This is rlly important. Depending on the pack from my experience. I have packs with all tuned 808s, and some packs where every 808 is tuned different 💀
@@nermhouse general music theory? its pretty common to invert chords, and/or use a diff bass note to add color. dont get mad at me cause you gotta ask an AI to make basic triads for you lmao
It will only work if you use little flimsy shitty ass synths like the one in the video here. Anything more complex harmonically and ableton will trip up for sure.
Yeah... I'm never going to use that, since I'm able to arrange 808s in much more exciting ways than the root note of every chord following the exact rhythm of the chord progression 😂
One time I got a kick, used the EQ8 and boosted the fundamental with the most narrow Q, and it creates a long resonant tail which turns the kick into somewhat of an 808.
i think some beginners just need time to train their ears first. everyone’s missing the point that this isn’t a tip for people who know what they’re doing already.
this is dope af but In feel like its for ppl starting off, most veteran producers would probably hate on this and tell you to learn how to notice if sumn is in or out of key, which isn't a bad idea. But, Once again, i think this is dope af and I will utilize it.
A veteran producer would say that you should absolutely utilize every tool at your availability, especially if it helps your production process. Anyone who would try to say that you shouldn’t do something like this because you need to learn how to tell if it’s in key probably wouldn’t even be a veteran producer, but they would for sure be a veteran dickbag. People who say things like that just do it to try and feel superior to others because they are insecure about their own talent. That isn’t to say you shouldn’t train your ears to know what’s in key and what isn’t, but to purposely handicap yourself by refusing to use tools to make it easier or double check would be foolish.
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@@FearlessBeatzMusic Nah bruh. FL kills. If you can't find the 808 range... Learn music. I'm kidding mostly cause I like both Daws, but don't be proud of having a bad ear. Rule NUMBER 1 in production: Ear first. I wouldn't teach this because these noobs will get used to not using thier ear.
this video is to help people who’s bass notes are out of key. if you know music theory, your bass notes shouldn’t be out of key in the first place, and therefore this video shouldn’t apply to you whatsoever
The reason 808's are out of tune is because most producers just assume every 808 sample is tuned to C and they don't bother checking it and can't hear a 1 semitone difference.
I realised abelton stock sounds and plugins make my mix muddy , but Fl studio sounds great... Am i doing something wrong.. I love abelton don't wanna switch... Can you give some tips
no okay you know it usually does not work that well each time. definitely still just easier to do this manually but a good thought nonetheless if you have a simple and clear recording
@@jackieburkhart3268 I use fl and Ableton and can say, if someone were into fl's workflow they would find Ableton STUPIDLY bad(I did to) and just one feature won't be making anyone switch (I only use Ableton because of the video capabilities)
@@dm12e i have adhd, so fl studio's workflow is extremely messy and convoluted for me whereas i always know where stuff is on ableton because they are laid out in an orderly fashion. and there are a lot of performance gripes too with fl studio that I don't think producers working on lower end hardware would appreciate. like all of the plugins in your project opening at once when you start it.
@@dm12e and there's also that stuff that i have to make a duplicate a midi clip before making changes to it or else that change will be reflected on all the instances of that midi clip, which was the sole thing that made me switch to ableton. in ableton, you just change it and place the midi clip where you need to.
@@jackieburkhart3268 replying to the first reply: I do agree with the the first one. FL studio can get Messy real quick but never really had any problems with that. FL studio is wayyy lighter on my pc (have an old I3 processor) and FL studio stock plugins are kinda better tbh I don't use the stock Ableton plugins that much(Note to add: FL studio is wayyyyy Better at 3rd party plugins and the plugin browser even if slow is very useful if you forget the name [you can do thumbnail plugin saves in fl])
Its the 808 sample itself that needs to be tuned most of times
This is rlly important. Depending on the pack from my experience. I have packs with all tuned 808s, and some packs where every 808 is tuned different 💀
Exactly
get better samples
@@spyynz just tune them
I tried to tune bass/snare drums but they sound way too low pitched when tuned to the key in which the main sample/melody is
I don’t want to use the root note of every chord tho
Move the ones you wanna change then.
then use the 3rd or 5th or something idfk man, if you wanna go against general music theory go ahead
@@nermhouse general music theory? its pretty common to invert chords, and/or use a diff bass note to add color. dont get mad at me cause you gotta ask an AI to make basic triads for you lmao
@@tysallee4217 okay so then don't comment like you're uneducated, cause you can clearly answer your own questions 🥱
You sound like a guy who found out about inverted a week ago and saw yourself like Mozart.
