"Is this Labour's first big mistake?" | James O'Brien on LBC

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  • čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
  • With winter fuel payments scrapped for ten million pensioners as part of Chancellor Rachel Reeves' cuts to fill a "black hole" in public finances, James O'Brien asks:
    'Does this mark the first big misstep of Keir Starmer's government?'
    Rachel Reeves said: "I'm making the difficult decision that those not in receipt of pension credit or certain other means-tested benefits will no longer receive the winter fuel payment from this year onwards.
    "The Government will continue to provide winter fuel payments worth £200 for households receiving a pension credit of £300 to households in receipt of pension credit with someone over the age of 80.
    "Let me be clear, this is not a decision I wanted to make, nor is it the one that I expected to make, but these are the necessary and urgent decisions that I must make."
    00:53 - James O'Brien believes 'the government have got this wrong'.
    08:15 - Caller Lesley shares her mother Isabel's situation, explaining that she is 'pennies over the threshold'.
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Komentáře • 986

  • @brendaseward-k3q
    @brendaseward-k3q Před 21 dnem +72

    If there is short of money MPs need to stop using tax payers money to heat their homes they get 98,000 pounds a year pay WHY DO THEY NEED IT

    • @danh5637
      @danh5637 Před 20 dny +1

      @@brendaseward-k3q it’s the constituency home. It’s a work expense. Same as in any job.

    • @slimetimetv8517
      @slimetimetv8517 Před 19 dny +7

      They don't need it.its their perk.should be ashamed to take it.

    • @slimetimetv8517
      @slimetimetv8517 Před 19 dny +4

      ​@@danh5637what the same in any job.!I can't remember getting any expenses.

    • @danh5637
      @danh5637 Před 19 dny +2

      @@slimetimetv8517 if you’re doing things for your job. You get work expenses. If you spend petrol travelling to clients for instance you claim that back on your work expenses. It’s fairly standard. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Frederique41
      @Frederique41 Před 18 dny +2

      I agree 32k a year is more than enough

  • @Skylark_Jones
    @Skylark_Jones Před 21 dnem +59

    Money is only tight when the govt wants to withhold money from the public; it's never right when it's for the rich.

  • @roystonellis6909
    @roystonellis6909 Před 21 dnem +117

    The UK has one of the smallest pension in Europe. Where’s all the money gone?

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem

      Remaining.

    • @hughiemg2
      @hughiemg2 Před 21 dnem +2

      The UK also has a much lower NI rate than other countries and a favourable tax regime to encourage people to pay the tax savings in to private pensions. You reap what you sow.

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq Před 21 dnem +7

      Tax havens.coutts bank accounts.just asking the question that needs to be asked.

    • @kweenadafool
      @kweenadafool Před 21 dnem +12

      Oh and the rich usually don't pay their fair share

    • @Man_fay_the_Bru
      @Man_fay_the_Bru Před 21 dnem +9

      New arrivals& there hotels, that’s where

  • @paulbird3235
    @paulbird3235 Před 21 dnem +166

    As a pensioner who has just lost winter fuel payment, and who fully supported this government being elected. What really upset me was that after just a week Racheal Reeves took it on herself to cancel this payment, she didnt even wait to see what these price rises would be. This policy was decided on, before even one ballot was cast.

    • @richardhowlett4097
      @richardhowlett4097 Před 21 dnem +35

      I am in the same frame of mind and in the same situation. On hearing about this disastrous move, I immediately cancelled my membership of the party, and I hope thousands of others have done the same. Why did they not increase tax on capital gains and the outrageous bonuses paid to the greedy CEOs. Surely a measly 1% extra would have covered it? Instead they pick on the poor pensioners again. I will never vote for these turncoats again, the tory rabble did it often enough, without labour starting the same practises. She should be ashamed of herself.

    • @brianharris7243
      @brianharris7243 Před 21 dnem +11

      Of course it was decided beforehand- that's called planning. It is correct to means test this subsidy. I too am a pensioner- if you need it you'll get it.

    • @brianharris7243
      @brianharris7243 Před 21 dnem +9

      @@richardhowlett4097 really? Cancelled your membership like a whiny child- I don't believe you- if you were a member you've now lost any say in policy.

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 Před 21 dnem +8

      @@brianharris7243 I beg to differ, everyone has a different financial position. You say you are a pensioner, do you pay £600.00 a month rent!.

    • @MrPutin-e7v
      @MrPutin-e7v Před 21 dnem +5

      So you saying that the politicans lied ? 😮 i am shocked I tell you

  • @bethanduke2566
    @bethanduke2566 Před 21 dnem +132

    I just want the prices set back to normal and the companies making stupidly big profits put straight and limited to what they can make us pay the fat cats,

    • @cassandratq9301
      @cassandratq9301 Před 21 dnem +6

      THIS is the solution.

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead Před 21 dnem +8

      They won't tax themselves will they, they are all multi millionaires on the Labour front bench. They will smash pensioners instead. Taxing state pension, lump sums, and taking away the fuel payment. Whilst Starmer has organised himself a tax free pension.

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 Před 21 dnem +7

      Labour said they would control these price hikes, I wonder if these MP's will still be claiming for their 'SECOND HOMES'. Are Labour really the party of the working class, or just wolves in sheeps clothing.

    • @tekkn_579
      @tekkn_579 Před 21 dnem

      Not how inflation works unfortunately

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead Před 21 dnem +3

      @@paulbird3235 They are claiming for their second homes, it's free electric and Gas too. Kerching!

  • @spangoz1000
    @spangoz1000 Před 21 dnem +38

    As a card carrying member of the Labour party, I was shocked by this.
    Goes against all the party stands for, if revenue is needed to be raised go after the rich not the poor.

    • @user-mj5bl5dy1b
      @user-mj5bl5dy1b Před 20 dny +1

      Starmer needs to act on this,energy comps targeting the poor

    • @AKHill-gj2uy
      @AKHill-gj2uy Před 20 dny +2

      The Labour party is supposed to stand for not having anyone be poor.

    • @jamesandrade1668
      @jamesandrade1668 Před 20 dny +3

      But you must know that this is not the Labour Party, but a party which first called itself ‘New Labour’, in 1997, Mrs Thatcher’s greatest achievement! 9:22

    • @maureenchallener1529
      @maureenchallener1529 Před 19 dny

      They said they was another li got to go

    • @ellismarshall-grant3319
      @ellismarshall-grant3319 Před 19 dny

      More fool you for actually being a member

  • @Charlieb6308
    @Charlieb6308 Před 19 dny +21

    The first mistake was people voting for them.

