RAM 2500 HEMI ZF 8 Speed Towing Up 6% Grade With Real World MPG: This Out Towed The Ford 7.3L Gas V8

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  • I had a chance to tow with a 2021 RAM 2500 with the 6.4L HEMI gas V8 up a 6% grade! It beat the Ford 7.3L Godzilla and Chevy 6.6L Gas L8T! || Like || Subscribe || Share || #JBReviews #whowork
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Komentáře • 186

  • @panthermartin7784
    @panthermartin7784 Před 19 dny +18

    Have a good friend that owns a Napa store, he tells me he has a trending group of repeat customers that have gone back to HD gas trucks, something as simple as an oil change is saving them money and grief. If your really going to be honest with yourself most customers make due with a gas truck while avoiding modern emissions heartaches. Love the gas truck reviews!

    • @Kanakid
      @Kanakid Před 17 dny

      Agree! I purchased a 2024 PW. Love the 6.4 Hemi.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      If you actually do the math, the choice to go with a gasser is clear. The only exception is heavy and/or frequent towing.

  • @T410ce
    @T410ce Před 18 dny +11

    The modern hemi is one of the best V8’s ever made. With regular oil changes it is durable and they just pull. The ZF-8 speed is an absolute wonder of a trans, incredibly durable and reliable… Having worked as a Dodge tech for 14 years up until 2014 I can definitely see how Dodge / Ram quality has increased drastically over the years; no clue how people can be hating on Ram like they do…

    • @jeffs2809
      @jeffs2809 Před 18 dny +1

      I had every intention of buying an either a Ram hd with 6.4/8 spd or a 1500 Hemi/8 spd as a second vehicle. Doing research on both in forums and facebook groups, patterns began appearing. First, it’s a crap shoot whether a 6.4 would make 100,000 miles before needing cam/lifter replacement. The 5.7 was almost as bad, but better. 2nd, you’re guaranteed to need new exhaust manifolds at least once before 100,000 miles on the 5.7, maybe the 6.4 as well. The 1500’s built after 2019 will eventually have a leaking rear window/brake light. You’ll need to flush the heater core one or 2 times and ultimately replace it to keep heat in the cab(mostly 1500’s).
      I currently own a ‘17 2500 with Cummins that’s been a very good truck. I’ve owned several previous hd ram diesels, all have been trouble free. I don’t see any evidence that recent production Ram trucks are or will be all that reliable. If I had to replace my Ram 2500 today, I’d be test driving the Ford and GMC HD gas trucks.

    • @okcmoparguy724
      @okcmoparguy724 Před 18 dny +3

      I work on these as well. This cam/lifter thing is overblown. It's almost exclusively customers that rack up tons of idle time and change oil based on the odometer (ie fleet). If that engine is serviced on time with good quality oil & filter they have outstanding reliability.....both 5.7L and 6.4L. Like anything else though people have to learn to take care of it.

    • @T410ce
      @T410ce Před 16 dny +2

      @@okcmoparguy724 … exactly. Extensive idling and extended service intervals will kill ANY modern engine, not just hemi’s. Hemi’s were great. I feel terrible for you having to work on those hurricanes now, my buddy still at the dealership says they are a real PITA.

    • @79random
      @79random Před 14 dny

      ​@okcmoparguy724 legitimately curious as to what would be considered lots of idle time? Are we talking 20 min warm ups every day in the winter or is it hours a day?

    • @tedlulis973
      @tedlulis973 Před 12 dny +1

      ​@@79random 20 minutes warm up time is ridiculous

  • @warrior4-u
    @warrior4-u Před 19 dny +17

    Went from a 2013 Sierra 2500 6.0 with 410 gears to a 2024 Ram 2500 6.4 with 3.73 gears (no 410s in stock when I bought mine). Was a little worried how it would pull, have been nothing but impressed at how much better it pulls than my GMC did. (Only pull heavy about 5 or 6 times a year)

    • @Reshard834
      @Reshard834 Před 18 dny +2

      Gmc gas engines are horrible at towing

    • @RF-cz4ln
      @RF-cz4ln Před 15 dny

      Went from 2021 Chevy 2500 6.6 gas to Ram 2500 2024 6.4 hemi , owned GM trucks for 25 years, my 2021 was absolutely garbage, my first Ram and it tows my skid steer without any problems.

  • @briancavanaugh7604
    @briancavanaugh7604 Před 19 dny +14

    These can be had at a discount at the moment. We are looking at a 3500 for 46k, which was an impossibility not that long ago. I have seen sub 60 Laramie in the 2500 and mid to low 50's for Big Horns. The 3500 we have our eye on is a tradesman but has a larger screen, bed liner, shift on fly, snow plow prep, basically what we need. Decisions, decisions. THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO JB!

    • @briancavanaugh7604
      @briancavanaugh7604 Před 19 dny +2

      I'm also seeing sub 60's with the Cummins for those that what the diesel.