I usually would just pitch the bass notes up an octave or two and just do it by ear. Works every time. Good speakers help also.
same here. you can use this to fact check
my guy just downloaded the Live demo
this is cool if the 808 is in tune lol
It will only work if you use little flimsy shitty ass synths like the one in the video here. Anything more complex harmonically and ableton will trip up for sure.
This is a nice tip, but I prefer using my own creativity instead
This doesn’t mean noncreative, it just a start point. You can start from here, then staccato, octave jump, slide whatever you want.
@@tubeo94 This is a nice tip, but I’m not a bitch and want to actually do the work myself
@@davidr1719 "Work smarter, Not Harder".
@@davidr1719 thats what im sayin
Lmaooooo. So it takes you 20+ to find the right bass notes? 🤣🤣🤣
That ain’t creativity, you just lost my boy 😭😭😭
Yeah... I'm never going to use that, since I'm able to arrange 808s in much more exciting ways than the root note of every chord following the exact rhythm of the chord progression 😂
yeah but having them on the root notes is a great starting point, just sayin'
@@farlandu_wmv fr
I use FL Studio, and their FLEX VST has a bunch of tuned 808s. Shit's wild
what a great plugin❤
One time I got a kick, used the EQ8 and boosted the fundamental with the most narrow Q, and it creates a long resonant tail which turns the kick into somewhat of an 808.
This feature is a great starting point for generating bass note variations.
Use your ears. These methods are okay, but develop sensitivity to which notes to use
Sometimes it doesn't get the right notes but it's useful
Thank you for your service
A fool proof method when you’re using loops or a sample is to just get a piano and add chords over the top 👍🏿
Yea and sound generic as possible
Crazy tip : don’t be tone deaf, and make sure the bass sample ain’t out of tune lol
Except it never works
Ehhh the Ableton midi conversion is not consistent enough for this tip to be a part of my workflow.
Knowing how to put everything in key is what separates the boys from the men in this game.
yeah, that works 80% of 50% of the time
love it
phact bro
i use it all the tyme
thanks to you
Hell ya!
😂😂 I feel attacked. Thanks bro!
You can do that with literally a lot of samples
this is great
Im glad im not tone deaf
Good tip but I wouldn’t quantize it to the grid if it’s already in time with the sample
Why would you do this….When you could just your ears?
i think some beginners just need time to train their ears first. everyone’s missing the point that this isn’t a tip for people who know what they’re doing already.
It's harder to tune with lower notes, I just raise the octave of the 808 to check if it's on key
Mind Blown
Ableton also have a scale midi plugin .
This was a fire tip bro 😎
1. It only works if your 808s are tunes
2. Ur relying on ableton to fix it, it could be wrong
3. Out of key could be what you were looking for
yeah most 808s will already have a pitch bend baked into them so this video is more for 808s that are already tuned
Solid tip and starting point
Came to ableton cause user accessibility with screen reader works
Sounds way better if you just do it by ear honestly
this is dope af but In feel like its for ppl starting off, most veteran producers would probably hate on this and tell you to learn how to notice if sumn is in or out of key, which isn't a bad idea. But, Once again, i think this is dope af and I will utilize it.
A veteran producer would say that you should absolutely utilize every tool at your availability, especially if it helps your production process. Anyone who would try to say that you shouldn’t do something like this because you need to learn how to tell if it’s in key probably wouldn’t even be a veteran producer, but they would for sure be a veteran dickbag. People who say things like that just do it to try and feel superior to others because they are insecure about their own talent. That isn’t to say you shouldn’t train your ears to know what’s in key and what isn’t, but to purposely handicap yourself by refusing to use tools to make it easier or double check would be foolish.
@@sleeeto use your ears
Or…you use a push or and utilize the scale preset
I use x fer serum for 808 you are a underrated.
Not everybody uses Ableton though. 🤷 Although, very useful feature for those who do.
yes, abviously
Nice feature 🔥
very nice trick bro!
omg that beat u were working on was going crazy XD
You can simply tune 808 using tuner
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go by ear
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I like my 808s crisp and out of key
With extra detune
Only god can help you
listen continuously make beats working with root notes at a certain point your ear alone will start hearing if a key is off.
literally
just a heads up its not always accurate it can sometimes show u the wrong notes
Dope tips fearless
Just created this new channel and subscribed to you ASAP! Ableton is super underrated for trap and hip hop but I feel it’s so much more capable and in depth. Thanks again!
