Love how you said you did a quick prayer cause in my eyes and heart it’s the only way you make it without breaking anything or getting stuck .. I did this trail with no other rig just me my son and wife and my Labrador.. I did this trail same day as you all just behind you guys I started later in the day .. I feel I needed to go tackle it b4 I go in a group and slow everyone down .. I did the trail the other way .. hope to get out with you all soon .. #socaljeepjunkies .. God bless
This is one of those trails where you don't need to worry about slowing people down. So much scenery to take in. As for hitting the trails together, sounds like a plan.
Amazing video Joshua! You have one of the best narrator voices I have ever heard and you talking the extra time to take in the beauty of these trails is great advise. Until next time, happy trails!
Just did this trail this past Saturday. That middle rock garden is no joke! I was on 35's (JLU) and I felt like I was running this trail in a lowrider. Great video!
@JeepAdventures We haven't made it there yet but Big Bear is where my wife's family grew up so we are planning a trip to grab some badges and see family
Great video, I love that you guys ran it from East to west which I strongly believe is the harder route. Since you have gravity on your side when crawling through the middle rock garden when traveling West to East…. I ran this a few weeks ago and struggled just like you guys did in the middle section. Probably took my buddy and I about 1-1.5 hours to get through it. Luckily no one else was on the trail.
Yea that main rock garden you can pick a great line but it will rarely let you wheel it as you must be prepared to change course on the fly. I will play Devil's advocate though Josh and cannot agree with you that the Left line can be as difficult as the Right line. When that Right line is not stacked with rocks the gaps are wide and the boulders swallow up even 40 inch tires. It makes you work and wheel, I pretty much just cruise through the Left side when we are in " path of least resistance" mode. Really good vid. Keep up the nice work. Cheers! and Happy Wheeling.
Normally i would agree with you 100% as you are right on target. I imagine you probably wheeled the trail in the last month as it seems like you are on the trails more than me, but boy that left line was a mess when we ran it. If the right line is an 8, the left was probably a 7 when we were on it where it is normally a low 6. I am not complaining by any means, but i am going to guess people will clear the rock blocking the easier line and things will return to normal.
So why I say this is the hardest is because of the required or easiest line through the trail. If you do the harder options, motino and dishpan have harder stuff on them. But if you do the easiest line on the trail, that center rock garden when wet which is 80-90% of the year is hard. As for side winder, what part are you talking about?
@@JeepAdventures I'll take that center rock section any day. It's just slippery. Sidewinder is 1/4-1/2 mile of constant crawling. It's narrower, has larger step ups, bigger rocks and is more technical to maneuver in. I personally think the section that has the huge split rock on the right that everyone take photos with, narrow squeeze section in the middle, and the left with a split crawl over is the hardest section on the mountain period. We ran it a few weeks ago and everyone with 40's is digging the trail in adding to the experience. Holcomb stays relatively the same, is maintained at times and doesn't really get dug in.
Which Sidewinder trail are you talking about? The one in Big Bear is intermediate on its best day. Motino is sort of hard but you have to take the harder lines for it to be "Hard". Send over google gps coordinates of Sidewinder.
@@JeepAdventures Sidewinder is what the bronco people call Motino wash. I hear what you're saying about lines but that's really all trails. IMO the average line in Motino is harder. Especially right now with most lines being dugout.
I get it, Mottino can get hard. I haven't seen in several months so not sure the current status. I also want to say when Holcomb is wet, it is harder, but when dry, is is much easier. Since the water is on the trail on average 10 months a year I take it as normal. But those late summer months, this trail is drastically easier without the slipping and sliding. Minus the mess that is in the center rock garden right now. Guess I need to get out to Mottino if we get a cool day.
@@JeepAdventures shit, trail looks bad ass, definitely a level up from 1n09, and the small trails i hit here in mt baldy. but i dont think my 2" lift will be able to clear the last two gardens. i have a trd sport 4x4. think ima upgrade the bumper and install a winch before i go here. thank you for the info and great video man... jeep, toyota, ford, chevy.. doesnt matter as long as you hit the trails. be safe out there!
