I remember the Gorta boxes we used to get in school to fill up with money for starving children around the world.I remember even as a 4yr old being acutely aware of starvation, hunger & it’s effects because I heard my parents etc talk about the great famine in Ireland.Also poverty was pervasive growing up in Ireland 60/70’s you never knew where your next meal was coming from.I often think maybe the was the impetus that spurred Bob Geldof on when he saw the horrors of the famine in Africa.It took an Irishman to move the world to save millions from starvation.
He was successful in galvanising the world in their efforts to help, to bring awareness of famine & hunger & he did help raise millions.He cannot be help responsible for the corruption in African states & organisations that have little care for human suffering.
I remember seeing Teresa May on the TV laying out why she would not use water cannons in the London Riots of 2011 her long list of potential injuries caused by using said methods of control were abhorrent to her.However there use in Northern Ireland wasn’t !! Some things never change sadly.
The Choctaw Tribe here in the US collected and sent money to Ireland during the famine, they themselves having suffered the indignity of being forcefully removed from their own lands. I’m ashamed of the US government for the way they’ve treated the natives here. They deserve far better.
This should be on every English history lesson, when the Brits prognosticate about themselves and their so called fair play, their Inglorious Empire and Lionise Churchill, who did the same thing in the Punjab/India
I'm from Ireland and live in Australia.. a multicultural environment, and over the years when asked about this famine... people are shocked to hear that there was plenty of food in Ireland at this time.. Ive likened it to genocide too... but my experience has thought me...there are some wonderful people in England too...they are shocked to hear this and are apologetic... It was a politician who decided our fate...not the every day peoples... Some English people objected to this abhorrent situation. The first Americans did donate bags of corn to us when they heard of our plight.. I'll never forget this kindness and little known fact. Yes...the England of old were colonisers..but at some point in history so we're the Dutch.... the Spanish..the Portuguese..and Belgium..but these were all of there times. Oh the French too...(they reached Australia I think?🤔) I see the results of this, trickle throughout the countrys they colonised... Not always pleasant.. for example; one just has to look at the current situation for the decendents of African slaves in the US today alone.. (BLM) and the first Australians too. And look what India had to endure too... Yes.. we must learn from the past. Not repeat it...no one should go hungry today...but sadly it still happens...it drives me mad!🤦🤪 I donate to where ever there is hunger... I understood Bob Geldoffs anger completely!.... Sooo...thanks for the video ...😄... I guess this was laying heavily on my mind....😄 more than I realised 😄
Thank you for comments Lillian and we totally agree. This was not the fault of the British people; it was the fault of the British government by putting money before people.
The English had the longest reign as colonisers, they over saw an empire least we forget that.In the UK today you will still find discrimination, racism & abuse towards Irish people from the ordinary British person & on every level of British society also.British people still believe “paddy's are stupid” & are not shy in telling you!!In fact I was called “a stupid paddy bitch” by an Afro Caribbean co worker, when I pointed out that was racist he laughed uncontrollably & all his black co workers surrounded me laughing & jeering, saying everyone knows Irish people are stupid, they where of the opinion I was soooo stupid I didn’t even know how stupid you Irish are.I gave them a lesson in Irish history they were visibly shocked & I defied their reasoning that you can only be racist to black people.Housing, employment, education I could go on, think it’s find to discriminate again the Irish In the UK because they are never challenged in any meaningful way on their deeply entrenched centuries old view of Irish people.I remember one appalling incident Jim Davidson made a vile racist Irish Joke during a Royal Performance just as Pierce Brosnan walked out on stage, I wonder was the royal box amused because the audience laughed loudly!!
@@LizRoe-ky4hr ...exactly Liz..my father came out from Ireland in 1956....and was greeted with..no dogs..no Abi’s..no Irish...outsider pubs.And in the newspapers...N.I.N.A. )no Irish need apply...there were mean spirited “Irish Jokes” on tv,current affairs programs,all through..the 70’s..80’s..90’s...and then with the advent of “political correctness”...the muttering went underground ...toward..Native Australia particularly...outside pubs..NO ABOS. ( no offence to Native Australians,just using the historical language).