Ableton is goat
Half of these problems can be solved by some time and music theory
When you wanna get good tho, FL studio. 😂
more like if you want to downgrade 😂
@@FearlessBeatzMusic Nah bruh. FL kills. If you can't find the 808 range... Learn music. I'm kidding mostly cause I like both Daws, but don't be proud of having a bad ear. Rule NUMBER 1 in production: Ear first. I wouldn't teach this because these noobs will get used to not using thier ear.
@@jarule275 ears are definitely most important, but FL ain't great bro
And then music..... the end.
How you do that with the hi hats
Why you yelling at me bruh?
😂 he doesn’t like your 808s
Someone has NO IDEA what their doing huh? Holy...
Sometimes the 808 out of key is a good thing. But not everything has to be diatonic, especially when somebody is talking about mrder
@kuroki listen to old WuTang. Its clear RZA sometimes didnt tune his 808’s or bass chops to be in key with the samples. That made them grittier.
I’m just gonna keep using my knowledge on music theory, thanks tho
this video is to help people who’s bass notes are out of key. if you know music theory, your bass notes shouldn’t be out of key in the first place, and therefore this video shouldn’t apply to you whatsoever
@@早 who?
@@早 asked?
@@phantomwarrior0313 lmfao
Why did you choose harmonize when melody is an option...
Great now fl studios needs this
Use wavecandy to look at the notes in the waveform, or you can also convert samples to midi in fl
Thank you for the tip but pls stop yelling at me 🥺
FL till I die
you should switch to ableton bro
Nah he wishes he had Ableton
@@beastwithredpill Studio One is better
@@Scars_on_my_nose I have never heard of it to be honest I only mess with Ableton
@@beastwithredpill make video tutorials, Ableton has few but FL has millions
Doing any beat critiques this weekend?
The reason 808's are out of tune is because most producers just assume every 808 sample is tuned to C and they don't bother checking it and can't hear a 1 semitone difference.
THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH
Or just hit keys until you find the ones you like then play them in different patterns
Why do I see a lot of people using Mac’s
if you cant hear the tuning thats on you
Nice
It’s not an ableton issue here. Just read the comment section.
Chill
Is this a feature on the Ableton live intro version?
I realised abelton stock sounds and plugins make my mix muddy , but Fl studio sounds great... Am i doing something wrong.. I love abelton don't wanna switch... Can you give some tips
I am not sure what you mean your going to have to be more specific
no okay you know it usually does not work that well each time. definitely still just easier to do this manually but a good thought nonetheless if you have a simple and clear recording
Thanks
Why don’t you use a DAW for this?
Da goat blessed us wit this tip 🤙
Haha bruh ty didn't know wat that was for
Buuut it’s not always accurate especially with complex harmonies might get funky results
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What kind of ableton version is that
It’s those FL guys man lol
every daw has great and awful producers
I definitely tune my 808s lol but this comes off aggressive af and condescending. Chill out dude
Go cry underneath someone elses video
No click melody
What if I have intro...
Why the tools? Just have to use ears.
Or just tune it with tuner and sampler/simpler
Fire tip
I’m sorry pa 😢
That sounds great until you get to an inverted chord and your bottom notes aren't the root melody.
Idk ableton is jus so intimidating fl is more noob friendly
This is litally the best 808 tutorial. Littaly all there is to it. Just litally follow the steps
the second 808 note is off key
Okay cool..
Jigsaw type beat
On Fl studio lowpass and record it into Edison the convert to score and dump to midi
or better, switch to ableton.
@@jackieburkhart3268 I use fl and Ableton and can say, if someone were into fl's workflow they would find Ableton STUPIDLY bad(I did to) and just one feature won't be making anyone switch (I only use Ableton because of the video capabilities)
@@dm12e i have adhd, so fl studio's workflow is extremely messy and convoluted for me whereas i always know where stuff is on ableton because they are laid out in an orderly fashion. and there are a lot of performance gripes too with fl studio that I don't think producers working on lower end hardware would appreciate. like all of the plugins in your project opening at once when you start it.
@@dm12e and there's also that stuff that i have to make a duplicate a midi clip before making changes to it or else that change will be reflected on all the instances of that midi clip, which was the sole thing that made me switch to ableton. in ableton, you just change it and place the midi clip where you need to.
@@jackieburkhart3268 replying to the first reply: I do agree with the the first one. FL studio can get Messy real quick but never really had any problems with that. FL studio is wayyy lighter on my pc (have an old I3 processor) and FL studio stock plugins are kinda better tbh I don't use the stock Ableton plugins that much(Note to add: FL studio is wayyyyy Better at 3rd party plugins and the plugin browser even if slow is very useful if you forget the name [you can do thumbnail plugin saves in fl])
Burrito?
Why is bro mad