My Opinion on the Future of WCA Events

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2020
  • Here is my opinion on what events should be added and removed from the WCA! I know that adding and removing events is much more complicated than what I make it seem in this video and I have my biases, but this is just my ideal future of the WCA if I could change it. Let me know your opinions on this topic in the comments!
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  • @higgledypiggledycubledy8899

    The only reason beginners do the quick events is that the time limits are always too harsh for slower events. Allow 2 minutes for square or 3 minutes for 4x4 and you'll have plenty of participants.

    • @calebyao.
      @calebyao. Před 2 lety +9

      The competition will take way too long

    • @jakegeater
      @jakegeater Před rokem

      what’s the average cutoff for 4x4?

    • @josephdanforth4830
      @josephdanforth4830 Před rokem +1

      Usually around 1:20

    • @PanzereichMapping
      @PanzereichMapping Před rokem +7

      @@josephdanforth4830 which in my eyes is unacceptable. 4x4 is one of the first events beginners learn, the cutoff should be 2:00, and the time limit 3:30.

    • @tyronium2
      @tyronium2 Před 11 měsíci

      @@PanzereichMappingthe cutoff should definitely be around 1:20 because you can get to 1:20 ish in like a month if you are sub 20 on 3x3 (which is easy)

  • @AnthonyRochester
    @AnthonyRochester Před 3 lety +41

    No one's going to watch a whole multi blind attempt either but every event doesn't have to be for the spectators

    • @thehotdog128
      @thehotdog128 Před rokem +2

      Same with fmc, it’s so much fun to do but not at all a spectator event

  • @qsr6838
    @qsr6838 Před 3 lety +183

    I think the wca shouldn't remove events they should add events

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +61

      Also agree! Which is why I think having tier 2 events and bringing back feet is fine as a middle ground. While some events are too repetitive and not as good as a fit in the WCA in my opinion, I still think its important to recognize those who practiced the events in some way.

    • @looperover
      @looperover Před 3 lety +10

      Cube Master 20 events should be the max

    • @henryschwisow3575
      @henryschwisow3575 Před 3 lety

      Ya

    • @henryschwisow3575
      @henryschwisow3575 Před 3 lety +1

      I like 5 by 5 and 7 by 7

    • @henryrobinson9706
      @henryrobinson9706 Před 3 lety

      @@henryschwisow3575 you stole my name

  • @alvincheng414
    @alvincheng414 Před 3 lety +31

    Smh the memorization technique for 4BLD and 5BLD can be very different and removing then makes platinum extra easy and hence makes such achievements less prestigious

  • @Jj82op
    @Jj82op Před 3 lety +55

    I don't think people should care about spectator friendly events, at least at my country we are a small community and we compete because we like it and basically every competition is about the competition. BLD events are entertaining to those who like it and the fact that events are similar shouldn't be a factor and challenging on their own. Big events as well, it's only your opinion and if you don't like its fine they are similar but all completely different. Probably if you tried to get good at big cubes you can understand it's not just more pieces and only get good at one and become better at the rest. For us who do most events know the process of improvement and their own uniqueness. Again I don't think we do it for the spectators, we do it for our selves and that should be enough.
    Your tier events concept is completely uselless, organizers already chose what type of competition they are doing and you don't want to compete on a event then just don't pick it. That's why there are competitions like FMC Americas, the competitions with BLD events, and competitions based on the area where it would be held.

    • @speedcubingaccount4121
      @speedcubingaccount4121 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah i dont like it when people say clock dont belong people practice these events and dedicate themselfs to getting good like 3x3 if it were to get removed people like me would get devastated we all love clock we even have a group chat for clock remember when feet was removed people alot of people disaproved of it and thats gonna happen again

    • @_flesh_6210
      @_flesh_6210 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly what I want to say

  • @zacharytrudell2411
    @zacharytrudell2411 Před 3 lety +40

    Besides clock, I think every event has it's place in the WCA.
    You have to remember that even though the competitions are moving towards spectator-friendliness, and being a "spectator sport", but you have to remember that a lot of the competition is also for the competitors themselves, and the interest of those who appreciate puzzles for the theory and what makes them a puzzle. You can't forget that it's not all for the cameras and for the ones watching.
    And honestly, if we remove those longer events and make it mainly focused around events that take less than 5 seconds or so, we have effectively made the equivalent of a cupstacking competition.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +2

      I think cup stacking is very different in that it's the same relative pattern every time, but even smaller cubes like 2x2 have very unique solutions. I understand the WCA not being fully a spectator sport, but I think that would be a great future for cubing for a bigger audience and more sponsors. My argument isn't really for small events but more for larger events, I think medium length events are still good for the sport :)

    • @zacharytrudell2411
      @zacharytrudell2411 Před 3 lety

      @@CubeMasterYT That's fair. I understand that then.

