To extend a comedic olive branch: Literally any scientist that study ideas that go past consciousness: "How do I explain this weird phenomenon that is in my field but I can't describe using my field?" Physicist: "Just add the word quantum in front of it."
@@malluki17 Jamie got an "A" in physics, so he is not a "person without a background in physics," and thus, he has left the chat because it is not applicable to him.
Code Freelance Yeah, hearing that part stuck out to me as well. Nice to hear that coming from a scientist. And I wonder which philosophers he may have had in mind.
@Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 The entire profession still thinks he's wrong, about "God playing dice with the universe", and basically much of anything he considered late in his career. And, he was fundamentally a physicist.
The idea that physicists should "understand" quantum physics is misguided because it is an invitation to blind speculation. This is why any physicist doesn't want to be called a "Scientist" these days because the word has been coopted by people who are anything but. Most today are directed towards empiricism or as Sean would say "making predictions". The truth is that nobody knows what's "going on", and giving in to the temptation of pretending to know is a path that many physicists have gone down. You see this with Physicists who have gone into political advocacy, trying to leverage their knowledge of Physics into something completely unrelated like nuclear warfare and geopolitics - in fact, they know nothing about the latter. And the truth is that they know nothing about what happens outside their instrumentation and difference thresholds either - and they should not pretend to know. It's not anyone's job to "know". It's their job to "observe and record", and for engineers to apply it to a practical solution.
My best friend cried while we were smoking weed because his girl never knows what she wants to eat 😂😂😂 Edit: he was screaming places to eat while she kept saying "babe I dont want that"
Ya know, you really have to give Joe Rogan an awful lot of credit regardless of what your personal opinion of him is. The guy is an MMA fighter, for crying out loud, and yet he takes the time to read and try to understand and then carry on intelligent conversations with really heavy people about their various disciplines. Imagine if the entire society was like that. Good grief!
I really like Sean. He is one of the absolute best at simplifying very hard concepts, and I appreciate the fact that he has an amazing awareness of how to NOT be boring; he talks quickly, gets somewhere clearly, and moves on. I love listening to him talk about this stuff
@@AbleAnderson His historical perspective is completely wrong. There is literally a mountain of scientific publications about the foundations of quantum mechanics out there. It's not that we haven't tried hard to find out something new about the principles behind it... the simple fact is that we haven't been successful. That is intimately tied to the success of quantum field theory and its great failure to go beyond the standard model, even though it is conventionally not seen that way. Also, his idea that we haven't made a new discovery since the 1970s or 1980s is completely wrong. Like most theorists he seems to be little impressed with neutrino masses. As far as "Gosh, who ordered that????" goes, neutrino masses are the size of a supernova, even if, to the theorist, their incorporation amounts to something like a simple three by three matrix in the standard model.
@@lepidoptera9337 The discovery of neutrino masses is a pretty insignificant result as far as fundamental physics go not because it's mathematically easy to implement but rather because it has no direct bearing on our categorical understanding of space, time, and the nature of measurement. Put another way, it's not philosophically interesting. Also, I think you're just somewhat envious of Sean, lol
@@GiI11 And that is where you are absolutely wrong, kid. Philosophy is bullshit since 500BC. It's practiced by those who can't be bothered to understand physics. Like you, kid. Oh, wait, you don't even know philosophy. You just needed something to cover up your total ignorance. :-)
Me: What funny or interesting video does youtube recommend me tonight? 5 minutes later Me: Oh cool, maybe I'll learn something.. 5 minutes later Me: Nope. a few mouse scrolls to the comment section to see if I can get any more information.. Me: Nope.
@72 degree pyramid technology Suppressed patents He's a head professor for Caltech.... he knows what he's speaking of. How many books have you written on the subject? Or you just going to link absolute bullshit to look at?
These clips are an amazing sample service and honestly help, in getting a quick rindown on his guests. I dont know alot of them but the unknown scientist are often the most interesting to converse with. Definitely gonna go watch the full ep now
sweiland75 maybe a surface or rudimentary level of understanding. I doubt anyone who actively listens to Joe Rogan, or even take the time to comment on CZcams videos fully understands it.
It is fascinating that some people are able to theorise something like Quantum Mechanics, we get taught this in 3rd year at uni and it is confusing enough (in 12 weeks of study) nevermind devoting your whole life to come up with something so intricate as Quantum Physics, its amazing. To pursue science is to pursue knowledge
@@callanc3925 nah, we got taught it in second year, we went into depth in 3rd year, our first year was basically high school level so easy year, we focussed more on Oscillations waves and fields as well as electromagnetism, and 3rd year was quantum physics and thermodynamics (and some math modules, I chose Complex Analysis and Partial Differential Eqns) What about yourself?
@@subhandin3435 Oh fair, yeah our first year was basically highschool although (my memory is a bit faded) I think they introudced the general concept of a wave function and some basic properties like orthogonality and normalisation along with discussing some of the easy to understand experiments like double slit stuff. Second year we got a bit more into particles in boxes and things like tunneling and uncertainty principle then this year we got more into particle physics and perturbation theory as well as applying qm to things like electromagnetism
Crazy how a Physics department punishes someone for taking the learned knowledge, then uses that and applies it to completely other areas of study. That in itself shows a deep understanding of the material. Its the whole "Applied Knowledge" part, and where new innovative discoveries come from. Doing equations means you can follow a recipe. I'd rather have someone come out the end of the education system that can create new recipes rather than follow an existing one.
