Durring arguably one of the most unnerving scenes of the film, when the mother tries getting into the attic once she is possessed by Paiman she tries to get inside by smacking her head repeatedly into the door. With this new context, I believe her movements are meant to resemble a bird attempting to peck it's way through something in order to get their prey
Remember Phoenix are fire birds and angels from egypt and Paimon could possibly be taking the spiritual form of a pheonix which symbolically shows the families "rebirth"
I think this also connects back to the tree house being where paimon feels at home. Seeing as birds live on trees but also how it could represent a literal wooden bird house.
The Hereditary video is definitely not "the best you will ever do"-- your potential is astounding, please keep it up! Hopefully it at least sends folks back to your older videos (like it did with me). Genuinely wonderful work!
I hesitate to speak on their behalf, but I think what they are alluding to is the difference between "being able to do something" and "having the will to execute the actions needed to do XYZ in the first place" An old example I used to use with my gamer friends was: "Yeah, I completed Super Ghouls & Ghosts, and I probably could again, but I just don't have the strength of will to go through that again" That's the vibe I get, after enjoying Novum's work. (Not to mention navigating the canyons of depression; that's something that personally holds me back, and I am most certainly not the only one)
@RedSpadeTre7 man, I really hope he finds it in him to keep making these high-quality videos because I have never enjoyed a 4 hour video like that on CZcams. It was also pretty inspirational tbh, coming from a creative.
Absolutely. There's alot of quality CZcamsrs(I hate to even use that word when talking about videos of this quality) and Novum is absolutely among them. The fact his channel is this small is criminal. Fortunately his video popped up on my algorithm and my gfs algorithm so let's hope that's a sign of things to come. There's nobody who even comes close to his breakdowns of films and media. It's like he's inside the heads of the creators. Sometimes I feel like he understands them better than they do. His hereditary video was above and beyond but his alien breakdown was top notch. So much so I immediately went and watched the green knight and the lighthouse so I could watch those videos next.
Thank you so much guys this was so awesome to read, not quite sure how I missed it first time round tbh! Really weird/awesome to see people talking so positively about stuff I've done so thank you. Just to clear up the confusion I am 1000% making more videos just like the Hereditary one, and I'll continue to push the boat out in any way I can, hopefully improving production quality as I go. The reason for me making that comment is more that I'm dealing with a medium in which skill and effort don't necessarily equate to success. Up until a few weeks ago Hereditary, Alien, PYW videos were all lower than 4k views and it was only because of a lucky bump in the algorithm that you guys saw any of this, really. I'm going to keep doing it, there's zero chance I stop, and I hope that having more subscribers now will allow for some quicker growth, but I can't mentally rely on it without inviting in intense disappointment!
I think the greatest thing in the world is if Ari Aster did a film like Hereditary for each of the kings of Hell, and how they would approach victimizing the living. Bael, Vine, Beleth, Balam, etc. They all have such colorful lore and histories but it's all couched in that medieval grimoire existence. Paimon stands as the one that got a modern send-up. Make this the first film in a series and I'd be over the moon lol. But not nonsense demons in exorcism movies, either. Thoughtful, adult horror movies that don't waste the characters on easy gags. But the Lesser Key of Solomon has so much cool shit in it that doesn't get enough love in modern horror. And once again, I love your channel and your analyses and keep 'em coming!
_"...doesn't get enough love in modern horror..."_ More like it doesn't get *_any_* love in modern horror LOL I think it's too "niche", for lack of a better term; Most horror writers, modern or otherwise, might be familiar with _elements_ from the goetia while not actually knowing what it is as a whole (i.e: a surface level familiarity with individual/more well-known demons, symbolism, sigils, etc.) That's a really cool concept, though. I think it would register even better in a series of graphic novels, with each daemon having it's own book/"chapter", perhaps each being illustrated and/or written by different horror writers/illustrators! Ooh! Imagine if Junji Ito did one! I'd like to see his take on Orobas.
My votes are for Stolas, Ipos, Naberius, Buer, or Forneus. Yet, rather than being outright exorcism style horror they are more in line with dramatic, psychological thrillers where the protagonist is forced to address their own shadow.
I agree that Toni Collette was phenomenal. The scene that clinched it for me was when she yelled at her son about how he killed her sister and let them find her body. That scene was so intense and powerful.
I'm convinced Ari Aster studied occultism under Franz Bardon's system and took inspiration from it. I thought about this when i first saw the scene where Peter mentions "the air flexing" during the evocation of Paimon/Charlie, and then i became more convinced through all the bird analogies. Franz Bardon kind of specialized in evocation, in fact i think he has the best evocation work out there, "practice of magical evocation". In Bardon's biography, one of his students mentions how when Bardon would evoke a spirit the room would be filled with the sound of flapping wings everywhere, in occultism this phenomenon is attributed to the ether in the air literally "flexing", expanding and contracting to accommodate the spirit's "body" stepping in from a different sphere, and thus causing a sound similar to birds flapping their wings.
OMG I just realized the way in which Paimon-chan eats chocolate suddenly makes all the sense in the world: They're mimicking how birds grip objects. And Petaimon smacking his head right into his desk makes even more sense: Birds peck, so of course that's the first thing he does. MIND BLOWN.
The part of the bird feet is very interesting. Because in actual shadin (demon or demigod) lore, it’s said when they walk among us, you could tell they were not human because of their feet. Asmodeus when in power over Solomon’s kingdom never walked barefoot, because it would reveal his true identity. Great video! I love your analogy and can’t wait for more!
just throwing an idea out there for you to toss around in your head but we talk about charlie's body (as a vessel) sort of like a cage for paimon, but what if it's more like an "egg" and upon cracking out of it (ie removal of the head), then Paimon has finally matured and is ready to inhabit peter as his true vessel
Look up St. Ivan Kupala Day. I have gone down the rabbit hole and I will tell you, purification takes a lot of commitment. Get ready for some visions and trippy stuff about the Ukraine. Don't say you were unwarned about fuzzy forrest friend, the honey eater. I hope you live near a decent sauna and that you are not a prude. Blessings!
