Grade 9 Analysis of The Emigrée by Carol Rumens (Mr Salles)
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Learn the Poet’s purpose:
1. To imagine what it is like to be displaced from your home country and not at home in your own.
2. To mourn the loss of our own childhoods.
3. To explore memory as a creative lie, that nevertheless leads to poetry, and ‘sunlight’.
Understand all the techniques and the conflicts within the poem.
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do you think you would be able to do a massive video with all the quotes you would recommend for use from power and conflict (the ones you can go into most detail about etc), as i think a lot of people would find that very useful.
So the last verse goes like this " I have no passport, there's no way back at all but my city comes to me in its own white plane. It lies down in front of me, docile as paper; I comb its hair and love its shining eyes. My city takes me dancing through the city of walls. They accuse me of being dark in their free city. My city hides behind me. They mutter death, and my shadow falls as evidence of sunlight'
So
Did my research because I was intrigued by the line 'city of walls' and in the poem, Mr Bruff says that the poet deliberately makes the location ambiguous to make the poem relevant to many places but I was still concerned about that line. So I looked up the city of walls and guess what I see?
CONSTANTINOPLE
OR as it would've been called in this poems context Istanbul
Earlier in the poem the narrator talks about her country being at war NOT her city but her country
so I had an idea looking at the line where she says that her language was 'banned by the state' and it made me think of any recent persecution that started in Istanbul and guess what?
THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
It makes so much sense as she's accused of being 'dark' which is just a metaphor for evil she hasn't got a passport as all of her belongings have been stripped of her (this could also be a metaphor for her own identity being taken from her similarly to the Jews during the Holocaust) that makes sense her country is at war WW1! her country is 'sick with tyrants' Sultan Mehmed VI was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire during the genocide
AND
the icing on the cake
The last two lines 'My city walks behind me. They mutter death, and my shadow falls as evidence of sunlight' This can easily be mistaken for something else but what this actually is, and this is the sad but incredible part, is that she is on a death march(a forced march of prisoners of war or other captives or deportees in which individuals are left to die along the way) 'her city' is referenced not THE city which means she's talking about her own view of the city with the people she knows (who were most probably all Armenian) trudging in the sand behind her. Then the people muttering death makes sense as obviously they are coughing and wheezing as there would be no breaks in a death march; finally the saddest part of all is the final image of the narrator falling to the ground 'as evidence of sunlight', this has a double meaning as she could've been the symbol of hope of the dawn of a new day or that could've been the idea behind the imagery of a child, nevertheless that all gets shattered, as the second interpretation suggests, as this would propose that she has fallen to the ground and died of exhaustion
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valid theory, only the last lines say "my city hides behind me" not walks so im not sure the death march is still applicable
I would argue that 'city' is a metaphor representing everything in the character's childhood; friends, family, experiences, her feelings about that childhood, and the physical city. If you look at the poem with this in mind, many lines begin to make sense for example "I comb it's hair and love its shining eyes". also, if you consider 'city' to exclusively mean a literal city, then "my city takes me dancing through the city of walls" is nonsensical.
better than mr bruff I reckon
yeah definitely, a shame that his videos are so long though. If he had the notes on the screen it would've made my revision so much easier! Top top analysis though
Khalid RAZA ouch 😂
L mr bruff did a 1h video for the prelude
each teacher is good in their own way, comparing them wont make u look better honestly u people need to learn how to appreciate. Both Mr Bruff and Mr Salles have put the time in making these videos to help students, and thats for free as well, so pls stop saying one is better than the other, they are both really good!
'Every coloured molecule' could be a reference to light- you have white light when all the colours merge together (that's why you get the colours of the rainbow when you split the light using a prism)
A great observation. Can you link it to the imagery of light elsewhere in the poem?
@@MrSallesTeachesEnglish the city as a whole seems to be at one with light, and the speaker's identity is inextricably linked with the city. However, this stanza focusses on language; language is but one part of our identity, just like one colour is but one of seven colours needed to create white light.
Thank you so much! I love how short and concise it is
the way my brain was continuously being blown and jaw kept dropping further with each further analysis you said omg your ideas are so clever
Glad they are helping!
I initially really struggled with this poem so thank you!
SO GOOD thank you for the idea of referencing the cold war and Hungary and Czechoslovakia as potential places she might have come from ( one of my gcse history topics is Cold War so good revision for that) but genius interpretation as Rumens never really specified the place and was born in London
Would you say that this poem can be compared to Checking Out Me History, in terms of how power is shown?
Give it a go!
You have the best revision videos by far!!!!!