  • @gearoftones8585
    @gearoftones8585 Před 18 dny +9

    Well you backed him, James. Starmer is your darling despite breaking every single pledge but you still backed him and now you're surprised he's breaking more?

  • @christinavuyk2026
    @christinavuyk2026 Před 21 dnem +45

    Remember when ‘Warm banks’ used to be called ‘Libraries’ 🤔🤨

  • @SB-el8ox
    @SB-el8ox Před 21 dnem +152

    If money is so tight, increase the tax for the billionaires.

    • @keirmitchell5560
      @keirmitchell5560 Před 21 dnem +12

      ye because they will stick around. how about stop giving money out for free. Scrap benefits and child allowance. reduce tax and more people will have more money.

    • @nitsujism
      @nitsujism Před 21 dnem +24

      ​@@keirmitchell5560If the billionaires and large corps aren't being taxed properly then you're giving them money for free. People and entities that ostensibly don't need it.

    • @allykhan8594
      @allykhan8594 Před 21 dnem +5

      Why? Go work for your money!

    • @limpethead
      @limpethead Před 21 dnem +4

      @nitsujism that's the sort of thing the idle say. Tossed it off their whole life, never invested in an alarm clock.

    • @nitsujism
      @nitsujism Před 21 dnem +8

      @@limpethead That doesn't make it not true though. My statement holds with or without a welfare system or 'idle' whataboutery.

  • @Billywizz1950
    @Billywizz1950 Před 21 dnem +25

    Big big mistake Tax the rich more!!!

    • @boywonder6659
      @boywonder6659 Před 19 dny

      Just have a smaller government.
      We wouldn’t need to be taxed so much then.

    • @Ipdex
      @Ipdex Před 18 dny

      Why? Because you're not rich and/or a benefits scrounger?

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny +2

      @@Ipdex What a berk. The rich have got so much richer over the last decade and the poor have become even poorer. That's why.

  • @davidtomkins2542
    @davidtomkins2542 Před 21 dnem +43

    The truth is energy is overpriced as a direct result of government incompetence

    • @mjl2904
      @mjl2904 Před 21 dnem +9

      The PREVIOUS government

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem

      More specifically remaining.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable Před 21 dnem

      because the tories sold it off. and lets not forget this was done before anyone under 50 could vote!

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable Před 21 dnem +1

      @@richardgallagher4880 leaving the EU hiked our energy costs. remaining kept them lower.

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem

      @kanedNunable
      🇺🇦remain x4 our gas price.
      It cost us 400bn in the first 6months.
      Why lie?

  • @JohnCatto
    @JohnCatto Před 21 dnem +21

    MPs get their entire fuel bill paid, all we want is a little help to pay the bills. People should be able to opt out if they feel they don't need the payment.

    • @dianefarnden8577
      @dianefarnden8577 Před 20 dny

      @Johncatto
      Only if they have to have a second home to fulfil their duties. It is often cheaper than paying travelling and hotel costs.If they have this then they can't claim hotel costs when in Westminster. London MPs cannot claim.

    • @stuartregan1627
      @stuartregan1627 Před 20 dny +2

      Taking off pensioners on half the minimum wage & give it to themselves on 90k a year with expenses on top. These people have no moral compass.

  • @holymoly6829
    @holymoly6829 Před 21 dnem +30

    I loose fuel allowance Even with it last winter I wore winter clothing in my flat I’m 72 and I’m over the ceiling with income I’m dreading this winter coming I’ve also got worsening health issues I’m a lifelong Labour Party member I’m gutted
    Why punish the loyal people who voted labour back in power
    As an aside What about Dido Harding £37billion
    Along with Lady Moan £280million etc etc Clawing that back would make a start in making savings in the countries deficits

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem +1

      It's your fault we're in this mess.

    • @richardhowlett4097
      @richardhowlett4097 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@richardgallagher4880 No it is not, it's corrupt tory governments who created these problems. Everything they did was to make the wealthy filthy rich and the workers poorer. They succeeded and achieved their goal.

    • @holymoly6829
      @holymoly6829 Před 21 dnem

      @@richardgallagher4880 🤡🤡🤡

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@richardgallagher4880 Why??? And this remark is horrible.

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem

      @annepoitrineau5650
      You don't know what it is that you thinks horrible?

  • @leewooler8033
    @leewooler8033 Před 20 dny +12

    If your £5 over the threshold then pay them £5 less on their winter payment don’t deny them any payment at all

    • @slimetimetv8517
      @slimetimetv8517 Před 19 dny +2

      @@leewooler8033 now that's too sensible for politicians to have thought about.they might even have thought about raising the threshholds.oh no that's too sensible as well.

  • @paulinedownie557
    @paulinedownie557 Před 21 dnem +33

    The level is set to low. I get the basic pension of £168 per week ,my small works pension takes me above the level for pension credit or any other help. I worked and paid all dues the government took out my weekly wage, plus I paid into my works pension scheme. I'm 78 years old suffer ill health and absolutely disgusted that we are being treated like this by a government that is supposed to represent/treat every British citizen equally. Shame on this Labour government,every Labour MP in Westminster, for allowing this to happen. Are they all to scared to speak out or do they agree with this , that's a question I'd really like publicly answered.

    • @jackperry2821
      @jackperry2821 Před 21 dnem +1

      The problem is, you can't justify NOT scrapping the two child benefit limit, but keep giving handouts to pensioners.
      Pensioners have had their entire life to save for the situation of them getting old. A baby is just born so doesn't even have that opportunity.
      Everyone's going to have to pay for this mess finally that's been kicked down the road. I think the free £300 is going to be peanuts compared to how much working people are going to have to pay and, hopefully, how much the wealthiest who got us in this problem will pay.
      But we should be glad someone is finally addressing the issues, not just pleading ignorant and more tax cuts etc.

    • @richardhowlett4097
      @richardhowlett4097 Před 21 dnem +4

      @@jackperry2821 That's assuming people were paid enough to be able to save for the future. I went to work to earn enough money to be able to go to work the next week. Wages were low and there were no pension schemes for workers in the jobs that I did. I was happy that deductions from my wages were to pay for national health insurance for the NHS and my pension. The trouble is that over the years, several governments have cut pensions a few times, rather than hit the higher earners with a small rise in tax. The tories lied, so why can't labour raise tax?

