Using LIDAR in BOAT design [E106]
Vložit
- čas přidán 12. 12. 2023
- Get 5% off from TotalBoat when you visit our affiliate link (thanks 😊): www.totalboat.com/duracell
***
Paul's really good blog: www.mvtardis.com
***
Our channel is made possible by our Patrons. We are so grateful. / theduracellproject
***
For simple, one time donations, Venmo: @theduracellproject
***
Have an idea? Send us an email: theduracellproject@gmail.com - Auta a dopravní prostředky
![Boat Build: How I built 3 rooms in a tiny space [E107]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9N3upSJn4ck/mqdefault.jpg)
![Boat Build: How I built 3 rooms in a tiny space [E107]](/img/tr.png)
![HUGE PROJECT Finally DONE. [E113]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PDCxHmYX1Yg/mqdefault.jpg)
![A RACE to the FINISH [E88]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yGH9toCtmEI/mqdefault.jpg)
There is nothing I didn’t like about this episode. It had everything.. from the technical to the wonderful simple music. And don’t forget the fiberglassing. Great job.
Looking good! Really happy for your future self that you're designing the tank to be extractable without cutting it into pieces. One of the biggest lessons we've learned (sounds like you know it too) in the course of owning a couple boats, and being around a ton of boats, is that everything will break eventually, and if you build it into the boat permanently without possibility of being serviced, you'll be cussing up a storm some day in the future.
Love the choice of music on this episode.
This design is going to be killer. I love how you're laying stuff out. It's like a treehouse on the water. I dig it!
thanks!
IMHO the doghouse benches are (pardon my pun) insurmountable.
A small footrail or foot shelf to step up from the floor to the seats might be an idea...
I had the same idea, though if it folded up and out of the way it would keep the path clear when it's not in use.
Not just to step up but also be at the correct height/depth for a comfortable and ergonomic seated posture
My thought too, but the space is already quite narrow.
Edit: Meanwhile, clstjam suggested a folding step!
Came here to say the same thing! A nice piece of teak maybe?
@@TIICProductionsMore likely to be a nice piece of glassed foam on this boat!
The scan with your phone was really cool. I did not know that was available. Things are really taking shape.
Every video you create has seriously worthwhile benefits to everyone remotely involved or interested in boating. You're providing a genuine beneficial service which is simply a pleasure to watch!
When you consider how you're building the internals of this yacht, it's going to be way over engineered and will cope with anything mother nature can throw at it, a lot better than any human can take hahaha.
Plus no squeaks! What a joy!!
Well done and keep up the great work 🏆
Hybrid electric sounds ideal! Can’t wait to see requirements being slowly discussed. No need to justify your choice. It’s your requirements that suit you both and quite possibly the inspector. Lol
Thanks for taking us along.
you're quite right-the inspector is the real boss here
Wow, more than 80k subscribers! Congrats!
Matt, I am 6ft and my current yacht only has 6ft headroom under the companionway hatch! 5ft 11 in the saloon it is a pain in the neck if you see what I mean? you are going to live on this beauty , just saying. I also spent 5 years building my house from scratch. planning your systems like water, drains ,heating, wiring doors windows etc etc is stimulating and I commend you for sharing this project with us all and having people comment on it all.🦆🦆
Just dont end up like Quasimodo. 🤣🤣
Nice to see the inspector visiting regularly. great update 2x👍
Technology blows me away every day. That is amazing.
I started my working life as a draughtsman, using pen and ink before moving onto CAD in it's early mainframe days, then PC tech. It's so cool to see ypu applying the latest technology to map and draw up your tanks. Much love from England
One idea regarding the floor hight inside the dog house is to have two heights, ie a step. The space under the step Could be a place to store small items för guests. Like a glove compartment. Then Matt can strand tall in the lower part.
