Southwest Airlines Engine Washing
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Southwest Airlines Co. has signed a multiyear agreement to use an environmentally friendly engine-washing system in an effort to save on fuel and cut carbon emissions.
The Dallas-based carrier is using the EcoPower system offered by East Hartford, Conn.-based flight technology firm Pratt & Whitney Global Service Partners. Terms of the deal weren't disclosed, but Pratt & Whitney said Southwest's annual fuel-cost savings could exceed $20 million. The airline also stands to cut 135 million pounds of carbon dioxide emissions annually as a result.
The arrangement with Pratt & Whitney comes as Southwest, along with the rest of the airline industry, faces record-high fuel prices that have led many to trim capacity and levy fees on travelers. Southwest in the first quarter reported a 63 percent drop in profit to $34 million, partially driven by a 34 percent hike in fuel and oil costs compared with the same period of 2007.
Southwest said it is performing regular washes at airports in Orlando, Fla., and Oakland, Calif., where Pratt & Whitney has established new service centers. The EcoPower equipment uses a closed-loop system with atomized water to wash aircraft engines, avoiding contaminant runoff, Pratt & Whitney said. The patented system is considered more effective and faster than traditional engine-washing processes.
Pratt & Whitney parent United Technologies Corp. (NYSE: UTX) employs more than 225,000 worldwide and in 2007 recorded $4.22 billion in profit on $54.8 billion in revenue.
this is honestly so cool you guys have these behind the scenes videos
I remember when i was a kid and saw this video, now im a plane enthusiast thanks to this video 📹
2:47 i guess that thing brews coffee too...
That is super cool they did a great job cleaning the engine
it's basically the same way when doing a compressor wash on the rolls Royce T56. hook up the wash hoses, turn off ignition and fuel, and just motor the engine
@scotplane Basically. They spin the compressor cores using compressed air. It takes roughly 600psi to fully start one of these engines. All they did here in this video was initiate the start cylce minus the fuel pump switches and throttle advance. If you have enough air, you could spin it all day long like this and nothing would ever happen without adding fuel. You'd get heat from the engine because the air is being compressed, but no combustion or super heated gases, which makes this possible,
2:45 "Let's have a drink" lol
Going to Galveston next week on Southwest to visit my best friend that I haven't seen in seven years! Thanks for the awesome roundtrip fare, Southwest!!!
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@Pooshooter5k The reduced emissions and fuel consumption are a result of the washing. Engines are not normally washed unless they are going to be serviced. The crux is that they have a new system and are going to wash the engines more frequently.
The "environmentally friendly" part is emphasized as sidebar.
The wash itself is being advertised as better than the old style wash systems because it recycles the water and traps the contaminants being washed out of the engine.
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Industrial strength coffee, for those extra long midnight hours.
I'm no plane enthusiast but this was very interesting. :)
@TheAllha I work for P&WC. Compressor washes can decrease your inter-turbine temperature by 10-15 degrees on the smaller turbines we make. It can add hundreds or thousands of hours between your Hot Section Inspections when done right and frequently enough.
Ladies, Boeing and airbus are both great aircraft companies. Both have had incidents. I like the A320 and the 777 a lot, but I also like the McDonnell Douglas MD-11. The MD-11 is my favorite. You get airbus and Boeing traits in one airplane.
Okay, First off they are motoring the engine. This is not for the fan you see at the front of the engine. it's for the CORE of the engine. That fan produces 80 percent of the thrust but it's spun by the low pressure turbine at the rear which is spun by the high pressure turbine from the core of the engine with the combustions. Motoring the core is spinning probably about 20-25 percent RPM. Also the engines are designed to throw stuff outside and around the core.
The engine was just running on the starter. No fuel was added.
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no the engine wouldn't start if it didn't have fuel
2:40 ah yes the best chocolate made from your southwest b737 engines xD
Wet mud maybe
@niklasmich Like he was reversing into a parking hahaha. "Hey ladies, I'll be with you's in just a sec, have to park my 737" XD
it dosent matter if they fly around the world or just US and they do not go to canada or mexico they stay in the US
and they are the best beacase they have the best service for a good price and key word is good price they dont rip you off and also they have great pilots and they have a good safety record. Southwest also has the most flights per day of any airline
Yep. Look at how a lot of airlines folded because of lucrative maintenance practices. For example, ValuJet was almost forced to close its doors because of the crash in the Everglades, but since they bought out AirTran, they're still ValuJet under the AirTran name. Their maintenance is not done in-house. It's all outsourced, to keep their costs down, AND to shift the blame elsewhere whenever something goes wrong.
