The coverage is amazing! I expected it to take a lot longer for the fog to make it to the end of the tube. My eyes flew open wide at how quickly it happened!
Impressive demonstration. This actually looks like it works better than using ice. I've been considering converting to using a mister, you're video has me sold. Thanks for all your effort and experimentation! It'll save me a lot of time
I absolutely does work better. Been using this method for the past 3 years. The mister actually warms the water up inside. Last year I dumped Ice in the tub to help counter made it much thicker and heavier. Ice melts pretty quickly though. Oak Lane didn’t discover this process. But, he definitely has a good version of the setup.
Awesome job!!!...that's gonna look even better in colder weather once it comes around. I don't have a huge yard, but something like this will definitely help the atmosphere of any graveyard.
Too bad that haze effect doesn't extend more than a few inches from the tube. The only time I've seen the mister create a significant amount of effect was one night when it rained all day then got dead calm after dark. Even then the effect was limited to about 6-8ft above and in front of the pipe.
i think you definitely picked the right tote for the job. been looking for something sturdy that wheels around, closes air tight maybe with a little DIY. this definitely looks like the unit.
Just found your channel and subbed. Great builds! A question on using a rolling toolbox. I understand why you moved away from the tote. I was wondering if you had considered or tried using rolling coolers/ice chests. There seem to be quite a few of them for sale on used marketplaces. Should be sturdy enough not to flex and I believe they’re usually airtight. Thanks for sharing your experiences - great stuff!
This looks perfect! Will you be doing a more detailed tutorial step by step? I'd love to know more about the fogger you used, juice, and interior cooler set up.
Any 10 head mister and a marine bilge blower will work. You have to put a speed control on the blower to slow it way down. - czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.html
Really impressive! I know the intent is NOT to use any ice but would chilling the water have any measurable effect on the fog being output? Just goes to show how COMBINING technologies can produce an award-winning effect! Congrats! Thanks for sharing.
Chilling the water or adding ice to it will reduce the mister's output and could damage the heads. - czcams.com/video/C8D-g9EPXXY/video.html&ab_channel=TheHouseofHydro
i was going to do that last year and then make the setup this year from an idea i got from the more professional rigs. i decided to make a trash can chiller to save a little bit of money last year instead. seeing this video reminded me of doing this for this year. but apparently everyone is doing this now so the price of the misters have shot up significantly over last year. they're even labeled on amazon as use for Halloween and with fog machines. 🙄
Search around. 2 weeks ago I was able to find a couple of 10 heads on Amazon that came with a weatherproof power supply and floats for around $120, which was about in line with what I paid when I made mine almost 3 years ago. Some sellers have caught on to the seasonal demand, but not all of them. Watch Ebay too.
This is not just water fog alone. It's a mix of glycerin fog and water fog. I'm using a marine bilge blower to move the fog down the tube. I use a speed control to slow the blower way down.
I get this comment over and over since I first made this thing. Everyone is so entrenched in the old style ice chillers they are convinced nothing else will work. The whole point of this is to eliminate having to buy and manage ice and the mess that comes with it. Instant low fog at the flip of a switch. It 100% works just as well, if not better and for a MUCH longer time than using the old style ice chillers, no matter what type or how big. I've yet to hear back from anyone using an ultrasonic chiller in colder weather, but since it works by adding moisture to the fog instead of cooling it, I suspect the result will be the same no matter the temperature - low fog. (Except that in really cold weather the water in the box could freeze). As of this date I have yet to see anyone get an even miniscule improvement by keeping ice in the mix despite there being several CZcams videos of people doing it. In my opinion continuing to use ice with an ultrasonic chiller is a waste of time and money. Wetting the grass helps propagate the fog across a yard, but that's about the only help it needs. If you make an ultrasonic chiller and it does not create super low fog, you need to tweak things because something is not right. Box might be too small, blower might be running to high, or fog machine is too weak.
Making this will be my last project for this year and I'm having a heck of a time finding 3" drain pipe. It seems like everything is 4", could that be a local thing?
Look a vacuum hose instead. Apparently the tube I found is some kind of heavy duty stuff. 3" pvc pipe would work the same as well, but just wouldn't be flexible, but depending on how you are using it, flexibility might not be needed. PVC would have the advantage of being able to use shorter lengths connected by straight fittings to create whatever length you desire, then break down for storage. Cheap dryer vent hose or vacuum hose can be used to connect pvc to the mist box and blower. OR just go with 4" drain. I was using 6" before just fine.
First of all, thanks for the great videos! Very inspiring! One question about the Ultrasonic Fogger floats, do you think a guy could make his own out of pink styrofoam? On a tight budget and need to save some money to make this build happen. Thanks
Either that or pool noodles as long as they hold the mister at the proper level. Keep an eye out, I've seen a few misters that come with a float that only cost a few more bucks than one without.