Thanks, as always, for your interesting videos. The imaging app is SUPER cool and I find myself being drawn into the composite construction "rabbit hole". All credit to you for withstanding the rigorous inspection schedule BUT an audit of your inspector's credentials might be in order... :) / Cheers, be well - D.
the inspector would never consent to an audit of her credentials, unfortunately!
I’m so glad you’re going with an aluminium fuel tank Matt. Tally Ho had a disaster with their initial, plastic tank. I was just reading about regen props for charging and they were saying that regeneration with standard props on boats are inefficient compared to dedicated regen legs, BUT this inefficiency is negated with variable pitch props on high end hybrid diesel/electric motors. It will be fascinating to see and hear your installation of all that.
Great idea having the tank low down and accessible if needed..with the baffle plates on a tank I made I added a few holes using a swaging tool along the top about 1/2 inch to 1 inch down so that when filling up with diesel from the fishing boat docks that have high flow pumps I didn't have a problem with blow back/fuel lock. My breather pipe was fine on normal car size pump but the delivery on some of the more industrial size was a bit much.
When I was young and dumb I was fiberglassing the bottom of boat as it sat. Just like a hole in one a pea sized blob of resin made it between my hat and safety glasses. Left eye. Highly suggest you not try that. 2 days later looked like Mike Tyson took a running start and bare knuckle punched 👊 in the eye. Almost lost it.
Wow! That phone app is incredible! What an age we live in, and think how much wood you will save on templates!
Those quarter berths are kind of claustrophobic. You could open up a big opening into the new walls you just installed. For privacy I would make a sliding foam panel with a few sliding tracks to close off the area if the people using the area wish to do so, The cost and time would be minimal. You would also be able to pass items into those areas like cockpit cushions.
The ‘Fiberglassing Waltz’ is always soothing. Looking good guys.
A small 200mm step in the 'wall' so you have foot rest when seated at a table in bad weather etc, no kids dangling leg feel, and minimal encroachment into cabins.
I Sail my 2.4mR in France for a long time...............some years ago. This boat is a high level sail boat in races but very confortable in winward.😏🤔😊😊
I am a follower of Tally Ho in port Townsend.?👏👏👏👏👏
Bon courage and stay safe.👍👍👍👍👍
I just watched The Race to Alaska on Amazon prime. I didn't know that Matt was one of the winners! Pretty cool :) 👍
Your project is so interesting. Always look forward to your weekly updates 👏
You are doing a killer job - its looking awesome!
Thanks for the link to MV Tardis. I had been waiting for a different set of plans to be ready, but I bought them Olga 28 plans instead. The build has begun. Your work on this boat is second to none. Thanks for filming and posting!
it's a great blog! glad you checked it out.
i would always go with the extra headroom. Maybe you can use some rails to rest the feet on.
Well done !
I discovered your channel in a video of Magic Carpet channel.
Greetings from France
this is starting to look really good! Have you considered maybe adding some small vents to the walls you installed, to have some air circulating into the quarter berths. You could use small round vents, which would not look too intrusive. Great work so far, really amazing!
Yes there will be a couple hatches in each.
Awesome episode as always, thank you! One pointer re the fuel pipes is to make them of of different ”depth”, so that e.g. a pipe feeding a heater is shallower than the one feeding the generator. But you have probably already thought of that. 😂
good tip!
Love your work
Great episode! Keep rolling Duracell crew! 👍👍
sweet, nice progress
Good stuff Matt
My girlfriend and I watch your episodes every week and we agree that we could watch you fiberglass all day! Keep up the good work!
thanks!
Great video
Most favorite boat construction channel - thank you ❤
What about a height ajustable floor between the benches? Something like a floor plate you can remove, flipover and thereby can be installed as needed on a low (standing height) and high (comfy sitting, leg rest) position…
Looking good
Thank you. You inspire me to something every day.
If you have an opportunity to include an extra inlet and outlet for fuel polishing- do it. Great to be able to polish your fuel when you inevitably get water and or dirty fuel in a remote location. We picked up bad fuel in the Australs and had no way to polish in situ. We now have built in fuel polishing.