The NTSB does not fine airlines for lax maintenance. They're only an advisory panel which cam only recommend procedures to both airlines and manufacturers regarding faults that led up to an accident after the investigation. In other words, NTSB is like the FBI; an investigative bureau. As for what recently happened, it was a freak incident that happened to the SWA plane. The cause is not from poor maintenance, though. SWA's got a great maintenance program, and that alone says a lot for SWA. :)
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This was shot "years ago". The cone shaped spinner on the engine was updated and replaced by a round one at least 4/5 years ago.
0:45 Hello, Mr. N726SW, its a pleasure to see that you are rinsing out the dirt.
@SenorSpode I don't think they ever pushed the fuel levers forward, Looks as if they just used the air pressure generated from the APU to spin the engine as if it were a starting cycle. Then as the engine spun, they sprayed chemicals to clean out the N1-N2 compressors and all the other engine parts, then released the pressure valve. If the engine were Idling, there would have been alot more heat and steam coming from the rear exit portion of the engine.
This is why they use this specially designed sprayer to clean out the compressors. The engine is motored (starter provides the air to spool up the core but no fuel is added to ignite and Start the engine) and then the sprayers actually spray and clean the core. I believe there IS a mild detergent in the water. Go google how High bypass turbofan's work and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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1971-2009 only 1 crash related death?!? thats a pretty kick ass safety record If you ask me! And I would like you to find me a person who doesn't like southwest anyway. My brother works for Delta and he can get me free flights yet I still choose to fly southwest!
@booman606 ECOPower by Pratt & Whitney is contracted by SWA to accomplish the engine washes. They do this for all types of engines not just Pratts.
Thats how they make the coffee on board.
It tastes nearly the same.
Because there are international customers who have used Southwest airlines, while visiting the U.S., before and most likely voted them their best flying experience.
@TopGun904 Guess who´s the FASTEST selling airplane ever...
Airbus A350 XWB INDUSTRIAL LAUNCH:
1 December 2006.
A350 XWB MONTHLY Orders :
14,42 planes
Boeing 787 DelayLiner Industrial Launch:
April 26, 2004.
787 DelayLiner Monthly Orders :
12,5 planes
YEP...The AIRBUS A350 XWB!
Well, Hawktb9: apparently, SW is being fined up to $10.2 million by the NTSB for lax maintenance. This came up due to an incident where during a flight from Nashville to Baltimore at 34,000 feet, a foot-long rip in the fuselage caused rapid decompression that forced pilots to return the craft to the airport without injuries, thankfully. I am not an alarmist, and I'm sure that Southwest isn't the only one, but airlines are in trouble. Maintenance issues are become more and more apparent.
well when you think of it, there are more Boeing in the world then there are airbus and bombardier and tupolev jets.
so duhh your gonna see more incidents, but that doesn't make their planes unsafe. they give more control to pilots and the safety of a plane depends on how well an airline manages their maintenence on it.
all planes are technically safe to fly (unless they have a severe design flaw), it'll vary from airline to airline to the extent of how safe they are.
@fachy1981 There is no A322, and A310 and A300 are widebodies, so they are not in the same category as the 737. Furthermore, the 737 comes in five different sizes, 737-500, -600, -700, -800, -900.
Interesting the information states an agreement with Pratt & Whitney when the only engines fitted to the wings of a 737 series aircraft are GE CFM56-7B series engines
@jsd23 Yep, ignition is disabled and the fuel switch is in cutoff so no fuel is entering inside the engine.
Well you can work ramp you know with the bags or you can get your A&P witch you would be a airline aircraft mechanic for the airline you choose just look on the airlines website to see if they have any openings.good luck.
Well if you spot at a huge itnernational airport (mine is KLAX) you see more than just southwest 737s but if you go to burbank (KBUR) all you'll see is fedex and ups a300s, the occasional 757, small crj's, alaska 737-900s, and a lot of southwest 737s but hey they are awesome planes always fun to watch
Incredible to find an airliner uploading videos for this long on how they do their maintenance on aircraft. At 2:46 why did that guy take a sample of the dirty engine water? Is it to find metal shavings or fragments?
my friend agree. But A380 looks more bigger than the 747 series. I saw it standing next too a 747 and 747 was looking like a small rat in front of a elephant. Plus the 747 is very noisy as well people complained about it. A380 uses number one British made Rolls Royce engines which are the best and not noisy compared to the American made GE.
I always thought the engines washed them selves when it rains
*jet plane intercom*
Ladies and gentlemen we are now in the process of.... MAKING JET-MILK! Please remain seated.
*click*
disagreed. least on the first part. i wouldn't say most plane crashes are due to pilot error. majority of the times it is maintenence problems.
but the real majority isn't pilot error due to what they know but due to mistakes made when put under situations that they weren't trained in or were mistrained for.
that and the lack of placing certain technologies like fuel vapor detectors in fuel tanks, those didn't show up till a TWA flight exploded in midair due to a spark in the fuel tank.