I was looking at the 4” flanges but the pipe side doesn’t match up (too small) for the 4” pipes. How did you handler he transition? Also, where did you source the 3” flex pipe?
I found the flex hose at work in a pile of discarded drain pipe they used to clear the blockages when one of our waste pits overflowed. The company that does the work discards to pipe after using it because there is so much trash and paper pulp accumulated inside they can not use it again. Took me a while to get it all cleared out so I could use it. Not really sure where to source it from elsewhere. I was really lucky to find so much of it. The flange I used was drain flange, which is slightly different than pvc in that it is thinner than pvc so that makes the outer diameter is smaller. That's why I used the rubber coupling between the 4" flange and the 3" drain line. The rubber reducer has enough give to make up for the difference in the outer diameter of the flange and the blower slips right over it on the 3" side. (See 0:51 in the video to get a closer look at the rubber reducing fitting)
Out of curiosity, how was the decision on the hole size and spacing made? I literally just ran 3" pipe through my front yard last night and haven't yet drilled the holes. I was thinking to start with 18" and 1/2" holes, but this video was having me question this choice.
Based on my experience with using 6" pipe where my hole spacing was 12", I did some calculations and measured the flow algorithms, then consulted a pie chart and referenced Guomack's Guidebook on Laminar Flow, then decided to just take a stab in the dark on my 3" tube and drill some 1" holes spaced at whatever I felt like, which was 9" spacing with the first few feet at 18" spacing. lol. I actually DID put some thought into those first few 18" spaced holes though. I noted that with my previous tube a lot of the fog was being pushed out in the first few feet. Hence the wider spacing in the first few feet of the new hose.
I have 8 ADJ low lying foggers that need ice. They are great, however having so many, it's a pain. What motor and ultrasonic mister did you purchase? Can you link? I need this in my life!
One thing I couldn't find in the parts list (on any of the 3 fog chiller videos) is the rubber coupler you are using? Is it a straight 3" coupler that connects your bilge to the outlet pipe or does it have a step down? Its hard to tell with only getting a quick glimpse of it in the video. Any info you have would be amazing!
It was a 3" to 2" step down rubber coupling. A 3" hose or pipe, or the bilge blower should fit snugly OVER the 2" side instead of in it. There is a clear shot of it at 2:34 in the rebuild video here - czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.htmlsi=-Afm5IF0Cey-fjKJ&t=154
@OakLaneCemetery thanks! I thought that piece must have gone away with the removal of the flex tubing removal with the latest build. Any reason you don't have the bilge going inside of a standard straight 3" rubber coupling? Appreciate it!
The original vacuum hose I used would not go inside a 3" straight coupling and if it did I wouldn't have been able to seal it airtight because of the wire that was in it. I took it to Lowes and test fitted things until I found the 2" to 3" rubber coupling that fit perfectly inside the vacuum tube instead of around it. Didn't even need a clamp it was such a good fit. With the new fog tube I've eliminated the short piece of vacuum tube but by happy coincidence that same rubber adaptor also perfectly fits the bilge blower the same way so there was no need to change it.
Just got my mister delivered and other components today. Question: water consumption for the mister, have you had any testing on how long it last before you have to fill up your tote backup? Built a double 5 gallon chiller last year and looking forward to not having to deal with lbs of ice. Thx a bunch for posting
Mine seems to lose about an inch of water a night (4 hour run). I have to top it off around every 3rd night. When I top it off I usually go ahead and dump it out and refill it fully so that my water does not start to get funky. Don't want to be blasting everyone with funky vapor that could make someone sick. Keep it fresh and clean.
@@OakLaneCemetery thanks so much for the reply and information. On a side-note when researching the misters some stated they could handle adding water-soluble pigments. I'm going to do some testing to see if it will mix with the fog . I'll let you know the results on this thread. That is the other 'fog holy Grail' to see if you can get it colored.
There is a list in the description for the rebuild of the Ultrasonic Chiller. It's a couple of years old so the links may be broken now. czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.htmlsi=cVwrV4w7DtvPyVab
A less expensive machine can be used, but you might have to downsize the water chamber from what mine is. I'm covering my entire yard with just one fog machine and one distribution tube so I need a machine with high output. For a smaller area a smaller machine and box can be used. I would still use the big 10 head mister though to ensure there is enough moisture to blend with the fog.
I love the upgraded fog tube! I am actually upgrading our fog solution to be exactly like yours. Got the mister and marine pump last week and already have the tube. I was happy to see you move to the smaller tube as that is what I was going to try...thanks for proving it out for me lol. I found a cheap float valve and am going to add a garden hose adapter to it so the water will continue to remain full. Do you have any issues with heat inside the sealed box? Thanks for making it easy for me to make!