Thank you for sharing this with me. I just love what y’all are doing. It’s so amazing what you have done to it.
I love the music. Makes me feel right at home.
Great progress on the interior design/layout. When it comes to adding timber handrails etc, you should contact Westwind Hardwood in Sidney, Vancouver Island, as they are boat-builders too.
Whew, I got my weekly fiberglass and resin fix!
Nearly unsubscribed but Matt clawed victory back from the jaws of defeat in the final furlong!!
Awesome work with the Lidar. It's really cool to see you getting into it. A tip for the fuel tank is to chamfer the corners of the tank. Instead of a single 90deg fold, make two 45 bends. This significantly reduces the bending stresses at the change in direction. Ideally its a sphere, cylinder with domed ends is next best. Boxes are the "worst". Imagine blowing up the tank with air into a balloon and all the flat sides bulge out. They don't bulge at the corners and the result is a stress concentration. Square tanks will often crack along the welds at these edges.
This and have the fuel intake hose installed in a way that allows fuel to be sucked in most normal boat inclination. With a tank that big, you can have like 10 gallons inside and due to boat tilt you may not have fuel at the spot where the fuel line is.
Nice, slow and steady. Doing a hell of a job brother. Keep up the good work and stay safe brother.
Really cool to see how you use the interior space available and I'm looking forward to hearing more about the hybrid system. I think that'll be a great fit for you guys!
Very interesting way of designing the fuel tank. Thanks for the video 👍👍👍😁
thanks Jim!
We’ve just had the same hard decisions to make on our cabin! It looks great and there is always so much to think about, it’s so nice you will get a great view in the dog house, it’ll be amazing when cruising!
Hi Mat, have you thought about spreading the weight over the length and both sides of the boat? It seams to be lot of weight in the back. Maybe you could use some flexible tube tanks for the fuel in other front parts of the boat?
I love your videos, somehow they are very relaxing to watch.
What I have been wondering for a very long time is how you clean your tools from epoxy, I think you never mentioned this.
In a bucket of acetone that seals so the acetone doesn’t evaporate
Just a wild idea to ameliorate the height of the companionway floor vs. Bench height: Perhaps the benches would be more comfortable to sit on with the addition of flush fitting, bottom hinged footrests.
That would get around the dangling legs problem that high seating brings, allowing you to brace yourselves with your feet as is the case with more conventionally proportioned seating.
Because they could be latched up and flush when not in use, they’d not present any obstruction or loss of width to the companionway.
Anyhow, it was just an idle thought.
Really enjoyed the video and what you’re doing, the soundtrack was great. I’d love to get your playlist, it’d go well with the vibe in my workshop.
Cheers, R. 😎👍🍻
It’s a good idea. We’ve been thinking of that ourselves. Stay tuned.
I love your creativity. this is the best build video on You Tube. I feel sitting with legs dangling is uncomfortable. Maybe some fold down foot rests while sitting and fold them up while walking about the boat. It looks like even with one side folded down you would still be able to walk through the isle without too much trouble. you could build them out of foam and leave a gap at the wall side pivot so when you fold them up the sand falls to the floor. A quick sweep or vacuum and the place is clean.
exactly! we forgot to mention that this is our plan in the video
I enjoyed this episode ,you are realy making progress
The fuel tank looks great, with the sump for fuel pick up. I would suggest that you add a 1/4 inch line for stripping the tank of water, the suction pick up should be lower than the fuel suctions. All fuel has some water in it and tanks will condensate internally. Having a stripping line allows you to pull the water out of the tank.
AN IDEA 😳
The bunk you put in , Looks to be a face Braker . Use a swimming Pool foam Noddle , cut to Fit . Use any Color LOL
Really it’s your choice
I don’t know if it will help
Great update! I like that scanning app a lot too. IMHO hybrid is the way to go as it gives you a margin of safety out in the open ocean if you become becalmed or you just need to motor a long way for whatever reason, like an emergency of some kind. All electric is fine for day trippers and marina queens... 🤣 I'm sure that the 'inspector' will approve this as well....😁
I’m surprised that your not making your own tank. It’s well within your ( awesome might I add ) skill set.
