Discussing 2024 Worlds: Chatting with Maya Bagriantseva
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Maya Bagriantseva attended the 2024 World Figure Skating Championships and chatted with all of the major skaters. I caught up with her to get her perspective on the competition.
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Yay, Maya again! Thank you for inviting her -- a great recap, especially considering that Maya was there in person. Your interviews with members of the media were some of my favourite on the channel this year.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love Maya. She is such a delight every time she graces our screen. Thank you all for this.
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Yes, she is our favorite Dave! Thank you so much for inviting her and taking the time to collaborate with her. You two, could host some kind of morning show! And thand for all of your hard work covering the worlds.
Our pleasure!
Hi from Germany! Thanks so much for the insights on the Minerva/Nikita-team - I didn't read any of this in the German media. It's obvious that Maya doesn't just do her job as a journalist, she takes a real interest in the people she interviews and writes about. That makes such a great difference.
I love Maya!!!! She’s my favorite guest!
Thank you. For both recaps. I hope you keep doing you, whatever and whenever you like! I appreciate it.
Glad you like them!
Where is the other recap, can’t find it on the channel….
@@Patrick.V. It's been moved to Patreon.
@@Patrick.V. He took it down after just a couple of days. It was over two hours long with Jonathan and was better than this one.
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Wow, two Worlds uploads? Thanks for the hard work Dave! Always enjoy hearing your thoughts on fs.
Glad you like them!
Woke up to this fantastic discussion. Maya is a wonderful guest as always - thank you for two in depth dives into World’s - reallly appreciate what you do.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Timestamps… to be continued
Pairs
2:32 Deanna Stellato’s aesthetic
4:38 Stellato/Deschamps
8:55 Miura/Kihara
9:42 is Russia coming back?
15:21 Chinese Pairs, Peng/Wang
16:38 Hase/Volodin
22:31 georgian fed
Men
23:30 Nika Edgaze/Tutberidze treating men and women differently
25:23 Morisi Kvitelashvili
26:15 Team event (28:30 Guignard/Fabbri)
Dance
29:41 Papadakis/Cizeron(31:20 Gilles/Poirier, 31:47 Chock/Bates)
33:17 Hubbell/Diaz’s newborn(Briefly mentioning Carreira/Ponomarenko)
33:30 Smart/dieck
41:26 Lajoie/Lagha
43:00 TAT’s interview/problems of translating interviews
45:00 dave and maya with p.hersh
49:05 Chock/Bates
52:45 Ice dance being stacked
53:49 Fear/Gibson
Back to Mens
55:09 Kagiyama
Thank you.
Thank you! someone also commented 55:09 Yuma Kagiyama
I love Maya! She has such interesting perspective, insights and opinions. And I like that she’s so nice.
Maya is the best Russian personality out there. So down to earth and kind.
She is Latvian
Lovely discussion! Maya is a significant journalist beyond just figure skating, one whom we will need when the time of reconstruction comes, as it will one day.
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Regardless of skating skills, quality of programs, and technical content, I was just glad to see several passionate performances and clean performances. Vasiljev, Sao Him Fa, Malinin, Britschgi, Carillo, and Kagiyama were all amazing to watch. Repond, Levito, and Sakamoto were feeling themselves. The quality of dance was excellent, and though the skill isn't as obviously high as PapaCiz or Virtue and Moir, the top six were a pleasure to watch. The last two worlds had such a cloud over them and everyone seemed to hate what they were doing, it's a joy to see skaters PER- FORM-ING again.
Thank you, Dave, for giving her so much room in the conversation, it was a real treat.
Yay Maya! So happy to see her talking worlds! Thank you for having her on again.
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Enjoy your interviews with Maya so much!! She has great insights and perspectives on the sport.
Glad you like them!
Bottom line, like it or not, if Ilia lands all his jumps, Yuma and Shoma will always be chasing 2nd. Ilia's components, while not as polished (yet) as Yuma or Shoma's, are acceptable enough to give him the win every single time. Even without the quad axel, Ilia still would have won.
Yes, like Nathan Chen who only lost two competitions in the last five years of his career and having only one loss in the last four years with three undefeated seasons, Ilia will also be unbeatable. Even with a missed jump, Ilia's base value will be so high none of the others will be able to win (like Nathan's 2021 Worlds, missed the 4lutz in the SP and still won by 32 points). Ilia will have to make several major mistakes for anyone else to get close to winning. As long as he remains consistent with the jumps, he's going to dominate his era just like Nathan did. Ilia won this Worlds by 24 points. He could have missed a quad or even left one out all together for a 5-quad LP and still won by 12 points. Actually, his GOE on some of the jumps should have been even higher like his quad Salchow (just +2.91) which means he should have had an even larger margin of victory.