    • @stuartregan1627
      @stuartregan1627 Před 20 dny +5

      @@richardhowlett4097 No they have had a life of paying sky high taxes to receive the lowest pension in the western world.

    • @slimetimetv8517
      @slimetimetv8517 Před 19 dny +2

      @@jackperry2821 well let's see how much you save for your retirement as you go through life paying your taxes and household bills see how you fair on a pension .hope you save as much as you hoped .life often throws curveballs your way.and you may need to dig into savings as travel down that long winding path.

    • @jackperry2821
      @jackperry2821 Před 19 dny

      @@stuartregan1627 we are paying more tax now than ever
      @slimetime I will, I’m not against the heating help, but if we can’t pay for a extra child, we can’t pay for people who had all their life to save.
      It’s a big shock as the tories have been cotton wooling pensioners as their the biggest voter base, but that time has ended.

  • @gillian9178
    @gillian9178 Před 21 dnem +9

    Take the energy allowance away for MP's second houses, Why should they receive this benifit when there on a minimum of £85000 a year + a lot more for minister. Not to mention the 2nd & 3rd jobs MP's have, 12 million pensioners will have there revenge on Starmer & Labour. Wait & see.

  • @kevinberrett
    @kevinberrett Před 21 dnem +53

    A couple with 2 children can earn £120000 and receive over£40 a week in child benefits , a pensioner whose income is above £215 a week loses the winter fuel benefit, something not right there😮😮😮😮

    • @WotsisFace
      @WotsisFace Před 20 dny

      And we had the same old helpful message from that absolute shill Martin Lewis…
      “Hello I’m Martin Lewis. You’re being totally robbed yet again by people who are going to keep taking and taking until you have nothing left. But don’t worry because I’m delighted to let you know, I have a way to make it much easier for them to destroy your life… so listen carefully..”
      It’s insane how so many people confuse this guy for somebody who’s trying to help us…

    • @MattBooth
      @MattBooth Před 20 dny +7

      The couple's taxes are paying for the pensioner's pension

    • @kevinberrett
      @kevinberrett Před 20 dny +7

      So where did the tax go to that today's pensioners paid all their working lives

    • @MattBooth
      @MattBooth Před 20 dny +4

      @@kevinberrett to pensioners claiming their pension at the time? I'm 37 and probably won't even get a state pension. I agree they deserve a state pension after working and paying in all their lives but the fact is millions of pensioners don't need the payment (and millions do). Something needs to be done that meets everyone's needs

    • @stuartregan1627
      @stuartregan1627 Před 20 dny +4

      @@MattBooth Pensioners have already paid their taxes for decades to receive a livable pension. Not one half the minimum wage.

  • @brianferguson7840
    @brianferguson7840 Před 21 dnem +96

    I am a pensioner! I have two work related pensions and receive nearly twice the average wage each year. I have no mortgage so, why should I get free public transport and a heating allowance when some young "working" people don't have enough to feed their children or pay rent. I have greedy friends who get new glasses each year just because they are free.

    • @cornishmaid9138
      @cornishmaid9138 Před 21 dnem +24

      You are part of the few who receive extra pension. I bet you never once returned the winter fuel allowance you received though, did you? Even though you admit you never needed it you took it anyway. Hypocrisy stench.

    • @brianferguson7840
      @brianferguson7840 Před 21 dnem +33

      ​@@cornishmaid9138
      I give the fuel allowance to my local hospice, and I have never had a bus pass I buy my ticket for each journey, I also buy a TV licence.

    • @BrokenHill56
      @BrokenHill56 Před 21 dnem +7

      Exactly, many of us share your sentiments

    • @gerryrr93
      @gerryrr93 Před 21 dnem +2

      Thats 1 example in an entire country

    • @brianferguson7840
      @brianferguson7840 Před 21 dnem +12

      Also pensioners in the UK as a demographic are the richest section of society. Admittedly in many cases this is due to the ridiculous profits we have made from property while youngsters can't even rent.

  • @mikeee7425
    @mikeee7425 Před 21 dnem +14

    Thousands of pensioners cheered and clapped for Starmer at the Labour conferences, I wonder if they would now?😂

    • @miker3039
      @miker3039 Před 20 dny +1

      Same for Boris , same for truss, same for Cameron…… Uncle Nigel is no different

  • @paulwilliams4990
    @paulwilliams4990 Před 20 dny +6

    The Govt would rather send £11b abroad in so called aid while their own population freezes. Don’t forget this.

    • @IrfanAli-qp1gm
      @IrfanAli-qp1gm Před 16 dny +1

      Don't blame the other - and old tactic on blaming immigrants , asylum seekers and foreigners.

    • @Pcaddictt
      @Pcaddictt Před 12 dny

      @@IrfanAli-qp1gm this is not blaming them, its blaming a government that will spend those billions abroad to many countries that dont need it, they are not means tested instead of spending it in house to warm our pensioners.

  • @mullahosk585
    @mullahosk585 Před 19 dny +2

    Rachael Reeves has probably never had to worry about heating in her life.

  • @user-ug1te5yc2d
    @user-ug1te5yc2d Před 21 dnem +10

    I’m a pensioner and if I’m really honest, I don’t need that extra £300, but maybe the threshold for pension credits should be raised.

    • @Ipdex
      @Ipdex Před 18 dny

      I'm in the same boat. I was a tory but voted reform this time. I remember when I had my daughter and was working on the oil rigs I didn't need child support but couldn't give it back. I'm a pensioner now and but don't receive the £300 anyways, but I also wouldn't;t need it and would have tried to return it. But - Labour will just use that money to give it to benefits scroungers and public sector workers - they're voting base. This will be the worst Govt we've had for decades.

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      @@Ipdex Really, what do you think of the last fourteen years? All hunky dory?

    • @michaelabarnes3612
      @michaelabarnes3612 Před 14 dny

      It's easy to do it on a sliding scale. They already do it with universal credit for people who work, the tech capability exists so there's no reason they can't.

  • @paulneedham3608
    @paulneedham3608 Před 21 dnem +14

    Aa a Labour voter. I an honestly disappointed and disgusted with Labour. If they don't sort this out I don't think I could support them again. But will never vote Conservative.

    • @ExplorewithSarahlouise
      @ExplorewithSarahlouise Před 21 dnem +2

      Reform!