    • @SaltyDog69
      @SaltyDog69 Před 18 dny +1

      They’re not near that price in my area. Current price is $54,740 for the Tradesman 4x4.

    • @briancavanaugh7604
      @briancavanaugh7604 Před 17 dny

      @@SaltyDog69 Might be worth it to have em shipped or fly out depending on where you are. Check out cargurus and take the listing in to the locals and see if they will match or come close. Most of these I am looking at have been on the lots for 100+ days.

  • @jeffreyzabawski4862
    @jeffreyzabawski4862 Před 18 dny +5

    I love this freakin transmission. I went from a 2010 Chrysler 300 to a 21, and this Trans is worth the price of admission alone. Unlike most cars all the shifts are precise af, and also really quick and powerful. Yet with a full truck I get 30mpg plus everytime on the Highway, and in the city 22mpg without even trying. Even going up hill with a full trunk fells absolutely effortless, i really dont know how else to explpain it.

    • @MoparGuy-x1r
      @MoparGuy-x1r Před 18 dny +2

      My cousin bought a 2021 6.4 hemi with the zf8. What a freak of nature that truck is so incredibly responsive compared to the trash 68 re they used for years. So much fun driving it I am considering buying one😊

  • @Gladiatorguy1998
    @Gladiatorguy1998 Před 19 dny +14

    My dad owns a construction company and he’s owned them all, and he owns a 23 2500 now with the 6.4 and 3.73’s. He added a set of air bags and he’s got multiple trailers and equipment. A skid steer that weighs 11k and a forklift that weighs 20k and that 6.4 will pull the shit out of them.

    • @davidlefranc6240
      @davidlefranc6240 Před 18 dny +1

      The problem is you need factual numbers like TFL !

    • @Gladiatorguy1998
      @Gladiatorguy1998 Před 18 dny

      We don’t have any problems pulling anything we got.

    • @dwight122324
      @dwight122324 Před 18 dny +2

      20k being pulled by a 2500 with 6.4? That seems to be way over its capacity no?

    • @Gladiatorguy1998
      @Gladiatorguy1998 Před 18 dny

      @@dwight122324 slightly lol, but it handles it fine. My dad has told me lots of stories about the loads they pulled with old F250’s with 460’s back in the day and never had an issue and their towing capacities sucked.

    • @MoparGuy-x1r
      @MoparGuy-x1r Před 18 dny +2

      ​@@dwight122324I remember as a kid the old square body rams with the 360s and 12 valves pulling stuff you wouldn't believe like combines and tractors in old school eagle and star idaho.. Those were only rated at 160-180 hp back in the 90s for any of those engines. So it is feasible for a 6.4 hemi with the 8 speed and 3:73s to pull 20k

  • @chris-zc7rp
    @chris-zc7rp Před 19 dny +34

    Bought a 24 2500 tradesman with towing package, larger screen, chrome package, Bed liner, snow prep for 52k. As far as 2500/3500. Get the 2500 and throw some timbrens on there and your solid. If you are towing under 13k get the hemi all day long. Best riding truck on market not hitched as well.

    • @mad125100
      @mad125100 Před 19 dny +1

      Thanks for the info.

    • @chadmiller6487
      @chadmiller6487 Před 18 dny +4

      How about longevity? I tow 6 days a week. Just not heavy. 8-10k. I just want something that'll give me +300k without a rebuild. So far the toyota 5.7 and the gm 6.0 were the only engines I've had this experience with. I have the gm 6.6 gas now with almost 70k on it. So far so good.

    • @johnm.515
      @johnm.515 Před 18 dny +8

      23 2500 Big Horn Hemi and will never own anything else. I tow a 7,000 lb travel trailer. Tows like nothing is there.

    • @tdub2888
      @tdub2888 Před 18 dny

      I'm gonna put Timbrens on my 1500 Classic.
      I do wish I'd have looked at more 2500's but at that time in 2019 the incentives were on the classics....

    • @chris-zc7rp
      @chris-zc7rp Před 18 dny +6

      @@chadmiller6487be hard pressed to get 300k out of any gasser towing 6 days a week. 200k should be no problem with the 6.4 hemi. I turned in a 6.4 hemi with 180k and was running perfect.

  • @Tony-b8s
    @Tony-b8s Před 18 dny +6

    I own a 2023 F250 with the 6.8L V8. I tow a 10k lbs travel trailer 2-3 times a year. No problems so far and it’s also my daily driver. I chose it because it doesn’t have cylinder deactivation and it’s naturally aspirated with port fuel injection. It comes with a forged crankshaft and 6-bolt main bearings. It seems to be designed for longevity and simple low cost maintenance.

    • @zacharytrull6107
      @zacharytrull6107 Před 18 dny +2

      The 6.4 also has a forged crank and extra oil coolers. Only bad thing is the MDS, you can always turn that off tho

    • @Tony-b8s
      @Tony-b8s Před 17 dny +1

      @@zacharytrull6107 yes oil and transmission coolers are definitely needed for towing. The Ford Super Duty’s also have them.