Dave, you and Maya have the ability to make any bad days better. I enjoyed watching Worlds, but unlike 15-20 years ago, I couldn’t justify the spending cost. Thank you for all you do.
Great interview! I am loyal to you too, Dave! Moment of the 2024 worlds: Ilia's and Deanna's reactions in the kiss & cry.
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Very relevant to bring Maya; not only does she always bring highly qualified analysis, but she was present at the Bell Centre and could witness the event. Aspects like speed and flow are not always the same on TV; the same is valid for the atmosphere and the impact of the skating.
I'm so glad to see you have finally come around as to LaLa. I remember how disappointed I was last year when I was bragging about them to everyone, especially their White Crow program, and then I heard you talk about them and about something he does with his leg, etc. Earlier this year, you even mentioned that the style of the FD was all wrong for them. But I always loved them. so I'm glad you have come around.
It was a great performance. They have improved. I believe they can improve much more with a lot of ballet work off ice.
I also absolutely ADORE LaLa!
Great interview. I think Maya's mastery with English is better than 99% of Americans. Very intelligent and always appreciate her nuanced point of view, even though I don't totally agree with everything she feels (but I am 98% in agreement or non-disagreement with her views).
As for Amber, I thought she was working with a sports psychologist? I think it's all entirely mental. It's like she goes into flight mode for seemingly no good reason other than demons and voices that self sabotage. Entirely different skater, but Carolina Kostner was able to turn around her competition outcomes and presumably her competitive approach. Hopefully she can build a future emulating Carolina.
Maya is the best.
Thanks Dave, this was fun. And Maya is delightful!
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I love Maya’s insights-thank you for having her on!
I love how feisty Maya is. Good point from her "the [ice dance] programs weren't bad. they were good!" vs Dave's "they're good for the bronze medal". LOLzzzz.
She’s the best. I love debating with intense personalities.
Ilya was my biggest moment :cause I actually thought he would do half&half 😂,no way I expected him to give everyone full Blow yet 😂!It was Revolutionary!
Agree with Maya about having Amber Glenn performing her 3A in the short program, the double-up on 2A combos in the free skate. Amber gets too worked-up, causing fear of success to overtake her.
Love Maya. She disagrees with Dave. It's so funny.
Ilya doesn't need a new choreophrager. He has had the best. Jason brown. And now it's rumored to be Guillaume. Ilya needs to get back to the basics of skating skills.
Queen Maya is back! Yesssss 🥳👸🏻
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Great to see Maya. Thanks for the discussion.
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Amber is the Roman Sadovsky of USA
Thanks for the great insight on Minerva and Nikita ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TheSkatingLesson yes, great episode🥰
No one messes with Maya, love her! lol
Amazing. Your recaps/discussions with Maya are the best. Love a little sparring and spirited discussion.
Not sure which is more fun, Maya’s commentary or Dave’s accent / intonation when he’s talking to her!
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Thank you for finding some joy in the mess that is skating. I love the discussions between you and Maya.
Favorite guest indeed 👌
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Love Maya!
Aliona for US pairs!? Yes yes!
Was amazing to see Isabeau skate so cleanly and confidently and take that well deserved Silver. Ilia is a phenomenon, long may he reign 🤴
So glad you have Maya back!!!
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Totally agree with Maya that there will be a lot of movement of skaters, going to different countries to represent in preparation of the 2026 Milan Olympics.
Based on a rough and Quick Look at the results this year, a team competition final results would probably be 1) USA, 2) JPN, and 3) CAN. After that it is ITA, KOR, and GEO. I did take a little liberty because KOR had no pairs team.
catching up to this so late as always, but I really like Maya, she is so insightful and she's not biased. It's good to hear from someone "
"I learned about Billie Eilish from Khrustalny".
You and me both Dave 😂❤
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I love Maya on the show, thank you!
Dave looks STUNNING in the black turtleneck and Maya is just gorgeous.
Sorry Dave I am on team Adam he stole my heart at the 2022 Olympics. I alyways watch the full competetion I was glad I caught Adam's program. The men have been prority for me. I was dissapointed with dance event, I always look foward to that but it was boring this season.
My top moments were Deniss Vasiljevs Both programs were awasome to watch.
Lukas Britschgi both programs were great
Yuma Was so happy to see both programs. I was sad abouth the fall but the skate was was built so well to music. I did not like his skating before Caralonia refinined his edges and components.