That's lovely of you to say so, thank you!
really helpful interpretations! On the topic of themes and how you said conflict physically and how she has conflict of memory, i would have also said she had a inner conflict and how she is trying to fight with herself on the reality of her country
Hello Mr Salles, I hope you and your family are doing well. Do you do or know anyone that can teach one to one English as I am desperate to gain the right education needed to get a grade 7-9. If not then no worries. I really enjoy your videos they are extremely helpful and easy to understand.
thank you, great video really helped :)
Is paperweight not literally something that holds down paper? Isn't saying it's an oxymoron of a heavy paper extreme ?
Really perceptive analysis though, thanks a lot for your help. God bless.
No problem. Yes, you are right about the literal meanining, and you can decide if the symbolic interpretation works for you or not.
Thank you, this was really helpful!
JellyBubble Bear thank you.
Great video, better than Bruff
This was extremely helpful
a further point about the babushka doll, apparently they represent a mother carrying a child and so on, so can be interpreted as a representation of generations of women.
therefore could you link that in and suggest that the simile 'like a hollow doll' could represent some sort of discomfort with carrying her genetic lineage away from home?
Mr Salles, just wondering, if we are talking about Emigree can we say:
The conflict is shown between positive imagery such as "white streets" and negative imagery "tanks", " tyrants". The positive imagery implies the power of love towards the city that the persona in the poem has and the negative imagery supports the hatred and conflict which has overwhelmed the "city".
Can I talk about POWER OF LOVE in the power and conflict cluster or not as it's more suitable to Love and Relationship cluster.
Your analysis works well, and you can certainly write about the power of love in the power and conflict anthology
Thank You for your help Sir!
This is better than going through it slowly
Thanks, I will make more like this then.
one of the greatest analysis videos ive ever seen wow
Wow, high praise! Thank you very much - I struggle with this poem.
@@MrSallesTeachesEnglish Well I definitely couldn't tell that you were struggling! I wanted to ask: are you going to do romeo and juliet, lord of the flies and jekyll and hyde predictions this year?! If so, please make them asap. many thanks
This video was so helpful, especially as The Emigrée is a poem I always avoid revising. I just have one question: I love the interpretation that the poem could represent leaving childhood, but how could you link this interpretation to power and conflict? Thank you so much for all of the insightful videos!
The conflict is with the loss of that childhood, through geography and age. Equally, the power of childhood is the effect on her now, either as light or shadow, depending on how you interpret the ending.
Thank you!
Power of opinion... compare to kamikaze? the power of the opinions of people make the kamikaze guy's life miserable. The power of the opinion of the emigree and her country help her bear with the struggles of being in a foreign country
Hello mr salles I just wanted to say that this was a great video.
However there was a slight mistake at 8:09 ; the soviet union actually collapsed/dissolved in 1991 ( and not 1989).
How would I compare this poem to another in terms of the theme of identity, i.e what's an overall point I could use when comparing it to a poem like Poppies or Kamikaze? Thanks :)
Decide what the poet's voew of identity is, and then see if it is similar to the other poem
Mr Salles Teaches English okay, thanks :) would it be valid to suggest that Rumens is presenting identity as vitally necessary to a person's sense of belonging, but at the same time that the pursuit of it is ultimately damaging?
Riannon Chaplin Yes, that would be a really interesting thesis for your essay. I’d like to read it!
When it comes to learning a few lines of the poems for the exam, how do you know which lines to learn?
and how many should we learn?
Watch any of my quick fire poetry videos on which 5 quotes for each poem
thank you, have you made these quick fire poetry videos for all the poems in the Belonging section?@@MrSallesTeachesEnglish
Hey, could you do a video on Caroline Duffy 'Before you were mine'? :)
Thank you so much! This has helped a lot! Is it possible for you to do this with Checking Out Me History and Tissue?
Yes, I think I already have about 4 videos on Tissue - it is the hardest of the poems. I will get round to making one on Checking Out Me History
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thanku!
What poem would you compare this with?
Kamikaze- power of opinion, identity, opinion, loss. Poppies- Loss, memory
thank you su much.
sir what can u say about it may be filld with tyrants??
Whatever you want really
@@MrSallesTeachesEnglish but i am not sure what to say about it.
@@marymmoon1190 Pick a different quote you can write about then!
Exam on Monday 🔥🔥
5:50 even cleaner!
2:27
I love it omf
very hard poem
Prefer it short as takes so long otherwise, thanks :)
oxy mouron :I
If the poem tomorrow is on the emigree I will be so happy
Or Ozymandias hopefully.
I’m dying inside I’m panicking