    • @zacharytrull6107
      @zacharytrull6107 Před 17 dny +1

      @@Tony-b8s the gas engines just seem to make more sense than diesels tbh. Plus all the the gas options available for the big three are pretty decent

    • @Tony-b8s
      @Tony-b8s Před 17 dny +2

      @@zacharytrull6107 I agree today’s 3/4 ton and above engines from Ford, Ram, GM are making the same power and torque as older diesels. The government has essentially killled the diesel market unless you buy older models. Here in CA diesel costs more than regular fuel and all the less maintenance involved with gas engines makes it a no brainer. But there are people that still require diesels like hot shot truckers or the guys with the 20k lbs or more 5th wheels. Life’s short buy what makes you happy. That’s what I did. I bought what fits me and my family and our travel needs.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      I don't think that all the 6.8 internals are forged (cost saving) and you got the 10R100 not the heavier duty 10R140 transmission.

  • @Silverbllt
    @Silverbllt Před 19 dny +7

    I do love that 360 camera on the side like that

  • @hammertimebc1934
    @hammertimebc1934 Před 19 dny +5

    Awesome love this review. I have a 2023 ram 3500 DRW but I'm looking at getting into something like this instead.

  • @glenparks5175
    @glenparks5175 Před 19 dny +5

    I love my Ram outdoorsman, half ton 3.92 gears pulls great

  • @BD1974_Mac
    @BD1974_Mac Před 18 dny +1

    I have this exact truck I had a chance to get a Cummins after a test drive I saw the fuel mileage and my experience with the emissions I wanted nothing to do with a diesel. My wife and adult children can drive and gas it up with no problem. I might eventually get a big truck to tow my rv, $90,000 just doesn’t sound fun, I can buy a big rig for $20K or way less to tow the once a month I travel 50 miles maybe… but this truck is so versatile given that you’re usually loaded going one way, it does the job with tremendous fuel mileage and doesn’t raise one eyebrow when out on the road . Thanks for featuring this truck!

  • @stevefrench4595
    @stevefrench4595 Před 19 dny +4

    I have a '22 Cummins and I tow out west once per year at 17K gross. This is an eye-opener.

  • @SliderFury1
    @SliderFury1 Před 17 dny +1

    That ZF trans is goated, no question that's doing a lot of the work to get those numbers.

  • @jamespenner1412
    @jamespenner1412 Před 19 dny +7

    Would love to get a ram 2500 hemi mega cab for the farm. The new diesels are out for me.

    • @johnnicpon5783
      @johnnicpon5783 Před 18 dny +4

      Unfortunately they no longer put the 6.4 Hemi in the MegaCab or higher trim levels. Stupid decision on Stellantis part. I have a 2020 Ram 2500 MegaCab Limited with the 6.4 Hemi, 4.10 rear end and Air suspension. I tow my 30' 9000 pound travel trailer. Always plenty of power in both the flats and the grades. When I tow I am generally driving a good 8 hours. So we wanted a comfortable cabin. And we also like to take company along. The MegaCab provides a comfortable back seat for that company on those long drives.

  • @michaelpopp1783
    @michaelpopp1783 Před 18 dny +1

    I have a 23 2500 Laramie with 4.10’s. It pulls great. I only tow a 6000lb boat, but i have to look back and make sure it’s there. Brakes are good. Will be adding powerstop.

  • @marksman4004
    @marksman4004 Před 18 dny +5

    The 6.4 is not bad at all. Sounds really good too. Another great tow video j-beezie. 👍🏿👍🏿

  • @drifterwannab
    @drifterwannab Před 18 dny +1

    Good idea with that heat temp gun. We need to start bringing one out to the track with us.

  • @JPBrister928
    @JPBrister928 Před 18 dny +2

    For people that don't tow that often this is a great truck I had the 22 but got tired of that 7-8mpg BS and traded it back in for a 23 limited ho dually. Night and Day difference best move I ever made other then it being double the price but yolo.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      Wait, you paid twice the price of the truck to get maybe 25-30% better fuel mileage. Diesel in my area is about 30% more expensive than 87 octane. That makes the mpg advantage of diesel a wash, now you have to recover the initial purchase price of the diesel. Numbers do not favor the diesel.

    • @JPBrister928
      @JPBrister928 Před 9 hodinami

      @M_dot202 I'm getting 12 mpg 11 worst and was 7.5 to 8.5 with the gasser. Ass end was too high and towed like crap compared to this truck and the Jakebrake air ride etc makes me love the switch even more and regret not doing it sooner 🙃

  • @ratracewelding6935
    @ratracewelding6935 Před 18 dny +3

    It's "cool", in the truck world, to hate on Ram. But most commenting negatively. on any forum, are getting their "information" from other classic Ram haters, not personal experience.

  • @Schilders146
    @Schilders146 Před 16 dny

    Appreciate the channel and your reviews of the RAM 2500 6.4. A good tune and ProCharger and you can't beat it.