There is nothing great about Britain, the arrogant attitude still exists. I was born in England but I'm not proud of that. Native Americans, Australian Aboriginal people were decimated by British invasions as was India. My heart belongs to Ireland Eire. This history should be taught in schools. The People's History, not Kings and Queens.
As an Irish American I can say that the great hunger is not mentioned in our school text books. My grandmother's both said it's because "Irish need not apply" which was an embarrassment to the overwhelming Americans with Irish Heritage.
I asked my US history teacher why very little was mentioned about the Famine. He said because so many Students were of IRish Heritage and it was an embarrassment ie "Irish need not apply". My Irish grandparents agreed and said never will they speak of the atrocities they endured.
Breaks my heart when I think of what my ancestors went through.. Cold Trevelyan and his government, hopefully they had to answer to St. Peter for their heartlessness.. 🙄
@J TThe Ottoman Sultan Abdul Madjd Khan sent £1,000 on Wednesday, March 31, 1847. May 10 to May 14, 1847, recorded in both the Drogheda Argus and the Conservative newspapers, three ships arrived from the Balkans, two of which (The Porcupine and The Ann) arrived from the Ottoman Port of Thessalonica, which today is known as Salonika, the third ship (The Alita) arrived at the same time from the port of Stettin. All were carrying wheat and Indian corn. Bit of a coincidence no?
@J T You've changed your tune pretty quick from "it didn't happen" to "yeah but, did they have to pay?" Who knows. The point is that it was desperately needed food heading into Ireland not food being exported at gunpoint. Good way to make an alliance, helping the people your future ally is trying to ethnically cleanse because it's "Gods will"
@J TWhere is your evidence it was paid for by the British government? You were denying it even happened a few posts ago, now you are claiming it was sent by Britain! That would also contradict recorded history given the fall of the Peel government in 1846 and the Whigs ending the policy of importing indian corn to Ireland, instead leaving it to "market forces" (ie. turning Irish grain into alcohol and exporting it to England where profit could be made, 1.7m gallons in 1847) And then you have to ask why Drogheda? The reports were that the ships we're not allowed dock at the major ports in Cork or Dublin. Drogheda being a smaller port up the coast the it makes sense if they were denied entry previously. It's a matter of record that the Ottoman Turks sent financial aid and 3 ships of food to Ireland. End of story. I couldn't care less what your view on it is.
So true, they wanted to send 10,000 coin in aid, but we're told they would insult the queen who only gave a petty 2000, coin. So the ottomans sent 2000,coin. But they secretly fill 3 large ships with food and sent them to Ireland. They had to doge the queen ships, stopping aid going in to Ireland. That why I call it a genocide by the English on the Irish under cover of famine
Don't forgot famine took protestants too...people of briish descent Irish rejected.. Then prior to partation some of those population losses were 40 thousand ethnically cleansed protestants. Then civil war against Irish by Irish. All poor felt impact of famine. Like Africa women continued to get pregnant after maybe 5th child. In middle of famine. Today ppl fail to see signs of shortages. Fail to jail mps and leaders entrusted to care for it's population. Despite these shipments out of Ireland why were Wales. Scotland. England and all of Europe having a famine.??? We can't alter the past BUT WE HAVE FAILED TO CLOSE THE POVERTY GAP AND CHALLENGE WRONG DOING OF ANY LEADER..
Shameful managers Europe n England also had working class poor famine Welsh man trevellan Irish were British as were Scots. Welsh. England. In famine.. Families there smaller, Ireland like famine Africa continued to have too many kids when no food. It was hardship for all poor then. Rich versus poor
Als Zeichentrick- Doku sieht das schick aus - Mickey Maus und Goofy müssen noch eingearbeitet werden ! - - - Wooooo sind Originalbilder und Zeichnungen ...