    • @cubingforfun3191
      @cubingforfun3191 Před 11 měsíci +1

      What about fmc it is a terrible spectator sport

    • @everythingtube172
      @everythingtube172 Před 9 měsíci

      @@cubingforfun3191FMC should be one of those reality game shows

    • @TheGrindingIce
      @TheGrindingIce Před 8 měsíci +2

      BRUH WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CLOCK SO MUCH ITS A GOOD EVENT LIKE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT JUST DONT COMPETE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE IT

  • @willhuge1408
    @willhuge1408 Před 3 lety +20

    I'm sorry, but I believe that you are totally wrong on the big cubes and big blind. And repetitive does now matter. And you should not remove an event just because other people are so far ahead of others

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +1

      In my opinion, repetitiveness matters a lot since I think the WCA would do better with more diversity, which is the reason why stuff like 8x8+, and Kilominx are not events currently. As for your second point, I agree that is true however my argument is that rankings are too similar because of events being to similar, so someone dominating an event is ok but not rankings being the same for several events in my opinion, just because the events are so similar in how they work. Just my opinion though :)

    • @willhuge1408
      @willhuge1408 Před 3 lety

      @@CubeMasterYT Ok, I was glad that not anybody else replied because that would have started this whole war.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +3

      I think this video itself already started a war lmao, oops

  • @parkertrager4849
    @parkertrager4849 Před 3 lety +33

    Let’s all make sure Sam never gets a job in any wca committee

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +3

      Why :'( Think my arguments are pretty valid

    • @speedcubingaccount4121
      @speedcubingaccount4121 Před 3 lety +15

      @@CubeMasterYT what you dont consider is people still practice these events want to get wrs in it
      And want to compete in the world champion ship or nats

    • @parkertrager4849
      @parkertrager4849 Před 3 lety +10

      Cube Master idk I just fully disagree on everything you said tbh

  • @clockgod1151
    @clockgod1151 Před 3 lety +27

    actually, we shouldnt remove any events because there is always people that like the events that you want removed

    • @speedcubingaccount4121
      @speedcubingaccount4121 Před 3 lety +6

      I agree i also love clock and i want to get into big blind

    • @clockgod1151
      @clockgod1151 Před 3 lety +1

      @@speedcubingaccount4121 i could never do any blind in a million years but i like to watch it and i think its cool

    • @tuneboyz5634
      @tuneboyz5634 Před 3 lety +7

      Yeah let people enjoy their favorite events, people care too much about money and fame smh

    • @speedcubingaccount4121
      @speedcubingaccount4121 Před 3 lety

      @@tuneboyz5634 cube master? He just thinks that people dont like watching clock

    • @tuneboyz5634
      @tuneboyz5634 Před 3 lety +3

      @@speedcubingaccount4121why remove it? his argument is pretty stupid since the only event "spectator" (Non cubers) Friendly is 3x3.

  • @AnthonyRochester
    @AnthonyRochester Před 3 lety +23

    I just learnt clock and I'm really enjoying it

    • @Usha_Prasanna
      @Usha_Prasanna Před 3 lety +2

      Yes, it will be fun. I dunno why people hate it. Just like people hate EZ Cubing for no reason.😭😭

    • @josepharchibald7107
      @josepharchibald7107 Před 3 lety

      Any new event is fun

    • @josepharchibald7107
      @josepharchibald7107 Před 3 lety

      Do you still enjoy it

    • @AnthonyRochester
      @AnthonyRochester Před 3 lety

      @@josepharchibald7107 yeah I haven't been practising clock much recently but I still think its a pretty fun puzzle

    • @Johnald26
      @Johnald26 Před 3 lety

      Its a really fun puzzle, I think it just isnt good as an event because it isnt spectator friendly and has the special covers like he said in the video. I still like solving it

  • @the4thCuber
    @the4thCuber Před rokem +5

    Super late, but I have this great idea: 3x3 no inspection. It's like 3bld, but not blind. You start the timer, then take off the cube cover and solve normally. This would make 3x3 interesting again, as I feel the pros are now one-looking f2l, and ll is just easy to recognize.

  • @minired1234
    @minired1234 Před 3 lety +7

    people try to remove events without properly trying them and given them a real go like clock for example i wanted it removed without even trying it because of youtubers always using it at the but of the joke. I tried it and its one of my favourite events

  • @mkay2970
    @mkay2970 Před 3 lety +9

    Very late but I disagree with most things said in the video. We definitely shouldn’t remove events because of the people who enjoy those events and put time and practice into them and the event tier system seems cool but I think we just need to accept that cubing is and always will be a niche hobby so making cubing competitions interesting for outsiders isn’t realistic.

  • @prosperhuang
    @prosperhuang Před 3 lety +10

    I think tier 2 events should be less common in local comps but they definitely should have them at nats and worlds

  • @rayyanferoz7746
    @rayyanferoz7746 Před 3 lety +14

    #1x1forwca
    It’s are job to do promote this so it reaches this to the wca

    • @batrongordeg
      @batrongordeg Před 3 lety

      I would have the tied WR then. Good idea!