@@danielruiz3853 Thats it, all about the adventure, not what you drive. Could you make it, maybe... I would recommend sliders and armor though. But if you want to work up to this trail, start with Heart Break Ridge, then Gold Mtn, then John Bull. leaving this trail for last.
@@JeepAdventures i do have have rock sliders, just no armor.. been thinking about upgrading my bumper this weekend. thank you so much for the tips on the other trails, i will for sure pay it forward. maybe when i level up my rig ill see you on the trail hahah stay safe 🤙
Motino flips and flops if it is hard. At times I would agree, but also depends on when you do Holcomb. If Holcomb is wet, which is like 8 to 9 months of the year, that center rock garden can get pretty hard. But if dry, its is way easier. Also depends on which way you run the trail. Dropping down the rocks is way easier then trying to climb up them.
@@JeepAdventures Holcomb has one rock on the second garden …. Motino is all rock … every inch is obstacle… it’s a flowing garden of giant jagged rocks…. It makes Holcomb feel easy ….. czcams.com/video/eRmoS9upavo/video.htmlsi=u1Uvayja8YlCE5xJ
Never been on this trail but definitely on my list!
You won't be disappointed. Make a weekend of it and camp at Big Pine Flats. If you get done fast, there is plenty of other trails in the area.
@@JeepAdventures definitely will. Yeah I’ve been to big bear for other trails but my Jeep wasn’t ready for this trail.. now it is lol
Nice, let me know how the trip goes and what you think of the trail.
Love how you said you did a quick prayer cause in my eyes and heart it’s the only way you make it without breaking anything or getting stuck .. I did this trail with no other rig just me my son and wife and my Labrador.. I did this trail same day as you all just behind you guys I started later in the day .. I feel I needed to go tackle it b4 I go in a group and slow everyone down .. I did the trail the other way .. hope to get out with you all soon .. #socaljeepjunkies .. God bless
This is one of those trails where you don't need to worry about slowing people down. So much scenery to take in. As for hitting the trails together, sounds like a plan.
Amazing video Joshua! You have one of the best narrator voices I have ever heard and you talking the extra time to take in the beauty of these trails is great advise. Until next time, happy trails!
Thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated. Have fun and be safe out on the trails.
Just did this trail this past Saturday. That middle rock garden is no joke! I was on 35's (JLU) and I felt like I was running this trail in a lowrider. Great video!
No joke. Thank you for watching.
Haha we were there too on Saturday. Yes, the middle garden was too slippery for my LJ on 35s. Always enjoy these videos!
Did you complete the trail or turn around?
Was an awesome experience with a great leader. Thank you Jashua. It is worth the travel to do an awesome trail.
Great wheeling with you all. Looking forward to our next adventure.
Love this trail
It's a good one. What is your favorite part?
Great video!
Thank you, if you don't mind me asking. What are you favorite parts?
@JeepAdventures We haven't made it there yet but Big Bear is where my wife's family grew up so we are planning a trip to grab some badges and see family
3 badges all in one little area. All 3 trails are great too. Have fun
Great video, I love that you guys ran it from East to west which I strongly believe is the harder route. Since you have gravity on your side when crawling through the middle rock garden when traveling West to East…. I ran this a few weeks ago and struggled just like you guys did in the middle section. Probably took my buddy and I about 1-1.5 hours to get through it. Luckily no one else was on the trail.
Very true! Sounds like a good trip.
Yea that main rock garden you can pick a great line but it will rarely let you wheel it as you must be prepared to change course on the fly. I will play Devil's advocate though Josh and cannot agree with you that the Left line can be as difficult as the Right line. When that Right line is not stacked with rocks the gaps are wide and the boulders swallow up even 40 inch tires. It makes you work and wheel, I pretty much just cruise through the Left side when we are in " path of least resistance" mode. Really good vid. Keep up the nice work. Cheers! and Happy Wheeling.
Normally i would agree with you 100% as you are right on target. I imagine you probably wheeled the trail in the last month as it seems like you are on the trails more than me, but boy that left line was a mess when we ran it. If the right line is an 8, the left was probably a 7 when we were on it where it is normally a low 6. I am not complaining by any means, but i am going to guess people will clear the rock blocking the easier line and things will return to normal.