You have NO IDEA of the truth. It wasn't A Famine! There was plenty of food and stock, but Trevelyan wouldn't leave it here for the starving.. If you know that people are starving to death because of YOUR policies, but you don't change those policies, and let essential food stocks be exported for profit - what else do you call it? Enforced starvation by a colonial power hmmm, let's see? 🤔
famine can be a method of genocide; this is an example of it; it killed 5,000,000 people; for the record; the infamous rwandan genocide of 1994 killed only. 600,000.
I, now, live in Ireland and I love these fine people. I truly love them.
I assume that my Irish ancestors were directly affected by this. Beyond criminal.
mine were for sure; I know my ancestors came to America as potato famine refugees.
I remember the Gorta boxes we used to get in school to fill up with money for starving children around the world.I remember even as a 4yr old being acutely aware of starvation, hunger & it’s effects because I heard my parents etc talk about the great famine in Ireland.Also poverty was pervasive growing up in Ireland 60/70’s you never knew where your next meal was coming from.I often think maybe the was the impetus that spurred Bob Geldof on when he saw the horrors of the famine in Africa.It took an Irishman to move the world to save millions from starvation.
unfortunately he was not successful as much if the money ended up in wrong hands
He was successful in galvanising the world in their efforts to help, to bring awareness of famine & hunger & he did help raise millions.He cannot be help responsible for the corruption in African states & organisations that have little care for human suffering.
I remember seeing Teresa May on the TV laying out why she would not use water cannons in the London Riots of 2011 her long list of potential injuries caused by using said methods of control were abhorrent to her.However there use in Northern Ireland wasn’t !! Some things never change sadly.
they wouldn't use plastic or rubber or live bullets on their own rioters either. 💚
The Choctaw Tribe here in the US collected and sent money to Ireland during the famine, they themselves having suffered the indignity of being forcefully removed from their own lands. I’m ashamed of the US government for the way they’ve treated the natives here. They deserve far better.
There is a magnificent sculpture in Midleton in county Cork to mark that very contribution from the Choctaw
AS DID MANY POVERTY STRIKEN AMERICANS... SUCH AS THE MILL WORKES OF LOWELL, MASSACHUSETTS WHO NEVER GET MENTIONS.
@@mlchell if those men sent their hard earned money back to Ireland then they deserve immense respect.!! Can you fill us in about their contribution?
Thank you for telling this story.
No problem Eddie. Glad you liked it.
Now that clip should be shown in all schools to show exactly why countries don't like us. Greed and arrogance beyond belief.
“They tried to bury us, but they didn’t know we were seeds” 🇮🇪
This should be on every English history lesson, when the Brits prognosticate about themselves and their so called fair play, their Inglorious Empire and Lionise Churchill, who did the same thing in the Punjab/India
did the same thing in india dozens of times even; with a combined death toll of over 400,000,000
I'm from Ireland and live in Australia.. a multicultural environment, and over the years when asked about this famine... people are shocked to hear that there was plenty of food in Ireland at this time.. Ive likened it to genocide too... but my experience has thought me...there are some wonderful people in England too...they are shocked to hear this and are apologetic... It was a politician who decided our fate...not the every day peoples... Some English people objected to this abhorrent situation. The first Americans did donate bags of corn to us when they heard of our plight.. I'll never forget this kindness and little known fact. Yes...the England of old were colonisers..but at some point in history so we're the Dutch.... the Spanish..the Portuguese..and Belgium..but these were all of there times. Oh the French too...(they reached Australia I think?🤔) I see the results of this, trickle throughout the countrys they colonised... Not always pleasant.. for example; one just has to look at the current situation for the decendents of African slaves in the US today alone.. (BLM) and the first Australians too. And look what India had to endure too... Yes.. we must learn from the past. Not repeat it...no one should go hungry today...but sadly it still happens...it drives me mad!🤦🤪 I donate to where ever there is hunger... I understood Bob Geldoffs anger completely!.... Sooo...thanks for the video ...😄... I guess this was laying heavily on my mind....😄 more than I realised 😄
Thank you for comments Lillian and we totally agree. This was not the fault of the British people; it was the fault of the British government by putting money before people.