    • @haaaaaay
      @haaaaaay Před 20 dny

      they won't sort it, they're in the pockets of the rich. I was a Labour voter too but refused to vote for this iteration, people were warned that they'd be just as bad as the tories....I voted Green at the last election and encourage you to do the same

  • @JulieWinter-p4c
    @JulieWinter-p4c Před 21 dnem +8

    It keeps people out of the hospital Scotland did a trial, paying for patience fuel bills and it kept them out of, hospital

  • @maryotoole7389
    @maryotoole7389 Před 21 dnem +20

    I’m not a labour fan but I thought they were for the poor but let’s face it take it away and then the heating price goes up this is why Scotland calls them the red torys

  • @leet3207
    @leet3207 Před 21 dnem +18

    When Starmer was asked 'Westminster or Davos', without hesitation he said Davos.

  • @yt.personal.identification
    @yt.personal.identification Před 21 dnem +8

    A truly wealthy country should be able to guarantee a minimum standard of living for everyone.
    For that to be guaranteed at all times, then it must be for EVERYONE.

  • @patmackenney9786
    @patmackenney9786 Před 21 dnem +11

    How about the MPs take a hit too, let them give up their second home allowances. And ffs tax the super rich.

    • @jdizzle1779
      @jdizzle1779 Před 20 dny

      The rich have already started leaving the UK. 3 of my very well off russian neighbours left this summer.

  • @Contraster671
    @Contraster671 Před 16 dny +2

    This is reality. I can’t get help so the £300 has gone. Now the cap has gone up so I’m hit by £500. Then I lost the extra payment from the conservatives so in two years I’m down £790 on a pension of £2400 over that three month winter period. I can’t do without any more food, so I have to go out and collect sticks from the woods for a fire. At 80 I’m worse off than my Nan was after the war years. It’s shocking.

  • @leiwarl
    @leiwarl Před 5 dny +1

    This is an own goal by the Labour party which will come back to haunt them…one way or another.

  • @jamesedwards7241
    @jamesedwards7241 Před 21 dnem +7

    With the fuel prices rises set to bounce upwards approaching £180 shortly Labour chose this time to remove this benefit for pensioners leaves a severe sour taste when the public is well aware that energy companies are, and there can be no doubt about this, gouging the customers for all they are worth making massively obscene profits and that this is actually being facilitated by the government is a double kick in the nuts for the public.
    That these energy companies will then go on to take full advantage of offshores to engineer tax breaks only adds to the insult when you understand that had we remained in the EU they would be forced to pay their due taxes in the country they earned them, in this case the Uk because they are certainly not getting away with this in any of the EU countries.

  • @RichardSpain-lz9cf
    @RichardSpain-lz9cf Před 21 dnem +8

    Just send your energy bills to Baroness Moane

  • @danielmikula1375
    @danielmikula1375 Před 21 dnem +5

    People often forget that means testing requires administrative costs in themselves. Sometimes the obsession with means testing means that money that could be given to someone who doesn't need it so much instead disappears into the bureaucracy.

  • @jefflloyd8277
    @jefflloyd8277 Před 20 dny +3

    10 million won’t vote labour next time

  • @gillbrown4077
    @gillbrown4077 Před 21 dnem +27

    800,000 households who are eligible do not claim pension credit. So the poorest of pensioners will suffer most.
    Tax the rich.....

    • @AlejandroMonteagudo
      @AlejandroMonteagudo Před 21 dnem +2

      What do you want to bet thst it is the rich, who have accountants, who are claiming for this bennefit

    • @gillbrown4077
      @gillbrown4077 Před 21 dnem

      @@AlejandroMonteagudo it was sent automatically to everyone receiving a state pension.

    • @mah5262
      @mah5262 Před 21 dnem +1

      Isn't that kinda their fault? They should be claiming what they're entitled to

    • @gillbrown4077
      @gillbrown4077 Před 21 dnem

      @@mah5262 fault and blame should not obscure reality.

    • @mah5262
      @mah5262 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@gillbrown4077 Fault and blame are key factors of reality

  • @steveaga4683
    @steveaga4683 Před 20 dny +5

    The issue is simply that a full state pension is way below the National Living Wage! How can that be?

  • @brendagibb4879
    @brendagibb4879 Před 21 dnem +7

    Labour should be ashamed of what they have done to pensioners shame on them absolutely disgusting and appalling 😢

  • @bigredsock1
    @bigredsock1 Před 21 dnem +36

    There is a debate to be had on where you draw the line, but we have got to stop thinking that all pensioners are hard up and on the tipping point of poverty. I've met plenty of pensioners who take cruises or half a dozen holidays each year who do not need the winter fuel allowance.

    • @DilbertWhitehead
      @DilbertWhitehead Před 21 dnem +7

      And how many are on Universal Credit who shouldn't be? And in social housing but still holidaying throughout the year? The priorities are all wrong, as usual with the party of envy

    • @Tr1ckady
      @Tr1ckady Před 21 dnem +6

      No social housing and a large percentage of pensioners font have housing costs. Therefore, drop payments to the large amount that have financial stability and remove it for the rest. I won't go on about cutting back or don't buy the tv times etc. Just help those that done have the income to cover those bills, which is what is being done. The Tories have created this situation. Why is everyone so sore that Labour now has to make cuts on wealthier pensioners.

    • @firebyrd437
      @firebyrd437 Před 21 dnem +4

      ​@@Tr1ckadyI would say it's because it's punching down instead of punching up at the real scroungers, big business's and corporations. Reeves claimed thousands in fuel costs, does she need that money, she earns enough to pay for it herself using the logic of pensioners who are to rich to get the winter fuel allowance that she is using herself. In simpler terms it's hypocrisy

    • @IMBlakeley
      @IMBlakeley Před 21 dnem +5

      The first people they gunned for were the elderly and disabled. Now if they'd decided to make their corporate mates pay more and the super wealthy and then realise they might need to cut some benefits at least they'd thought about it but no, straight for the most vulnerable.

    • @helenamcginty4920
      @helenamcginty4920 Před 21 dnem +2

      Plenty? I struggle to pay the bus fare into town.

  • @ikhan3601
    @ikhan3601 Před 19 dny +2

    Simple Solution: Cost of shopping, rent, living has doubles. So, the wages and pensions need to be doibled ro keep!.
    What is te point of having pay or pension increased if they do not kept up with RPI!..