    • @wild.capy-
      @wild.capy- Před 3 lety

      Batron Gordeg wow nice but it’s impossible
      Can’t scramble can’t solve

    • @RBMCubing
      @RBMCubing Před 3 lety

      *our

    • @batrongordeg
      @batrongordeg Před 3 lety

      @@wild.capy- i know it, i was just kidding.

    • @wild.capy-
      @wild.capy- Před 3 lety

      Batron Gordeg but i was to.....

  • @owenchester2519
    @owenchester2519 Před 3 lety +4

    I think that before someone develops an opinion on these things, they should practice that event for a good amount of time. I think just saying to remove events because just one person is the best is invalidating the effort that the record holders put towards these events.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety

      In my opinion, while I do have biases, you don't need to do an event so much to have an opinion on the event, since I'm judging them not on how much I like them but rather how much they fit (for example, I'm not a fan of 2x2, skewb, and FMC but think they still have a place in the WCA). Also sorry about being unclear in the video, but I think people dominating events is not a problem but more of events being so similar that dominating at one easily makes you the best at the other. Just my opinion though :)

  • @ryaneckersley2037
    @ryaneckersley2037 Před rokem +3

    if 5bld gets removed someone's kneecaps are getting removed

  • @ScotttheCubeGuy
    @ScotttheCubeGuy Před 3 lety +5

    EDIT: I see now that later on in the video you say they shouldn't be removed and should be tiered instead, but to be fair you didn't make it clear at all that you didn't want them removed in the first 11 mins of the video lmfao
    One thing which I highly disagree with is the sentence: "the events that need to go are..." we do not need to remove more events. Feet made sense, but Clock is having better hardware now and also more people practice it. it is also not looked down upon by non speedcubers, (feet had this problem where the general public were disgusted by it) so the one event that makes the most sense to remove, shouldn't be removed. hence we shouldn't remove 7x7, or 5BLD etc. I think it's absolutely stupid to suggest that we should remove an event with more competitors than clock. Even though 6x6, 7x7, and 5BLD might be a little similar to other events, they were introduced to the WCA early on and removing them would basically just be a complete kick in the balls for people who now practice them and like them. Also can I mention that 5BLD introduces +-centers into the solve and they have to be solved a little differently with different commutators. also the only competitions where clock is almost mandatory to be held is Championships and big events. the big events tend to have a LOT of time with strict cutoffs especially for clock so no problem there. Championships also deal with it okay.
    Any talk of removing events is honestly gonna end in disaster, we should add events like FTO. I believe the WCA has room for about 2 new events. Also have you ever even watched advanced 4BLD solves? It is honestly so satisfying to watch. any argument to remove an event because it's not a spectator friendly event is just a bad arguement. Would you rather a fun event that isn't spectator friendly (clock as an example) or a not fun event that is spectator friendly (possible Ghost cube might be an example because of how hard it is)
    Your argument about how we should remove 4/5 BLD because they are not exciting to watch are bad, because with that logic MBLD should go straight out the window. (it can be up to like 50 mins of memo lol and it's just 3x3 BLD over and over again)

  • @antonzholobov1313
    @antonzholobov1313 Před 3 lety +3

    Bro big cubes are literally like the best wca events behind like 3x3. Big blind sorta makes sense but I don’t really care cuz I don’t do blind so I don’t know how repetitive but keep big cubes fr

  • @HogRider2
    @HogRider2 Před 3 lety +5

    Honestly I think clock should stay. in my opinion clock is very spectator friendly because One its very fast, and Two for what you said about people not being able to see whats going on, that adds a factor of intensity because spectators know someone will finish any second and they dont know who it will be.
    Also, you said scrambles take forever, but they are acually really fast because you scramble in a pin order that stays the same every single scamble. i personally scramble clock in under 20 seconds and I dont practice it much
    By the way you dont need 3D print cube covers just litterally use anything big enough to cover it thats easy to take off
    anyways, to end, I enjoy clock, and i dont think it should be removed

  • @zacharytrudell2411
    @zacharytrudell2411 Před 3 lety +6

    Curvy Copter for WCA, I will accept no criticism 💅✨

    • @looperover
      @looperover Před 3 lety +1

      Zachary Trudell how will scrambling work lol

    • @zacharytrudell2411
      @zacharytrudell2411 Před 3 lety

      @@looperover Go to the SpeedSolving forum and go to the weekly conpetition. There are scrambles there. And if you dig around in the forums, you'll find entire threads about it :)

