Cabal Ranks - Destiny Lore

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024

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  • @mihaly_wt8367
    @mihaly_wt8367 Před 3 lety +88

    Bracus zavala hits different

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +29

      I mean, he'd be given a seat on her war council, that netts an automatic Valus or even Primus upgrade with Cabal-related perks and health benefits.

    • @rubiojesse4991
      @rubiojesse4991 Před 3 lety +15

      @@Moffee Confirmed,Zavala has dental coverage

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +23

      @@rubiojesse4991 Maybe a chiropractor too, seeing as how his voice actor's been hard carrying the entire series since Cayde's death.

    • @mutrad5
      @mutrad5 Před 3 lety +8

      Bracus Zavala colossus of the last city

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +11

      @@mutrad5 Literal grow thiccc with strength.

  • @cameronmunro655
    @cameronmunro655 Před 3 lety +92

    I will miss the red war missions.... so sad

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +16

      It's relatively short, to be honest, the story develops way too fast without any time to let any of the events sink in. The impact from Forsaken was far better.

    • @toby1061
      @toby1061 Před 3 lety +10

      Moffee I know but you can’t say that you didn’t miss fighting some of the most threatening Cabal in some of the largest numbers.

  • @SirSeed
    @SirSeed Před 3 lety +83

    fun fact: the cabal military ranks are from roman origins while the vex are named off of greek mythological creatures

  • @AymenDZA
    @AymenDZA Před 3 lety +59

    the more we know about Psions the more I'm convinced that the Cabal "conquering" them was only because they let them.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +18

      So tempted to put a "Your psions say no, but your hearts say yes" joke in here somewhere.

  • @stephenn1056
    @stephenn1056 Před 3 lety +28

    Design of the cabal: roman empire, but diesel punk

  • @zen4ever3
    @zen4ever3 Před 3 lety +26

    Fun fact: the red war was originally going to be called forge of Gods. It was meant to be a dlc for d1. Unfortunately that was scrapped and instead rise of iron was made. This also caused a vex dlc to be scrapped. However a cutscene from this vex dlc was leaked and was later used for the season of undying.

    • @AymenDZA
      @AymenDZA Před 3 lety +6

      then everything changed when Activision attacked

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +3

      I remember the Forge of Gods, I think the Vex DLC was supposed to be titled Vex Void or something similar.

    • @zen4ever3
      @zen4ever3 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Moffee yeah, your an og

  • @sne4ky1337
    @sne4ky1337 Před 3 lety +28

    bruh imagine the guardians are the supirior race and caiatl wants zavala to be a fcking bracus? lmao

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +10

      We don't do that here, Primus or above + Prime Health Benefits and Insurance coverage only. Oh and dental too.

    • @D0M1N1Z
      @D0M1N1Z Před 3 lety +1

      @@Moffee don't forget a 401k

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety

      @@D0M1N1Z Pretty sure it's going to be 401kk with the amount of riches the Cabal Empire has.

  • @notalexzander2
    @notalexzander2 Před 3 lety +20

    Commander is equivalent to a Valus according to dialogue from some EDZ public events.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +5

      I think there's been a conflict in script here though, seeing as how in certain events, at least in both early and later part of Destiny 1 and 2, a Valus is seen more of a captain or at least a high officer of a squad/legion. For example, Valus Nohr, it was said that she commanded the Shadows of Calus, yes, an elite force, but not a group large enough to be considered a faction of its own, otherwise she would have authority over a significant amount of Calus's loyalist legions.
      Another example is Valus Thuun, or even Valus Pra'urg who would appear as the main, or mini bosses of the strikes Tree of Probabilities and The Insight Terminus separately. While they do hold authority over some, it's not quite as significant as Zavala, as he is the acting commander of the entire Vanguard, including the Hunter and Warlocks. Though on paper Ikora is still the Warlock Vanguard, it's no surprise that everyone looks towards Zavala in a much higher capacity.
      Why I would say Primus fits the bill here is that some strong examples is before Ghaul took on the mantle of Dominus(Emperor) of the Cabal Empire, his role was the Primus of the Red Legion, which is a standing faction of its own. Another example is Umun Arath, Evocate-General, also known as Primus of all Legions. Lastly, Primus Ta'aun was the commander of the Skyburners legion.
      Edit: But still, there's been some inconsistencies with the scripts every here and there, would you happen to know which EDZ dialogue specifically, so we can look into it as well?

    • @notalexzander2
      @notalexzander2 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Moffee I think it’s the heroic extraction rig where you kill the excavator Valus which both your ghost and Devrim refer to as a commander at some point, and I was talking about the cabal “commander” rank, which is probably an informal equivalent to Valus

  • @Rbocop
    @Rbocop Před 3 lety +10

    Why do destiny 1 cabal bosses look so badass

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +6

      Because they were.

  • @lejenddairy
    @lejenddairy Před 3 lety +35

    I loved the design models for the cabal on D1. On D2 they look overly techie and look like hamsters. D1 they looked a lot more rugged and barbaric.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +9

      I agree, in D1 they were OG scary to fight with, but in D2 they look more like Hamtaro wearing transformers gear.