  • @GerryT.
    @GerryT. Před 21 dnem +7

    Every pensioner who has a Labour MP should contact them them that if they stop the winter fuel paymemts then they have list their vote. Starmer woukd jave to take notice if his MPs had been bombarded with angry pensioners.

    • @YakovShani
      @YakovShani Před 20 dny

      No one would take notice, once they are in they stay in and will never give up power by relenting to public pressure. They are glued to their seats and care not if you freeze your marbles off.

    • @maureenchallener1529
      @maureenchallener1529 Před 19 dny

      Don’t care but they will!!

  • @Christopher12345xy
    @Christopher12345xy Před 21 dnem +14

    Unfortunately I think Labour will be the final nail in the coffin for this country, I believe the poor will keep getting poorer and will be taxed even more. I unfortunately see know future here for anyone to get ahead and I will be leaving this country within the next year.

    • @ExplorewithSarahlouise
      @ExplorewithSarahlouise Před 21 dnem +2

      I would like to leave too I knew starmer was terrible news but even I didn’t realise it would nose dive this quick

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      How long have you been thinking about this?

  • @hazelclarke8142
    @hazelclarke8142 Před 20 dny +3

    I can not stand this man! He flip flops more than Starmer! He is playing the caring card
    for this episode! What's the matter? Too many people stating how arrogant and bias he usually is, and downright rude & obnoxious!!!

    • @TraderInTheLab
      @TraderInTheLab Před 19 dny +1

      The fact he asked "is this the only solution - and is it fair?" says it all. - If the Tories did this he would tell everyone how utterly disgraceful it is. As its Labour his narrative is along the lines of "needs must". So blindly obvious its embarrassing.

  • @johnrussell3961
    @johnrussell3961 Před 21 dnem +29

    All this anger over 2bn. Just tax O’Brian more.

    • @DilbertWhitehead
      @DilbertWhitehead Před 21 dnem +2

      @johnrussell3961 I'm not sure you can tax virtue can you? If so, we'd be able to get plenty from his ilk!

    • @leekelly9639
      @leekelly9639 Před 21 dnem +2

      O’Brien, his name is literally in front of you.. and as for taxing he’ll probably like it..

  • @Tigger-roo1234
    @Tigger-roo1234 Před 21 dnem +9

    My dad is 5 pounds over the threshhold so cant claim pension credits. If he claimed PC he would get free council tax, free prescriptions glasses dental etc.. he is £5 over so pays for all of this in full and loses his winter fuel payment .. has already used his savings.. this is so wrong

    • @brusselssprouts560
      @brusselssprouts560 Před 21 dnem +1

      I am 63a nd not in receipt of the SRP yet, but I don't pay for prescriptions, so how come your dad does?

    • @violetlondon5497
      @violetlondon5497 Před 21 dnem

      Where is his income coming from? Can’t you draw down the capital by buying something “necessary”? Then his income can legally by reduced to below the cut-off.

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      @@violetlondon5497 The full state pension is over the threshold by about a fiver.

  • @dawngibson2640
    @dawngibson2640 Před 21 dnem +4

    Either lower fuel bills at source from greedy energy giants. Or higher the pension credit cap limit. And drop politicians income. Bring it in line with someone who really work for a living. Or is that to difficult of a decision to make. Labour are becoming the voice of toryism.

  • @tombartram7384
    @tombartram7384 Před 21 dnem +3

    What happened to all this free money they were gonna collect from billionaires?

  • @keepongolfing
    @keepongolfing Před 19 dny +2

    Why don’t they stop the energy companies charging so much we need to take back the energy companies the benefits are going straight to the stock exchange i sympathise with the pensioners who will struggle but we’re all struggling paying bills it’s crucial we do something about the energy suppliers and the way they conduct their business and finance

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před 15 dny

      That's set in legislation, Tory legislation.

  • @roywoodrow1651
    @roywoodrow1651 Před 18 dny +2

    if this was tories you’d be going mad , but no you make excuses !

  • @Srikstar
    @Srikstar Před 21 dnem +5

    I was always worried that having inherited the worst economic situation and gross financial mismanagement and dubious PPC contracts, Labour Party will immediately be blamed for all the mess, that Tories were responsible for creating over 14 years. Labour is just 7 weeks old, and they are expected to solve all this mess, by a quick wave of their magic wand. Let us give them time, please🙏

    • @firebyrd437
      @firebyrd437 Před 21 dnem

      Oh for goodness sake they have various choices they can make, taxing the fuel companies massive profits or the billionaires who avoid paying their tax would be a better solution

    • @donincognito189
      @donincognito189 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@firebyrd437 Introducing new taxes/benefits or changing existing taxes/benefits requires legislation via a Finance Bill, aka a Budget. Labour need a few months in office before they can gather all the information they need to produce a budget - just look what happened when Kwasi Kwarteng cocked it up. Means testing an existing benefit can be done immediately without needing legislation. The Chancellor needed to show the money markets that she was going to act on the fiscal mess Labour inherited. It is quite possible that the taxes you suggest will feature in the October budget, which might leave room to minimise the pain of means testing the winter fuel allowance. But as many people have commented elsewhere, plenty of pensioners don't actually need the allowance.

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem

      They supported the cl0sedown😂😂😂
      They've also just lost 30trillion rejoining.
      Cope harder.

    • @Wimblefish
      @Wimblefish Před 21 dnem +2

      ​@richardgallagher4880 who's just lost £30T to rejoin where?

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      @@firebyrd437 Why weren't you bleating on about this a couple of months ago?

  • @action1976
    @action1976 Před 21 dnem +8

    Labour's biggest mistake? The biggest mistake was voting these muppets into power.

    • @spangoz1000
      @spangoz1000 Před 21 dnem +3

      Yes you stick with reform.

    • @Guyfaulkes1605
      @Guyfaulkes1605 Před 21 dnem +1

      ​@@spangoz1000they couldn't do any worse than the red torys

    • @bigprob8744
      @bigprob8744 Před 21 dnem +1

      After 14 years of the torys it was inevitable

    • @johnregan2443
      @johnregan2443 Před 12 dny

      ​@@Guyfaulkes1605it just has !