Since watching your Hereditary video, I've seen your Green Knight and Lighthouse videos and I'm looking forward to more essays! You're very in depth and straight to the point, instant subscribe from me :)
Paimon smashing his head into the wooden desk repeatedly could also be a bird reference to a woodpecker 😭😭😭 (Also, I'm one of the viewers brought from the hereditary video, and since then I've been binge watching this channel!! I'm so glad I found it, not only do you have a relaxing voice, but you lay out your analyses very precisely and include almost everything we could question about the source material. Seriously, amazing work!!)
Paimon is depicted as a man with an effeminate face (a strong man with a woman's face according to other scholars), wearing a precious crown, and riding a dromedary. Before him often goes a host of demons and ghouls with the shape of men, playing trumpets, cymbals, and any other sort of musical instruments.
Yeah me too! It'll be a while still but work has officially begun. As soon as I have news about the novel I'll post something up about it! Thanks so much for the support!
Another moment worth mentioning is following Annie's possession and while she chases Peter, she slams her head upwards into the attic door, much like a bird pecking.
Please continue to dive into EVERY deep dive. Also, I am waiting for the Midsommar review. I really hope you are working on a video for that one as well since you watched it recently.
i’ve just discovered your channel (with the hereditary vid lol), but your vids are honestly so impressive and you deserve all the love, and i’m glad i found the channel
You’re crazy if you think that the hereditary video will be the most successful thing that you’ll ever be capable of producing. It is nearly impossible to make a 4+ hour video and still keep people captivated, regardless of the content, but through your dedication you were able to pull it off! I’m certain you have many passion projects in the future that will be equally if not more successful. Very happy for you and I can’t wait to see what this channel keeps bringing. Cheers bruv 🍻 you earned a lifelong supporter
Absolutely love that we're getting more Hereditary content from you! Incredibly impressed with the effort you put into every video, can't wait for your Midsommer analysis!
As a bird owner, I can tell you they are on a... different moral compass. Birds are also very particular to their likes and dislikes. A bird will often sharpen their beak in times of comfort and contentment. This involved a grinding of the two beak halves together, often making a styrofoam sound. A human trying to imitate this might wind up clucking.
Yeah I see something prehistoric in their eyes that makes me feel weird. it's not quite fear but I would not be comfortable having one in the house! That is fascinating though, thank you so much for sharing!
I have technically watched your Hereditary video about ten times now because I keep falling to sleep to it. And that’s not an insult. I love sleeping to long videos, and that was the main reason why I clicked on your video in the first place-and why I’m now a sub. The way you narrate also keeps me up if I want to, but puts me to sleep if I need to. I am slowly making my way through it, starting off where I last remember before sleep took me. I don’t know if watching the ads all the way through gives you more money, but I hope it goes because of how many ads I must’ve “watched” on that video 😂
All of this DEPTH is exactly why I love the horror genre! We (as horror fans) are so blessed with people like Ari Aster and Novum. Thank you so much for all the great work you do! Please don't ever stop or feel the need to hold yourself back in these video essays. You hereditary video is a masterpiece, as the movie itself. I don't think anyone else could do it more justice than you. Thank you!
I’m psyched for this one!!! Congrats on growing your channel. And don’t sell yourself short. You can create videos just as successful and maybe more. Thank you for covering Midsommar next. I am so excited. It is probably my favorite movie of all time.
“You may have already figured it out as we’re zooming in...” He’s holding an e- “He’s hiding bird claws under his robe.” He’s hiding bird claws, yup, that’s what I was gonna say!
Well so far that's only increased with each video and I'm hoping to do the same here. My plan is that early in the new year Midsommar will release, book will release (in some format) and I have a bonus complete guide video to release shortly after which I'm only mentioning here, in this comment. After that it will be The Witch! Thanks so much for your kind words, they're extremely motivating on difficult days like today.
@@Novum_YTyou’re seriously the most thorough video essayist/youtuber I think I’ve ever seen, I can’t fathom, much less, imagine, how much work goes into these videos. I’ll be salivating until your video on The Witch comes out.
I never understood why Charlie was holding the chocolate like that, NOW it makes sense! Thank you for explaining the movie. The hours involved in showing us the culture behind the occults .. looking forward to listening at Midsommar, maybe Talk to me.
Her specific hand poisitioning is also very similar to the pose of the hand on the staff, in the drawing of Paimon, and the position of Peter's hand during his classroom possession! If you're into the movie like that I do a whole four hour guide on it! Thanks so much for watching!
Congrats, you deserve it! Your Green Knight video (and all of the others, really) is so impressive, and I can tell you don’t just rehash other breakdowns
maybe the reference to flies and pestilence is referring to a bird known for eating or picking at dead bodies? like a vulture or corvid? I would probably guess a corvid because of their folklore
I absolutely loved the Hereditary video, it’s so hard to find that kind of in depth analysis on horror films. Midsommar is my favorite Aster film and I’m so excited to hear what you have to say about it.
i think and in fact urge you to do more long analysis videos, i watched the hereditary in two sittings and it was an incredible watch. Props to you for having the passion and perseverance to do such a long analysis. It was amazingly insightful and entertaining. PLEASE GO MAKE MORE.
This is my first video of his, and I also want a video on the Witch from him now lol! I love Ari Aster too, but Eggers' "The Witch" has stuck with me in an even deeper way than any of Aster's work.