    • @looperover
      @looperover Před 3 lety

      @@zacharytrudell2411 where is the link to the scrambles? i cant find it

  • @looperover
    @looperover Před 3 lety +2

    my ideal list of future wca events:
    ---NxN---
    3x3
    2x2
    4x4
    5x5
    6x6
    7x7
    ---NxN SPINOFFS---
    OH
    Feet
    FMC
    3BLD
    MBLD
    4BLD
    5BLD
    ---NICHE PUZZLES---
    Megaminx
    Pyraminx
    Skewb
    Square-1
    Clock
    FTO
    All Events
    all events should be added because its like the most impressiive looking one up there with mbld, and there are a lot of all rounders and records could happen all the time because no one is top class at all events
    fmc can be not optimal as long as its less than 80 moves and you're doing it fast
    mbld should just be 2 cubes, remember all events is about speed

    • @looperover
      @looperover Před 3 lety +1

      The Cubing Dufus but it gets rid of the difficulty level which is meant to be with mbld

  • @Usha_Prasanna
    @Usha_Prasanna Před 3 lety +3

    A very good idea of mine. Just be Jayden McNeill and do every event.😂😂

  • @swagdis7545
    @swagdis7545 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hello! Nice video I only have one question. What is FTL?

  • @zacky6673
    @zacky6673 Před 3 lety +7

    Stanley do be crying watching this

  • @nikitap957
    @nikitap957 Před 3 lety +3

    About redi cube.
    Redi is intuitive, but unlike clock, there is place for development of your solves.
    I personally use 3 methods depending on scramble.
    1st method: LBL - intuitive method.
    Step 1: First Layer
    Step 2: Pairs (solve F2L edges and orient top corners)
    Step 3: ELL (not just sledges, a bit harder - there are simple algs for Z and H perms. Pretty intuitive tho)
    2nd method: TAL (Two Adjacent Layers)
    Step 1: First Layer
    Step 2: Adjacent Layer (solve 2 pairs + edge in between)
    Step 3: L5E (you orient last 2 corners with 2 moves and do one alg for l5e)
    3rd method: Top First (yep, strange, I dont use it often, but its kinda fun)
    1st step: Top (1 corner, 3 neighbouring edges, and 3 neighbouring to them corners)
    2nd step: TL (Two Layers) - use this top to solve two layers like after the 2nd step of TAL
    3rd step: L5E (same as TAL)
    And there of course could be more room for improvement - some things with tons of algs like ZB in 3x3. And in clock there can be no algs at all.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +1

      Agree that Redi Cube is a better addition than Clock, however it's too intuitive I think to be an event. Thanks for letting me know about the methods of it, wasn't too aware there are more approaches than I thought!

    • @ifrog751
      @ifrog751 Před 3 lety

      Yes, some comps held Redi as an unofficial event and it turned out ok

    • @nikitap957
      @nikitap957 Před 3 lety

      @@ifrog751 huh, I held redi on my comps as well

    • @ifrog751
      @ifrog751 Před 3 lety

      Nikita Popkov how did it go?

    • @nikitap957
      @nikitap957 Před 3 lety

      @@ifrog751 pretty nice

  • @TechWizard28
    @TechWizard28 Před 3 lety +2

    Maybe host events for certain puzzles, not for a competition, but to officially log times in a leader board

  • @wild.capy-
    @wild.capy- Před 3 lety +5

    My thoughts
    I think team blind is fun but hard to organize
    Mirror blocks has way to many versions
    Don’t remove 4x4 and 5x5 lol
    Void cube is going to be like ‘lock lock’
    1x1 is impossible
    I think tier 2 is a good idea.
    Magic, we forgot about.
    Fto hardware is bad but popular

    • @udinkun7051
      @udinkun7051 Před rokem

      4multibld lmao

    • @TheGrindingIce
      @TheGrindingIce Před 8 měsíci

      why is TBLD hard? like if your signing up for it at a competiton just put the name of your partner

  • @VerdantGMD
    @VerdantGMD Před 2 lety +3

    I genuinely would like gigaminx added

  • @magnificentthe1st192
    @magnificentthe1st192 Před rokem +1

    About what you said about removing big cubes, why not just take out 6x6 and 7x7? If your problem is that they are all the same, you can just remove almost every big cube. Also, 5x5 is very spectator friendly and doesn’t take too long. So I don’t think it makes sense to remove ALLLLL the big cubes

  • @remicubing
    @remicubing Před 6 měsíci

    We also 3D print square-1 covers and for clock we can pretty much tell how quick someone is going by their flip split

  • @ZandrielGrimm
    @ZandrielGrimm Před 3 lety

    I think with the new Clock puzzle, we should at least have some time to break the records of new people to enjoy it.
    But if the general consensus stays the same, then it's sure to go eventually

  • @josiahhester3820
    @josiahhester3820 Před 3 lety +10

    All NxN cubes are staying!!! I say get rid of crappy square 1.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +1

      NxNs staying makes sense but I think Square-1 definitely has enough popularity to stay

    • @josiahhester3820
      @josiahhester3820 Před 3 lety +4

      Cube Master I know I was just a little angry about you saying big cubes should go. I love big cubes and I don’t really want them to take away squan I enjoy it a little.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +2

      Haha all good :)

    • @henryschwisow3575
      @henryschwisow3575 Před 3 lety +1

      Square 1 is fun

  • @by_sky1799
    @by_sky1799 Před 3 lety +1

    What is your main cube at sq1?