Love the 60's surf rock. Sounded like the old Ventures, but I do not recognize the specific song. Then you used that lovely old-time music. The boat work is fun and interesting to watch all by itself, but your choices of music add a lot to the narrative.
thanks!
Its amazing that glue and foam will take you around the world!!!
Goodonya! Good work!👍👍⚓️from 🇦🇺
Love it man! It’s like I get to work on a boat every week but I’m not covered in dust and glue and don’t have to spend any money. Thanks! Keep up the great work
Ps: you’re pretty good at glasswork, if you ever need to take that fuel tank out a sawzall will open it up
you're the smarter one ;)
Musical accompaniment comports to my taste, i.e. brilliant.
Im following you a long time. You made an amazing job on the boat. I learned a lot and had been fascinated that you have the Duracell and bringing her at sea again. But i hv to say.. So fascinated i had been on all.. But i have to say the interial design is special.. Not sure of...surely im wrong.. Wish jou further good luck.
Great job. I'm learning a lot. Can you please explain your reasons for not building the fuel tank with fiberglass and epoxy. Thanks for sharing your journey with us. Very much appreciated.
I can't keep the picture of everything in my mind. But it would be cool to have two tanks, one on each side so you can maintain trim. But I know there are tons of constraints in design. Boat layout is always a compromise of competing goals.
Good to the see the LIDAR/photogrammetry being used, I have been developing this software for the last, too long (18 years). Nice to see it go from a very expensive technology ($200k scanner) to the mobile phone. Good job you had not painted the interior when you scanned it probably would have gotten very upset everything white.
When you do the CAD modelling it is a good idea to model the access opening including the swing of the hatches. This ensure you can get through the opening without taking doors off etc.
Keep up the good work.
Oh man that’s awesome, you did a great job building that technology. I thought it worked really well. And thanks for the tip about the paint, that’s good to know.
@TheDuracellProject My bad, it didn't write the app on your phone, I work for a large cad software house. Normally, the feedback we get is why doesn't it... You want cool. I worked with a survey of the engine room of HMS Belfast (historic battleship moored on the Thames). Not a straight pipe on the house, things all over the place, ship surveys are hard work everything crammed in.
Wow, that 3d scanning app is amazing. Technology certainly is advancing at a rate of knots.
For the doghouse, you could have flip down steps/foot rests on either side for when you are sitting in it. Would help with the "issue" of the floor being low for head room.
exactly
80,000 subscribers!
Love the utilization of the space....and flow of the doghouse to cabin is really well thought out. Only question I have is walkway, with people sitting on both sides, how is the walkway to the companionway, can it be traversed in an emergency situation?
keeping a fuel tank as a supporting / backup system is the right decision for the intended application. power flexibility = safety. good choice.
Great videos, crazy project. Have you thought about adding some hatch (or slide windows) for the births on the pilot house bench hall? May add ventilation, light and integration when needed, or closed to privacy.
Yes, we are considering it!
See my inspectors look like a bunch of chickens. They’re always right there picking around.😎
inspector CHICKENS?! Cool!
Also good that you can see all the hassles that Leo from Sampson went through with his tank fabrication.
Great video you guys, lots of fuel, good generator sounds great use it when needed. My approach to worry free off-grid too. Just wait until you see 3D printing mixed with video apps. Next level, my buddy prints his own boat parts.
crazy
I keep forgetting that you are a fibreglass channel 😂😂😂😂 Amazing what your phone can do with your creative input.💖💖💖🇦🇺🎄🎄🎄
The interior is taken shape nicely just think years gone by designing a tank like you have by computer would have so different 😊😊😊
diesel electric - great idea and what I would do . If all goes well you mostly do not need the diesel but if you are in a river or canal you have it .