    • @lejenddairy
      @lejenddairy Před 3 lety +8

      @@Moffee also, if I’m not mistaken, I think it was stated in the first Destiny that cabal had to wear pressurized suits in order to live in our atmosphere so their bodies were completely covered up in D1, however in D2 I guess that idea was scrapped because a lot of the cabal are shown with their skin exposed. Maybe there’s an explanation for why the change occurred in the lore somewhere or Bungie just wanted to change things up because they didn’t like the original idea. I find it interesting regardless.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +11

      @@lejenddairy True, but they still maintained a slight idea to that concept, with headshots resulting in depressurized mini air explosions.

    • @s_cky6872
      @s_cky6872 Před 3 lety +4

      Seeing D1 Cabal (Or any enemy really), they look a LOT more ready for military operations, sporting heavier armor plating. In D2, they seem to have dropped a lot of it for more "symbolic" looking uniforms.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +2

      @@s_cky6872 Merely decorations, compliments of Calus.

  • @razielgrave224
    @razielgrave224 Před 2 lety +4

    Now Saladin is a Valus, pretty sure he'll be a Primus soon.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 2 lety +3

      I wouldn't be surprised if Caiatl arranges for him to be her second in command, as the new Dominus.

    • @razielgrave224
      @razielgrave224 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Moffee Too much baggage with Ghaul to have a new Dominus, imo.

  • @Marine_Animations
    @Marine_Animations Před 3 lety +17

    “Whether we wanted it or not...

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +15

      Whether we wanted it or not, we've been charged with the task of clapping some Caiatl Cabal cheeks to put them in their rightful place, out of our Sol system.

    • @Marine_Animations
      @Marine_Animations Před 3 lety +9

      @@Moffee so let’s get to taking out their champion in the Rite of Proving. Ignovun

  • @tmwamala601
    @tmwamala601 Před rokem

    Bracus = Lieutenant/Lieutenant Commander
    Val = Captain
    Valus = Vice Admiral
    Primus = Admiral
    Dominus = Master or Owner (I think)

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před rokem

      Top to bottom I'd say along the lines of (I'm not claiming to be a military expert, if anyone is familiar with the ranking system is modern military, please correct me):
      Dominus = Military Dictator, perhaps a Commander-in-Chief, if compared to modern day military generals that performs coups.
      Primus = Let's not forget Evocate-General, which can be compared to Fleet Admirals
      Valus = True, since they mostly report to Primuses (Primi?)
      Val = If they report directly to a Valus, wouldn't this make them Rear Admirals, if such a rank would be applied?
      Bracus = Could also be equivalent Captain/Commander. What would be the difference between a Captain and a Lieutenant? (Legitimate question).

  • @LegendaryOG24
    @LegendaryOG24 Před 2 lety +1

    The 2 Cabal Commander Officers Of Ghauls Army I Like From The Red War Campaign Would Of Been Bracus Zahn The Arms Dealer And Thumos The Unbroken.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 2 lety +2

      Thumos, that's speculated to be the leader of the Blood Guards?

    • @LegendaryOG24
      @LegendaryOG24 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Moffee Yeah that's true your right he was also one of Ghauls loyal command officers

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 2 lety +1

      @@LegendaryOG24 His personal blood guards, iirc, yeah

  • @vexen5674
    @vexen5674 Před 3 lety +5

    No ranks if no cabal laughs in gunslinger

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety

      I mean, technically we can rank them in terms of which shot hit them. "I rank the big one number 5, because that's the 5th bullet I shot"

    • @vexen5674
      @vexen5674 Před 3 lety

      @@Moffee Nah I'll just rank em for how annoying asf they were to kill like damn Psions tryna playing ring around the Rosie around a rock/pillar with me.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety

      @@vexen5674 The secret is to just sit still and let them come around to you instead.

    • @vexen5674
      @vexen5674 Před 3 lety

      @@Moffee Easier said than done when you're being fired at by 4 other Psions + Centurions and Calossus'.

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety

      @@vexen5674 they can't shoot you if they're dead, young one.

  • @liamburns5104
    @liamburns5104 Před 2 měsíci

    This is very interesting.

  • @antoniolim762
    @antoniolim762 Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait if we will see a Dominus Saladin....the Future Lore of Destiny is massive and epic...i hope they don't fudge it up...or Saladin dies...someone is quite dying at Witch Queen End...hmmm...wonder who among our NPCs would get GoT'ed :D ?

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 2 lety +1

      Please let it be sweet ol' Eva Levante, she's led a good life, and her death may unite all guardians against the Darkness.

  • @chubby33225
    @chubby33225 Před 3 lety +16

    Ok so ima try to have my clan sub to you ok brother?

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +4

      That would be awesome, thanks, brother

    • @chubby33225
      @chubby33225 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Moffee ok so my friend happy and orb subbed but i have no idea about my clan leader

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 3 lety +3

      That is great to hear, but make sure they're doing it willingly from enjoyment of our content, haha. And thanks a lot!

    • @chubby33225
      @chubby33225 Před 3 lety +2

      I mean my friends say they love it

  • @harambememorialpage
    @harambememorialpage Před 2 lety +1

    I’d rather join the cabal like our iron lord

    • @Moffee
      @Moffee  Před 2 lety +1

      They still haven't given him his Bracchus title, this is appalling, to be honest.

    • @blazeoftherazgrizsquadron9306
      @blazeoftherazgrizsquadron9306 Před 2 lety +1

      Saladin was a Bracus for only about a week before he defeated the Valus on board the Ascendant fleet under Empress Caital and usurped that title. He is now Valus Forge.