Ep. 72 | Red Dots on Pistols - The More You Know
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2019
- If you only remember one thing from this podcast, it’s probably how good Mike Love, new guest to the podcast and range instructor here at Vortex, sounds with his perfect radio voice. Anyway, in addition to Mike, Adam Maxwell joins Jimmy and Mark to discuss the “Wild West” world of red dots on pistols. With no convenient standard to adhere to like our beloved AR-15’s with their “Mil-Spec” parts, there seems to be about a million and one ways to mount a red dot to your handgun, thoughts on proper technique for their application and opinions on reliability or viability of red dots in competition or duty use. These guys also touch on the history of red dots’ application on pistols and some of the common mistakes people make when transitioning from using the traditional irons to a red dot sight, being such a relatively new technology to most.
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Definitely interested in a plane podcast!
Noted :)
Mirror analogy is the perfect explanation!!
Keep them coming guys!
50:00 I have thought about this with not being able to get off the front of my LPVO and wondered if that would still work.
Thanks for mentioning this little bit actually.
I have the venom 3moa on my edc and love it (This podcast help me decide which one was right for my l application)
Well thanks a lot, I guess I'm ordering the Toro kit for my G3, great pistol btw. This is going to be a nice upgrade along with the Lakeline barrel and compensator, I can't wait.
didn't expect to learn anything much but the idea of low 6 o'clock hold for zero at distance(1:10:00) blew my mind but makes perfect sense, my sig iron sights are meant to cover your target (POA=POI) but I'm always shooting low because I don't want to occlude my target with the front sight.
I prefer iron sights on my EC. Just the red dot gets foggy, Fabric, textile from clothing. Some times even sweat from work.
recently emailed Vortex about which they recommend for the Taurus Raging Hunter 44 mag, they replied Viper. mounted the Viper on said revolver, after every 2 shots the pic rail mount would come loose using the recommended torque for that screw, had to use loctite to keep it from coming loose every 2 shots and losing zero.
This is the perfect podcast for me! I am so glad I subbed a little while ago. My local gun store is a dealer for y'all, and I was eyeing both the venom and the viper. I am leaning towards the venom for my ppq q5 because of the sight window and top loaded battery for steel challenge. Do you guys know if the venom or viper will fit on the delta point pro, rmr or Docter mounting plate that came with the ppq?
Awesome! Glad we had it at just the right time. None of our dots will match up to the Delta Point or RMR plates unfortunately. The Viper and Venom use the same plates as the Docter/Burris Fastfire red dots and we believe some others as well now, too, but those are two of the bigger names to reference.
THE SUN MAKES MY VIPER FLAIR SO RED THAT I CAN'T FIND MY DOT EVEN THE TARGET !
I’d much rather a podcast about planes. Did y’all end up doing that?
I remember the 90's race guns. Very expensive 38 Super's with very short barrel life. I'd be doing practical pistol now if they hadn't banned them here. Should have emigrated at that time!
Yes we need a podcast on cool planes
Why hasn't Vortex came out with motion activated red dots for pistols and rifles?
I predict it eventually turn into a lighted front post like tritium but day bright.
Would a piece of glass with a dot on it do the same thing as a red dot just not as bright?
What about bullseye target shooting? Dot size and aiming point.
Don't bother, you will be far more precise with a scope. I've tested this just recently on my AR. Even at 25 the scope is much more precise. The dot is faster to acquire. Horses for courses 😉
That cost thing. I can tell you that the height of trijicon night sights on the fnx 509 and 45 tactical are the exact same height as trijicon rmr.... if you wanted the easiest methods sometimes that just means sticking with the same manufacturer. But, that mite not mean best cost as obviously that’s a 1200$ pistol and 500$ dot. They know what they are doing and when they get something right that’s the easiest way like just two screws and it’s perfect cowitness they charge. But in my op most cases are that if you just stick with same manufacturer you’ll find easiest way to mix match stuff.
I purchased yesterday a Glock 17 MOS and a Holosun 507cX2 to mount on it. Two of the most common products in the market. And the screws where too long. CMon guys. Cant Glock and Holosun sit and chat with each other to make things easier?
Question: are frame mounted red dots (like the one with the blue mount in the vid) inherently less prone to damage than those that are slide mounted? I always thought adding an optic to a fast reciprocating mass like a slide would put the optic through a lot of unnecessary and potentially damaging motion, kind of like putting a scope on a rifle's bolt. Shouldn't optics ideally be on a fixed format which ensures they move as little as possible?
On Competition Open guns the optic will remain on the Optic Frame mount. In everyday practical use I cannot see the optics ever on an Optic Frame mount versus the slide. Optics on Optic Frame mounts do not receive as much abuse as slide ride optics as observed by the number of optics needing warranty repair on slide ride options in the competition world versus optics seem to be more reliable and less are sent back for warranty when used on a Frame Mount.
Did they ever make the plane podcast?
Question: what's the differences between handgun shaped red dots and one shaped like a tube (like the common SIG Romeo)¿
Size/form factor/shape and a little bit durability. They function identically, but an “Open top” red dot that you see on pistols most of the time has stripped away any bit of the body that is unnecessary to function in order to achieve the smallest possible optic. In doing so, it fits much better on a pistol, occluded your vision much less, but isn’t up to taking quite as much of the beating those little closed emitter red dots can.
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What would you recommend for a sig 17
You need to redo this podcast, now that's its 4 years in the future
What dot size
Where can I get a venom cut G19 slide
Check out JagerWerks for one! Another option would be to get a dovetail mount from www.egwguns.com
Want cool podcast about planes pics of the yak
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I don't get the hype about red dots on pistols I just carry mine with 4x40 scope and cowitness irons...
We throw a Romeo 5 on a .22 pistol. It’s F’ing ridiculous... looks like some Han Solo blaster bs. lol it works and works well. Lol y’all with your new fangled low pro red dots.....
I am still new to guns but what is super annoying as f* about gun stuff especially optics is you need an adapter for f*ing everything. It really gets old fast I am not going to buy this optic sh!t anymore. I spend half my time looking for stupid plates or adapters this sh!t is worse then computer cables.
Blasphemy