@@Aelffwynnthe Witch is awesome and filled with cool stuff, sad that eggers seems to hate it and has never made a movie as great since for whatever reason
Good video, it makes sense because in operations of demonic evocation, you do everything in your power, so that the demon manifests itself in a more "human-like" appearance; if it were to make itself present, in its true form, it could be too much for the human psyche, and you would basically go insane or die from a heart attack. That's why grimoires contain such a kaleidoscope of images, because there is more than one way of summoning the entity, when it comes to appearances. Edit: I see some people in the comments getting a bit confused. This video is about the fictional demon in the film, not the "historically accurate" one, that was used as a base; Ari took some liberties to better express the story he wanted to tell.
Excited to see new videos from you! You deserve all the new subscribers for sure (and I'm one of them). Also, I don't know that it's really worth mentioning but whippoorwills are known for swallowing insects whole; they leave their mouths open as traps and then just swallow any bugs that fly in. I can't remember if you mentioned it in your previous video but I think it's interesting considering the way Charlie dies and all the "throat getting smaller" stuff. Paimon is represented by the whippoorwill, whippoorwills swallow things whole, and Charlie dies because of something she ate (she didn't *technically* choke but it's similar). Paimon cramming his way up/down his hosts' throats is reminiscent of that to me. Whippoorwills are also nocturnal and Charlie's death and the big finish both happen at night when whippoorwills do their foraging. I don't know, I just think it's a neat detail.
According to this movie, Paemon’s real form is bird like. Just like an Indian movie Padmaavat, which in reality had a talking parrot who announced how beautiful the queen is but in the movie, they used a perverted human in place of the parrot.
I watched your full Hereditary breakdown yesterday and just wanted to thank you. I watched the film because of how much I loved Midsommar and felt eager to experience more Ari Aster. You highlighted so well just HOW much effort went into making it, by putting in so much effort of your own. I appreciate the film more deeply than initial watching, so thank you thank you for your time and your voice. I can't wait to see your Midsommar video ❤
I LOVE your video essays about movies worth diving into! I binged your green knight and light house essays and was riveted! Your great at this and so insightful, you clearly do the work and the research, I applaud you!
Your Hereditary video essay is best in terms of how algorythm cherished it. Quality of a content maker grows exponentially with each video. It's mere luck if video gets a lot of recognition. However I found you with this video and very happy about it. ❤ Just keep making content. Subscribed and be looking towards your Midsommar video. Don't let algorythms fool you. All your vids are great.
Youve been my favorite youtuber since 2020 ive watched all your videos at least twice. Im so happy youre in good health and doing so well. You deserve all the sucess that comes your way and i hope everything stays on the come up.
I love love LOVE your movie analyses, every single one is so well researched, written, and delivered! I'm so glad I found your channel and I look forward to seeing your Midsommar analysis 😊
I never, ever, subscribe or comment but you are now the only channel I'm subscribed to. Your hereditary video is the best film analysis I've ever seen and I needed to make sure I'm alerted the SECOND the midsommar one drops. In a sea of "(fill in the blank movie) ending EXPLAINED" you are a beacon of hope
im so excited for ur midsommar vid!!!!! ur guide to hereditary was amazing, and all the details in midsommar r made for ur types of explanations. im sure youll find hundreds of details no one else has covered yet
your hereditary video is incredible. you should be endlessly proud tbh. i was in a trance and didnt even notice 4 hours had gone by. dont convince yourself you cant outdo it though. you have serious talent.
Thank you so much, that's so kind of you to say! I'm certainly going to try, and I do feel like my videos show clear improvement as I go, but I just don't take anything for certain while I'm at the mercy of the algorithm! Thanks again, that was really lovely to read.
your hereditary video is the most well-researched video essay I may have ever seen. please keep up the good work. sadly there aren't many movies worthy of the level of analysis that hereditary warranted but I think you'll make it work
I am so incredibly excited for the next video! I was thinking that I was hoping that would be the next one, since you don't have a video on Midsommar already. Reach out if you need any help! Us Norwegians and Swedes basically have the same language. So if you need help with something in Swedish for example. Let me know! Also, the Hereditary video is not the best you can do! Just another example of the cool stuff you can make. Practice never makes anyone worse at something :) Have a great day! And thank you for the update
I want to add that I use youtube since forever, am subscribed to a lot of people but you are the only one I actually use the "bell" to notify when you post a video. 😊 (sorry for my bad english)
Wow, this is why Ari’s movies are rewatched. The intentions and pieces he puts behind his storytelling is just so intriguing. Now I have to watch for the third time.
Late to the party, but i’m a huge nerd on both the topics of egregious media analysis and ornithology, so i’ve come back to the original analysis video a few times in the past few months and there’s something on the topic of Hereditary’s birds i haven’t seen anyone mention, that being the whippoorwill. you said the whippoorwill symbolizes death, and while that’s true, it more specifically symbolizes what happens to the soul after death. folklore originating from colonial New England (and imo possibly passed on to the settlers from Indigenous Americans in the same area, given very similar legends in their own folklore) depicts whippoorwills as soul snatchers! they were said to linger outside the windows of the dying and wait to catch and swallow souls as they left their bodies (if this sounds familiar, H.P. Lovecraft used this legend in The Dunwich Horror after hearing about it from a Bay Stater friend, which is what google tells me people from massachusetts call themselves). so given the whippoorwill’s placement in the treehouse at the climax of the movie, i think it’s safe to say the cult is using it to assist in luring/leading Paimon, and simultaneously furthering the assertion that the bird itself represents him with their shared identities as soul snatchers. also, and as a personal headcanon- because they’re famous for how utterly demonic looking they are i like to imagine Paimon’s true form as a potoo, the whippoorwill’s very handsome South American cousin. war devil style if you will. as for why they’d use another type of bird in the actual movie, my guess is simply that eastern whippoorwills (their full name) are elusive and, in fact, eastern, and they were filming in Utah. so it might not have been possible for production to get their hands on one.