What’s exciting about humanity now is Joe has always said in his early 20’s he wouldn’t have fathomed nor given a crap about this stuff. I’m 25 since I was in my late teens I’ve been interested in spirituality, physics, Metaphysics, quantum physics, and it seems too be more and more common in this generation from and early age when most men are usually only interested in girls, cars partying
That's part of the problem with these discussions. People who HAVE had an interest in these things all of their lives are being told they're wrong by newcomers who used to be only into girls and partying, and just yesterday learned about the word "quantum" from a scientist who basically said that reality isn't nearly amazing as the new agers make it out to be. Nobody can escape "quantum" level energetic behaviors. We're made of subatomic particles just like everything else, so we are actually "quantum humans", so we have the intrinsic ability to sense these things, and we do it all the time without realizing it. These subatomic interactions are the foundation of all the feelings, emotions, and thoughts we have. It's all about the movement of energy and the atoms and subatomic particles that go with that energy. Scientists ignore the quantum aspects of human beings and instead use tools created by human beings for experimentation. They're ignoring human influence on reality because they just don't believe we have anything to do with it. It's a disbelief problem, probably because their tools haven't shown them the connection yet. But when you accept that your body is a measuring instrument for self-analysis, and that we are not separate from any sort of "quantum behaviors", it opens many new doors for exploration and understanding.
Joe is low key smart af. I like how he knows what questions 2 ask. Like he asks the right ones. This was very fascinating. I can listen2 these 2 all day
its because he, like many of us, got completely duped by it, and since he used to talk so highly of it, hes tryna establish that he dosnt believe in that stuff anymore, he does it with conspiracy theories too.
@@TonyTheSamurai Not so, Joe Rogan is Quantum entangled with it no matter what dimension he will bring it up once the topic of discussion permits. If he doesn't then he will rip a hole into the fabric of space time and we all die. It's all in Sean Carroll's book, chapter 7.
Truth is Joe couldn't hold a candle to any of the speakers featured in that film who actually know what they're talking about. Dean Radin alone would have him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Joe should get up to speed a bit with some sixty symbols videos on CZcams. Great explanations and different perspectives on them so good source to learn about physics and they also have numberphile and computerphile for math and computer science and dr Becky for astro physics.
"Transistors depend on quantum mechanics" - that's misleading at best. Someone chime in here but I believe what he's referring to is we're fast approaching the lower size limit for transistors before quantum mechanics will screw them up and make them unusable (I forget what the term is, but it's like hopping a bridge). So no, traditionally transistors have nothing to do with quantum mechanics, but we've been making them smaller and smaller, and we're at the point where we can't make them any smaller literally because the fabric of the universe won't allow it to work. That's not quite the same as "depending on quantum physics" lol.
Are high? The transistor even the uses of the internet depend on quantum physics. It's the photons involved which allow this possibility and through quantum physics, we have come to understand them and manipulate them. The very essence of modernisation depends on quantum physics
I have a feeling that Tyson would just say, "thats neat, but who cares." He even said something similar to Richard Dawkins about the state of consciousness
There's idiots out there (even in these comments) who think that they know better than the sum total of humanity studying the world for hundreds of years - from Isaac Newton all the way to Einstien and to modern day geniuses.
Sean forgets to tell that this is only his perspective and interpretation of the wave function, and it's not even majoritary in the physicists' community. (A realist approach to the wave function.) but i agree with him.
Yes and what all physicists forget say IS that all they say IS they perspective and interpretation and words....how The Hell "normal" Joe know that what their say or do IS The truth!!!??? Most of IS just we believe that IS so and with this and that we now can proof this and that and The same Time forget that If you wanna something to Be something you just think IT IS and IT start to Be...so everything physics etc.say you allways should think IS this realy truth or IS this something that they need to do or say just becose they realy dont know!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!
@@alfiepicton1339 what's wrong with you dude? Sean says he doesn't like how most pop physicists communicate quantum mechanics and he goes on to do the exact same shit. on his own channel, he explains it better and reminds the listeners that he's talking about HIS view of quantum mechanics. and yes, i have a degree in physics, and no, not from a youtube channel. A physicist who supposes realism to the wave function can't really complain about pop mystical guys like Deepak Choprah failing to communicate qm. have a great haters day.
Neil doesn't like to be challenged. He's afraid people will notice that he is simply repeating textbook knowledge and he fears that they will catch on to the fact that he has no idea what he is talking about.
@@Chicken_Little_Syndrome dude I agree he does not like to be challenged but your some random person on youtube who probably doesn't know hardly anything about physics and Neil is a well know scientists with degrees to back it up
You're right I think the greatest minds in quantum physics need some assistace with either DMT, mushrooms or LSD....expanding their mind beyond Normal thought process.