I think head space would be nice as you walk thru from the cockpit to the salon. If the height of the benches is too tall, how about some fold down steps/footrests. They would be normally in the up position (spring loaded?) out of the way and you would toe the step down and step up onto the bench. When you lift your foot off of the step it would fold up and out of the way. If you're sitting on the bench facing inwards you could use the folded down step as a footrest. Lot of options. Thanks for the video.
How about putting a small step either side of the benches so its easy to get up onto the benches. Yes it will take away some floor space but there might be plenty left for a walkway ? Love love love this build! Thanks for sharing!! Ringo
Exactly!
Fuel tank will be built out of what?
I can’t wait to see the operation in Vancouver.
I love your inspector general kitty so much! Also, I am REALLY enjoying the violin/fiddle music. It’s such homey, earthy, music that fits so perfectly with something being built in the woods. 🎻
Hi Rick, aluminum!
Love the new tech but nothing beats a hard pattern to make sure it fits 😮
Hi guys, love watching you convert this boat! Could you add some rails along the front of those benches as a foot rest if the floor is going to be farther down, then you’d be able to comfortably reach when sitting? Much love from Minnesota!
that's the plan!
Have you given any thought to the fuel tank touching the hull?
Making this serviceable is golden. You're killing it.
There will be little feet and pads. The tank will not touch the hull.
>This is the future
au contraire
this is the present😉
You may want to check with US Coast Guard regulations for tankage on boats for higher. I think you may want to add a few more baffles. I forget the specs but they are a great source and they have well researched the issues. It’s a lot of fuel to slush around and if you’re going with aluminum use 5086 Marine grade or 316 stainless steel they both do well with diesel again a beautiful job you’re doing
believe you’re doing a wonderful job though
Do a 6" step up then you can leave the floor low. Otherwise everyone will be like Edith Ann!! (Google it or ask your folks!)
Ideas on the tanks...
Include baffles in both directions. Lower frothing that way. Also design a low sump area were dirt can settle in with a drain valve. We make those racos last do mich long.
Diesel redundancy is a great idea.
Quick comment on bunks. If the lip that retains the mattress is high enough to be flush with the top of the mattress, it can be a shin killer when you crawl in. The mattress sinks down under the weight of your knee, and your shin impacts the lip.
Leave the interior passageway deck where it is and consider small “steps” attached to the exterior of the quarterdeck walls which will allow the diminutive folks ability to boost themselves up if need be …. They could be made smooth and tapered fire and aft so as not to be “knee knockers”
For the Pilot house floor, perhaps you could have raised sections along the sides, acting as steps, the full height floor sitting in between. As this floor may need to removable to allow full engine room access, the sections could integrated into the floor rather than the walls. It seems the inspector is sitting on her paws at present, oberserving developments but evaluations paused, and opinions reserved.
Yes, we’ll see what her final verdict is once it’s all done.
Yes, we’ll see what her final verdict is once it’s all done.
Build an ergonomic curb on either side, shape it so it works well with the narrowed isle/hallway. It doesn't have to be much either, even just a robust lip, rather than a "curb" might work.
3800th view and 636th LIKE... here we go. It will be interesting to see how close you settle the seat height relative to 'normal' chair/bench dimensions - say, 16-18". Hmmmm....
What if you add footrails for the benches?
exactly!
Would adding baffles in the tank lengthwise be on the list as well? If I had to take a broad uneducated guess, a lot of the boat's motion would be rocking side to side so I guess you'd also want baffles in the tank in that direction to limit the amount of the mass of the fuel going side to side in that tank.
I’m leaving that up to Greg, who is building the tank
Consider making a foo sep on the wall for the bench that shorter legs can rest on, when seated and can use for climbing up and down from them.
Matt,
Have you considered a flip up step for your salon seating. It might be an easy way to solve the seating height vs the salon floor. One flip each side could be just the ticket. Cheers, Mike
yes, I totally forgot to mention it in the video, but that's the plan