I have a nice big yard with space on the side too. The side yard it's just sitting there looking boring..I want to use that space too..the side yard has a slope which iam thinking of removing or adding dirt to level. After that iam gonna lay down concrete to use that space too. However, now iam debating between gravel and concrete for the side yard space ( 15ft from house to fence and 60ft long.)...my only concern is gravel getting stuck under shoes and bringing it into the house...I have very nice plank vinyl flooring.. we won't be taking shoes off to go into house.
Hi, great simple video, thanks for sharing! Question..I have a lot of grass to dig up before I can begin my project..I'll have to research how to utilize that sod remover. But what is the material you put down below the gravel? Is it actually an 'item 4'?
dham99 “Item #4. Another popular gravel often used as a foundation for driveways is known as Item #4, which is a mixture of machine-crushed stones that measure roughly the size of a golf ball, along with sand and dirt.” Your stone yard will know what this is! You can get machine sod cutter. The manual is quite hard to use. Good luck.
@@natashahabermann1874 The previous owners of my house put "item 4" aka crush and run all over my yard underneath pea gravel and egg rock. Now I'm here and I'm trying to remove it and its like concrete. Weeds have grown in it and they are virtually impossible to dig out.
Nice video. Just found it and wondering if the gravel you laid down is pre-washed? We have a large garden area that we put down landscape fabric but the pea gravel we got had so much dirt in it we had to wash it all. What a time consuming pain (weeds would have rooted above the fabric). We need another inch layer and do not want to waste anymore time washing 6 yards of it. Anyone know of a bulk, washed gravel place in the NY tri-state area?
Thanks, Natasha, looks great. Like your yard, my yard is raked for drainage. How did you take that into account? Is this type of filler porous enough that you don't worry about it?
chompachangas we didn’t really have to worry about drainage as both patios drain off on a hill! The item 4 is porous. If you don’t have good drainage I’d recommend adding a drain! Good luck!
Corvus Curious thanks! the joists connect the beams end to end. The beams themselves are not “connected” if you fast forward to minute two, I try to explain it there! Good luck
This is great! Is there are reason you used item 4 rather than sand underneath the gravel? I’m wanting to install a gravel patio but I’m worried about how stable it will be underfoot... do you find that this is nice and stable?
FCfrank the item 4 is very stable! Sand might not be stable. do not to put more than 2” of gravel down. When the gravel is too thick, it’s hard to walk on. Good luck!
@@natashahabermann1874 Awesome, thanks so much! and with the item 4 you find that the stone doesn't move too much under foot? solid enough to put a table and chairs on?
FCfrank as long as there isn’t too much gravel you’re good to out patio furniture on! The furniture sinks down to the item 4 keeping it stable. Good luck!
This seems to be a very cost friendly project compared to the cost of having a patio built or even pavers. In most areas pea gravel is cheap. Call your local landscaper supplier in my area it is $30 per ton !
Little Wolf Item #4. Another popular gravel often used as a foundation for driveways is known as Item #4, which is a mixture of machine-crushed stones that measure roughly the size of a golf ball, along with sand and dirt.
It looks beautiful. I love the fence around the area, along with the plant borders. Inspiring. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I have a nice big yard with space on the side too. The side yard it's just sitting there looking boring..I want to use that space too..the side yard has a slope which iam thinking of removing or adding dirt to level. After that iam gonna lay down concrete to use that space too. However, now iam debating between gravel and concrete for the side yard space ( 15ft from house to fence and 60ft long.)...my only concern is gravel getting stuck under shoes and bringing it into the house...I have very nice plank vinyl flooring.. we won't be taking shoes off to go into house.
Iy as just made a drunking game. Drink whenva she says ITEM 4. Immmm outt. But itwazza good video so goodjob.
Hi, great simple video, thanks for sharing!