@@jorgepeterbarton Assuming I passed my exam a few days ago im going to be graduating with a physics degree in a couple months and I smoke weed and drink often, have taken shrooms, ket and mdma. And can assure you many others that Ive met (even the ones smarter than me) have at least tried drugs also
Hi, Joe. Watched you’re podcast with the quantum mechanics author, and thought I’d put in my two cents, since the chagrin on your face was so familiar. Not that I really think you need a good example, but I thought a “blue-collar” analogy would make it easier to get (as much as I get it, anyway). So you’re about to change the tire of your car. As you’re standing looking at the lug nuts and which one to start loosening first, you (possibly) think of the pattern of loosening (often loosening the nuts in opposition - the top one, then the bottom one, left, right, etc). As you imagine which one to loosen, you actually change the position of the point you will loosen just by thinking about it (observing it), and the notion gets clearer when you imagine loosening a nut on the opposite tire (say both back tires), in which case everything you’ve been imagining about the nut on on the first tire, gets flipped (left is now right, right is now left, and the vertical position of the second nut, though almost exactly the same height as the first nut, has now been moved one (meter) away. And this is simply by your observing the position of the first nut and imagining the position of the second nut (to get a tactile, physiological bead on what this shit might really mean or how it happens, on some level, the change of position attributed to the object/s observed has everything to do with mass. Specifically with positive ions (our heartbeats are sensed, the actual beat sending ripples of ionic energy through space-time, over 1.5 miles away, by anyone in the vicinity whether they know it or not as their sympathetic nervous system picks it up. There are dust particles and dead cells from Australia in your house you’ve sucked up. And if you have a good voice, with strong tamber, or characteristic resonant frequencies, and expansive qualities, you have a voice that emits a dominant, focused, and/or unconstrained amount of positive ions - actual weight and mass, i.e., the famed “hundred pound shout”). And in all of these you have examples of just how quantum quantum mechanics might work on the optical level (via reception theory and the optic chiasmus) and arrive from there at a basic notion of a “Parallel Universe” where things are nearly identical in appearance, but not quite. So your very presence in its totality, including the mass emitted or received with any action you make, even mere perception with the five senses, changes the object thus reflected on (early Ionian Greeks, as seen in their sculptures, had positive-shaped eyes with no pupils and believed that light came out of them and illuminated the world - which is true at least in the degree that it is not a constructed reality, but a reflection of the world, and light, around us). Not sure if this will help. But my dad and I often remarked on the anomalies of quantum mechanics when building houses - for instance, determining plum. So much of determining plum is really about classical quantum mechanics (Solomon Stone), in that the fixed point you seek to determine and “stake” in space-time, is entirely arbitrary and depends on where you are standing in relation to what’s around you, and will change almost immediately and entirely just by looking to a different imagined point to “stake” - a foot over here, or 25 yards over there (since as we stand on this spinning, wobbling, orbiting, round rock of a planet attempting to “stake” a point that is perfectly perpendicular to an imagined horizontal plane on a round surface which is moving through space-time, and which extends infinitely into space - WTF!). Quantum mechanics is really an attempt to order chaos in space, but has problems with notions of time (or we have problems with time and it messes with our ability to perceive what’s quantum - the “God” particle, or Higgs Boson Particle, is possibly a discovery that will help our ability to locate quantum spaces/actions, in time: including time-travel and telekinesis). I often think of the book by Mircea Eliade titled, The Myth of the Eternal Return, which is about early northern European (Norse) mythology and the sacred aspects of building in relation to early places of worship. The corner stone, or the cap stone, of early temples and homes with cellars, were often marked with a smaller stone that had a snake carved or painted on it, and the act of establishing that corner (plum and square to the chaos of infinite space) was considered “staking chaos” or pinning evil down, often found under altars signifying the order created and ascribed to godliness. Later
Whomever is reading this remember to spread as much LOVE AS POSSIBLE, don't litter, help out the homeless and take of nature please it's really important we gotta take care of eachother and mother earth. thank you and have a blessed life ❤
A lovely sentiment, sir, and one I need to hear at the moment having been stuck in traffic for the past two hours. I shall try to exercise the content of your message as I suppress the desire to drive my honda onto the sidewalk. Does it still apply if I shout 'I love you' at the top of my lungs out of my window while driving through pedestrians?
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that we haven't had a 'wow' moment in theoretical physics since the 70's but have had all these breakthroughs in experimental physics. We have just been trying to prove all those theories through the experiments and now we have solved a lot of them there is a need for more theories to put to experiment. So thats why quantum physics is starting to come to the front of theoretical physics and then the experiments can start again, like as he mentioned with the quantum computing.
He's really not. Hollywood has a plethora of highly educate people. Ken Jeong used to be a doctor, Rowan Atkinson has a masters in Electrical Engineering, Mayim Bialik is a literal neuroscientist, Brian May from Queen has a doctorate in astrophysics, James Franco has a masters in Fine Arts, Dolph Lungren has a masters in Engineering, David Duchovny has a masters in english literature from Yale. Comparatively, Joe has fumbled through the "Dummy's Guide To.." books.
Love it when the American patriotism takes over at 5:00 - “You know a lot of it was the center of physics shifted from Europe to the US. And Europe is more philosophical, where as the US is more practical and wanna build things. Especially at the time because the US wanted to build nuclear weapons”.. what really happened was that the US imported top physicists from Europe after WW2 to achieve this goal, which they did. Everything major was invented on American soil by Europeans or already discovered by Europeans earlier..
@Bob Bobbity “look we have to understand nuclear physics and particle physics...” goes on to talk about what I mentioned in the first comment. Sounds nuclear to me :D
I discovered the 4th spatial dimension and founding spatial property. It was inspired by an interesting JRE clip and quantum theory experiments in Objective Reality at a sub atomic level. Emailed you Dr. Sean Carroll, my corroborator and i would love to talk with you about it! #4Dreality
@@wessonsmithjr.6257 yeh if you hallucinate actually climbing into the book and the words start talking to you in an alien language telling you you are the universe is literally "getting into" the book---without 'reading it'
I want this guy to debate Neil D Tyson about gravity. He's saying the same thing about quantum mechanics that NDT was saying about gravity, with regards to how it is used and how much we really understand, except this guy is humble enough to admit that science doesn't truly understand how QM works, despite using the hell out of it to advance humans technologically. He's validating Joe's curiosity about the why that NDT poopooed all over
I heard a great quote a few weeks ago (paraphrasing here)...people's minds do not typically change...paradigms shift because those people die off, and are replaced with new minds that can view the world without the burden of entrenched prejudices.
I don't think you should hit what the bleep too much. It makes you ask questions and it's part of what got me interested in quantum mechanics. Ended up doing a degree in physics.
There is a documentary with a physicist women that explain quantum physics. That woman must be the smartest woman on earth. She took something extremely difficult to understand and made it easier to do so for ordinary people. Sadly i cannot remember the name of the documentary :/
"Joe Rogan | What Everyone Gets Wrong About Quantum Physics w/Sean Carroll" its about what many get wrong about it, not what it is. If you want to kno more about it, you are already on the internet!
stuff falls down. OR time gets bendy OR 'its irrelevant to quantum physics' OR in some potentially impossible state we could never make quantum and gravity don't work together so we're wrong. So lets invent loads of math for that eventuality. Works on many levels...only really the latter we don't know about but its not that they are struggling to know about it: its much worse-- they struggle to invent the scenario where they wouldn't understand it...