@@OakLaneCemetery Will do! Thanks. Last question, did you see a big difference when you moved the pump to sealed toolbox vs having it farther away (as shown in previous version)? Thanks again!
@@OakLaneCemetery my bad. I'm talking about the marine pump/fan. In an earlier version I believe you had it positioned at end of 6" outlet tube/pipe. Now you have it right at the outlet of the sealed toolbox before tube. Wondering if you saw better output flow. Thanks
Ah! No, no real difference other than with it positioned at the top there is less likelihood that condensation will settle inside of it. It was just simpler to just put it up top between the new tube and the box because the tube was long enough to go across the house and still room to go around the corner to the fogger. Less is usually better with any type of connection. Less parts = less to fail. Condensation buildup is a HUGE issue with this ultrasonic setup. All of that water vapor coats everything it touches and starts to collect and the next thing you know you have gallons of water settled in the piping. With the 6" drain it was not an issue because if it did build up a few inches in the bottom there was still plenty of room for the fog to flow through. I'm going to put a series of small drain holes in the underside of the new 3" tube to ensure it does not collect.
Wish I could, but I lucked out and found the piece I have in a trash pile. The original 3in tube I was using to connect the box and the old 6in fog tube was vaccum hose. Maybe start there in your search.
@@OakLaneCemetery Thanks so much. I was actually able to find some. A bit pricey but the only option I found was 100ft for $100. I hope it fits nicely over the 3in blower motor exhaust
SO I have been trying to use fluorescent dye pellets, used for testing for leaks, to make fog juice glow in black light but no go. So now I'm suspecting that there's a possibility of making the fog glow when combining the pellets with the water...???
The only thing that will do is ruin the heads on the ultrasonic mister. Same for adding it to fog juice. In a fog machine any additives will burn off and leave a residue on the injector that will eventually clog it. In a mister it will coat the ceramic heads and eventually gook them up enough to not function. The ONLY way to make colored fog is to use lighting to make it appear to glow whatever color you want it to be. My ambient lights are green, so my fog appears green when it's under them. You can make colored SMOKE easily by burning whatever chemical creates the color you want, but real smoke is nasty stuff and colored smoke is doubly so. Experiment with lighting from underneath the fog with LED strips. Many cool effects can be created like realistic flames or toxic green gas. Look at how Froggy's Fog's A1 Thanos Fog Blaster creates glowing fog effects for inspiration.
@@OakLaneCemetery I live in Florida so it rarely gets cold enough for the fog to lay low to the ground. Thank you for all of your info and guidance. My laser swamp was a big hit last year because of the fogger
Adding ice will greatly reduce the mister's ability to create mist. It has an optimum operating temperature range and going below that causes it to not work as well. The whole point of this is to get away from using ice and by adding ice you will just be creating a big, inefficient ice chiller and probably damage a $100 mister head. Ultrasonic chillers needs no additional help. They already work far better than any home made ice chiller ever made.
It's shown at 2:33 in this video. I lucked out and it fit perfectly inside the bilge blower I used. czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.htmlsi=PX4i52eZOkzZgp9n&t=154
I'm sure there is something somewhere that would fit outside instead of inside, I just used what I had lying around. It was originally used to fit a piece of flexible vacuum hose that connected the chiller to a 6" tube. I tend to use a lot of parts I have lying around in my builds to save a few bucks.
I'm working on mine now and went with the 3-inch to 3-inch rubber and clamps tighten down over the blower. Just in case anyone else is building fog chiller
Actually that is a GREAT question, and YES it does seem to create more condensation inside the tubing or piping as well as on outside surfaces it touches, mainly closest to where it exits the piping. If you think about it, it's logical because we are adding a ton of moisture to the fog. You have to really watch this setup to prevent the buildup from filling your tubing or piping. NO LOW SPOTS! I run mine slightly downhill from the box and I added small 1/8in holes to the underside of my fog tube to allow any buildup of moisture to drain. I would not recommend this setup for indoor use because of the wetness of it.
Hi again. So my brother did this and he said it kept it low well for a good 20min or so, but then the fignstarted to rise. He openeed the chiller and the water was considerably hotter which is why it probably started to rise. How do you mitigate this? Do you add ice to your water every hour or so? How do you counter the warming of the water? We are in Michigan. Thanks!!
How big is his water box and how deep is the water? I have never had mine be able to do more than slightly warm the water. Icing the water is counterproductive and will reduce the output of the mister. It should run fine until water temps reach about 140, which is pretty damn hot. Things that have stopped my mister from working or made it work intermittently were not purging air from the floats, which cased it to float just a tiny bit too high and keep turning off and on, and having the water level go down to the point that the cord to the mister lifted it out of the water enough to stop working. I've never had the water get hot enough to cut off the mister! It sounds like his box is too small, or his water is not deep enough.