Geno you are right AND wrong. On the -300/-500 the spinners are flat, to fling rain/sleet/hail into the bypass air. But on the -700 the spinners are conical shapped.
@infernodood3 Its about as strong as a big gust of wind, you can do simple leak checks standing by the engine with it running like that.
@Randomness84726 in regards to it's first flight, yes it is less than a decade old. However, the A380 (formerly the a3xx project) began in 1994. The same year the Boeing 777 made its first flight.
Sounds like Pratt & Whitney is taking a play from the Jiffy Lube playbook. "If we flush you engine with this stuff you will get more power and better fuel economy." In the end, it just doesn't do anything.
I looked it up, it's turning the engine but not introducing fuel. Apparenty in addition to facilitating cleaning, dry motoring brings the engine hydraulics up to operating pressure allowing mechanics to ensure everything is normal.
@Pooshooter5k It gets carbon off the engine parts that interferes with airflow.
this is like engine flush for airplanes .. just wondering if they need it as clouds in the sky could do the job .
Excuse my ignorance, but why do they wash the engines? Do they run more efficiently when they're clean, is it a way to detect possible problems?
I only fly southwest airlines on domestic flights. I've never had a problem with them.
I don't know. It's funny that you say that. Every time I fly one of these, I ask myself the same question.
its amazing how they clean engines of a jet.
@atvman101 Yea, thats true but seeing a -100, or -200 series 37 is such a rare sight today and I think WN has retired all their -200's
@TopGun904 Remember that Airbus savoir faure in terms of composite building relates back to its first ever commercial plane in the 70´s: A300/A310.
Check that awesome A350 XWB wing that will be made in the UK...nothing related with Japanese 787´s
LOL
Very interesting.. Engine wash is a ATA TASK procedure by the engine maker. Most 737 aircraft are powered by GE engines.
@TopGun904
you're wrong
Germany wasn't allowed to build aircrafts after WW 1, so they focussed on cars.
that's the reason why germany makes the best cars o the world.
they set a secord in 1938 which is still unbroken, not even by the veyron.
mercedes benz rekord wagen.
it takes so much time, equipments and human resources to wash just one goddamn engine?
It doesn't matter whether its stolen or not, the 787 was produced first.
(Thats my opinion on copying and such)
@Giannis25307
Starters don't rotate the turbo fan that quickly. During start up, the fan doesn't spin that much until light off.
@southwestairlines What happend to this videos?¿ We havent seen any new ones :(
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@rextar23 Those fans spin so fast, that a ground crew member might think its not running and would not take as much caution. Its there for safety.
Ya love those jet engines especially the way they sound at start up and reving it up.Anybody got any suggestions as to start working in this field maybe ground operations?
@TopGun904 Boeing is now 10 years behind Airbus. Airlines that use the 747-400 will be looking to upgrade in the near future and it seems that A380 is the more popular choice. Airlines don't just want another 747 derivative. They want a completely new airliner.
Now with the delays of 787, it seems A350 will enter the market 2-3 years after 787 which should make for an interesting market. A350 can also take advantage of building second making A350 with slightly better technologies than 787.
@flanksteak2 Ok thank you for the clarification. I thought they were washed regularly anyway.
wow that is so cool
Maintenance, liability insurance, fuel.
Also the A320 is better than 737. Remeber the Hudson river crash credit goes to the pilot and the aircraft itself. The a320 after crashing in water didn't broke into pieces where as if it was a Boeing 737 then I believe there would definetly would have been losses.When the Turkish Airways aircraft 737 crashed, it broke into two pieces, A320 has fly by wire technology, which 737 doesn't.
n787mx, That's a great safety record, indeed. However, I'm addressing the issue of customer service. I have flown Southwest twice, and I know that's not many times, but in both instances, the service was poor. Two of my friends had similar experiences. Don't get me wrong, I'm not only slamming SW, here, as I think poor customer service has become widespread throughout the industry. Of course, there are many factors that contribute to that: rising fuel costs, cutbacks, and so on.
That is a very interesting video!!
My apologies, I meant the FAA. If you log on to the FAA website and do a simple search, say, "Southwest Airlines", a whole host of maintenance-related filings in the quarterly-enforcement reports come up. It's pretty interesting. Just on Page 7, I counted six maintenance-related enforcement issues. I'm not sure about this, but is it normal for FAA to file so many claims against one airline in just one quarter?
i don't see any PPE worn by the AMT. Probably back in the days its ok,
I take it that's with the engine starter engaged but not the fuel, right?
@thepod24 Airbus A321-100 is more comparable in size to the upcoming B737-900. Perhaps not an A322, but an A321-200 that has two or three more rows, which would narrow that slim gap between a plane the size of the 737-900 or the A321-100 (around 170-175 seats) and a B757 (180-190 seats). A322 completely out-races the all the 737 series!