Hollywood: "how do i explain this weird phenomenon in sci fi movies"
Writer: "just add the word quantum in front of it"
😂 that's exactly what a lot of new scammers do. People are so easy to fool.
"Quantum Healing"
@@rossmanmagnus they just don't give a shit and just want to make money.
To extend a comedic olive branch:
Literally any scientist that study ideas that go past consciousness: "How do I explain this weird phenomenon that is in my field but I can't describe using my field?"
Physicist: "Just add the word quantum in front of it."
Kenny Mos preach
"For people without a background in physics"
- Jamie has left the chat
Dude...he got an A.
I don't get it
@@James-yi1vk
That's why Jamie left the chat, because he got an "A" in physics, so he is not a person "without a background in physics."
@@malluki17
Jamie got an "A" in physics, so he is not a "person without a background in physics," and thus, he has left the chat because it is not applicable to him.
@@francmittelo6731 Goddamn, thank you for the perfect explanation👍
Dude has the perfect voice for a Simpsons character.
omg yes
face too!
Reverend Lovejoy (ironically enough)
They can do e.g. 3 ep. special trying to explain a wee bit of his book through humor and cartoon. =)
He literally looks like a Simpson character as well
Joe “can a quantum mechanic fix my Tesla” Rogan
Underrated
That cracked me up ha.
Haaa
A quantum mechanic would be too small to hold any tools!
That joke died in 2017 let it rest
This dude looks like the priest from the beginning of scary movie 2
You mean James Woods?
No the scum bag in casino
Matthew Smith yes lol
He looks like phillip defranco in 20 years
Those enchiladas...
Glad to see Sean back, he’s one of my favorites of the scientist guests
Joe "can a quantum mechanic smoke dmt?" Rogan
Joe "I pretend to be dumb to make an awesome living" Rogan.
@@Chicken_Little_Syndrome I don't think he pretends
KaBoom..."philosophers have been taking quantum mechanics seriously longer than other physicists have."
Code Freelance Yeah, hearing that part stuck out to me as well. Nice to hear that coming from a scientist.
And I wonder which philosophers he may have had in mind.
@Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 The entire profession still thinks he's wrong, about "God playing dice with the universe", and basically much of anything he considered late in his career. And, he was fundamentally a physicist.
@@pieterwessels2855 you may be interested in the work of Gilles Deleuze!
@Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 A man named Boscovich is the guy you are looking for, not Einstein.
@@squirlmy That quote is well known as being said in a burst of rage in a debate, not to be taken literally
Quantum Physics for people who don't want to get interrupted
Ur tooo foull!
I apologize. I should not have brought such negativity.
LOOOOOL
The idea that physicists should "understand" quantum physics is misguided because it is an invitation to blind speculation. This is why any physicist doesn't want to be called a "Scientist" these days because the word has been coopted by people who are anything but. Most today are directed towards empiricism or as Sean would say "making predictions". The truth is that nobody knows what's "going on", and giving in to the temptation of pretending to know is a path that many physicists have gone down. You see this with Physicists who have gone into political advocacy, trying to leverage their knowledge of Physics into something completely unrelated like nuclear warfare and geopolitics - in fact, they know nothing about the latter. And the truth is that they know nothing about what happens outside their instrumentation and difference thresholds either - and they should not pretend to know. It's not anyone's job to "know". It's their job to "observe and record", and for engineers to apply it to a practical solution.
@Shadow Man nobody says cuck unironically. you sound like a fucking virgin.
*If you are so smart give my girl the answer to her question of where she wants to eat*
Good luck with that. No one has the answer bro. It's a mystery.
Bob Last impossible
My best friend cried while we were smoking weed because his girl never knows what she wants to eat 😂😂😂
Edit: he was screaming places to eat while she kept saying "babe I dont want that"
Thats what we call a paradox, impossible to really solve
Tell her you know where to go but she has to guess first. Then say you got it and go to wherever she guessed
am i crazy or does sean carroll look a lot like james woods when he was younger.
The family guy drawing of him lol
Nah, I agree.
Sounds like him too tbh
You're crazy 😉 Woods has bigger nose and lips
You people need some fucking glasses. Woods looks nothing like this guy. I like them both.
Joe "i know words like RAM" Rogan
Joe RAM Rogan
Ram=random access memory.
Dead meme
Ya know, you really have to give Joe Rogan an awful lot of credit regardless of what your personal opinion of him is. The guy is an MMA fighter, for crying out loud, and yet he takes the time to read and try to understand and then carry on intelligent conversations with really heavy people about their various disciplines. Imagine if the entire society was like that. Good grief!
He's a good guy for sure, always been
Great observation
Thanks to drugs
Because of or despite?
@@CSUnger you got the point smarty pants
I really like Sean. He is one of the absolute best at simplifying very hard concepts, and I appreciate the fact that he has an amazing awareness of how to NOT be boring; he talks quickly, gets somewhere clearly, and moves on. I love listening to him talk about this stuff
Check out Brian Greene too
It's just too bad that he is selling you total bullshit, isn't it?
@@AbleAnderson His historical perspective is completely wrong. There is literally a mountain of scientific publications about the foundations of quantum mechanics out there. It's not that we haven't tried hard to find out something new about the principles behind it... the simple fact is that we haven't been successful. That is intimately tied to the success of quantum field theory and its great failure to go beyond the standard model, even though it is conventionally not seen that way. Also, his idea that we haven't made a new discovery since the 1970s or 1980s is completely wrong. Like most theorists he seems to be little impressed with neutrino masses. As far as "Gosh, who ordered that????" goes, neutrino masses are the size of a supernova, even if, to the theorist, their incorporation amounts to something like a simple three by three matrix in the standard model.