Also - even a TINY bit of wind will screw up any low fog. Sometimes you can't even feel the breeze but the fog is ruined. I watch my torches for indications on what the air is doing. Flames straight up and calm - awesome fog! Flames leaning or flapping means there IS a breeze, even if I can't feel it so I know that if my fog isn't doing right, that is likely the issue. As long as the mister is running when he opens the lid to check it SHOULD be making low fog if wind conditions are right. The only other factor I can think of that might kill the effect is having the blower too high. If it's too high it will suck all of the mist out of the box before it can mix with incoming fog. You want it really low so it's just barely pulling mist out of the box.
@@OakLaneCemetery he doesn't have a blower, sorry didn't mention that. I think he built his from scratch using a mister. He's never seen your video until I showed him yours. Let me get more info. Thanks!!
Oh, and one more thing I thought of - make sure the fogger IS NOT JAMMED RIGHT AGAINST THE INLET PIPE! Doing so will cause the fog to not be able to mix with cooler outside air and fully expand. You will have weaker fog and a lot of the fog juice will not even vaporize. It will just squirt out as a hot liquid, which might eventually cause what you are describing. (though it would take a hell of a lot of it!) Pull it back 2 or 3 inches so air can get in there and mix. You will loose zero fog if your setup is right because the bilge blower will gently draw it in and keep it from escaping.
That's not what the fan is there for. Without it the fog will only move from the box when the fogger is pushing it. The fan is on a very low setting that creates a gentle continuous flow of fog out of the box between blasts. When the fogger kicks on it pretty much pushes right past the little blower anyways.
That looks amazing but I'd bet that you do not need the ultrasonic bit in place. By the time it's reaching the first hole, it's below ambient PS, thank the good lord for the MUTE button. Kill EDM
It absolutely does not work without the mister. No matter the length of pipe is still mostly goes airborne within a few feet. With the mister it crosses the entire yard and still stays right on the ground.
@@OakLaneCemeteryWill give it a shot. Just finished setting up a cooler/dry ice setup but will compare in coming days. Just need the weather to cooperate.
Yep. If it's even a little bit windy, I don't run it. Save the fog juice for better conditions. October where I am is pretty calm weather wise so I'm foutunate to get a lot of no wind nights.
I’ve seen so many setups and I think this is the one I’m gonna try! You did an amazing job!!
You are definitely my hero for having solved the fog chilling problem (at least as much as it can be solved).
Added black cat for additional creepiness.
What a great dog machine set up you have designed! Thank you!
Great Job. Thanks for Sharing.
The coverage is amazing! I expected it to take a lot longer for the fog to make it to the end of the tube. My eyes flew open wide at how quickly it happened!
Didn't happen that way with the old 6 inch fog tube!
That's perfect. I know what I'll be building on vacation this upcoming week.
Wow! That's impressive! Can't wait to see it in October with all of your fantastic upgrades this year. Thank you for sharing!
Impressive demonstration. This actually looks like it works better than using ice. I've been considering converting to using a mister, you're video has me sold. Thanks for all your effort and experimentation! It'll save me a lot of time
I absolutely does work better. Been using this method for the past 3 years. The mister actually warms the water up inside. Last year I dumped Ice in the tub to help counter made it much thicker and heavier. Ice melts pretty quickly though.
Oak Lane didn’t discover this process. But, he definitely has a good version of the setup.
Great job. This is top on my list to build when we move to our next house next year.
Now that’s is a blanket of fog!! Amazing, I’m going to start getting my chiller ready tomorrow, thanks for the update 👏🏻
Finally, I have some inspiration to get my workshop cleaned up and ready to do something!
Heck yeah man I’ll be building my 2 fog boxes this weekend and putting videos out hopefully I’ll master it from your videos!
Awesome job!!!...that's gonna look even better in colder weather once it comes around. I don't have a huge yard, but something like this will definitely help the atmosphere of any graveyard.
This is awesome! Thanks for the update! I am so far behind on this year's Halloween.... Thanks for Sharing!
The flex tube is the way to go. Even the mister running alone gives you a really nice haze effect. Very cool
Too bad that haze effect doesn't extend more than a few inches from the tube. The only time I've seen the mister create a significant amount of effect was one night when it rained all day then got dead calm after dark. Even then the effect was limited to about 6-8ft above and in front of the pipe.
@@OakLaneCemetery maybe if Halloween is a cool night it should let everything hang around longer. With no winds!
i think you definitely picked the right tote for the job. been looking for something sturdy that wheels around, closes air tight maybe with a little DIY. this definitely looks like the unit.
VERY nice! Looks so good!
Wow that's a great idea to use ultrasonic mist. So much simpler than needing to refill ice!
Put one at each end of your dispersing tube bet taht would get thicker deeper coverage sweet video pretty cool idea sir
Great job!