  • @sandpiperbf9767
    @sandpiperbf9767 Před rokem +1

    Would be very sad if 5x5 were not an event. 6x6 and 7x7 are a bit much though. I think master pyraminx, maybe even professor pyra at this point, FTO and master FTO. Adding some cuboids could be cool, and helicopter cube. There's so many good puzzles out there. Most aren't really speed cube ready, but also adding events to WCA allow speed cubes to be made to meet the demand

  • @249cubegame
    @249cubegame Před rokem +1

    This isn’t an event but they should introduce multiblind average if they have enough time
    Make a mean of three for:
    The amount of cubes solved
    The amount of cubes submitted
    The amount of time taken
    For example:
    7/10 56:09
    6/9 42:20
    10/11 59:59
    Mean without rounding:
    7.66/10 52:49.33
    Final result:
    8/10 52:49
    The single will still be more important though but this is a good idea!

  • @Aneurin_Hunt
    @Aneurin_Hunt Před 3 lety +1

    For 6x6/7x7 the centres are distinct enough for me to consider it worth keeping both maybe you don't agree because you just make bars execlusicely. Clock is the only event I can see being removed to be honest. The argument to remove 5BLD 6 and 7 can also be applied to OH but not one wants OH to go. I don't think any event needs removal.
    The spectator friendly events are not 2x2, Pyraminx and Skewb. They are too short. You can't see what is going on. Honestly just being told the times as the happen without watching is the same experience. The shortest length where it is not too short is Square 1 and 3x3. There is a point where an event is too long to be spectator friendly but that varies. What about FMC? If we focus on spectators the event will have to go but it is very unique. All events are repeative to some degree the short events are the worst. They have 2 steps. Sq1 is all algs so that is too, but you are baised about that.
    For new events FTO is the only viable suggestion I have seen. No more short events should be added we have enough short event for the kiddies.
    For team events I honestly think team BLD is shit. It hard for me to explain but I think the way it would devolop would make it boring to do and watch and result in a event that isn't distinct. The calling system would be standardised meaning it a blindfolded person hearing a cross solution and then 6 words for f2l oll and pll cases. This would not be interesting to watch. It would only be about as distinct as OH which already uses the same method as 3x3 speedsolving just with a slightly different approach to ll.
    I think team BLD has a place as a fun unofficial thing to do with friends. Also how would you deal with NRs? I would say you would have to have people from the same countries competing together or else the records get messy. Which could be a little unfair on someone who is the only person from their country completing. Relays could work.
    Athletics(track and field for the Americans) is a sport to look at to model cubing after for spectators. Cubing isn't a team "sport" is an individual the only good to team events are Nations cup type of events.
    Lastly new formats need to be fairly simple. People suggest 3bld should change from bo3 and the mbld scoring system should change. But the simplicity of these is a benefit. Non cubers can understand it easily we don't want to lose that.
    PS Ivy is a even worse idea than 2bld it only has 30000 scrambles so a repeats are common and God's number is 8.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety

      Hello! Thanks for leaving your opinions. For 6/7 and 5BLD, I have done all of the events a lot, and don't just do bars lol so I do know that each of those do introduce new centers. However, the methods are pretty much the exact same, and they are the events that have the most similarities compared to any other events the WCA. I think small events are good because they are much closer and are quicker to watch, not really because you see what they're doing (which I don't think is completely necessary). For team events, I think it brings in something very unique into the WCA that most people would be really happy with. I get that there are some good points with some problems with it, but still think if that can be worked around it would still be great to watch and even better to compete in. For formats, I don't quite mean different scoring systems, but rather things like head to head which I think would create a better spectator sport :)

  • @aarondoescubing
    @aarondoescubing Před 2 lety +1

    I think up to 6x6 is what i want to keep but 7x7 is to long in my option

  • @blizzzey6477
    @blizzzey6477 Před 3 lety +3

    I dont fully agree with your thoughts... even the methodes on 5x5-7x7 are the same, the feeling to hold and complete the cube is a different one. A 7x7 still is spectator friendly, bc a pro 7x7 competetor will not take over 5 minutes on a 7x7. (even tho an interested spectator would spend the 5 minutes) 6x6 is lucky at some points but in the end the ability to spot pieces on big cubes gets worser the bigger the cube is. And thats why a 7x7 is something different than a 5x5 or a 6x6.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety

      The feels of those events are obviously different, but since the methods themselves are way too similar I think they're too similar, which is also shown by similar rankings in those events. Also, I'm sure many people enjoy watching big cubes but the majority of people I don't think do (people are much more likely to watch a full 3x3 WR than a 7x7 WR video)