  • @user-hh7no3pf2w
    @user-hh7no3pf2w Před 19 dny +2

    I had a 2022 ram 2500 and I liked it, but I couldn't stand how much it shifted so I traded it in.

  • @CTECH-REVIEW
    @CTECH-REVIEW Před 18 dny

    Dude! That sucker was ripping! I felt like I needed a hearing aid after hearing it hold WOT for so long. haha great video!

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      No need to hold 60mph up a 6% grade, slow down and save the truck. Of course it's not JBs truck...

  • @chadstellwagen3460
    @chadstellwagen3460 Před 9 dny

    The lower temp probably helped the hemi but it’s definitely impressive

  • @chrisdimiceli4057
    @chrisdimiceli4057 Před 17 dny +1

    Good set of true dule exhaust and a good air cleaner, then run it again and I bet the uphill would improve you gotta let them hemi breathe one of the best sounding engines out there with a good set of pipes. I'm just saying I got to hear that engine and feel the power band. Nice review

  • @tonynimmons111
    @tonynimmons111 Před 18 dny +3

    I’m impressed that the truck didn’t break down.

  • @M_dot202
    @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

    The 7.3 requires 91+ octane to develop full power, the 6.4 develops full power with 87 octane.

  • @AB-coyote
    @AB-coyote Před 19 dny +6

    There is a reason why they don’t just throw extra power at HD engines. It would be game over for durability.
    The 6.4 has not out performed the 7.3 in any other test and there are a few of them out there. Maybe the one you had wasn’t cared for the best. Cheap tires are a good indicator but also ambient temp plays a big role. The air is already thin where you are. Colder air is denser. Denser air means more power. Ram def had the air advantage.
    DI isn’t a gimmick. For example it’s one of the reasons the Ecoboost 3.5 can still make substantial power on lower octane although higher octane still has its advantages in any boosted application.

  • @flyingwyoming5184
    @flyingwyoming5184 Před 17 dny +1

    No way it out did the Godzilla.

  • @stephenwest798
    @stephenwest798 Před 18 dny

    Your trans is shifting to keep your engine at optimal operating rpms, a good thing not a bad thing, that's what it is engineered to do. Don't understand why people think it is a problem, it is not. I have a 07 ram 1500 4x4 5.7 hemi w/3.92 rear gears, 9 mpg towing in tow haul mode which is 4th gear an overdrive, 11 mpg towing in third which is 1:1. I only use tow haul mod when not towing in the hills, again better milage and easier on the tranny and engine.

  • @coozhunter4434
    @coozhunter4434 Před 19 dny +4

    Be sure and tell them about the extremely expensive 0w-40 oil you have to buy because it has cylinder deactivation.
    And the extremely small standard fuel tank. All these reasons plus the super short standard bed is why I sold mine.
    It did pull fine but it screams with 12,000.
    I bought the GM 6.6 and love it. No cylinder deactivation and 20 dollar oil changes 😁
    Not everyone is trying to race to the top of the mountain

    • @mad125100
      @mad125100 Před 19 dny

      Is cylinder deactivation bad? If so how? I'm currently looking at both chevy and ram with gas.

    • @Steviethegr8
      @Steviethegr8 Před 18 dny

      @@mad125100these 6.4's sound like rattle traps, have constant lifter noise that may or may not become a problem etc. they move out well but I'd get a GM for reliability

    • @JT-ko3rv
      @JT-ko3rv Před 18 dny +3

      ​@@Steviethegr8Total BS they all have problems all the service departments have work regardless of brand 🙄. Ever heard of LSPI or carbon buildup problems on direct injection engines it's a real issue

    • @Steviethegr8
      @Steviethegr8 Před 18 dny +1

      @@JT-ko3rvI'll call it how it is. I had a ram, needed a new engine at 30,000 miles. The other 2 people I know with rams, both currently have failed lifters. Idk about you but 3 out of 3 is pretty bad luck...

    • @danielmorris-ruckett913
      @danielmorris-ruckett913 Před 18 dny +2

      ​@Steviethegr8 bro You and your buddies had a rarity then. Have 6 rams 4 of them with cylinders deactivation/OHVVD including all the way back to 2012. Over 70,000 miles on average on all of them. Never had a single engine problem. Never even had a buddy or fan have issue with the lifters. It's a known possible issue sure. But is less prevalent than the issues Ford and gm are facing. Your far more likely to have your Allison overheat now in your gm.

  • @lauderdalechad
    @lauderdalechad Před 18 dny

    You really should have a picture in picture view of the gauge cluster the whole time. That way we can see what the truck is actually doing... RPM, gear etc

  • @bigvee3185
    @bigvee3185 Před 18 dny +1

    JB just wanted to say I appreciate your hard work bro and content ! Jehovah is on the thrown !! I have a question or two! I own a 2023 ram 1500 hemi! However i drive a school bus a notice that desiel lasts longer! Is my theory correct that you can possibly be at the fuel pump less with a HD vs regular gas? I’m thinking my truck I want a HD ! Thoughts ?