So, I've got this video randomly recommended on home page. Started watching it and you mentioned your previous Hereditary video. My interest is picked, I go to your channel and see....A 4,5 HOUR-LONG HEREDITARY VIDEO?! You bet your ass I'm watching the whole of it! Keep up the great work, you deserve many more subs!
Hereditary is my favorite horror ever. It used to be The Exorcist but I find Hereditary much more unsettling, and the story is a great story which deals with a lot of human emotions and feelings. A masterpiece of the horror genre imo
Whipporwills are also very common birds being psychopomps (is this the right word? In Italian, my language, is "psicopompo", birds that carry away the soul of a dead) in the HP Lovecraft stories.
I've watched your previous videos and you're developing your craft. Your Hereditary video is more accessible and stick closely to the movie while the previous ones were more arid in my opinion. Either way, it's great that hard work is being rewarded. Very good catch on the bird.
just watched the hereditary video after watching this one: the headbanging annie does on the attic door reminds me of birds pecking when eating for example!
That’s an absolutely great shout! Couldn’t agree more. Although for me the number one takeaway from it is just how little of a sht Paimon gives about the vessels he inhabits and what that means following the end of the story!
This video is a godsend for me, because Hereditary as the best movie that I'll never watch again. I have a bad habit of rewatching my favorite movies instead of sitting down for something new, but I remember watching this one in the break room and getting to the telephone pole scene. I paused it right after, held my head in my hands numbly for a minute or two, and then started softly crying to myself. I'll never put myself through it again, but I love everything I learn about the movie from videos like this one
Your work is PHENOMENAL and I am absolutely a huge fan and looking forward to all your future videos! I'd really love to see your complete breakdown of the Joker, as well as maybe Midsommar and the Witch? Either way, I will definitely be watching anything you put out from here on out!
I'm looking forward to Novum's Beau is Afraid deep dive coming out in...[checks watch]...2030. But seriously, I'm looking forward to it whenever it comes out! Ari's films deserve >4 hour deep dives that only you have provided. Thank you!
Congrats on doubling your subs! It's more than deserved. I also don't think it'll be the most succesful thing you're capable of creating. The quality of your videos will guarantee more of those succesful videos. For sure the Midsommar video will do just as well, if not better
I love the video title…but great analysis…I’m honestly a sucker for these types of videos that explores additional lore/context to stories/movies/shows…
This is awesome, great analysis. I can tell you did an immense amount of research on one of my favorite films in the last 20 years. Thanks! I liked and subscribed, looking forward to more!
Durring arguably one of the most unnerving scenes of the film, when the mother tries getting into the attic once she is possessed by Paiman she tries to get inside by smacking her head repeatedly into the door. With this new context, I believe her movements are meant to resemble a bird attempting to peck it's way through something in order to get their prey
Remember Phoenix are fire birds and angels from egypt and Paimon could possibly be taking the spiritual form of a pheonix which symbolically shows the families "rebirth"
Or a bird slamming against a surface, the way we often see bird smacking into windows.
Very bird like to peck, for sure
woodpecker behavior
Omg you just blew my mind!!
Holy shit I was just thinking that too😮!!!!
Ari aster films are like dark souls games in that they have so much hidden lore to find. It’s honestly so impressive.
My favourite series of games right there!
Missed the chance to reference *ahem* _Demon’s_ souls
I’ll go ahead and see myself out the door. Oh look, a si-
He’s an absolute genius
Plus the treehouse is like a human sized birdhouse
he said that in the video
Also the altar in Joan's house seems like a nest with all the twigs in the table. The treehouse can also be seen as a nest in a tree. 🐣
I think this also connects back to the tree house being where paimon feels at home. Seeing as birds live on trees but also how it could represent a literal wooden bird house.
The Hereditary video is definitely not "the best you will ever do"-- your potential is astounding, please keep it up! Hopefully it at least sends folks back to your older videos (like it did with me). Genuinely wonderful work!
I hesitate to speak on their behalf, but I think what they are alluding to is the difference between "being able to do something" and "having the will to execute the actions needed to do XYZ in the first place"
An old example I used to use with my gamer friends was: "Yeah, I completed Super Ghouls & Ghosts, and I probably could again, but I just don't have the strength of will to go through that again"
That's the vibe I get, after enjoying Novum's work.
(Not to mention navigating the canyons of depression; that's something that personally holds me back, and I am most certainly not the only one)
@RedSpadeTre7 man, I really hope he finds it in him to keep making these high-quality videos because I have never enjoyed a 4 hour video like that on CZcams. It was also pretty inspirational tbh, coming from a creative.
Absolutely. There's alot of quality CZcamsrs(I hate to even use that word when talking about videos of this quality) and Novum is absolutely among them. The fact his channel is this small is criminal. Fortunately his video popped up on my algorithm and my gfs algorithm so let's hope that's a sign of things to come. There's nobody who even comes close to his breakdowns of films and media. It's like he's inside the heads of the creators. Sometimes I feel like he understands them better than they do. His hereditary video was above and beyond but his alien breakdown was top notch. So much so I immediately went and watched the green knight and the lighthouse so I could watch those videos next.
Thank you so much guys this was so awesome to read, not quite sure how I missed it first time round tbh! Really weird/awesome to see people talking so positively about stuff I've done so thank you. Just to clear up the confusion I am 1000% making more videos just like the Hereditary one, and I'll continue to push the boat out in any way I can, hopefully improving production quality as I go. The reason for me making that comment is more that I'm dealing with a medium in which skill and effort don't necessarily equate to success. Up until a few weeks ago Hereditary, Alien, PYW videos were all lower than 4k views and it was only because of a lucky bump in the algorithm that you guys saw any of this, really. I'm going to keep doing it, there's zero chance I stop, and I hope that having more subscribers now will allow for some quicker growth, but I can't mentally rely on it without inviting in intense disappointment!