Excellent job! Thank you
Wow that’s impressive!
Very impressive
Just found your channel and subbed. Great builds! A question on using a rolling toolbox. I understand why you moved away from the tote. I was wondering if you had considered or tried using rolling coolers/ice chests. There seem to be quite a few of them for sale on used marketplaces. Should be sturdy enough not to flex and I believe they’re usually airtight. Thanks for sharing your experiences - great stuff!
this is awesome!
i made almoust the same , but i put also 3 frozen waterbottles in there , works reel good :)
Impressive
This looks perfect! Will you be doing a more detailed tutorial step by step? I'd love to know more about the fogger you used, juice, and interior cooler set up.
There are several videos on the fog effect and 2 ultrasonic fog tutorials in my video library
@@OakLaneCemeterythank you so much for showing this! It is so appreciated!
AWSOME!!!
Awesome effect! Thank you for sharing!
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@@OakLaneCemetery exactly! 👻🎃💀🕷️
Would you mind posting a list of the materials? I couldn't find a Kobalt box like that with a seal for the lid and wheels.
Awesome build, can we get a complete parts and supplies list? That build looks a bit more than the average and I don't want to miss details, thanks!
Check the description on the other video I did czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.html
Can you provide links to the mister and blower you used? This is amazing!
Any 10 head mister and a marine bilge blower will work. You have to put a speed control on the blower to slow it way down. - czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.html
Have you tried Froggy's Poseidon Aqua Fog Fluid to see if it makes a difference?
Really impressive! I know the intent is NOT to use any ice but would chilling the water have any measurable effect on the fog being output? Just goes to show how COMBINING technologies can produce an award-winning effect! Congrats! Thanks for sharing.
Chilling the water or adding ice to it will reduce the mister's output and could damage the heads. - czcams.com/video/C8D-g9EPXXY/video.html&ab_channel=TheHouseofHydro
@@OakLaneCemetery Good to know. Thanks!
i was going to do that last year and then make the setup this year from an idea i got from the more professional rigs. i decided to make a trash can chiller to save a little bit of money last year instead. seeing this video reminded me of doing this for this year. but apparently everyone is doing this now so the price of the misters have shot up significantly over last year. they're even labeled on amazon as use for Halloween and with fog machines. 🙄
Search around. 2 weeks ago I was able to find a couple of 10 heads on Amazon that came with a weatherproof power supply and floats for around $120, which was about in line with what I paid when I made mine almost 3 years ago. Some sellers have caught on to the seasonal demand, but not all of them. Watch Ebay too.
What knd of pump do you use? I am looking for a way or moving water fog with droplets 20nm to 50nm.
This is not just water fog alone. It's a mix of glycerin fog and water fog. I'm using a marine bilge blower to move the fog down the tube. I use a speed control to slow the blower way down.
I wonder if adding ice to the mix would change anything. Being in Canada, air temps are pretty low come the night of spooks.
I get this comment over and over since I first made this thing. Everyone is so entrenched in the old style ice chillers they are convinced nothing else will work. The whole point of this is to eliminate having to buy and manage ice and the mess that comes with it. Instant low fog at the flip of a switch. It 100% works just as well, if not better and for a MUCH longer time than using the old style ice chillers, no matter what type or how big. I've yet to hear back from anyone using an ultrasonic chiller in colder weather, but since it works by adding moisture to the fog instead of cooling it, I suspect the result will be the same no matter the temperature - low fog. (Except that in really cold weather the water in the box could freeze). As of this date I have yet to see anyone get an even miniscule improvement by keeping ice in the mix despite there being several CZcams videos of people doing it. In my opinion continuing to use ice with an ultrasonic chiller is a waste of time and money. Wetting the grass helps propagate the fog across a yard, but that's about the only help it needs. If you make an ultrasonic chiller and it does not create super low fog, you need to tweak things because something is not right. Box might be too small, blower might be running to high, or fog machine is too weak.
Making this will be my last project for this year and I'm having a heck of a time finding 3" drain pipe. It seems like everything is 4", could that be a local thing?
Look a vacuum hose instead. Apparently the tube I found is some kind of heavy duty stuff. 3" pvc pipe would work the same as well, but just wouldn't be flexible, but depending on how you are using it, flexibility might not be needed. PVC would have the advantage of being able to use shorter lengths connected by straight fittings to create whatever length you desire, then break down for storage. Cheap dryer vent hose or vacuum hose can be used to connect pvc to the mist box and blower. OR just go with 4" drain. I was using 6" before just fine.
First of all, thanks for the great videos! Very inspiring! One question about the Ultrasonic Fogger floats, do you think a guy could make his own out of pink styrofoam? On a tight budget and need to save some money to make this build happen. Thanks
Either that or pool noodles as long as they hold the mister at the proper level. Keep an eye out, I've seen a few misters that come with a float that only cost a few more bucks than one without.