  • @pp1985ish
    @pp1985ish Před 16 dny +1

    Stop the MPs expenses and lower thier wage apparently minimum wage is livable. Prove it

  • @AlejandroMonteagudo
    @AlejandroMonteagudo Před 21 dnem +30

    All bennefits should be means tested. We can argue as to where that line is, but giving wealthy people free money simply because of age was tory pandering to scoping votes

    • @Silver-st2zq
      @Silver-st2zq Před 21 dnem +3

      Exactly.

    • @andybeans5790
      @andybeans5790 Před 21 dnem +2

      Yup

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable Před 21 dnem +3

      other benefits are means tested btw. just not ones for pensioners

    • @JoshF848
      @JoshF848 Před 21 dnem +1

      The cost of the means testing can often be higher than any savings from restricting it. It's one of the most compelling arguments for a UBI how much more efficiently the money would be spent.

  • @vanbrugh49
    @vanbrugh49 Před 21 dnem +13

    I have voted Labour most of my life, never again, I like many other people are just over the limit to receive pension credit. I won’t be putting my heating on this winter as the greedy fuel companies are putting up fuel costs by 10% shortly. These politicians won’t be suffering will they? I’m disgusted with Labour and they will never get my vote again.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 21 dnem +1

      Sorry, but your outrage is over the top. I am a pensioner and losing this will be felt, but I CAN stand it, and also I want the 2kids benefit cap to be scrapped. A lot of pensioners can stand it. The big question is: will this only apply to pensioners who can stand it?

  • @martywest6004
    @martywest6004 Před 21 dnem +12

    Its means tested, the rich pensioners dont need it and its sod all money anyway per household.

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 21 dnem +2

      Yes, but there are pensioners who are entitled to pension credits and are not getting them. It is therefore essential that these pensioners get what is owed them by law.

  • @edwardsmith8449
    @edwardsmith8449 Před 15 dny +1

    Have you got old folks living with you are you taking there money away from them and letting them die in the cold 🥶🥶

  • @rossspenser8314
    @rossspenser8314 Před 16 dny +3

    Trust Labour no way

  • @modestproposal9114
    @modestproposal9114 Před 18 dny +1

    This is what happens when you elect a right-wing government.

  • @stephengallagher8002
    @stephengallagher8002 Před 21 dnem +3

    The amount of the winter fuel payments is derisory given the rise in fuel prices, £200 doesn't touch it. I am a pensioner and I am "outraged" that the payment goes nowhere near touching the fuel charges for my (mortgage free 4 bedroom) house (Thanks LIz). This money should be targeted at all those who NEED it. £218.15 is way to low.

  • @Nemo59646
    @Nemo59646 Před 20 dny +2

    It would be better to have it on a sliding scale based on totality of income. I've cerebral palsy and circulatory problems my hands and feet are always cold.I worked and have a small occupational pension which just means I don't get pension credit as I'm £2 over the limit.

  • @Callofdootie
    @Callofdootie Před 21 dnem +12

    They can stop eating avocado toast and subscribing to Netflix first before they complain.

    • @jac1799
      @jac1799 Před 21 dnem

      Brilliant comment 👏🏻

    • @stevenpyne1994
      @stevenpyne1994 Před 21 dnem +3

      Oh, you are funny! You should be on the stage: sweeping it!

    • @jonathanboam5409
      @jonathanboam5409 Před 21 dnem +2

      That comment was so gammony I'm having it with pineapple

    • @mjl2904
      @mjl2904 Před 21 dnem +3

      Yeah because £215.88 per year (Netflix Premium subscription) saved is going to put a massive dent into a house deposit for this generation 😂😂😂

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq Před 21 dnem +2

      You should be on the stage,the next one out of town.

  • @Nemo59646
    @Nemo59646 Před 20 dny +5

    We should have a land tax on the rich.

    • @Ipdex
      @Ipdex Před 18 dny

      Why? Jealousy?

    • @Nemo59646
      @Nemo59646 Před 18 dny +3

      @@Ipdex Its the most effective way to tax the rich.

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny +1

      @@Nemo59646 Starting with Charlie

  • @grahamdennis2810
    @grahamdennis2810 Před 21 dnem +2

    Even tories didnt do this unbelievable

    • @theolddog5129
      @theolddog5129 Před 21 dnem

      Could that be because they relied on the pensioners' vote?

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      They skipped the triple lock when inflation went into double figures going against their 2019 manifesto pledge.

  • @abstract33
    @abstract33 Před 21 dnem +9

    So Pensioners' cold weather payment goes on slush money to appease rail workers and junior doctors etc

  • @berylgrinham7011
    @berylgrinham7011 Před 21 dnem +6

    O,BRIEN YOU SHOULD GIVE YOUR WAGES BACK AS YOUR NOT WORTH IT,ETHICS YOU HAVE NO ETHICS

  • @leekelly9639
    @leekelly9639 Před 21 dnem +17

    The only mistake Labour made was forgetting that the elderly are more likely to vote than the younger generation, that’s just facts, look at Brexit, the elderly mostly voted leave and the younger people are paying the price for it.

    • @Silver-st2zq
      @Silver-st2zq Před 21 dnem +4

      And how many have voted Tory for year, after year, after year.......

    • @Monkey_slapping_keys
      @Monkey_slapping_keys Před 21 dnem +1

      And which way do they vote?

    • @mah5262
      @mah5262 Před 21 dnem +1

      Well most still vote Tory

  • @user-ou3cq1gk9m
    @user-ou3cq1gk9m Před 20 dny +3

    Labour are not making “mistakes” under Kier Starmer, he knows exactly what he does,

  • @deelea2965
    @deelea2965 Před 17 dny

    The irony of it. When you are old and shivering through winter nights with the heating off, remember the Conservatives had enough heart to keep the elderly warm. Labor does not. Class war takes precedence.

  • @Mark_Something-Ermm-Yeah
    @Mark_Something-Ermm-Yeah Před 21 dnem +13

    Cap energy prices, bring back nationalised power, rail, water, stop private health care contracts and fund the NHS.

    • @hughiemg2
      @hughiemg2 Před 21 dnem +1

      Must be nice to live on a different planet.

    • @JohnPark-xf2gq
      @JohnPark-xf2gq Před 21 dnem

      Maybe nice to live on a planet where the tory media do not spout the proporganda that the tories always look after your interests instead of privatising in sight,which has devastated our infrastructure.

    • @Mark_Something-Ermm-Yeah
      @Mark_Something-Ermm-Yeah Před 21 dnem +2

      @@hughiemg2 it's easily done, especially after closing all tax loopholes and seizing assets of anyone trying to suddenly offshore money.