@@lepidoptera9337 The discovery of neutrino masses is a pretty insignificant result as far as fundamental physics go not because it's mathematically easy to implement but rather because it has no direct bearing on our categorical understanding of space, time, and the nature of measurement. Put another way, it's not philosophically interesting. Also, I think you're just somewhat envious of Sean, lol
@@GiI11 And that is where you are absolutely wrong, kid.
Philosophy is bullshit since 500BC. It's practiced by those who can't be bothered to understand physics. Like you, kid. Oh, wait, you don't even know philosophy. You just needed something to cover up your total ignorance. :-)
Me: What funny or interesting video does youtube recommend me tonight?
5 minutes later
Me: Oh cool, maybe I'll learn something..
5 minutes later
Me: Nope.
a few mouse scrolls to the comment section to see if I can get any more information..
Me: Nope.
If nothing else, you made me laugh a lot at that comment 🤣
@72 degree pyramid technology Suppressed patents He's a head professor for Caltech.... he knows what he's speaking of. How many books have you written on the subject? Or you just going to link absolute bullshit to look at?
This man is the best - he breaks downs the most complex thing we have into something that a normal brain like me can understand slightly
Please tell me what everyone gets wrong about quantum physics bc when I woke up this morning I was like damn what am I getting wrong here
Who’s still watching in 2024? I miss these days!!!
“Saaaaaam, Ziggy says there a 95% chance that this guy will never explain quantum physics to Joe”
Oh boy.
These clips are an amazing sample service and honestly help, in getting a quick rindown on his guests. I dont know alot of them but the unknown scientist are often the most interesting to converse with. Definitely gonna go watch the full ep now
"If you think you understand quantum mechanics, then you don't." - Richard Feynman
sweiland75 I do
Sounds like something I would say if I was pissed off at someone who thought they knew it.
@@panama1942 *Feynman had more quantum mechanics knowledge in his foreskin than all us CZcams commenters combined.*
Omega - oh ye course you do.
sweiland75 maybe a surface or rudimentary level of understanding. I doubt anyone who actively listens to Joe Rogan, or even take the time to comment on CZcams videos fully understands it.
It is fascinating that some people are able to theorise something like Quantum Mechanics, we get taught this in 3rd year at uni and it is confusing enough (in 12 weeks of study) nevermind devoting your whole life to come up with something so intricate as Quantum Physics, its amazing.
To pursue science is to pursue knowledge
Shut up nerd
you guys only get taught at 3rd year? We got some basics in first year and got more in depth by second year
@@ashtontaylor2827 smell yer maw ya tosspot
@@callanc3925 nah, we got taught it in second year, we went into depth in 3rd year, our first year was basically high school level so easy year, we focussed more on Oscillations waves and fields as well as electromagnetism, and 3rd year was quantum physics and thermodynamics (and some math modules, I chose Complex Analysis and Partial Differential Eqns)
What about yourself?
@@subhandin3435 Oh fair, yeah our first year was basically highschool although (my memory is a bit faded) I think they introudced the general concept of a wave function and some basic properties like orthogonality and normalisation along with discussing some of the easy to understand experiments like double slit stuff. Second year we got a bit more into particles in boxes and things like tunneling and uncertainty principle then this year we got more into particle physics and perturbation theory as well as applying qm to things like electromagnetism
Crazy how a Physics department punishes someone for taking the learned knowledge, then uses that and applies it to completely other areas of study. That in itself shows a deep understanding of the material. Its the whole "Applied Knowledge" part, and where new innovative discoveries come from. Doing equations means you can follow a recipe. I'd rather have someone come out the end of the education system that can create new recipes rather than follow an existing one.
So you are into cooking? OK.
What’s exciting about humanity now is Joe has always said in his early 20’s he wouldn’t have fathomed nor given a crap about this stuff. I’m 25 since I was in my late teens I’ve been interested in spirituality, physics, Metaphysics, quantum physics, and it seems too be more and more common in this generation from and early age when most men are usually only interested in girls, cars partying
That's part of the problem with these discussions. People who HAVE had an interest in these things all of their lives are being told they're wrong by newcomers who used to be only into girls and partying, and just yesterday learned about the word "quantum" from a scientist who basically said that reality isn't nearly amazing as the new agers make it out to be.
Nobody can escape "quantum" level energetic behaviors. We're made of subatomic particles just like everything else, so we are actually "quantum humans", so we have the intrinsic ability to sense these things, and we do it all the time without realizing it. These subatomic interactions are the foundation of all the feelings, emotions, and thoughts we have. It's all about the movement of energy and the atoms and subatomic particles that go with that energy.
Scientists ignore the quantum aspects of human beings and instead use tools created by human beings for experimentation. They're ignoring human influence on reality because they just don't believe we have anything to do with it. It's a disbelief problem, probably because their tools haven't shown them the connection yet. But when you accept that your body is a measuring instrument for self-analysis, and that we are not separate from any sort of "quantum behaviors", it opens many new doors for exploration and understanding.
What everyone gets wrong about quantum physics...
EVERYTHING!!!
Joe “I Can Read” Roe
Joe roe? Lol
@@nate8622 it is a relative of Jogan Rogan
I got this comment to 101 likes and it was so satisfying. Quantum satisfaction!
Joe is low key smart af. I like how he knows what questions 2 ask. Like he asks the right ones. This was very fascinating. I can listen2 these 2 all day
2 gay 5 me
Joe is great for a host because he's like the halfway point between a layman and an expert.
@@SobeCrunkMonster how is he gay?
Joe, Totally enjoying your teams work from Lazar to now quantum. I’m ma chimp but I keep bingeing on your all’s work. Keep going.
3:30 Hence the name, “cookbook physics.” A few people have won Nobel prizes with it too.
Is it possible for quantum physics to come up and Joe not to mention What The Bleep Do We Know?
its because he, like many of us, got completely duped by it, and since he used to talk so highly of it, hes tryna establish that he dosnt believe in that stuff anymore, he does it with conspiracy theories too.