I was looking at the 4” flanges but the pipe side doesn’t match up (too small) for the 4” pipes. How did you handler he transition? Also, where did you source the 3” flex pipe?
I found the flex hose at work in a pile of discarded drain pipe they used to clear the blockages when one of our waste pits overflowed. The company that does the work discards to pipe after using it because there is so much trash and paper pulp accumulated inside they can not use it again. Took me a while to get it all cleared out so I could use it. Not really sure where to source it from elsewhere. I was really lucky to find so much of it. The flange I used was drain flange, which is slightly different than pvc in that it is thinner than pvc so that makes the outer diameter is smaller. That's why I used the rubber coupling between the 4" flange and the 3" drain line. The rubber reducer has enough give to make up for the difference in the outer diameter of the flange and the blower slips right over it on the 3" side. (See 0:51 in the video to get a closer look at the rubber reducing fitting)
Out of curiosity, how was the decision on the hole size and spacing made? I literally just ran 3" pipe through my front yard last night and haven't yet drilled the holes. I was thinking to start with 18" and 1/2" holes, but this video was having me question this choice.
Based on my experience with using 6" pipe where my hole spacing was 12", I did some calculations and measured the flow algorithms, then consulted a pie chart and referenced Guomack's Guidebook on Laminar Flow, then decided to just take a stab in the dark on my 3" tube and drill some 1" holes spaced at whatever I felt like, which was 9" spacing with the first few feet at 18" spacing. lol. I actually DID put some thought into those first few 18" spaced holes though. I noted that with my previous tube a lot of the fog was being pushed out in the first few feet. Hence the wider spacing in the first few feet of the new hose.
I have 8 ADJ low lying foggers that need ice. They are great, however having so many, it's a pain. What motor and ultrasonic mister did you purchase? Can you link? I need this in my life!
There is a parts list in the description here - czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.html
Where did you get that blower ? Awesome affect man. Looking to do something like this this year.
There is a parts list in the build video
The fog is great. 3" tube is half the size of 6" tube, but it still sticks out. How do you hide it?
I don't really. I run it against the front of the house and nobody seems to notice it. When it's running the fog obscures it.
This is super cool! How many emitters does your ultrasonic unit have?
I'm using a 10 head unit.
One thing I couldn't find in the parts list (on any of the 3 fog chiller videos) is the rubber coupler you are using? Is it a straight 3" coupler that connects your bilge to the outlet pipe or does it have a step down? Its hard to tell with only getting a quick glimpse of it in the video.
Any info you have would be amazing!
It was a 3" to 2" step down rubber coupling. A 3" hose or pipe, or the bilge blower should fit snugly OVER the 2" side instead of in it. There is a clear shot of it at 2:34 in the rebuild video here - czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.htmlsi=-Afm5IF0Cey-fjKJ&t=154
@OakLaneCemetery thanks! I thought that piece must have gone away with the removal of the flex tubing removal with the latest build.
Any reason you don't have the bilge going inside of a standard straight 3" rubber coupling?
Appreciate it!
The original vacuum hose I used would not go inside a 3" straight coupling and if it did I wouldn't have been able to seal it airtight because of the wire that was in it. I took it to Lowes and test fitted things until I found the 2" to 3" rubber coupling that fit perfectly inside the vacuum tube instead of around it. Didn't even need a clamp it was such a good fit. With the new fog tube I've eliminated the short piece of vacuum tube but by happy coincidence that same rubber adaptor also perfectly fits the bilge blower the same way so there was no need to change it.
Just got my mister delivered and other components today. Question: water consumption for the mister, have you had any testing on how long it last before you have to fill up your tote backup? Built a double 5 gallon chiller last year and looking forward to not having to deal with lbs of ice. Thx a bunch for posting
Mine seems to lose about an inch of water a night (4 hour run). I have to top it off around every 3rd night. When I top it off I usually go ahead and dump it out and refill it fully so that my water does not start to get funky. Don't want to be blasting everyone with funky vapor that could make someone sick. Keep it fresh and clean.
@@OakLaneCemetery thanks so much for the reply and information. On a side-note when researching the misters some stated they could handle adding water-soluble pigments. I'm going to do some testing to see if it will mix with the fog . I'll let you know the results on this thread. That is the other 'fog holy Grail' to see if you can get it colored.
Can you please give a list of all items and where you got them pleade
There is a list in the description for the rebuild of the Ultrasonic Chiller. It's a couple of years old so the links may be broken now. czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.htmlsi=cVwrV4w7DtvPyVab
Great stuff! Do you need the big $250 dollar fog machine or can you get a similar effect with the $60 dollar machines?