@@Novum_YT "Lucky Bump"
Maybe you accidentally sneezed in the direction of the north-west, and Paimon took notice!
I think the greatest thing in the world is if Ari Aster did a film like Hereditary for each of the kings of Hell, and how they would approach victimizing the living. Bael, Vine, Beleth, Balam, etc. They all have such colorful lore and histories but it's all couched in that medieval grimoire existence. Paimon stands as the one that got a modern send-up. Make this the first film in a series and I'd be over the moon lol. But not nonsense demons in exorcism movies, either. Thoughtful, adult horror movies that don't waste the characters on easy gags. But the Lesser Key of Solomon has so much cool shit in it that doesn't get enough love in modern horror.
And once again, I love your channel and your analyses and keep 'em coming!
Jeez. I would watch this. It sounds terrible.
This is a series I would actually watch
_"...doesn't get enough love in modern horror..."_
More like it doesn't get *_any_* love in modern horror LOL
I think it's too "niche", for lack of a better term;
Most horror writers, modern or otherwise, might be familiar with _elements_ from the goetia while not actually knowing what it is as a whole (i.e: a surface level familiarity with individual/more well-known demons, symbolism, sigils, etc.)
That's a really cool concept, though.
I think it would register even better in a series of graphic novels, with each daemon having it's own book/"chapter", perhaps each being illustrated and/or written by different horror writers/illustrators!
Ooh! Imagine if Junji Ito did one!
I'd like to see his take on Orobas.
I would love to see Gusion (who's true form is a baboon) or Behemoth (an elephant) in a movie
My votes are for Stolas, Ipos, Naberius, Buer, or Forneus. Yet, rather than being outright exorcism style horror they are more in line with dramatic, psychological thrillers where the protagonist is forced to address their own shadow.
The actress who plays the mom in this absolutely astounding film is quite an epic actress whooah
Toni Collette! She's absolutely phenomenal!
Not even nominated.
@@TheDevinMT For any award ceremony.
I agree that Toni Collette was phenomenal. The scene that clinched it for me was when she yelled at her son about how he killed her sister and let them find her body. That scene was so intense and powerful.
@@jharris3267 I bet they get a quite an internal experience from being such a great actress. They haven’t feel the moments so intensely.
I'm convinced Ari Aster studied occultism under Franz Bardon's system and took inspiration from it. I thought about this when i first saw the scene where Peter mentions "the air flexing" during the evocation of Paimon/Charlie, and then i became more convinced through all the bird analogies. Franz Bardon kind of specialized in evocation, in fact i think he has the best evocation work out there, "practice of magical evocation". In Bardon's biography, one of his students mentions how when Bardon would evoke a spirit the room would be filled with the sound of flapping wings everywhere, in occultism this phenomenon is attributed to the ether in the air literally "flexing", expanding and contracting to accommodate the spirit's "body" stepping in from a different sphere, and thus causing a sound similar to birds flapping their wings.
OMG I just realized the way in which Paimon-chan eats chocolate suddenly makes all the sense in the world: They're mimicking how birds grip objects. And Petaimon smacking his head right into his desk makes even more sense: Birds peck, so of course that's the first thing he does. MIND BLOWN.
and Annie trying to enter the attic!
paimon-chan 💀
Stop it! My eyes just opened so wide right now. This never occurred to me. Genius!
@@mattsoto8688SO true!!! Slamming her “beak” so as to gain entry.. all while hanging upside down… how did I never notice this!!!!
The part of the bird feet is very interesting. Because in actual shadin (demon or demigod) lore, it’s said when they walk among us, you could tell they were not human because of their feet. Asmodeus when in power over Solomon’s kingdom never walked barefoot, because it would reveal his true identity.
Great video! I love your analogy and can’t wait for more!
Where did you hear that?
i also really wanna know @@Linked02
@@Nao-ow3rr It's in the Talmud, but you can also find it on the "shedim" Wikipedia page!
just throwing an idea out there for you to toss around in your head but we talk about charlie's body (as a vessel) sort of like a cage for paimon, but what if it's more like an "egg" and upon cracking out of it (ie removal of the head), then Paimon has finally matured and is ready to inhabit peter as his true vessel
Fascinating theory! 😃
Good point!
You deserve the influx of subscribers! I'm so glad I found your channel amd cant wait until your Midsommar analysis comes out 😊
A thousand percent xxx
What they said! Looking forward to more of your content, Novum 🎉
Midsommar is a dook pile of a movie.
Midsommar is garbage
Midsommar next?! Dude I’m so excited :’) You have no idea how much your breakdowns mean to me. Thank you for all your hard work
Look up St. Ivan Kupala Day. I have gone down the rabbit hole and I will tell you, purification takes a lot of commitment. Get ready for some visions and trippy stuff about the Ukraine. Don't say you were unwarned about fuzzy forrest friend, the honey eater. I hope you live near a decent sauna and that you are not a prude. Blessings!
Since watching your Hereditary video, I've seen your Green Knight and Lighthouse videos and I'm looking forward to more essays! You're very in depth and straight to the point, instant subscribe from me :)
Check out his Alien breakdown as well. I've seen that movie 100x and I still was blown away and left with a deeper understanding
@@thorCast Definitely on my watch list!
Paimon smashing his head into the wooden desk repeatedly could also be a bird reference to a woodpecker 😭😭😭
(Also, I'm one of the viewers brought from the hereditary video, and since then I've been binge watching this channel!! I'm so glad I found it, not only do you have a relaxing voice, but you lay out your analyses very precisely and include almost everything we could question about the source material. Seriously, amazing work!!)
Like Charlie with the pole!