  • @supporterofsanity
    @supporterofsanity Před 19 dny +5

    Hemi is back on the menu boys🇺🇸💪

  • @jameshowey9958
    @jameshowey9958 Před 14 dny

    Need to be tested same day, 20 plus difference in temperature makes a huge impact on NA motors.

  • @matthewanderson9912
    @matthewanderson9912 Před 19 dny +4

    JB fanboying hard here lol.
    So two things:
    1) stop with the 4.10 stuff. You were cranking 5200 rpm in 3rd gear. That’s all you got and the 3.73 was just enough to keep from having to upshift to 4th. Also going down the road at 66 mph on flat ground you were cranking 3500 rpm. The 4.10 wouldn’t help you at all. It might have put you in one gear higher but you’d still be needing those rpms to do those speeds.
    2) the coil suspension is why you had trouble when you had to panic stop. And that ultimately means the trailer is too much for the truck. That’s the same thing that happens with half tons. They do ok in ordinary conditions but anytime something out of the ordinary happens is when they have issues. Guarantee that wouldn’t happen in a GM. I know because I have one and have had to panic stop before. That’s not a gas truck problem. That’s a Ram 2500 problem.
    Anyways those tires are great. I had them on a 1500 once and Ford use to use them as OEM tires on their Super Duty’s.

  • @TheBostonstapler
    @TheBostonstapler Před 19 dny +2

    Yes retest godzilla and the. New baby godzilla

  • @outfitr9703
    @outfitr9703 Před 19 dny +1

    I had a 2011 ram 5 speed 5.7 and although the motor was ok the trans was not up to the task. My trailer is only about 6000 lbs. Bought a Chev 2500 gas with the 10 speed and the transmission is really good. Chevy steers better, 6" longer bed, bigger back seat and auto 4x4.

    • @tylermacconnell217
      @tylermacconnell217 Před 18 dny +1

      Not comparing apples to apples here. A new RAM 2500 with the 6.4L and 8 speed auto will outperform your gas Chevy 2500. However, the RAM cab is still the same and your Chevy is a larger cab.

    • @outfitr9703
      @outfitr9703 Před 18 dny +1

      @@tylermacconnell217 I'm sure the 6.4 hemi and 8 speed would be good and certainly considered that option. But the ifs, auto 4x4, 6" longer bed, larger back seat we're total deal breakers for the ram. Those were must haves for me.

    • @tylermacconnell217
      @tylermacconnell217 Před 18 dny

      Auto 4x4 is nice, although it uses a clutch and might not ultimately be as durable when snow plowing. Agree with you on most points you make though.

  • @jasonmekush5280
    @jasonmekush5280 Před 18 dny +1

    add air bag helpers , very cheap. i have same truck

  • @marksman4004
    @marksman4004 Před 18 dny +1

    Yo j, I got a 2014 chevrolet silverado lt1 package 2wd crew cab 5.3. Basically a luxury work truck. How much you think it can tow? Will it tow a trailer like your car hauler?

  • @mxcjoe
    @mxcjoe Před 17 dny

    Had the 6.4 went to the cummins.
    Reasons
    Exhaust break
    Fuel is basically the same price
    Higher octane recommended in 6.4 when towing
    2 miles per gallon better with cummins pulling same camper(11k)
    Option to pull to semi pumps
    6.4 revved much higher pulling up mountains in Eastern Tennessee. Almost scared it was gonna blow at times.
    If you plan on towing often deisel is better in my opinion

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 14 hodinami

      2021 2500 6.4/3.73, now: 2024 2500 6.4/3.73:
      87 octane recommended per the owners manual (21+);
      We pull to Gatlinburg wo issue with 10k TT;
      We pulled over the Rockies w the 10k TT, no issues.

  • @hummyhero1484
    @hummyhero1484 Před 18 dny

    I think all the HD trucks perform well. They all got there plus and minus over one or the other. Theres no perfect truck just get the one you think is best for you and what your going to do with it

  • @kennyg6747
    @kennyg6747 Před 17 dny

    Hello JB, I was wondering if you can do a video on how to use the gear lockout on the ram 2500 hemi.

  • @user-wu8op5km2u
    @user-wu8op5km2u Před 3 dny

    Cmon JB really ,this has been done on TFL truck on the “ike” and no way it out performs the 7.3😅😅😅😅😅

  • @muchogracious1557
    @muchogracious1557 Před 18 dny

    If thats a flex fuel which it probably is, its going to perform better with E85. Better go straight to jiffy lube and get an oil change with them 255° oil temperatures. If that Ford had factory tires and wheels and no lift kit, I don't think the ram would have even been close.

  • @jeffgrise4386
    @jeffgrise4386 Před 19 dny +2

    Need get your hands on some gas dullies and compare

    • @marksman4004
      @marksman4004 Před 18 dny

      Oh yeah that's a good tow test. Hope he does a couple.