Of coures th winner of my biggest moment was Adam's incredible skate at the begining of the competetion. A lot of my other podcasters missed it live because it was so early. He just put it all out there and did a back flip to cap off his season. He even got reactionout of Benoirt. Then he waited in his first place chair for almost three hours, seeing the two spots move like it normally does. then Shoma skates. Once Shoma's scores come back Adam had to put his costume back on. I do not think it fully hit until he went back that he was getting a medal. Then at the cermoney, I am sure there were fan there who saw his program at the very beginning of the day. The crowd was absoulty nuts when he came to accept his medal. it was a great competetion I am glad the men didn't disappoint.
The fantastic and erudite Maya! Thank you ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it!
Dave's opinions on ID are interesting cause what is he gonna think after the Olympics when it's like Lajoie/Lagha vs Fear/Gibson for the world title. Enjoy this while you can. Papadakis/Cizeron are not the end all be all...
I think both will have improved a ton by then.
Ok so my random thought on this season's ice dance:
1) Imo, the biggest winners this season were Lajoie/Lagha as they've clearly positioned themselves right behind the British, displacing fb/s (deservedly so, they had my favourite fd of this season)
2) Everyone seems quite over Chock and Bates as world champions, including Chock and Bates themselves
3) I would not underestimate Barbara Fusar Poli for next 2 seasons, she's building her own collection of ice dance teams from across Europe to counter IAM.
4) This years 80's rd was a bigger debacle (for me) than the Olympic year's street dance.
5) I'm still somewhat grieving over the Kaganposkaia/Angelopol split, RIP to that potential (so interesting how it's playing out given Krylova's own split with Angelopol's Uncle and how that played out).
Also I saw recently that Liza Shanaeva also split with her partner, I'm sure somewhere out there Annabelle Morozov is cackling in vindication lol
Hard disagree on #2. But again, all is subjective, especially if you're mourning an ex newbie pair who was never meant to be. For me, K/A gave nothing but rehearsed sad eyebrows and overall coldness.
@@Bambi469 Totally get your diagreement on 2, that was just my read on the overall vibe, my interpretation is very much subjective. As for the k/a nostalgia, that was more about their overall potential to stir things up in the ice dance scene with the programs Krylova gave them last year (notwithstanding the ban obviously)
totally agree on the Chock and Bates. They did not deserve to win this year and they won via help from the judges IMO. I'm hoping they decide to retire. It's time. They have nothing new to bring to the sport. Also the ISU needs to drop the dance party thing and figure out something else.
Chock & Bates have a phenomenal FD this year though so I'm surprised where you got the feeling that they're over themselves ..? They definitely deserve all their success.
Not a single word about Chaeyeon 😢
Happy to see another recap up! I'm sorry you can't be 100% yourself on your own CZcams channel. It's not like you don't invite discourse and healthy discussion around touchy issues in the sport. Some people just can't take critical thinking or analysis and what to do if they disagree. Thank you to you and Jonathan and of course all your guests!
What was the big drama with the original video? I saw it and some of the first comments. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary.
I can’t speak for what the tipping point was for Dave, but some of the comments were incredibly rude and personal. I am old enough to be Dave’s mom, and my momma bear came out a bit reading them.
Thinking Isabeau might be good with some broadway thing
Oh no! Your previous Worlds recap with Johnathan is gone before I managed to finish it 😢
It has been moved to Patreon. I will be moving This and That there
My favorite guest also 😍
Thank you Dave! Maya brings the joy!
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Hey Dave, I can't find the video of you breaking down the events of the world championships with Jonathan. Is it still up or has it been taken down?
He moved it to Patreon.
@@peteregan7864 oh no, that's unfortunate. I was so eager to listen to the full thing. People really need to stop taking offense so easily to other people's opinions sigh...
@@NG-ue4th I watched the video and left some messages. I saw some negative feedback, but not all of them are negative. I'd say the half of the people were just fine with the content of the video. After all, it is Dave's decision to have made that video private. Not the other way around. We can have and express different opinions. It was not like anyone was demanding Dave to take that video down.
Dave, what happened to the recap w you and Jonathan? Had it downloaded and ready to listen to this morning and it’s gone. 😢
It is on Patreon. I will be moving more content there.
I know. It was better than this interview.
Hi Dave. What happened to the original world recap video? I was halfway through it!
It was moved to Patreon.
@@cupcaketoo why?