The English had the longest reign as colonisers, they over saw an empire least we forget that.In the UK today you will still find discrimination, racism
& abuse towards Irish people from the ordinary British person & on every level of British society also.British people still believe “paddy's are stupid” & are not shy in telling you!!In fact I was called “a stupid paddy bitch” by an Afro Caribbean co worker, when I pointed out that was racist he laughed uncontrollably & all his black co workers surrounded me laughing & jeering, saying everyone knows Irish people are stupid, they where of the opinion I was soooo stupid I didn’t even know how stupid you Irish are.I gave them a lesson in Irish history they were visibly shocked & I defied their reasoning that you can only be racist to black people.Housing, employment, education I could go on, think it’s find to discriminate again the Irish In the UK because they are never challenged in any meaningful way on their deeply entrenched centuries old view of Irish people.I remember one appalling incident Jim Davidson made a vile racist Irish Joke during a Royal Performance just as Pierce Brosnan walked out on stage, I wonder was the royal box amused because the audience laughed loudly!!
i sometimes wonder when we sing the fields of athenry so joyfully we remember the actual lyrics
@@annedonnellan4126 hi Anne... Its a sad song...
@@LizRoe-ky4hr ...exactly Liz..my father came out from Ireland in 1956....and was greeted with..no dogs..no Abi’s..no Irish...outsider pubs.And in the newspapers...N.I.N.A. )no Irish need apply...there were mean spirited “Irish Jokes” on tv,current affairs programs,all through..the 70’s..80’s..90’s...and then with the advent of “political correctness”...the muttering went underground ...toward..Native Australia particularly...outside pubs..NO ABOS. ( no offence to Native Australians,just using the historical language).
There is nothing great about Britain, the arrogant attitude still exists. I was born in England but I'm not proud of that. Native Americans, Australian Aboriginal people were decimated by British invasions as was India. My heart belongs to Ireland Eire. This history should be taught in schools. The People's History, not Kings and Queens.
To be fair the vast majority of british are good working class people. It's the hierarchy that is filth. From a Irish man 🇮🇪
As an Irish American I can say that the great hunger is not mentioned in our school text books. My grandmother's both said it's because "Irish need not apply" which was an embarrassment to the overwhelming Americans with Irish Heritage.
@@AMCL5 I suggest you talk to other British. They wouldn't take you too kindly, but, the Irish are a peaceful and forgiving bunch.
Wow, there are no words to describe this atrocity.......government control while the throw their fine balls and gorge.......thank you......
It was outrageous what the British government did to Irish
Nobody have caused as much famines around the world as the British Empire.
I asked my US history teacher why very little was mentioned about the Famine. He said because so many Students were of IRish Heritage and it was an embarrassment ie "Irish need not apply". My Irish grandparents agreed and said never will they speak of the atrocities they endured.
Thank for telling this I’m very grateful 🙏🏽
Just in case anyone wondered why Ireland fought so long against the English for independence! Now you know!
Ethnic starvation
Breaks my heart when I think of what my ancestors went through.. Cold Trevelyan and his government, hopefully they had to answer to St. Peter for their heartlessness.. 🙄
would it be exaggerated to call the irish famine "holodomor" ? a term used to describe the intentional starving done by Stalin.
no; there was less evidence of intent behind what stalin did then there was behind this awfullness.
This was done to the Bangladeshi, The Congo, and part of this new. Covid plan.
He not say anything about Ottoman empire help to irland people. its weird ottoman Turkish send food + gold to irland ar famine times.