    • @blizzzey6477
      @blizzzey6477 Před 3 lety +2

      @@CubeMasterYT In generell ypur right but opinions are different and I love 7x7, even tho im not good at it. 😂 If I could ban an event it would be clock bc of the obvious reasons you said in the video: not a twisty puzzle, most spectator unfriendly event...
      still hope, that the wca is adding more events, bc I dont like a lot of them but I would enjoy other events like mirror blocks...
      have a nice day 😉

    • @TheGrindingIce
      @TheGrindingIce Před 8 měsíci

      BRUH WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE CLOCK SO MUCH ITS A GOOD EVENT LIKE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT JUST DONT COMPETE BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE IT SO YOU SHOULD NOT REMOVE IT@@blizzzey6477

  • @thehotdog128
    @thehotdog128 Před rokem +1

    7:31 disagree. As a beginner, 4 and 5 were my favorites! They were simple enough to pick up and learn, and felt completely different. Low cutoffs made me switch to maining pyra (now I main 4 again), because my 2:30s on 4 and 5:15s on 5 meant I got 2 solves per competition.

  • @tuneboyz5634
    @tuneboyz5634 Před 3 lety +1

    I dont think all events have to spectator friendly cus those events can be held in another room

  • @iliketrainz4030
    @iliketrainz4030 Před 3 lety +1

    If they remove the wca events there will not be any more wrs tho coz if you remove the harder events or the events that take longer the WRs are gonna be the same at one point and wont ever be broker for many years.

  • @user-vo3ei7jc9q
    @user-vo3ei7jc9q Před 10 měsíci +1

    Please don't remove like,half of the wca events and many people like big cubes.

  • @spacemario
    @spacemario Před 3 lety +3

    what is FTO?

  • @tfreshcuber6307
    @tfreshcuber6307 Před rokem

    I agree with some points made here, however I don’t think any events should be removed. I don’t like clock personally, and don’t think it should have ever been added. However I realize that there is a community behind the event and it should not be removed. I personally love big cubes (especially 6 and 7) and would hate to see them go. I can see the point in tier 2 events, but all current events should stay tier 1. Team blind is a good idea in theory, however 2 good bld solvers could just teach each other their bld method. They would 1 look in inspection and destroy everyone with 7-8 second solves. Your point about redi cube being too intuitive can just as easily be applied to pyra, skewb, and 2x2. I think it would be a good event to add

  • @zephinal557
    @zephinal557 Před rokem +2

    Rescramble should be an event. You get 2 cubes but 1 of them you need to copy the scramble.

  • @aaronspiller3696
    @aaronspiller3696 Před rokem +1

    Summary of this video “everything except 3x3 and Sq1 is a bad event because it’s repetitive and screws up the schedule”

  • @vinayakgupta931
    @vinayakgupta931 Před 3 lety +2

    What is FTL in Feet??

  • @samuelefront9901
    @samuelefront9901 Před 3 lety +1

    4bld and 5bld are pretty much the same, I agree, but very different from 3bld, so I'd keep at least 4bld (it's also one of my favourite events so I'm a bit biased): memo isn't too long, and it's exciting to see the execution. Mbld same thing, watching the execution is great (of course no one watches full memo). I agree on what you said about clock (no one sees what's going on), but it's a unique tps event, funny to practice in my opinion. I disagree on 6x6 and 7x7, they're not similar to 5x5, centers are much more creative. Maybe I'd remove 7x7, but 6x6 in my opinion should definitely stay. I don't do fmc, it's the least spectator friendly event, but I underatand why it's there, so I'll keep it for people who enjoy doing it.
    I won't add any event for bigger or lower puzzles already in (so no master pyra, skewb, no kilominx, no square 2 or anything else similar), in my opinion big cubes are worth only for nxn (which are kinda the main twisty puzzles). I'd add instead popular non wca puzzles such as redi cube, 2x2x3 maybe, maybe some more shape shifting puzzles (but not 3x3 shape modes, just puzzles with different mechanism). Fto could be nice as well.

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting, thoughts on team events like relays?

    • @samuelefront9901
      @samuelefront9901 Před 3 lety

      @@CubeMasterYT team relay could be funny, I'd love them. Relays done by a single person no, too long as you said (and it would just be another event where Max would dominate every one else)

  • @lianxingtan936
    @lianxingtan936 Před 2 lety

    For the big cubes I dont think spectators can be able to see the cube when solving because usually cubers solves it under table Yes I agree that clock is a very troublesome events for organisers but I dont think that wca should removed it there are large populations of cubers doing clock events even and it is the simplest event in wca which doesnt required any algorithms but only logics to solve it it is kind of an interessting events and also now many companies making better clock in the market.