Paimon is depicted as a man with an effeminate face (a strong man with a woman's face according to other scholars), wearing a precious crown, and riding a dromedary. Before him often goes a host of demons and ghouls with the shape of men, playing trumpets, cymbals, and any other sort of musical instruments.
Also when the mother starts banging her head on the door of the attic
Super excited you're going to do a complete guide for midsommar. And very excited for your novel.
Yeah me too! It'll be a while still but work has officially begun. As soon as I have news about the novel I'll post something up about it! Thanks so much for the support!
Another moment worth mentioning is following Annie's possession and while she chases Peter, she slams her head upwards into the attic door, much like a bird pecking.
Please continue to dive into EVERY deep dive. Also, I am waiting for the Midsommar review. I really hope you are working on a video for that one as well since you watched it recently.
I've watched the entire breakdown twice now. I'll be watching again. This is a great addendum! Congratulations!!
i’ve just discovered your channel (with the hereditary vid lol), but your vids are honestly so impressive and you deserve all the love, and i’m glad i found the channel
You’re crazy if you think that the hereditary video will be the most successful thing that you’ll ever be capable of producing. It is nearly impossible to make a 4+ hour video and still keep people captivated, regardless of the content, but through your dedication you were able to pull it off! I’m certain you have many passion projects in the future that will be equally if not more successful. Very happy for you and I can’t wait to see what this channel keeps bringing.
Cheers bruv 🍻 you earned a lifelong supporter
Absolutely love that we're getting more Hereditary content from you! Incredibly impressed with the effort you put into every video, can't wait for your Midsommer analysis!
I love your style of analysis, your voice alongside the video and the visual element of the essays :))
I am obsessed with your videos. That Hereditary video was extraordinary.
As a bird owner, I can tell you they are on a... different moral compass. Birds are also very particular to their likes and dislikes.
A bird will often sharpen their beak in times of comfort and contentment. This involved a grinding of the two beak halves together, often making a styrofoam sound. A human trying to imitate this might wind up clucking.
Yeah I see something prehistoric in their eyes that makes me feel weird. it's not quite fear but I would not be comfortable having one in the house! That is fascinating though, thank you so much for sharing!
Birds are dinosaurs!
Your Hereditery video was 10/10 and you deserve all good things coming.
Facts
Not only is the content good (I finished the whole video), but the editing is well done, too!
I have technically watched your Hereditary video about ten times now because I keep falling to sleep to it.
And that’s not an insult. I love sleeping to long videos, and that was the main reason why I clicked on your video in the first place-and why I’m now a sub. The way you narrate also keeps me up if I want to, but puts me to sleep if I need to.
I am slowly making my way through it, starting off where I last remember before sleep took me. I don’t know if watching the ads all the way through gives you more money, but I hope it goes because of how many ads I must’ve “watched” on that video 😂
All of this DEPTH is exactly why I love the horror genre! We (as horror fans) are so blessed with people like Ari Aster and Novum. Thank you so much for all the great work you do! Please don't ever stop or feel the need to hold yourself back in these video essays. You hereditary video is a masterpiece, as the movie itself. I don't think anyone else could do it more justice than you. Thank you!
I’m psyched for this one!!! Congrats on growing your channel. And don’t sell yourself short. You can create videos just as successful and maybe more.
Thank you for covering Midsommar next. I am so excited. It is probably my favorite movie of all time.
“You may have already figured it out as we’re zooming in...”
He’s holding an e-
“He’s hiding bird claws under his robe.”
He’s hiding bird claws, yup, that’s what I was gonna say!
Not so patiently waiting for Midsommar! Just watched your Hereditary vid and was completely amazed at how much work was put into it. Bravo! 😊
Well so far that's only increased with each video and I'm hoping to do the same here. My plan is that early in the new year Midsommar will release, book will release (in some format) and I have a bonus complete guide video to release shortly after which I'm only mentioning here, in this comment. After that it will be The Witch! Thanks so much for your kind words, they're extremely motivating on difficult days like today.
@@Novum_YTyou’re seriously the most thorough video essayist/youtuber I think I’ve ever seen, I can’t fathom, much less, imagine, how much work goes into these videos. I’ll be salivating until your video on The Witch comes out.
I never understood why Charlie was holding the chocolate like that, NOW it makes sense! Thank you for explaining the movie. The hours involved in showing us the culture behind the occults .. looking forward to listening at Midsommar, maybe Talk to me.
Her specific hand poisitioning is also very similar to the pose of the hand on the staff, in the drawing of Paimon, and the position of Peter's hand during his classroom possession! If you're into the movie like that I do a whole four hour guide on it! Thanks so much for watching!
Congrats, you deserve it! Your Green Knight video (and all of the others, really) is so impressive, and I can tell you don’t just rehash other breakdowns
maybe the reference to flies and pestilence is referring to a bird known for eating or picking at dead bodies? like a vulture or corvid? I would probably guess a corvid because of their folklore
I spent most of last Thursday watching your original Hereditary video and HOLY SHIT it was incredible. Absolutely worth watching!
I absolutely loved the Hereditary video, it’s so hard to find that kind of in depth analysis on horror films. Midsommar is my favorite Aster film and I’m so excited to hear what you have to say about it.
Thank you for the follow up and I'm so happy to see your subscriber base growing. It's well-deserved. Can't wait for your Midsommar analysis.
i think and in fact urge you to do more long analysis videos, i watched the hereditary in two sittings and it was an incredible watch. Props to you for having the passion and perseverance to do such a long analysis. It was amazingly insightful and entertaining. PLEASE GO MAKE MORE.
Absolutely love this! Any chance you’ll do a deep dive on the Witch?
I want to know this too!
This is my first video of his, and I also want a video on the Witch from him now lol! I love Ari Aster too, but Eggers' "The Witch" has stuck with me in an even deeper way than any of Aster's work.