Question..I have a lot of grass to dig up before I can begin my project..I'll have to research how to utilize that sod remover. But what is the material you put down below the gravel? Is it actually an 'item 4'?
dham99
“Item #4. Another popular gravel often used as a foundation for driveways is known as Item #4, which is a mixture of machine-crushed stones that measure roughly the size of a golf ball, along with sand and dirt.” Your stone yard will know what this is! You can get machine sod cutter. The manual is quite hard to use. Good luck.
@@natashahabermann1874 The previous owners of my house put "item 4" aka crush and run all over my yard underneath pea gravel and egg rock. Now I'm here and I'm trying to remove it and its like concrete. Weeds have grown in it and they are virtually impossible to dig out.
@@kathsch8966 yes item 4 when wet can compact like dense clay. It does not drain well compare to gravel.
What is item 4?
Nice video. Just found it and wondering if the gravel you laid down is pre-washed? We have a large garden area that we put down landscape fabric but the pea gravel we got had so much dirt in it we had to wash it all. What a time consuming pain (weeds would have rooted above the fabric). We need another inch layer and do not want to waste anymore time washing 6 yards of it. Anyone know of a bulk, washed gravel place in the NY tri-state area?
Thanks, Natasha, looks great. Like your yard, my yard is raked for drainage. How did you take that into account? Is this type of filler porous enough that you don't worry about it?
chompachangas we didn’t really have to worry about drainage as both patios drain off on a hill! The item 4 is porous. If you don’t have good drainage I’d recommend adding a drain! Good luck!
Turned out beautiful!
Is that 3/8 rock? The pea gravel I'm looking into is 3/8 in size and has some smooth and crushed stone's.
Thanks! I used Crushed Berkshire 3/8 gravel. Hope this helps! www.bedfordgravel.com/decorative-gravel-and-stone-gallery
Amazing, I'm just working on mine now. How did you join the wood end to end? I'm read suggests of using a dowel, or a very large staple?
Corvus Curious thanks! the joists connect the beams end to end. The beams themselves are not “connected” if you fast forward to minute two, I try to explain it there! Good luck
Its been 5 years since your video post. How is it holding up?
Item 4, item 4....??
This is great! Is there are reason you used item 4 rather than sand underneath the gravel? I’m wanting to install a gravel patio but I’m worried about how stable it will be underfoot... do you find that this is nice and stable?
FCfrank the item 4 is very stable! Sand might not be stable. do not to put more than 2” of gravel down. When the gravel is too thick, it’s hard to walk on. Good luck!
@@natashahabermann1874 Awesome, thanks so much! and with the item 4 you find that the stone doesn't move too much under foot? solid enough to put a table and chairs on?
FCfrank as long as there isn’t too much gravel you’re good to out patio furniture on! The furniture sinks down to the item 4 keeping it stable. Good luck!
@@natashahabermann1874 Thanks heaps! appreciate it
But what is item 4?
ABC gravel aka "crush and run"
That looks beautiful but I'm worried about the cost
This seems to be a very cost friendly project compared to the cost of having a patio built or even pavers. In most areas pea gravel is cheap. Call your local landscaper supplier in my area it is $30 per ton !
Your local stone shop?
No cost or estimate?
RJ Crooks hey there. I wrote a blog post on top of the post that talks about pricing. www.natashahabermann.com/post/2018/06/13/diy-pea-stone-patio
NATASHA HABERMANN , excellent. Thank you!!!
Bill Dugan
What’s “The Item 4”
Little Wolf
Item #4. Another popular gravel often used as a foundation for driveways is known as Item #4, which is a mixture of machine-crushed stones that measure roughly the size of a golf ball, along with sand and dirt.
what is item 4? lol
ABC gravel aka "crush and run"
Item 9 is better
Next time rather than show us diagrams... just film it
JewDd* 89 thanks for you precious feedback. Next time you do hard labor by yourself, make sure you’re filming it too.
I like the diagram. But I would also like the filming in addition. Good job Natasha