  • @parabolaaaaa4919
    @parabolaaaaa4919 Před 3 lety +2

    22:22 how can we be best friends for life if the comp is 6 hours away

  • @nathanrahn4442
    @nathanrahn4442 Před 3 lety +2

    *DISCLAIMER*
    You will get offended this video

  • @SeanD6091
    @SeanD6091 Před 3 lety

    The tier 2 event concept is very nice in my opinion

  • @StepanMakarenko
    @StepanMakarenko Před 3 lety

    How do you think rankings in team events should work?

    • @CubeMasterYT
      @CubeMasterYT  Před 3 lety

      Just like usual, based on times :)

    • @StepanMakarenko
      @StepanMakarenko Před 3 lety

      @@CubeMasterYT Do you mean that both of the teammates will get the same ranking? I mean global ranking. Also how should NRs and CRs work if people from different countries will be in one team?

  • @sunitachhugani4002
    @sunitachhugani4002 Před 3 lety +2

    I am sorry but I want to say that team blind and nations cup should not be added because .How will wca add it to our wca profiles

  • @antoniosergio9128
    @antoniosergio9128 Před rokem

    should add kilominx, 2x2 and 3x3 mirror cube, 2x2 blind, 2x2, 4x4, 5x5 multiblind and all 3x3 side events like fewest moves and one handed solving have a 2x2, 4x4, 5x5, 6x6, 7x7

  • @leis5168
    @leis5168 Před 6 měsíci +1

    i would wish me one or two shape cubes like sq1

  • @Subzero02.
    @Subzero02. Před 5 dny

    Tbh some people wanna remove events and hate events they don't do. I used to hate clock but now I find it decently fun. With that saying, I hate skewb.

  • @harryforbes2492
    @harryforbes2492 Před rokem

    i agree with removing 5bld, and adding kilominx, but i think events like clock and big cubes should stay, clock for its uniqueness, and big cubes because it encourages newer cubers/competitors to try more complex things.

  • @BobNeverStop
    @BobNeverStop Před rokem

    Also i think they will make a wca cube for competitors who wants to use it

  • @TetraCubing
    @TetraCubing Před rokem +1

    22:00 "Fmc is a team event if you cheat"

  • @Cardmaster12
    @Cardmaster12 Před 4 měsíci

    Part of the problem with ivy cube is it’s just a pyraminx shape mod

  • @GoesByJ
    @GoesByJ Před 5 měsíci

    I know people hate clock, but it’s truly one of my favorite events. I’ll be sad when it goes.

  • @sunitachhugani4002
    @sunitachhugani4002 Před 3 lety +1

    I agree to this video 100 % and feet should be added
    True if events are events are removed people will become sad for eg I was very good in feet and it got removed and I became sad......
    And events like 4 5 6 7 their are the same in my opion 6 and 7 should be removed and 5 bld also block for sure because they are boring to watch but 4 bld and mbld us nice
    Events like squan ,pyra , skewb , and mega are nice becuase they are short and spectator friendly ...
    Finally I want to say that wca should add some more events which are more spectator friendly.

  • @SlurpMobile
    @SlurpMobile Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think they should add master pyra

  • @josephdanforth4830
    @josephdanforth4830 Před rokem

    I feel like they might drop 7x7 or 5BLD, but I would love to see them add kilominx. If it is an official event, the hardware will quickly improve

  • @vidcapper1
    @vidcapper1 Před 3 lety

    How about rediminx?
    OK, I only mentioned that because I finally solved the thing! :)

  • @JoshuaTheCuberYT
    @JoshuaTheCuberYT Před rokem

    I do agree the edges can be tedious but they should still be. Avent

  • @SlurpMobile
    @SlurpMobile Před 11 měsíci +2

    Tbh square 1 is the best event because it’s a great event to spectate you can tell when steps happen it’s fast and really interesting to watch, it’s got great hardware it’s just the best I mean it’s not my favorite but it’s a perfect event I feel.

  • @nikobellic2869
    @nikobellic2869 Před 3 lety

    Hey everyone, what event do YOU personally think should be in WCA, I personally think that the Windmill cube should be an event

  • @anarkitty5270
    @anarkitty5270 Před 3 lety

    I understand clock, but I still do not think it should be removed even if it isn't spectator friendly, it is still very fun and one of the most unique events. The only other event that is worst (or would be) for spectators would be FMC, which I do not hate.

  • @purevanillacookie9977
    @purevanillacookie9977 Před 7 měsíci

    the reason i dont think FTO should be added is the lack of accesibility. theres barely any FTO producers that arent vintage. it would be interesting if moyu or qiyi made an FTO

  • @RZCuber
    @RZCuber Před 2 měsíci

    I think 5x5 shouldn't be removed or even considered. The methods between 4x4 and 5x5 are the same, but some steps diversify. 5x5 is even better than 4x4.

  • @d.a.b1404
    @d.a.b1404 Před 5 dny

    7 bld, oh, fmc, but when you get parity you have to do it with feet.

