe9U19dxAL8/video.html
@@JacquesArnold that is odd, going through the comments on that video and apparently he may have hit his son with a spell and since his son sets up a spell reflection it's highly likely that it bounced back and killed him, I'm not sure if that's exactly what happened but if it is then that is hilarious
@@Nerbit13098 Considering it's Oblivion, I wouldn't even be all that suprised, that's amazing in fact haha
I wonder if you could have used the bound weapons/armor glitch to outfit Eldamil with gear that could actually damage Camoran, maybe plus a healing spell it could have worked? The glitch is this - cast a bound weapon or armor on yourself, damage it, then repair it and drop it until the spell wears off and pick it back up. It will stay zero weight so you can place it on NPCs. You can even enchant it. Certainly worth a try? And if we're glitching anyway you might as well quicksave/quickload through the walls of Sancre Tor while you're at it.
You should have named him,
Bernt
That dremora is frequently dead. He also has a ludicrous number of dremora field arrows.
1:46 Its okay, staring at nothing is a big hobby amongst people in Cyrodiil, you won't stick out too much. Lol
All oblivion challenges are possible because you can glitch the tutorial mission and basically finish the game in just about one minute. Is it a satisfying answer? Is it a practical one if you want to prove a challenge possible? Very much yes.
You can just _hear_ ymfah taking notes
i love how you do all this, just to do the speed run strat to skip the entire story
4:35 ah a fellow man of culture.......... REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
If he was at high enough level, he could've dine the peaceful sanguine wuest
Shattering impact is an underrated mod.
It would have been hilarious if Sean Bean got super nervous about meeting Jauffre, just as a Game of Thrones reference, even though I know that Oblivion came out before he was even cast on the show.
Nice vid
Everybody thinks that the aid for Bruma does nothing , it does do something , if you don't do the quest you are given nothing but low level bruma guards ( which if you are anything above level 5 ) die fairly quickly . If you do the aid quest you get higher level guard capitains , also the chydenhall one gives you some neat side items . Remember Martin is unessential for the battle until you make it into the gate . I would say you should do at least 3 ( chydenhall , Kavatch and one other )
Hmm. Hmm. I just realized that Sean Bean is Patrick Stewart's illegitimate son- in oblivion.
5:56 Deleted my last comment on this because it was a bit snarky, but I still feel like saying something because it bothers me that this is considered fact by so many people despite it not being true. I also wanted to find out what exactly the trigger is for being able to interact with the grave to get the hideout marked on the map, just to be sure that Tar-Meena had nothing to do with it. So uh... if anyone is reading this comment on a three year old video, here are my findings after firing up a brand new game.
Firstly, the grave will always glow at noon, and while you CAN interact with it at the start of the game, it will do absolutely nothing. Secondly, in order for the thing to make a mark on your map, you do have to have met with the sponsor and gotten all four books. From there, the quest will flag the glowy tomb to mark your map regardless of whether or not you report your success to anyone. Tar-Meena only serves to provide hints, and failing that will outright state the answer. But you do NOT have to wait for her to give you the answer, as the game does not have her set any flags in that regard.
Now, as for why the time stamped line bothered me so much that I created a character in a 20 year old game and wrote a short essay on a three year old video; I mostly figured it out myself on my first playthrough. I actually set aside time to read the entirety of the Commentaries. While at first I only thought that it was a stylistic choice to make the first letter of each paragraph large and artsy, a way to be fancier than other books that only give the very first letter of the entire book that treatment, I did connect the dots once Tar-Meena gave me the first hint. Fast forward to the internet age, and everyone I watch playing Oblivion complains about how stupid it is that you're "required" to wait two in-game days for the dumb lizard to tell you what to do next. And nobody ever says anything to the contrary in the comments section; it's always some variation of "yeah, bad quest design". Only one person, a gent by the name of Just Background Noise, pointed out the large artsy letters and how they hold the answer. I had to prove to myself that I wasn't crazy, and didn't make up a false memory.
100 percent chameleon did the trick for me 14 years ago.
You could try healing scrolls at the end
Thanks for punching my eardrums at 7:10
Yeah Jesus Christ.