He should bring it up. Too many people believe it has merit.
In this reality it has already happened, it is possible in a parallel reality that quantum physics came up and Joe did not mention What The Bleep
@@TonyTheSamurai Not so, Joe Rogan is Quantum entangled with it no matter what dimension he will bring it up once the topic of discussion permits. If he doesn't then he will rip a hole into the fabric of space time and we all die.
It's all in Sean Carroll's book, chapter 7.
Truth is Joe couldn't hold a candle to any of the speakers featured in that film who actually know what they're talking about. Dean Radin alone would have him for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Is there a full version of this podcast anywhere?
Joe should get up to speed a bit with some sixty symbols videos on CZcams. Great explanations and different perspectives on them so good source to learn about physics and they also have numberphile and computerphile for math and computer science and dr Becky for astro physics.
Joe amazes me how well he can interview Carroll...
"Transistors depend on quantum mechanics" - that's misleading at best. Someone chime in here but I believe what he's referring to is we're fast approaching the lower size limit for transistors before quantum mechanics will screw them up and make them unusable (I forget what the term is, but it's like hopping a bridge). So no, traditionally transistors have nothing to do with quantum mechanics, but we've been making them smaller and smaller, and we're at the point where we can't make them any smaller literally because the fabric of the universe won't allow it to work. That's not quite the same as "depending on quantum physics" lol.
^^^^
Moore's law.
I think he means the electrons that the transistor relies on do themselves rely on quantum mechanics
Are high? The transistor even the uses of the internet depend on quantum physics. It's the photons involved which allow this possibility and through quantum physics, we have come to understand them and manipulate them. The very essence of modernisation depends on quantum physics
Neil deGrasse Tyson wants to fight this guy now.
I have a feeling that Tyson would just say, "thats neat, but who cares." He even said something similar to Richard Dawkins about the state of consciousness
did grug grogan have this guy on specifically because he was disappointed by tyson the other week?
Tyson is kind of an insecure pompous jerk.
Fuck that guy
There are videos of Neal and Sean discussing things.
Is the full podcast available? Can’t find it on CZcams
So... what does everyone get wrong about quantum physics?
Everything or nothing,nobody knows.
They get it right and wrong at the same time.
Impossible to tell at any given time
ghost walk
What the bleep was bs. That’s what everyone gets wrong about quantum physics.
That somehow a literal cat is involved.
Everything is terrifying for joe😂😂
Joe himself is terrifying.
Not only quantum mechanics, we do not understand anything about reality if we ask deeper questions.
Attitude: like we don’t know what “consciousness” is.
Has Joe Rogan had a profound experience on his show? Now that would be legendary.
Yeah Alex Jones
Some things can only be dumbed down so much or simplified to a certain degree. Having said that I kind of get it 😂
I’m bathing in dmt right now
I'm jealous
Why would anyone dislike these videos? People speaking with an open mind in a respectable discussion.
There's idiots out there (even in these comments) who think that they know better than the sum total of humanity studying the world for hundreds of years - from Isaac Newton all the way to Einstien and to modern day geniuses.
Sean forgets to tell that this is only his perspective and interpretation of the wave function, and it's not even majoritary in the physicists' community. (A realist approach to the wave function.)
but i agree with him.
"I'm smart" comment
Yes and what all physicists forget say IS that all they say IS they perspective and interpretation and words....how The Hell "normal" Joe know that what their say or do IS The truth!!!??? Most of IS just we believe that IS so and with this and that we now can proof this and that and The same Time forget that If you wanna something to Be something you just think IT IS and IT start to Be...so everything physics etc.say you allways should think IS this realy truth or IS this something that they need to do or say just becose they realy dont know!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah thank you. Did you get your degree from you tube university? or go through a you tube apprenticeship program?
@@alfiepicton1339 what's wrong with you dude?
Sean says he doesn't like how most pop physicists communicate quantum mechanics and he goes on to do the exact same shit. on his own channel, he explains it better and reminds the listeners that he's talking about HIS view of quantum mechanics.
and yes, i have a degree in physics,
and no, not from a youtube channel.
A physicist who supposes realism to the wave function can't really complain about pop mystical guys like Deepak Choprah failing to communicate qm.
have a great haters day.
@@eduardoabreu78 I certainly will!
For some reason Neil Degrass Tyson getting angry at Joe's questions popped in my head while watching this
Neil: Science understands quantum mechanics! look at all the things we do with it! stop asking questions because it's a waste of time.
Neil the shill
Neil doesn't like to be challenged. He's afraid people will notice that he is simply repeating textbook knowledge and he fears that they will catch on to the fact that he has no idea what he is talking about.
@@Chicken_Little_Syndrome dude I agree he does not like to be challenged but your some random person on youtube who probably doesn't know hardly anything about physics and Neil is a well know scientists with degrees to back it up
@@alfiepicton1339 why he doesn't like to be challenged? You guys are talking about a specific joe's interview or what?
They should try DMT to unstuck our progress in quantum physics
You're right I think the greatest minds in quantum physics need some assistace with either DMT, mushrooms or LSD....expanding
their mind beyond Normal thought process.
@@Jonny-rc4wh I'm sure no physicist or science has ever taken a drug.
@@jorgepeterbarton Assuming I passed my exam a few days ago im going to be graduating with a physics degree in a couple months and I smoke weed and drink often, have taken shrooms, ket and mdma. And can assure you many others that Ive met (even the ones smarter than me) have at least tried drugs also
What episode is this I can’t find it
What book is he talking about in the beginning? I'd like to get it.
I believe it's callee: Something Deeply Hidden.
6:44. Joe "Woah" Rogan surprised about last discovery in the 70s
It only took me four books to understand what QM even implies. I still don't understand it. But it's just so weird, I can't quit hearing about it.