  • @jimmcknight3021
    @jimmcknight3021 Před 19 dny +2

    I'm not sure if this apples to apples comparison since the Ram is a 3/4 ton and the Ford is a 1 ton. Also what was the rear end on the Ford? Apologies if I missed it if you mentioned the Ford rear end.

    • @tylermacconnell217
      @tylermacconnell217 Před 18 dny +2

      What are you trying to say regarding “apples to apples?” A 3/4 ton truck weighs the same as the one ton truck. The difference is in the stiffness of the suspension and assigned GVWR.

    • @jimmcknight3021
      @jimmcknight3021 Před 18 dny

      @tylermacconnell217 I thought the rear ends ratio might be different. Some of the 1 ton Fords are using the 4.10 rather than a 3.73.

    • @tylermacconnell217
      @tylermacconnell217 Před 18 dny

      You can get a 4.10 ratio as an option on a 2500 RAM as well. I believe with Ford it’s actually a 4.30 ratio.

    • @jimmcknight3021
      @jimmcknight3021 Před 18 dny

      @@tylermacconnell217 My bad, I forgot that Ford used the 4.30

    • @justinbourgeois4685
      @justinbourgeois4685 Před 17 dny

      ​@@jimmcknight3021I think 1 ton and 3/4 ton are slightly different frame. So the weight is a bit different. Not 100% tho

  • @JDMHero47
    @JDMHero47 Před 12 dny

    Anyone who knows anything about gas engines can tell you that DI in the chevy is for top-end horsepower at the cost of low-end torque. Coupled with lssp-detonation; I have no idea why anyone would be stupid enough to put that into a class 2/3 truck except for fuel economy reasons.
    I drove one with the 10spd... but there's a hemi in the garage.

  • @enjoytomorrowtoday
    @enjoytomorrowtoday Před 18 dny

    Hey JB, In your MPG & Acceleration chart, you put the wrong fuel cost while towing 10,000 miles for the Godzilla. It should read $4,961.77 for regular fuel. You have both the Ram and the Ford at $4,498.66

  • @chiefhobbyist3203
    @chiefhobbyist3203 Před 18 dny +1

    I was raised to not run the snot out of my vehicles, so I have some difficulty understanding the need to run up a grade towing a load and go the speed limit or however fast I can go pedal to the metal

  • @jeffworth3671
    @jeffworth3671 Před 18 dny

    Those 6.4” need to be broken in well 15-20,000 miles made a big difference, 89 octane will definitely help also, I have a 2021 Ram 2500 w/410 gears

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      The 21+ BGE 6.4 can not take advantage (make more power) of octane higher than 87. Read your owner's manual.

  • @gwendolynbrown9386
    @gwendolynbrown9386 Před 18 dny

    Great Information !!

  • @ethanlegler6403
    @ethanlegler6403 Před 17 dny

    I'd be curious if theres a major difference at speed between the 3.73 and 4.10 with this transmission. My instinct says no, that with this many gears it'd really only help off the line, but I think that'd be cool to test and see the results. Maybe lets you keep a gear higher?

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 14 hodinami

      The torque multiplication of the 4.10 (only 10% more than the 3.73) would only be an advantage off the line. At speed, in a 3.73, lock out a gear lower to achieve the same rpm as a 4.10

  • @michaelmartin2912
    @michaelmartin2912 Před 18 dny +1

    They also need to add a column shifted to that truck that rotary shift a sucks

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      I have had no issues with it.

  • @jamesdutton5439
    @jamesdutton5439 Před 18 dny

    But how does it compare to the 2024 Silverado L8T with the 10 speed you had?!

  • @hahaadventures4838
    @hahaadventures4838 Před 18 dny +5

    EPIC video! Ford got nothing on that Hemi!
    I tow with my 6.4 Hemi with 4.10 gears and it does great! Usually get 8-9 mpgs towing my RV!

    • @treeamigo8447
      @treeamigo8447 Před 15 dny +1

      4.10 is the only way to get that gas engine. Anything less will be disappointing.

    • @SteveShelton-hh4xt
      @SteveShelton-hh4xt Před 14 dny +1

      I disagree. JB Stated that air temp was 15 to 20 degrees cooler for this test vs the Ford and Chevy. If you want real world truck review stats go to TFL Truck here on CZcams and watch these trucks on the world's toughest towing test, "The Ike Gauntlet". You will see that the Godzilla absolutely destroyed the competition from both Ram and Chevy. We are talking about massive differences.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      ​@@treeamigo8447I had a 21 2500 6.4/3.73 towing a 10k TT, no complaints.

  • @عبدالرحمنسعدالغامدي

    Which is better and stronger in terms of towing and reliability, the Ram HD 2500 6.4 Hemi or the GM HD 2500 6.6, both of which are gas engines, because I want to buy one of them, but I am confused

  • @mjoliver457
    @mjoliver457 Před 18 dny +1

    if people are gonna complain about ram then don't buy the f brand simple as that

  • @406crusader4
    @406crusader4 Před 18 dny

    You were pushing harder on the gas pedal in Ram, than you did in the Ford.