  • @Lynnpjjbdndji
    @Lynnpjjbdndji Před 21 dnem +11

    I have 2.3 million in the bank and I get the winter fuel allowance.... There is no system not to receive it. ... Madness !

    • @allykhan8594
      @allykhan8594 Před 21 dnem +5

      Give it to charity if u dont need it.

    • @firebyrd437
      @firebyrd437 Před 21 dnem +5

      That's very nice for you but there are millions who are poor even with a small occupational pension

    • @Wimblefish
      @Wimblefish Před 21 dnem

      ​@allykhan8594 how do you know they don't?

    • @allykhan8594
      @allykhan8594 Před 21 dnem

      @@Wimblefish he was complaining he had too much, giving the Too much away will eliviate his problem.

    • @kanedNunable
      @kanedNunable Před 21 dnem +1

      @@allykhan8594 still costing the rest of us a fortune to give our money to people who are more wealthy than us!

  • @xtranormalCARTOONS88
    @xtranormalCARTOONS88 Před 21 dnem +12

    I work in a casino, and a man who puts down 1-10k per day on roulette, somtimes 2k on just one spin, was complaining to me about labour taking away his £300 fuel allowance
    There are lots of people who do not need it and means testing is fair, but maybe in need of a system where if you are £5 over, you get £5 less, if youre 250 over the threshold, you only get £50 as a way to balence it

  • @paulwebster4499
    @paulwebster4499 Před 21 dnem +6

    Reeves was a lefty at Uni , one wonders if her time at the BOE turned her into an Osbourne economist

  • @paulbird3235
    @paulbird3235 Před 21 dnem +3

    Strange how this government are allowig these utility company's put up prices by over 9% (when inflation is suppose to be 2.5%) Yet on the other hand they think pesioners can afford to loose their fuel payment and pay the large price hike, stink's a bit "RICH" to me. 🤔😒😝......

  • @somewhereuk1957
    @somewhereuk1957 Před 21 dnem +1

    This was discussed on Nicky Campbell too... Seemingly applying for Pension credit is a (are you ready for this) 243 question document... to be filled in on line... one man very IT savvy had to fit it in for his father and it took him 4 months to get the payments... what about Mrs Smith 86 who doesn't do the internet. She's frail, no family around her, She has the heat on in one room only... meanwhile RR and Starmer and their kids have to turn the heating DOWN!!!!!

  • @SarahWalker-Smith
    @SarahWalker-Smith Před 20 dny +4

    Labour are sowing the seeds of discontent. What happened to the extra taxes energy companies making huge profits by price gouging were going to be made to pay ?

  • @barryfenwick609
    @barryfenwick609 Před 9 dny

    Cut the more than £3000 fuel allowance for MPs

  • @PaulDyas-y9h
    @PaulDyas-y9h Před 21 dnem +10

    First mistake?

  • @jimmoore9981
    @jimmoore9981 Před 18 dny

    The Labour Government have made a huge mistake by snatching the Winter Fuel Allowance from many vulnerable pensioners, most are not as wealthy or well off as many would have you believe. A large number of pensioners cannot apply for pension credit because their income can be over by a pound or two over the threshold. An answer would be to raise the threshold sensibly so that these pensioners do not fall through the net and not be punished for being old. No attempt has been made seemingly to undertake an impact assessment ignoring a high energy rise due this winter. Yes, I think this cruel action will damage Labour as it would the Tories if they were in power. You seem to think By-Elections won't make any difference as future people protest as they certainly will. But if their votes go to Reform, their larger presence could make it very uncomfortable for Kier Starmer. And once a Prime Minister flounders on the ropes it is hard to get off them. If there is a hard winter with a likelihood of significant cold-related deaths because of the cuts on Keir Starmer's policy, Labour may well not recover from the fury of the scandal.

  • @gcsecretsquirell
    @gcsecretsquirell Před 21 dnem +8

    I will not vote labour again! I’m not a pensioner but why punish people who need it???

    • @mah5262
      @mah5262 Před 21 dnem +1

      Those on benefits will still get it. The rest have assets and can afford to downsize

    • @Greengoblin-qk6kq
      @Greengoblin-qk6kq Před 21 dnem +1

      ​@@mah5262you're not right there's a lot of people who only just above the threshold and you've got to understand that these people have put money into the system all their life when you get older you will feel the same🤔

    • @mah5262
      @mah5262 Před 21 dnem +2

      @@Greengoblin-qk6kq "As of 2020, 79% of people aged 65 and older in England live in a home they own, with 74% owning outright and 4.6% paying off a mortgage"
      Most of them could downsize if they have trouble making up a £200 difference, no?

    • @annepoitrineau5650
      @annepoitrineau5650 Před 21 dnem +3

      Please do not forget what the tories did to everybody! It was much worse.

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      @@mah5262 So you want a person to move out of their family home because of a government policy? Some of those folk could have lived in their home all their lives.

  • @am4849
    @am4849 Před 8 dny

    Rishi Sunak suggested this and Keir Starmer blasted him for it. If the Tories had gone through with it James would be the first to call the heartless vultures lets be honest.

  • @MegaZayd1
    @MegaZayd1 Před 21 dnem +4

    The easist way to deal with who gets benefits that they need is to give it to everybody and let taxes sort out the difference. That way nibody has to check and everybody who needs it gets it. And those who dont need it pay out way more tax anyway

    • @JohnCox-ut3cv
      @JohnCox-ut3cv Před 21 dnem

      Yes. A universal basic income which covers all necessities - housing, food and energy. Then, as you say, let taxes sort everything else out.

  • @donelson52
    @donelson52 Před 21 dnem +2

    Wake up. If you are on pension credit you keep the winter fuel payments

  • @firebyrd437
    @firebyrd437 Před 21 dnem +4

    I'm totally disgusted by the many comments made about pensioners, the majority are not wealthy and have worked all their lives to get the smallest pension in Europe. A small occupational pension taking you just above the threshold for pension credit means that this winter when price rises are factored in that even with the winter fuel allowance you would just break even on heating costs from last year. Train drivers on average will get a pay rise averaging £8,000, the basic state pension is £8,400 but pensioners are the greedy ones. I'm now in the position of having to apply to see if I can claim pension credit, something I really don't really want to do and I find that upsetting.