@fachy1981 boeing owns the entire airplane industry like they build airliners, bombs, missles, satilites, military cargo planes and built bombers lets see scarebus build all of that.
Does that list demonstrate best airlines in terms of passenger satisfaction or safety record?
i do like flying southwest. But I will admit I don't like plane spotting them much. Southwest 737, southwest 737, southwest 737. oook I've had enough show me a DC9 or something lol
IT'S JAY JAY'S JET MILK!!!!
Interesting....P&W eco-wash being used on a CFM56 (GE/Snecma) engine.
probably every few months.
dont take my word for it, but i'd assume every 6 months or so.
i could be off by like 5 months idk.
Just an expensive way to make coffee!
I am going on south west I am so excited
@fachy1981 Southwest airlines has never had a fatal accident in it's history. The 737 is the most flown turbine airliner in the world and the FAA would not approve it for flight if it were unsafe. Name one aircraft in operation today (part 121/135) that is less than a decade old.
Excellent piece of technology that would definitely help keep the engines clean. Sadly, it has come about at a time when it SHOULD have been introduced YEARS ago when the technology HAS already been in use. So, my opinion is this: too little, too late. SWA could've been a lot smarter as early as the mid-90's to implement this method to cut fuel costs on the -200s and -300s, when they were in use.
hawktb9, you're right. What do you think are the implications for the future of airline safety? Should we expect an increase in incidents? Like my political science professor used to say, "Nothing ever just happens...There's always a series of events that leads up to the main event..." The same is true of airline incidents, and the beginning could very well be lax maintenance log-keeping.
3:02 YAY CHOCOLATE MILK!!!!!!
looks like he used one of the in plastic flight service cups to collect the sample!
@fachy1981 How do you know that ALL of those crashes had to do with the design of the 737? Yes, some of them did. But most of 737 accidents were due to things like pilot error, weather, etc. And I've been on many 737 flights in my life, and look at me; I'm still alive! And the cabin is more roomier than your cramped A320 that just tries to fit a lot of passengers in it.
you have your opinions and i have mine but I and everyone else says you are wrong southwest is not a bad airline. end of discussion
This comment is assigned to every1 who thinks that Airbus is a copy of Boeing. You try to design a plane that does not look like any Airbus, or Boeing. The Airbus company made the A380 in 2004, because airliners asked Airbus to do so. It was built to replace the Boeing 747. And please, today when we need to think about the environment. How could Airbus not make a plane similar to the B787? Besides, neither of them makes turboprop planes.
As a passenger I´m concerned just about safety...until composite planes proves to be as reliable as Aluminum then I´ll be satisfied
Until now, and following B787´s development, it has all chances of being a new kind of Mass Destruction Weapon
Boeing had NOT performed any kind of Repetitive fatigue testing on 787´s Wings, nor measured the impact of the stresses the winbox will have to cope: that will lend to catastrophic cracking events as far as I´m concerned
Can somebody explain to me how in the hell sitting static, at low RPM, and blasting water (unless there's a cleaner mixed in) cleans the turbines? Flying under max power, or near cruise speed, under a heavy rainstorm probably cleans the turbine just as much if not more.
thechosendude I work as a technician on helicopters. We can do a cleaning or a compressor rinse depending on the scheduled maintenance. When you perform a cleaning you spray a cleaning solvent into the engine and let it be there for a time. Then you perform a rinse and after that a ground run of the engine to dry it out.
But they don't show the burnout after the wash...no a complete wash. You gotta get the can clean otherwise the water will corrode the igniters. And then you really have problems! The burnout is the best! Lots of steam and smoke!
@flanksteak2 Does it same more fuel or cut more emissions then a non environmentally friendly wash? Is this just how they wash them? I though the big deal was that they are using a new method but maybe I’m misunderstanding. They claim they will same 20 mil in fuel. I appreciate your explination.
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@20jimmy200 I know right. I always think they will explode. It scares me, I could never do that.
We have this system at jetblue also.
this is pretty cool :)
nah its usin the startup system to spin the turbine no fuel is injected....
@thepod24 Which´s the BEST Life Killing plane ever?: The Boeing 737= 5900 Casualties.
Which´s the FASTEST Life Killing plane ever?: The Boeing 737= 2,5 casualties per month.
There you have Boeing beating the competition...The Best and the Fastest all at ONCE.
To save ur life...just avoid the KILLER 737.
Mmmm, you're right. Then once reached a 33000 feet altitude the engines must be shut down, engines washed until 15000 feet and then restarted. What if they don't?? Forget my ideas, keep on with this company!
and that my friends is served on-board as tea