@@Aelffwynnthe Witch is awesome and filled with cool stuff, sad that eggers seems to hate it and has never made a movie as great since for whatever reason
@@tonywords6713the lighthouse?
Good video, it makes sense because in operations of demonic evocation, you do everything in your power, so that the demon manifests itself in a more "human-like" appearance; if it were to make itself present, in its true form, it could be too much for the human psyche, and you would basically go insane or die from a heart attack. That's why grimoires contain such a kaleidoscope of images, because there is more than one way of summoning the entity, when it comes to appearances.
Edit: I see some people in the comments getting a bit confused. This video is about the fictional demon in the film, not the "historically accurate" one, that was used as a base; Ari took some liberties to better express the story he wanted to tell.
Excited to see new videos from you! You deserve all the new subscribers for sure (and I'm one of them).
Also, I don't know that it's really worth mentioning but whippoorwills are known for swallowing insects whole; they leave their mouths open as traps and then just swallow any bugs that fly in. I can't remember if you mentioned it in your previous video but I think it's interesting considering the way Charlie dies and all the "throat getting smaller" stuff. Paimon is represented by the whippoorwill, whippoorwills swallow things whole, and Charlie dies because of something she ate (she didn't *technically* choke but it's similar). Paimon cramming his way up/down his hosts' throats is reminiscent of that to me. Whippoorwills are also nocturnal and Charlie's death and the big finish both happen at night when whippoorwills do their foraging. I don't know, I just think it's a neat detail.
I recently watched your Lighthouse analysis. Top tier!
I'm looking forward to your Beau is Afraid analysis as well~
the sleeve of his robe also looks like a wing. congrats!
Paimon is not a bird. Hes a floating fairy that is helping a Traveler find his sister.
This has been a very confusing thing for me while watching this video, so I've decided that they are simply one and the same.
According to this movie, Paemon’s real form is bird like. Just like an Indian movie Padmaavat, which in reality had a talking parrot who announced how beautiful the queen is but in the movie, they used a perverted human in place of the parrot.
@@gbasar1032 the op is making a reference to genshin impact
Sticky honey roast!!
I watched your full Hereditary breakdown yesterday and just wanted to thank you. I watched the film because of how much I loved Midsommar and felt eager to experience more Ari Aster. You highlighted so well just HOW much effort went into making it, by putting in so much effort of your own. I appreciate the film more deeply than initial watching, so thank you thank you for your time and your voice. I can't wait to see your Midsommar video ❤
Man you take as long as you need for more videos, trust, I'll tune in the second you post
Rewatching your vids in preps for Midsommar 😂 great work and such thoughtful words when discussing topics!!! You have a gift
Don’t tell anyone but I think it’s coming out Monday..
@@Novum_YTis it coming out today ?
your video on Hereditary is honestly one of the best videos ive watched all year!!!! so happy you're getting the recognition you deserve
An addendum to the 5 hour Hereditary guide? Count me in.
Ps will the Beau is Afraid guide be 10 hours long?
I LOVE your video essays about movies worth diving into! I binged your green knight and light house essays and was riveted! Your great at this and so insightful, you clearly do the work and the research, I applaud you!
10:23 the moment u started showing the drawing again i was like “OH SHIT THE CLAWED FEET THE CLAWED FEET!!” lol excellent stuff
Dude I love your content. It just scratches some intellectual itch. Thank you for saving my sanity during slow days at work ❤
Very happy for your success, and looking forward to your Midsommar breakdown!
Your Hereditary video essay is best in terms of how algorythm cherished it.
Quality of a content maker grows exponentially with each video.
It's mere luck if video gets a lot of recognition.
However I found you with this video and very happy about it. ❤
Just keep making content. Subscribed and be looking towards your Midsommar video. Don't let algorythms fool you. All your vids are great.
i've been binging your videos for days and honestly, the amount of work you put is truly astounding!
Well deserved jump in views and subs! Your channel has always had super high quality videos!
Youve been my favorite youtuber since 2020 ive watched all your videos at least twice. Im so happy youre in good health and doing so well. You deserve all the sucess that comes your way and i hope everything stays on the come up.
I love love LOVE your movie analyses, every single one is so well researched, written, and delivered! I'm so glad I found your channel and I look forward to seeing your Midsommar analysis 😊
I never, ever, subscribe or comment but you are now the only channel I'm subscribed to. Your hereditary video is the best film analysis I've ever seen and I needed to make sure I'm alerted the SECOND the midsommar one drops. In a sea of "(fill in the blank movie) ending EXPLAINED" you are a beacon of hope
im so excited for ur midsommar vid!!!!! ur guide to hereditary was amazing, and all the details in midsommar r made for ur types of explanations. im sure youll find hundreds of details no one else has covered yet
your hereditary video is incredible. you should be endlessly proud tbh. i was in a trance and didnt even notice 4 hours had gone by. dont convince yourself you cant outdo it though. you have serious talent.
Thank you so much, that's so kind of you to say! I'm certainly going to try, and I do feel like my videos show clear improvement as I go, but I just don't take anything for certain while I'm at the mercy of the algorithm! Thanks again, that was really lovely to read.
your hereditary video is the most well-researched video essay I may have ever seen. please keep up the good work. sadly there aren't many movies worthy of the level of analysis that hereditary warranted but I think you'll make it work
You're watching Midsommar for the second time this week, is there a 4 hour video essay on that one coming as well? Man, I'd love that.
Yep
@@Novum_YT You're batshit crazy, can't wait.
I am stoked for your analysis of Midsommar! That has got to be my favorite horror film since It Follows.
Incredible work as always. REALLY excited for your future videos!
I am so incredibly excited for the next video! I was thinking that I was hoping that would be the next one, since you don't have a video on Midsommar already. Reach out if you need any help! Us Norwegians and Swedes basically have the same language. So if you need help with something in Swedish for example. Let me know!