A less expensive machine can be used, but you might have to downsize the water chamber from what mine is. I'm covering my entire yard with just one fog machine and one distribution tube so I need a machine with high output. For a smaller area a smaller machine and box can be used. I would still use the big 10 head mister though to ensure there is enough moisture to blend with the fog.
I love the upgraded fog tube! I am actually upgrading our fog solution to be exactly like yours. Got the mister and marine pump last week and already have the tube. I was happy to see you move to the smaller tube as that is what I was going to try...thanks for proving it out for me lol. I found a cheap float valve and am going to add a garden hose adapter to it so the water will continue to remain full. Do you have any issues with heat inside the sealed box? Thanks for making it easy for me to make!
No issues with heat. Keep a close eye on the condition of your water to ensure you do t get any bacterial growth. I dump and refill every 2 days.
@@OakLaneCemetery Will do! Thanks. Last question, did you see a big difference when you moved the pump to sealed toolbox vs having it farther away (as shown in previous version)? Thanks again!
Not sure what you mean. The small water pump in the 1st version was eliminated by using floats in version 2
@@OakLaneCemetery my bad. I'm talking about the marine pump/fan. In an earlier version I believe you had it positioned at end of 6" outlet tube/pipe. Now you have it right at the outlet of the sealed toolbox before tube. Wondering if you saw better output flow. Thanks
Ah! No, no real difference other than with it positioned at the top there is less likelihood that condensation will settle inside of it. It was just simpler to just put it up top between the new tube and the box because the tube was long enough to go across the house and still room to go around the corner to the fogger. Less is usually better with any type of connection. Less parts = less to fail. Condensation buildup is a HUGE issue with this ultrasonic setup. All of that water vapor coats everything it touches and starts to collect and the next thing you know you have gallons of water settled in the piping. With the 6" drain it was not an issue because if it did build up a few inches in the bottom there was still plenty of room for the fog to flow through. I'm going to put a series of small drain holes in the underside of the new 3" tube to ensure it does not collect.
I'm having a heck of a hard time finding 3 inch non perforated drain pipe. Can you share and tips on where to look?
Wish I could, but I lucked out and found the piece I have in a trash pile. The original 3in tube I was using to connect the box and the old 6in fog tube was vaccum hose. Maybe start there in your search.
@@OakLaneCemetery Thanks so much. I was actually able to find some. A bit pricey but the only option I found was 100ft for $100. I hope it fits nicely over the 3in blower motor exhaust
If it doesn't you can always use a rubber adaptor sleeve and hose clamps.
SO I have been trying to use fluorescent dye pellets, used for testing for leaks, to make fog juice glow in black light but no go. So now I'm suspecting that there's a possibility of making the fog glow when combining the pellets with the water...???
The only thing that will do is ruin the heads on the ultrasonic mister. Same for adding it to fog juice. In a fog machine any additives will burn off and leave a residue on the injector that will eventually clog it. In a mister it will coat the ceramic heads and eventually gook them up enough to not function. The ONLY way to make colored fog is to use lighting to make it appear to glow whatever color you want it to be. My ambient lights are green, so my fog appears green when it's under them. You can make colored SMOKE easily by burning whatever chemical creates the color you want, but real smoke is nasty stuff and colored smoke is doubly so. Experiment with lighting from underneath the fog with LED strips. Many cool effects can be created like realistic flames or toxic green gas. Look at how Froggy's Fog's A1 Thanos Fog Blaster creates glowing fog effects for inspiration.
I will have to try the 3” hose on mine also. What fog juice are you using?
Using my own mix leftover from last year.
@@OakLaneCemetery I live in Florida so it rarely gets cold enough for the fog to lay low to the ground. Thank you for all of your info and guidance. My laser swamp was a big hit last year because of the fogger
So, I wonder if you did put ice in the water if that would help even further? Since it would chill the water that is being turned into mist.
Adding ice will greatly reduce the mister's ability to create mist. It has an optimum operating temperature range and going below that causes it to not work as well. The whole point of this is to get away from using ice and by adding ice you will just be creating a big, inefficient ice chiller and probably damage a $100 mister head. Ultrasonic chillers needs no additional help. They already work far better than any home made ice chiller ever made.
The House Of Hydro talks about temperature and misters here - czcams.com/video/C8D-g9EPXXY/video.htmlsi=D4Kua_f9nIXfNT7X
What adapter are you using at the blower from the 3 inch pipe
It's shown at 2:33 in this video. I lucked out and it fit perfectly inside the bilge blower I used. czcams.com/video/od-nG93ywDA/video.htmlsi=PX4i52eZOkzZgp9n&t=154
I guess nothing you found to go on the outside to keep it to 3 inch without reducing it to 2 inch on the inside?