@J T Even your prime minister thanked for it. at Turkey trip.
@J T they landed in Drogheda, yes they sent help
@J TThe Ottoman Sultan Abdul Madjd Khan sent £1,000 on Wednesday, March 31, 1847.
May 10 to May 14, 1847, recorded in both the Drogheda Argus and the Conservative newspapers, three ships arrived from the Balkans, two of which (The Porcupine and The Ann) arrived from the Ottoman Port of Thessalonica, which today is known as Salonika, the third ship (The Alita) arrived at the same time from the port of Stettin. All were carrying wheat and Indian corn. Bit of a coincidence no?
@J T You've changed your tune pretty quick from "it didn't happen" to "yeah but, did they have to pay?"
Who knows. The point is that it was desperately needed food heading into Ireland not food being exported at gunpoint.
Good way to make an alliance, helping the people your future ally is trying to ethnically cleanse because it's "Gods will"
@J TWhere is your evidence it was paid for by the British government? You were denying it even happened a few posts ago, now you are claiming it was sent by Britain!
That would also contradict recorded history given the fall of the Peel government in 1846 and the Whigs ending the policy of importing indian corn to Ireland, instead leaving it to "market forces" (ie. turning Irish grain into alcohol and exporting it to England where profit could be made, 1.7m gallons in 1847)
And then you have to ask why Drogheda? The reports were that the ships we're not allowed dock at the major ports in Cork or Dublin. Drogheda being a smaller port up the coast the it makes sense if they were denied entry previously.
It's a matter of record that the Ottoman Turks sent financial aid and 3 ships of food to Ireland. End of story. I couldn't care less what your view on it is.
And a big thank you to the ottoman empire
So true, they wanted to send 10,000 coin in aid, but we're told they would insult the queen who only gave a petty 2000, coin. So the ottomans sent 2000,coin. But they secretly fill 3 large ships with food and sent them to Ireland. They had to doge the queen ships, stopping aid going in to Ireland. That why I call it a genocide by the English on the Irish under cover of famine
Don't forgot famine took protestants too...people of briish descent Irish rejected.. Then prior to partation some of those population losses were 40 thousand ethnically cleansed protestants. Then civil war against Irish by Irish. All poor felt impact of famine. Like Africa women continued to get pregnant after maybe 5th child. In middle of famine. Today ppl fail to see signs of shortages. Fail to jail mps and leaders entrusted to care for it's population. Despite these shipments out of Ireland why were Wales. Scotland. England and all of Europe having a famine.??? We can't alter the past BUT WE HAVE FAILED TO CLOSE THE POVERTY GAP AND CHALLENGE WRONG DOING OF ANY LEADER..
Come out the dead of skibereen, come down to Cork to see the Queen.
They were daft expecting the starving people to go to see the Queen!
"Famine"
Shameful managers
Europe n England also had working class poor famine
Welsh man trevellan
Irish were British as were Scots. Welsh. England. In famine.. Families there smaller, Ireland like famine Africa continued to have too many kids when no food. It was hardship for all poor then. Rich versus poor
Als Zeichentrick- Doku sieht das schick aus - Mickey Maus und Goofy müssen noch eingearbeitet werden ! - - - Wooooo sind Originalbilder und Zeichnungen ...
There's a difference between famine and genocide just sayin
You have NO IDEA of the truth. It wasn't A Famine! There was plenty of food and stock, but Trevelyan wouldn't leave it here for the starving.. If you know that people are starving to death because of YOUR policies, but you don't change those policies, and let essential food stocks be exported for profit - what else do you call it? Enforced starvation by a colonial power hmmm, let's see? 🤔
@@ME24689
I totally agree that was a genocide. Famine was the weapon.
famines are not accidental. Most are due to land grabs and opposition
famine can be a method of genocide; this is an example of it; it killed 5,000,000 people; for the record; the infamous rwandan genocide of 1994 killed only. 600,000.
Karma will come