Also, the Hereditary video is not the best you can do! Just another example of the cool stuff you can make. Practice never makes anyone worse at something :)
Have a great day! And thank you for the update
I want to add that I use youtube since forever, am subscribed to a lot of people but you are the only one I actually use the "bell" to notify when you post a video. 😊 (sorry for my bad english)
In depth, intelligent commentary on my favorite horror movies, AND he reps Aes? Instant subscribe my dude!
dude you're awesome, i loved that 4 hour long vid 🫶
Wow, this is why Ari’s movies are rewatched. The intentions and pieces he puts behind his storytelling is just so intriguing. Now I have to watch for the third time.
Late to the party, but i’m a huge nerd on both the topics of egregious media analysis and ornithology, so i’ve come back to the original analysis video a few times in the past few months and there’s something on the topic of Hereditary’s birds i haven’t seen anyone mention, that being the whippoorwill. you said the whippoorwill symbolizes death, and while that’s true, it more specifically symbolizes what happens to the soul after death. folklore originating from colonial New England (and imo possibly passed on to the settlers from Indigenous Americans in the same area, given very similar legends in their own folklore) depicts whippoorwills as soul snatchers! they were said to linger outside the windows of the dying and wait to catch and swallow souls as they left their bodies (if this sounds familiar, H.P. Lovecraft used this legend in The Dunwich Horror after hearing about it from a Bay Stater friend, which is what google tells me people from massachusetts call themselves). so given the whippoorwill’s placement in the treehouse at the climax of the movie, i think it’s safe to say the cult is using it to assist in luring/leading Paimon, and simultaneously furthering the assertion that the bird itself represents him with their shared identities as soul snatchers. also, and as a personal headcanon- because they’re famous for how utterly demonic looking they are i like to imagine Paimon’s true form as a potoo, the whippoorwill’s very handsome South American cousin. war devil style if you will.
as for why they’d use another type of bird in the actual movie, my guess is simply that eastern whippoorwills (their full name) are elusive and, in fact, eastern, and they were filming in Utah. so it might not have been possible for production to get their hands on one.
Fantastic follow up to an amazing video. I can't wait to hear your analysis of Midsommar! :)
Your 4h+ on hereditary was amazing I'm gonna go rewatch it a second time after this one
So, I've got this video randomly recommended on home page. Started watching it and you mentioned your previous Hereditary video. My interest is picked, I go to your channel and see....A 4,5 HOUR-LONG HEREDITARY VIDEO?! You bet your ass I'm watching the whole of it! Keep up the great work, you deserve many more subs!
Hereditary is my favorite horror ever. It used to be The Exorcist but I find Hereditary much more unsettling, and the story is a great story which deals with a lot of human emotions and feelings. A masterpiece of the horror genre imo
Whipporwills are also very common birds being psychopomps (is this the right word? In Italian, my language, is "psicopompo", birds that carry away the soul of a dead) in the HP Lovecraft stories.
I've watched your previous videos and you're developing your craft. Your Hereditary video is more accessible and stick closely to the movie while the previous ones were more arid in my opinion. Either way, it's great that hard work is being rewarded.
Very good catch on the bird.
just watched the hereditary video after watching this one: the headbanging annie does on the attic door reminds me of birds pecking when eating for example!
That’s an absolutely great shout! Couldn’t agree more. Although for me the number one takeaway from it is just how little of a sht Paimon gives about the vessels he inhabits and what that means following the end of the story!
"4 and a half hour break down" is usually what happens to me when a 20 year old says I'm old.
The Hereditary vid was great and I’m sure there is more to come that’s even better - Congrats xxx
As others have said this is not your peak. You clearly are talented and will produce many other great videos. Thanks for the entertainment, friendo!
This video is a godsend for me, because Hereditary as the best movie that I'll never watch again. I have a bad habit of rewatching my favorite movies instead of sitting down for something new, but I remember watching this one in the break room and getting to the telephone pole scene. I paused it right after, held my head in my hands numbly for a minute or two, and then started softly crying to myself. I'll never put myself through it again, but I love everything I learn about the movie from videos like this one
Your work is PHENOMENAL and I am absolutely a huge fan and looking forward to all your future videos! I'd really love to see your complete breakdown of the Joker, as well as maybe Midsommar and the Witch? Either way, I will definitely be watching anything you put out from here on out!
I'm looking forward to Novum's Beau is Afraid deep dive coming out in...[checks watch]...2030. But seriously, I'm looking forward to it whenever it comes out! Ari's films deserve >4 hour deep dives that only you have provided. Thank you!
Congrats on doubling your subs! It's more than deserved. I also don't think it'll be the most succesful thing you're capable of creating. The quality of your videos will guarantee more of those succesful videos. For sure the Midsommar video will do just as well, if not better
There is also a very subtle bird silhouette right on the face of the Paimon drawing. Fantastic vid
those 4 hours went by pretty fast mate.
I've watched your Hereditary video twice now - thank you for the amazing content
You def need to do more videos like hereditary that video was a work of art
Fantastic job, I am now invested in your content. Keep up the good work!
I love the video title…but great analysis…I’m honestly a sucker for these types of videos that explores additional lore/context to stories/movies/shows…
Love your vids!! I would love to see your take on Beau Is Afraid sometime!
Paimon is an emergency food
This is awesome, great analysis. I can tell you did an immense amount of research on one of my favorite films in the last 20 years. Thanks! I liked and subscribed, looking forward to more!
Love your content breh. Keep it poppin'.
I have told so many people on Reddit about you! Glad you are getting the attention you deserve!
So Hereditary is about a crazy bird-lady who curses her entire family.
so happy to have found your channel via the hereditary video !! also loving that you have ideas about doing a video on Beyond The Black Rainbow !!!!!!
GREAT BREAKDOWN!!!!