  • @pt_cubing3677
    @pt_cubing3677 Před rokem

    the only reason I would like mirror blocks added (or a blind cube maybe?) in the WCA is for blind people to be able to compete, which would bring cubing to even more people!
    sq-2 would be cool also

    • @ElectroWeb
      @ElectroWeb Před 10 měsíci

      Well technically blind people can solve in the WCA, if you read the regulations you can see that they have a section that explains if you are blind you're allowed to have texture for each side as long as they also have colors so the judge can verify that the cube is solved without struggling with it
      Although I do think it would be nice to have mirror blocks as an event as it would also give blind people another event to look forward to, and although it's basically the same as 3x3 the solve does feel a bit more challenging and it would be fun to compete in

  • @TheRubySpider
    @TheRubySpider Před 6 měsíci

    “People designing cube covers specifically for one event is stupid”
    He says, while solving a Squan.

  • @harrycuber
    @harrycuber Před rokem

    i feel like the wca should remove clock because it doesn't really fit with the others and maybe sq1 due to its lack of popularity compared to others like 4x4 but maybe they should add the unnoficial events (redi cube mirror kilominx) to the official events. also 2x2/4x4 OH seems fitting. 2x2 blind probably shouldnt be added because lots of people are gonna be doing it too quickly, and maybe 4x4 multi blind.

  • @YotYot
    @YotYot Před rokem

    ‏‪They should add blind mirror blocks with no inspection

  • @colinstorm2892
    @colinstorm2892 Před 2 lety

    "Thats something that would happened more, if it happened more often"
    - Cube Master 2020

  • @seb_bock_cubing
    @seb_bock_cubing Před 2 lety +1

    I think 3x3/OH/3BLD relay would be cool.

    • @tarotsport1451
      @tarotsport1451 Před rokem +1

      This isn’t a good idea since it would be dominated but blind solvers. Being a top 3x3 solver somewhat translates to being a good oh solver but neither can help with some of the specific skill needed for blind folded. Most, nearly all i think, blindfold solvers are also “decent” at 3x3 and OH. I can imagine a 5/9/50 and 12/23/21 times. Plus relays are kinda long to do and to organize and i think the next WCA events are gonna 3x3 to mid tier sized event.

    • @seb_bock_cubing
      @seb_bock_cubing Před rokem +1

      @@tarotsport1451 yeah that’s a rlly good point

  • @kucingterkuat6543
    @kucingterkuat6543 Před rokem

    Mirror cube should be added because its not exactly like 3x3. Maybe you can't plan first or even cross bcause the shpe

  • @maxcubes8724
    @maxcubes8724 Před 3 lety +1

    Cool video

  • @andrewtan881
    @andrewtan881 Před 3 lety +4

    Lol controversial indeed

  • @rottenpuppieproduction5587

    They should make a mirror cube event

  • @Ocraftj
    @Ocraftj Před 7 měsíci

    when you realize the wca logo has the wrong color scheme:

  • @dragunyt2727
    @dragunyt2727 Před 3 lety

    5bld its one of the best events why someone would want to remove it?
    add 3x3 while juggling

  • @JoshuaTheCuberYT
    @JoshuaTheCuberYT Před rokem +1

    4 5 6 7 are fun to solve

  • @szcooking4623
    @szcooking4623 Před 3 lety +2

    I am a member of wca your ldea I good

  • @mirahgo7822
    @mirahgo7822 Před rokem

    I would add mirror blocks :D

  • @aer0a
    @aer0a Před rokem

    If magic comes back the scrambled state shouldn't be the same every time

  • @pajeczakk
    @pajeczakk Před 3 lety +1

    At least we have sq-1

  • @dromcom3711
    @dromcom3711 Před 4 měsíci

    They should add all 3 1x1 cubes like normal 1x1 the 1 layer pyra and the 1 layer mega

  • @swampy7055
    @swampy7055 Před 3 lety

    Agree with you

  • @itzecuber
    @itzecuber Před 4 měsíci

    Don't mess with my boy 5

  • @IRLtwigstan
    @IRLtwigstan Před 11 měsíci

    I love the clock but. I get it doesn’t fit.

  • @mivinerstuff
    @mivinerstuff Před 2 lety

    i would love 2x2 and 4x4 oh tbh

  • @edwardrust3197
    @edwardrust3197 Před 3 lety

    Love your channel- really interesting high quality videos, keep it up!

  • @cubeinacuber
    @cubeinacuber Před rokem +1

    I thin) they should add 3x3 underwater

    • @CubeS4nT1
      @CubeS4nT1 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thqt would cost hosts of competition lots of money

  • @phamhuy7803
    @phamhuy7803 Před 8 měsíci

    FTO is the best candidate as a WCA official puzzle

  • @isleofdre108
    @isleofdre108 Před 9 měsíci

    i really like clock because its really easy and im not very good at cubing