  • @Wallst522
    @Wallst522 Před 18 dny

    Why am i always trying to guess how much weight you are towing?? What is in the trailer ?

  • @mjdgi1
    @mjdgi1 Před 18 dny +2

    CZcams keep unsubscribing me.. I hate that.

  • @JoshBryant-jd1fq
    @JoshBryant-jd1fq Před 17 dny

    Can you give it 70%more feaster

  • @robertabbott8541
    @robertabbott8541 Před 18 dny

    Warmer temperatures makes for less energy “ie” less horsepower and torque. The temps, even 10 degrees will make a big difference in performance. Just saying.

  • @jasonmekush5280
    @jasonmekush5280 Před 18 dny

    cross drilled and slotted rotors will help shed heat / gas on that decline.

    • @jeffs2809
      @jeffs2809 Před 18 dny

      Cross drilled rotors, esp on hd vehicles, make for excellent places for cracks to start. Dimpled maybe. Ultimately, brakes are going to get hot when used hard with a heavy load, no way around it. As long as they aren’t fading, dimples wouldn’t make much difference.

    • @huemongus3742
      @huemongus3742 Před 18 dny

      This is very much a misunderstood topic. There is a difference between race cars and trucks. Lots of sports cars are designed from the manufacturer to use these rotors. No truck, not one is designed from the manufacturer for cross drilled and slotted rotors. The reason is thermal capacity. More metal can absorb more heat. That is why when you put those rotors on trucks that tow especially in the mountains they crack. Over heated, over and over. Remember, cooling NEVER happens when you are on the brakes, only when you are off the brakes.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      The 8HP75 does an excellent job at grade shifting. Towed thru the Rockies, never had an issue.

  • @24DJT24
    @24DJT24 Před 18 dny

    the whole point of more gears is to use more gears

  • @shanelilman3780
    @shanelilman3780 Před 19 dny

    It could be worst the 8powerline has way lower gears, transmission could be way better then 6 &Aisin...

  • @RK-nr8qf
    @RK-nr8qf Před 17 dny +1

    A transmission that does a lot of hunting for the right gear is a nightmare while towing. If i were purchasing a 2500 series gas engined truck, it would definitely be a Gm for many reasons.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      The ZF 8HP75 is the best gas HD transmission on the market, period. I towed from Idaho to the Keys with a 21 6.4/3.73, over 20k miles towing a 10k TT. The ZF was excellent. I also owned a 20 F250 7.3/3.55; the 10R140 was complete garbage.

  • @erikswensen425
    @erikswensen425 Před 18 dny +2

    I've driven both the 6.4 hemi and 7.3 Godzilla and 7.3 has it hands down. 6.4 had no power and had worse gas mileage cause it was always working to the max. And I can't stand the rotary shift knob Ram has.

    • @Reshard834
      @Reshard834 Před 18 dny +2

      💯

    • @mjoliver457
      @mjoliver457 Před 18 dny

      yeah right your full of sh** I've had no issues with the Cummins and the hemi but people complain about the 6.4 because you can't take care of it then don't buy the f brand simple as that

    • @hahaadventures4838
      @hahaadventures4838 Před 18 dny +4

      I own both and my Ram accelerates quicker than my 7.3 empty and loaded. Also gets FAR BETTER MPGS!!! My 7.3 is ONLY better at holding a lower RPM while towing. The torque feel seems more powerful but when you actually see your speed, it’s NOT! I’ve run them side by side and the 6.4 walks the 7.3 by 1-2 truck lengths every time. That’s it 🤷‍♂️
      Maybe JB can run them side by side 🤷‍♂️

    • @tylermacconnell217
      @tylermacconnell217 Před 18 dny +1

      The 8 speed is superior to the 10 speed. Fuel economy is poor for both. I find throttle response better in the RAM.

    • @erikswensen425
      @erikswensen425 Před 18 dny

      @hahaadventures4838 I've driven both and the Godzilla outperforms it hands down. Towing the 6.4 got 7 to the 7.3s 9. I could watch the gas gauge drop on the 6.4 and instant read 1mpg climbing a 9% grade foot buried in 2nd gear doing 35. The 6.8 will be a good one to test results since no one has tested it towing

  • @JimByford
    @JimByford Před 7 dny

    have 35s on it then see what it does

  • @loganwilgus7225
    @loganwilgus7225 Před 19 dny +1

    I sold my 22 hemi and got the 24 L8T and the l8t will out pull the hemi because of the Allison 10 speed

    • @gnd111
      @gnd111 Před 18 dny

      ....Its not an Allison though...its a Chevy built Allison plated trans...