  • @barbaramohammed152
    @barbaramohammed152 Před 20 dny

    Its not right James...labour is said to be for the poorer people of the uk...not any more.. sad to say...😢

  • @cornishmaid9138
    @cornishmaid9138 Před 21 dnem +17

    They never said in their manifesto they’d cut the winters fuel allowance for pensioners. Had they done so they would have lost the election. Not only would they have lost the gray vote, but also lost the votes of the families of pensioners.

    • @Ukandy19
      @Ukandy19 Před 21 dnem

      So they were dishonest so they didn’t lose the election. Can you hear yourself?

    • @DilbertWhitehead
      @DilbertWhitehead Před 21 dnem +6

      'Ask us no questions, we'll tell you no lies' & 'do as we say, not as we do' plus 'don't look here, look over there' are the Labour mottos

    • @McKamikazeHighlander
      @McKamikazeHighlander Před 21 dnem +2

      Most things are not in a party's manifesto

    • @KierStalin
      @KierStalin Před 21 dnem

      They're liars and criminals. The starmer regime is a disgrace

    • @Srikstar
      @Srikstar Před 21 dnem

      So what was your alternative? Tories, Reform? Lets face it, Tories deserved to lose and Labour got the opportunity to govern with more prudence, honesty and dignity than Tories. I would rather have a sincere, honest and truthful government rather than a lying, cheating and bunch of greedy politicians, trying to grease their palms, in evry crooked deals and contracts.

  • @barriewilliams4526
    @barriewilliams4526 Před 19 dny +2

    The *BIG* mistake was made by the people who voted for Labour, who are now finding what a lovely, cuddly party they are.....

  • @McKamikazeHighlander
    @McKamikazeHighlander Před 21 dnem +20

    These are pensioners that are not claiming benefits so why should they need a handout? Also these are the same pensioners that own their own homes after buying them for a fiver and not only dragged us out of the EU but have have been voting Tory for 14 years - all while telling younger people struggling to live to simply "stop buying expensive coffees" if they want to buy a house. Maybe they should take their own advice now and start getting their shopping from Aldi rather than Waitrose. The ones who need help will get help, but the rest have had decades to feather their nests while they've been ruining things for the rest of us. I'm with Labour on this one (and I'm not even a big Starmer fan!)

    • @Silver-st2zq
      @Silver-st2zq Před 21 dnem

      Same here 👍

    • @consideredwhisper
      @consideredwhisper Před 21 dnem +5

      You seem to have created out of your imagination that ALL pensioners are equivalent. They are not. Many of us have brought up the next generation alone and have never been in a position to pay off a mortgage or ‘feather our nests’ as you so meanly think. I have never voted Tory (always Labour), voted Remain and after years of chronic illness have only my state pension to live on. It takes me a few pence over the line to qualify for Pension Credit. It would do you well to understand that many of us are struggling with all kinds of problems that you may well be unaware of. We have adult children who are struggling, grandchildren who we are unable to help - all these things. So please stop and think more broadly and with some kindness before you tar us all with some imagined wealth or political view. Other views are available.

    • @firebyrd437
      @firebyrd437 Před 21 dnem +5

      ​@@consideredwhisperI'm totally disgusted by the many comments made about pensioners, the majority are not wealthy and have worked all their lives to get the smallest pension in Europe. A small occupational pension taking you just above the threshold for pension credit means that this winter when price rises are factored in that with the winter fuel allowance you would just break even on heating costs from last year. Train drivers on average will get a pay rise averaging £8,000, the basic state pension is £8,400 but pensioners are the greedy ones

    • @richardgallagher4880
      @richardgallagher4880 Před 21 dnem

      That'll be too muchimigration.
      Bet you're glad we saved 30trillion on brexit.

    • @mah5262
      @mah5262 Před 21 dnem

      @@firebyrd437 Aren't most pensioners property owners? Surely they can downsise?

  • @portmantologist
    @portmantologist Před 20 dny +1

    There's an incredibly simple solution to the problem of people receiving benefits that they don't need: taxation. Means testing is a tool of denying benefits to people who need them. Give the benefits to everybody, and if someone is above a certain threshold of net worth, or annual income, or whatever metric you want to use, tax it back out of them. It's far more important that people who need the benefit receive it than that people who don't need it don't.

    • @stuartregan1627
      @stuartregan1627 Před 19 dny

      Exactly it's means tested anyway with a thing called ...TAX

  • @shaun906
    @shaun906 Před 21 dnem +3

    stakeholder economy!

  • @danbetts7990
    @danbetts7990 Před 15 dny

    This is one of the reason I left labour about 3 years ago,

  • @McKluskie
    @McKluskie Před 21 dnem +4

    nobody should be surprised by this, dont get me wrong i'm 100% glad we got rid of the Nazis but I knew i'd be getting a Tory-lite party, there was no alternative really. I voted Labour to get the Tories out but will be voting green at the locals to send a message

  • @robertlocock5636
    @robertlocock5636 Před 21 dnem +2

    Slash VAT on utilities.

  • @deephouse733
    @deephouse733 Před 21 dnem +4

    Maybe the pensioners should go stay in hotels with the refugees eh James
    Would you be ok with that?

  • @MattBooth
    @MattBooth Před 20 dny

    No. There needs to be something done to help those pensioners on the borderline but there's a huge amount of pensioners who don't need this money.

  • @pokemonjt
    @pokemonjt Před 20 dny +4

    Stop wasting billions in ukraine and israel military support and look after us?

  • @mdkram
    @mdkram Před 19 dny

    We're too far away from the next GE for anyone in Labour to care what people think about them.

  • @apolloforabetterfuture4814
    @apolloforabetterfuture4814 Před 21 dnem +5

    Brutal brutal austerity back again. It's sad to see.

    • @martinmurphy9679
      @martinmurphy9679 Před 18 dny

      I suggest you don't understand the meaning of austerity.

  • @Nemo59646
    @Nemo59646 Před 20 dny +1

    I'm for universal benefits as it makes for a more cohesive society,even if it goes to the better off.

  • @johnstarkey8126
    @johnstarkey8126 Před 21 dnem +3

    10 million pensioner's votes gone and how many more in their next move against their next moves

  • @MegaZayd1
    @MegaZayd1 Před 21 dnem +2

    The rich need to be taxed and we need to use those taxes to end austerity and give universal benefits, no checks, everybody gets it. Benefit systems only pass the rich if u give then to them too