Can you put a brief bio of the guest in video description
Sean Carrol-physicist lol
Awesome Video
Reason it's so hard to explain is because the people that are explaining it dont fully understand it.
1:27 That head nod and frown just screams Elon
So true
Great conversation, thanks for this
Sean has become one of my favorite public intellectuals. I also love the fact that he’s close with Dr David Albert from “What The Bleep” 👍
Recently read his book, definitely not a breezy page turner lol. It was an exercise in being disciplined enough to finish a book.
For someone like me who studied mathematics in college and who graduated with a very poor cgpa it was definitely not breezy page turner at all.
what's the name of the book please
@@Jp-gd3jy Months late but the book's name is "Something Deeply Hidden"
A person attempting to understand quantum mechanics is kind of like a thought attempting to think. Or... “it’s like trying to bite your own teeth”
And a person attempting to understand this comment is kind of like a person attempting to understand quantum mechanics
Cause it's the explaining of the science of ourselves
My dyslexic ass brain just really wants to make his name Steve Carell
Hi,
Joe. Watched you’re podcast with the quantum mechanics author, and thought I’d put in my two cents, since the chagrin on your face was so familiar. Not that I really think you need a good example, but I thought a “blue-collar” analogy would make it easier to get (as much as I get it, anyway).
So you’re about to change the tire of your car. As you’re standing looking at the lug nuts and which one to start loosening first, you (possibly) think of the pattern of loosening (often loosening the nuts in opposition - the top one, then the bottom one, left, right, etc). As you imagine which one to loosen, you actually change the position of the point you will loosen just by thinking about it (observing it), and the notion gets clearer when you imagine loosening a nut on the opposite tire (say both back tires), in which case everything you’ve been imagining about the nut on on the first tire, gets flipped (left is now right, right is now left, and the vertical position of the second nut, though almost exactly the same height as the first nut, has now been moved one (meter) away.
And this is simply by your observing the position of the first nut and imagining the position of the second nut (to get a tactile, physiological bead on what this shit might really mean or how it happens, on some level, the change of position attributed to the object/s observed has everything to do with mass. Specifically with positive ions (our heartbeats are sensed, the actual beat sending ripples of ionic energy through space-time, over 1.5 miles away, by anyone in the vicinity whether they know it or not as their sympathetic nervous system picks it up. There are dust particles and dead cells from Australia in your house you’ve sucked up. And if you have a good voice, with strong tamber, or characteristic resonant frequencies, and expansive qualities, you have a voice that emits a dominant, focused, and/or unconstrained amount of positive ions - actual weight and mass, i.e., the famed “hundred pound shout”). And in all of these you have examples of just how quantum quantum mechanics might work on the optical level (via reception theory and the optic chiasmus) and arrive from there at a basic notion of a “Parallel Universe” where things are nearly identical in appearance, but not quite. So your very presence in its totality, including the mass emitted or received with any action you make, even mere perception with the five senses, changes the object thus reflected on (early Ionian Greeks, as seen in their sculptures, had positive-shaped eyes with no pupils and believed that light came out of them and illuminated the world - which is true at least in the degree that it is not a constructed reality, but a reflection of the world, and light, around us).
Not sure if this will help. But my dad and I often remarked on the anomalies of quantum mechanics when building houses - for instance, determining plum. So much of determining plum is really about classical quantum mechanics (Solomon Stone), in that the fixed point you seek to determine and “stake” in space-time, is entirely arbitrary and depends on where you are standing in relation to what’s around you, and will change almost immediately and entirely just by looking to a different imagined point to “stake” - a foot over here, or 25 yards over there (since as we stand on this spinning, wobbling, orbiting, round rock of a planet attempting to “stake” a point that is perfectly perpendicular to an imagined horizontal plane on a round surface which is moving through space-time, and which extends infinitely into space - WTF!).
Quantum mechanics is really an attempt to order chaos in space, but has problems with notions of time (or we have problems with time and it messes with our ability to perceive what’s quantum - the “God” particle, or Higgs Boson Particle, is possibly a discovery that will help our ability to locate quantum spaces/actions, in time: including time-travel and telekinesis). I often think of the book by Mircea Eliade titled, The Myth of the Eternal Return, which is about early northern European (Norse) mythology and the sacred aspects of building in relation to early places of worship. The corner stone, or the cap stone, of early temples and homes with cellars, were often marked with a smaller stone that had a snake carved or painted on it, and the act of establishing that corner (plum and square to the chaos of infinite space) was considered “staking chaos” or pinning evil down, often found under altars signifying the order created and ascribed to godliness.
Later
Whomever is reading this remember to spread as much LOVE AS POSSIBLE, don't litter, help out the homeless and take of nature please it's really important we gotta take care of eachother and mother earth. thank you and have a blessed life ❤
Love might very well be the answer. Be patient and loving to yourself and the people you want to show love. Good for you.
A lovely sentiment, sir, and one I need to hear at the moment having been stuck in traffic for the past two hours. I shall try to exercise the content of your message as I suppress the desire to drive my honda onto the sidewalk. Does it still apply if I shout 'I love you' at the top of my lungs out of my window while driving through pedestrians?
Then Star Trek Next Generation makes a bad episode with Will Wheaton.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say that we haven't had a 'wow' moment in theoretical physics since the 70's but have had all these breakthroughs in experimental physics.
We have just been trying to prove all those theories through the experiments and now we have solved a lot of them there is a need for more theories to put to experiment. So thats why quantum physics is starting to come to the front of theoretical physics and then the experiments can start again, like as he mentioned with the quantum computing.
But it is still like learning to work a computer.
Does anyone know what Sean's shirt says? I can't quite tell and I'm losing my mind trying to figure it out.
Nope
Not a fuckin clue
I thiiiiink it says “Cemetee”
A brief History of Time from Stephen Hawking is another good book most people can understand.
Outdated already.