    • @loganwilgus7225
      @loganwilgus7225 Před 18 dny

      @@gnd111 very good point. You are correct

  • @harveyterr
    @harveyterr Před 18 dny +1

    Way to much rpm

  • @fishermin0076
    @fishermin0076 Před 18 dny

    Ok guys just got 2021 ram 2500 what gas you put in it

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      87, any higher octane doesn't do anything except lighten your wallet

  • @SteveShelton-hh4xt
    @SteveShelton-hh4xt Před 13 dny

    Too many variables to be completely accurate. If you want to see how these two trucks stack up in a more controlled apples to apples test, check out these links. Things to keep in mind is that the Godzilla is pulling 16,000lbs and the Ram is pulling 14,000lbs. The Ford Scored 94.5 Points vs. the Ram 69.5 Points. The Ike Gauntlet test is 8 miles @ 7% grade and 11,000 Feet elevation. Ford Pulled 16K in 8 Minutes 42 Seconds, Ram pulled 14K in 10 Minutes 29 Seconds, Chevy took over 11 Minutes. The Godzilla Ford is by far the superior truck as this isn't even close.
    czcams.com/video/4HiR9dxvGLY/video.htmlsi=Io0-EKuM2lt__oH_
    czcams.com/video/wBUNRegovis/video.htmlsi=pEz-U4zAdCafp5j9

  • @davidlefranc6240
    @davidlefranc6240 Před 18 dny

    Pretty sure the new straight six turbo engine would do better than this! 420hp and 469flbs of torque can't go wrong !

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      For how long??? Remember this 6.4 is tuned for fleet use too.

  • @stanr5645
    @stanr5645 Před 18 dny +2

    I i just sold my ram 3500 srw with 6.4. Picked up a new ford dually 3500 with the god zillion ,the 6.4 hemi out does the 7.3 gas in all aspects, not happy with the ford performance or mileage

    • @Reshard834
      @Reshard834 Před 18 dny +1

      Ford 7.3 gas out performs Ram 6.4 all day long

  • @RichardSevcech-hz3xu
    @RichardSevcech-hz3xu Před 19 dny +2

    What for lifter fell and cam and eat up rod and main brg

    • @mjoliver457
      @mjoliver457 Před 18 dny

      that's because your f lazy and complain about it I have the patience to maintain it at least dodge ram isn't found on road dead and then people say I'm complaining no I'm explaining

  • @fattie2550
    @fattie2550 Před 18 dny

    When is Ram getting a new gas engine? Word on the street is that Cummins is coming out with a gas engine.

  • @flyingwyoming5184
    @flyingwyoming5184 Před 17 dny

    I wouldn't touch a dodge...fiat. Horrible reliability/customer service.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal Před 4 dny +1

      But you’ll spend your time watching videos about them?

    • @flyingwyoming5184
      @flyingwyoming5184 Před 2 dny

      @@Icutmetal Oh don't worry I didn't watch it, I could tell it was misleading from the thumbnail, jumped to comments to see the hate haha!!

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 14 hodinami

      Dodge hasn't made trucks since 2008. Please catch up.

  • @user-wu8op5km2u
    @user-wu8op5km2u Před 3 dny

    If trump gets in, Stellantis is going to get hit hard with tariffs because these so called trucks that are made in Saltillo Mexico and not manufactured in the United States by American workers ,RAM is going to suffer the consequences because of the actions Stellantis 😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 14 hodinami

      'So called trucks'...they aren't trucks???

  • @98durangopack
    @98durangopack Před 18 dny

    The 7.3 Godzilla will walk the dog in that pos 6.4 Hemi. Let me know when that thing can maintain 60 mph up the Ike with 14k pounds and not 40 mph.

    • @M_dot202
      @M_dot202 Před 13 hodinami

      Previous 7.3 owner here, the 7.3 is an awesome HD truck engine but the 10R140 is garbage. The 6.4 is a very good HD truck engine with an awesome 8HP75. I traded my 20 7.3 for a 21 6.4/3.73 with zero regrets (46k miles).

  • @omahaomaha8694
    @omahaomaha8694 Před 10 dny

    Ram trucks all the way

  • @loganwilgus7225
    @loganwilgus7225 Před 19 dny +1

    I sold my 22 hemi and got the 24 L8T and the l8t will out pull the hemi because of the Allison 10 speed

    • @Reshard834
      @Reshard834 Před 18 dny +2

      You are wrong. 6m4 hemi will out perform the l8t all day. And Ford 7.3 gas will out pull and out perform the hemiband l8t

    • @loganwilgus7225
      @loganwilgus7225 Před 18 dny

      @@Reshard834 we can agree to disagree. I have owned all 3. I would still have the 7.3 Godzilla if it would have not got totaled. The Godzilla pulled the best, but both loaded and unloaded it got the worst fuel mileage. The 6.4 hemi had better low end torque IMO then the l8t. But the l8t seems to hold speed better then the hemi but wind and weather may be a factor. I know same trailer but the hemi could have had head wind. And I know you can’t compare diesel to gas, but the 24 HO power stroke is wicked at pulling. Just got back from the lake and my uncle let me borrow his PS