And thank you for kind words on the video. I hope to be out wheeling soon.
This is a great trail. What do you all think?
we will see...
It’s hard… but sidewinder/ mottino was is harder IMO!
So why I say this is the hardest is because of the required or easiest line through the trail. If you do the harder options, motino and dishpan have harder stuff on them. But if you do the easiest line on the trail, that center rock garden when wet which is 80-90% of the year is hard.
As for side winder, what part are you talking about?
@@JeepAdventures I'll take that center rock section any day. It's just slippery. Sidewinder is 1/4-1/2 mile of constant crawling. It's narrower, has larger step ups, bigger rocks and is more technical to maneuver in. I personally think the section that has the huge split rock on the right that everyone take photos with, narrow squeeze section in the middle, and the left with a split crawl over is the hardest section on the mountain period. We ran it a few weeks ago and everyone with 40's is digging the trail in adding to the experience. Holcomb stays relatively the same, is maintained at times and doesn't really get dug in.
Which Sidewinder trail are you talking about? The one in Big Bear is intermediate on its best day. Motino is sort of hard but you have to take the harder lines for it to be "Hard". Send over google gps coordinates of Sidewinder.
@@JeepAdventures Sidewinder is what the bronco people call Motino wash. I hear what you're saying about lines but that's really all trails. IMO the average line in Motino is harder. Especially right now with most lines being dugout.
I get it, Mottino can get hard. I haven't seen in several months so not sure the current status. I also want to say when Holcomb is wet, it is harder, but when dry, is is much easier. Since the water is on the trail on average 10 months a year I take it as normal. But those late summer months, this trail is drastically easier without the slipping and sliding.
Minus the mess that is in the center rock garden right now.
Guess I need to get out to Mottino if we get a cool day.
This trail was tough on my rubicon with 33s.
It will give most vehicles a run for their money. But always makes for a good day.
@@JeepAdventures I haven't been with my new jeep yet. Ecodiesel rubicon on 37s. Should be fun.
You should have a good time, just make sure you go with someone just incase you get off the line and get stuck.
those rock gardens look pretty crazy. is there a way to bypass the last two?
You can exit out of 2N07X instead, but if you stay on Holcomb Creek, the trail doesn't have bypasses.
@@JeepAdventures shit, trail looks bad ass, definitely a level up from 1n09, and the small trails i hit here in mt baldy. but i dont think my 2" lift will be able to clear the last two gardens. i have a trd sport 4x4. think ima upgrade the bumper and install a winch before i go here. thank you for the info and great video man... jeep, toyota, ford, chevy.. doesnt matter as long as you hit the trails. be safe out there!
@@danielruiz3853 Thats it, all about the adventure, not what you drive.
Could you make it, maybe... I would recommend sliders and armor though. But if you want to work up to this trail, start with Heart Break Ridge, then Gold Mtn, then John Bull. leaving this trail for last.
@@JeepAdventures i do have have rock sliders, just no armor.. been thinking about upgrading my bumper this weekend.
thank you so much for the tips on the other trails, i will for sure pay it forward. maybe when i level up my rig ill see you on the trail hahah stay safe 🤙
Yeah, who's bumpers? Personally a fan of Demello Offroad.
4 door jeeps w/hard tops.......porque ?
We are to spoiled by weather here in SoCal. So if it is not between 72 and 80, we freak out and use our A/C.
@@JeepAdventures 2 door soft tops.... the only way to go...
As you seen in other videos. I do love a 2-door. But I prefer no roof. Soft top is my solid 2nd, while hard top being nice, comes in 3rd.
Motino Wash is the hardest trail
Motino flips and flops if it is hard. At times I would agree, but also depends on when you do Holcomb. If Holcomb is wet, which is like 8 to 9 months of the year, that center rock garden can get pretty hard. But if dry, its is way easier. Also depends on which way you run the trail. Dropping down the rocks is way easier then trying to climb up them.
@@JeepAdventures Holcomb has one rock on the second garden …. Motino is all rock … every inch is obstacle… it’s a flowing garden of giant jagged rocks…. It makes Holcomb feel easy ….. czcams.com/video/eRmoS9upavo/video.htmlsi=u1Uvayja8YlCE5xJ