Joe is quite possibly the most intelligent person with a Hollywood presence
He's really not. Hollywood has a plethora of highly educate people. Ken Jeong used to be a doctor, Rowan Atkinson has a masters in Electrical Engineering, Mayim Bialik is a literal neuroscientist, Brian May from Queen has a doctorate in astrophysics, James Franco has a masters in Fine Arts, Dolph Lungren has a masters in Engineering, David Duchovny has a masters in english literature from Yale.
Comparatively, Joe has fumbled through the "Dummy's Guide To.." books.
That skittles ad was frightening lol! I love it
Very thought provoking wow
0:17 something you shouldn’t say to an author about their book
Love it when the American patriotism takes over at 5:00 - “You know a lot of it was the center of physics shifted from Europe to the US. And Europe is more philosophical, where as the US is more practical and wanna build things. Especially at the time because the US wanted to build nuclear weapons”.. what really happened was that the US imported top physicists from Europe after WW2 to achieve this goal, which they did. Everything major was invented on American soil by Europeans or already discovered by Europeans earlier..
@Bob Bobbity “look we have to understand nuclear physics and particle physics...” goes on to talk about what I mentioned in the first comment. Sounds nuclear to me :D
Right the US is built on immigrants. Welcome to US 101 lol. They’re not Europeans anymore, they’re American.
What is the name of his book?
The Secret
@@DeepThinkingGPU LOL
💙Yes Sir! 💜We are interested in what reality is doing, how we all work, what the World is doing💚 🌞🌞🌞
I discovered the 4th spatial dimension and founding spatial property. It was inspired by an interesting JRE clip and quantum theory experiments in Objective Reality at a sub atomic level. Emailed you Dr. Sean Carroll, my corroborator and i would love to talk with you about it! #4Dreality
Omg, that makes sense. Like how very far away particle can behave synchronized in a instant.
But but but JAMIE GOT an A in physics class. Maybe he should talk to jamie instead of JOE
Joe " over the weekend i got into your book" Rogan
Being stoned and staring at the cover for 4 hrs doesn't count:)
@@wessonsmithjr.6257 yeh if you hallucinate actually climbing into the book and the words start talking to you in an alien language telling you you are the universe is literally "getting into" the book---without 'reading it'
Uses my smartphone to Google how smartphones work🤯
Next time I get a fine from police, I'll tell them our laws don't apply to quantum physics.
I'm a little ashamed at how much this made me laugh
I want this guy to debate Neil D Tyson about gravity. He's saying the same thing about quantum mechanics that NDT was saying about gravity, with regards to how it is used and how much we really understand, except this guy is humble enough to admit that science doesn't truly understand how QM works, despite using the hell out of it to advance humans technologically. He's validating Joe's curiosity about the why that NDT poopooed all over
Well, Einstein was smart enough to realize he did not understand what “gravity” is. He did know it is not “like” magnetism.
@@johnschuh8616 He understood it better than everyone also though. I mean it is his theory that people are using to this day!
What's his book called?
Something Deeply Hidden
The word scientist used when finding something is not "eureka" but , " wait, that's funny"
I fell asleep in the first 90 seconds. Thank you Mr. Rogan. I suffer from very bad insomnia.
You didn't sleep long, guess you still do.
Quantum physics is anything can happen when it wants to happen
I heard a great quote a few weeks ago (paraphrasing here)...people's minds do not typically change...paradigms shift because those people die off, and are replaced with new minds that can view the world without the burden of entrenched prejudices.
Not so simple. People die off and their knowledge dies with them.
I don't think you should hit what the bleep too much. It makes you ask questions and it's part of what got me interested in quantum mechanics. Ended up doing a degree in physics.
Quantum physics are cool but have you ever used a hadron collider to smoke DMT?
DMT is quantum weed.
Joe “i read your book” rogan
Nima arkani hamed, Michelle Thaler and kaku. Nima has great lectures but you need to watch em in increments
There is a documentary with a physicist women that explain quantum physics. That woman must be the smartest woman on earth. She took something extremely difficult to understand and made it easier to do so for ordinary people. Sadly i cannot remember the name of the documentary :/
Did you ever figure it out?
@@Malitubee no, and now it's so long ago, it will be a even bigger challenge
Ohhh that’s nastay
Happy birthday to anyone who had their birthday today :)
why is the full episode private?
What about quantum dmt?
Where in this video did he even explain quantum physics??? All I heard was him dancing around the subject and then talked about lasers....
Thank you. He dances around every explanation and everybody seems to think hes doing a wonderful job explaining it.
"Joe Rogan | What Everyone Gets Wrong About Quantum Physics w/Sean Carroll" its about what many get wrong about it, not what it is. If you want to kno more about it, you are already on the internet!
Read the title. This is just a snippet of the podcast. He explains it at another time in the full podcast.
*explaines quantum mechanics
Joe Rogan: My brain hurts
*takes DMT
Joe Rogan: The Machine Elves touches me here
The Smartphone analogy is a great one. Is there an IOS and Android Multiverse or is that just Many Worlds?
There are a lot of facts in physics that we use every day that we don’t know how they work. A very simple and obvious one is gravity.
Heavy
stuff falls down.
OR time gets bendy
OR 'its irrelevant to quantum physics'
OR in some potentially impossible state we could never make quantum and gravity don't work together so we're wrong. So lets invent loads of math for that eventuality.
Works on many levels...only really the latter we don't know about but its not that they are struggling to know about it: its much worse-- they struggle to invent the scenario where they wouldn't understand it...
we dont "know" how anything works, we just have best guesses
lmao... 1:52; swap 'quantum physics' with 'gravity' and the same holds true
Lucid dreaming is also highly misunderstood
Shadøw *misunderstood
@@racingsponga typo
Ummm... ok?
Dreaming, is highly misunderstood
we need more talk with this guy 😁
Anyone know which of Sean Carroll's books they're discussing here?
I'm confused too. Crazy that a link to the book is not provided.