I'm sure there is something somewhere that would fit outside instead of inside, I just used what I had lying around. It was originally used to fit a piece of flexible vacuum hose that connected the chiller to a 6" tube. I tend to use a lot of parts I have lying around in my builds to save a few bucks.
I'm working on mine now and went with the 3-inch to 3-inch rubber and clamps tighten down over the blower. Just in case anyone else is building fog chiller
What kind of trunk are you running it through?
The box is a large Kobalt tool box. There is a parts list in the build video
Maybe this is a dumb question, but does this make the fog comparatively much more "wet" vs. traditional methods?
Actually that is a GREAT question, and YES it does seem to create more condensation inside the tubing or piping as well as on outside surfaces it touches, mainly closest to where it exits the piping. If you think about it, it's logical because we are adding a ton of moisture to the fog. You have to really watch this setup to prevent the buildup from filling your tubing or piping. NO LOW SPOTS! I run mine slightly downhill from the box and I added small 1/8in holes to the underside of my fog tube to allow any buildup of moisture to drain. I would not recommend this setup for indoor use because of the wetness of it.
Hi again. So my brother did this and he said it kept it low well for a good 20min or so, but then the fignstarted to rise. He openeed the chiller and the water was considerably hotter which is why it probably started to rise. How do you mitigate this? Do you add ice to your water every hour or so? How do you counter the warming of the water? We are in Michigan. Thanks!!
How big is his water box and how deep is the water? I have never had mine be able to do more than slightly warm the water. Icing the water is counterproductive and will reduce the output of the mister. It should run fine until water temps reach about 140, which is pretty damn hot. Things that have stopped my mister from working or made it work intermittently were not purging air from the floats, which cased it to float just a tiny bit too high and keep turning off and on, and having the water level go down to the point that the cord to the mister lifted it out of the water enough to stop working. I've never had the water get hot enough to cut off the mister! It sounds like his box is too small, or his water is not deep enough.
Also - even a TINY bit of wind will screw up any low fog. Sometimes you can't even feel the breeze but the fog is ruined. I watch my torches for indications on what the air is doing. Flames straight up and calm - awesome fog! Flames leaning or flapping means there IS a breeze, even if I can't feel it so I know that if my fog isn't doing right, that is likely the issue. As long as the mister is running when he opens the lid to check it SHOULD be making low fog if wind conditions are right. The only other factor I can think of that might kill the effect is having the blower too high. If it's too high it will suck all of the mist out of the box before it can mix with incoming fog. You want it really low so it's just barely pulling mist out of the box.
@@OakLaneCemetery he doesn't have a blower, sorry didn't mention that. I think he built his from scratch using a mister. He's never seen your video until I showed him yours. Let me get more info. Thanks!!
Oh, and one more thing I thought of - make sure the fogger IS NOT JAMMED RIGHT AGAINST THE INLET PIPE! Doing so will cause the fog to not be able to mix with cooler outside air and fully expand. You will have weaker fog and a lot of the fog juice will not even vaporize. It will just squirt out as a hot liquid, which might eventually cause what you are describing. (though it would take a hell of a lot of it!) Pull it back 2 or 3 inches so air can get in there and mix. You will loose zero fog if your setup is right because the bilge blower will gently draw it in and keep it from escaping.
What foggers are you using please?
I use a Froggy's Titan 1200 for my ground fog and a little cheapo 400w from Spirit Halloween for my cauldron creep.
Woah. What’s the secret sauce here if ice isn’t used? The mister?
No secret sauce. Turns out water vapor works even better than an ice chiller. Check my videos for the tutorial.
And then I see this...
Ice chillers are gonna be a thing of the past real soon. lol These things work so well.
That fan can't be making it better. That Titan is rated at 20k cfm of fog and that fan is probably 200cfm. You're choking it out.
That's not what the fan is there for. Without it the fog will only move from the box when the fogger is pushing it. The fan is on a very low setting that creates a gentle continuous flow of fog out of the box between blasts. When the fogger kicks on it pretty much pushes right past the little blower anyways.
the bigger question is cost lol
$200-$300 for this build as compared to well over $1000 for the pro units that work the same.
Bit more than I can justify paying but it is a cool concept.
That looks amazing but I'd bet that you do not need the ultrasonic bit in place. By the time it's reaching the first hole, it's below ambient
PS, thank the good lord for the MUTE button. Kill EDM
It absolutely does not work without the mister. No matter the length of pipe is still mostly goes airborne within a few feet. With the mister it crosses the entire yard and still stays right on the ground.
@@OakLaneCemeteryWill give it a shot. Just finished setting up a cooler/dry ice setup but will compare in coming days. Just need the weather to cooperate.
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Yep. If it's even a little bit windy, I don't run it. Save the fog juice for better conditions. October where I am is pretty calm weather wise so I'm foutunate to get a lot of no wind nights.