@@cupcaketoo also thank you for the reply
@@Jack-in-the-box12 because it had quite a lot of negative opinions on what was generally perceived as a great world championships, so quite a lot of the comments were upset at his negativity so it got moved elsewhere.
@@arthurtheaardvark13 oh tea
Wonderful discussion
Alexander König trained the Georgian pairs for some time. He said that you just could not work with that Georgian mother! Impossible with that level of arrogance
Come skate Pairs for the USA, Kosto, we'll treat you like The Queen that you are! ❤️
BTW, Maya's hair looks perfect! Who's hair looks that good in a hotel? 😁
Maya is amazing! She understands that figure skating is an aesthetic sport.
This was my favorite worlds in forever!!!!! So many stories. Dave!? Jaded much. Goodness me
Nikita Volodin is soooo hot
I wonder why the original Worlds 2024 review video with Jonathan was taken down after just a couple of days. I found it more informative than this one.
It is on Patreon. I’m moving to a hybrid model.
Maya 🥹🩵
oops...Someone "on the other side" so to speak. I don't miss the Russians much, maybe just Mishina and Galliamov because they were fun to watch
Thanks for your video Dave, question do you know that Artem & Leah have been marry for a year and now they have their wedding party?? or are they just getting marry now??
They have been married.
@@TheSkatingLesson Omgg I just saw their wedding photos and I was shock
They were married a year ago?? I just saw engagement photos on Instagram.
What should we do if we loved, and want to re-watch, the worlds 2024 recap Dave and Jonathan did?
Join Patreon
Maia is so intelligent and couldn’t care less about salacious gossip.
Salacious gossip is about all that dave can offer and it’s actually what he likes about figure skating. I love when she said “I’m a fan of figure skating”. Embarrassing that she had to continually check him about things. Just awful.
He speaking with an extremely brilliant journalist and the most pressing thing that he wanted to ask her is if she saw Eteri’s expression when her students get it into the boards??? That’s what his brain told him to ask this woman?
Tamara Mina said it’s the best. He’s not a very smart boy. What I love about her is that she said it to his face on an interview
Maya is the best. She is very intellegent and not as one minded as David.
Maya is awesome.
There is no forgiving Eteri. We all want success, money, and nice things. But her lynchpin position of doping, abuse, allowing horrible choreography by Gleikhengauz, probable wheeling and dealing with judges, and probable money laundering just completely negates any fair competition in figure skating. I will give her credit for not jumping on the Putin bandwagon with the invasion of Ukraine though.
Alyssa vs. Isabeau -who can have the most tortured unwieldy jumping technique??
where is the first uploaded video. david was so funny then
It is on Patreon. I’m not dealing with that level of headache for free any longer.
@@TheSkatingLesson That review was better than this one. I find it interesting that you started that Worlds review video with Jonathan rightly criticizing the commentators who coddle skaters in their commentary and lack real constructive criticism in favor of "toxic positivity" that doesn't benefit the skaters or viewers. That was perfectly said as it's a real problem in skating coverage. Even so, it seems a bit ironic that you've now moved the video to pay-only for fear of criticism from viewers commenting on it. At least that's what it sounds like. Let freedom of speech ring. You don't have to agree with or even read any of those comments.
@@L1623VP I am moving to a hybrid model. The response to the video gave me perspective. The amount of headache is not worth the CZcams ad revenue. I am moving to a model that our content creators have done for the last 1-2 years and I don't feel badly about it. If you want to see it, you can pay the $3 per month.
well i do understand it, because you are like a lot of energy into this@@TheSkatingLesson
If Worlds is in Boston, they should Boston songs like New Kids On the Block stuff or maybe some songs about Pilgrims. OR maybe Pilgrim themed programs.
I was expecting to hear more Canadian music skating programs like Alanis Morrisette or Michael Buble.
I know that some countries use the country of their Worlds or Olympics.
Мая, пригласите Дейва на «чистый хвост». Это будет супер колаб.
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Надо подумать :)
@@Maya_skating подумайте, Паша с Ваней против Дейва, будет очень интересно.
The men's was a legitimate World's competition. Unfortunately when Ilya is competing, I'm always rooting for the silver medalist. Yuma Kagiyama had the best skate for me personally. I think it's time to make peace with ilyas skating style. Perhaps the fault lies with the judges for their inflation of scores for skating skills.
Ilia's PCS weren't inflated. In fact, Kagiyama got three more points in PCS than Ilia. Even Ilia's GOE wasn't as high as it probably should have been. His quad Salchow only got a +2.91, and all his landings were solid. I wouldn't call that inflated marks.
@@L1623VPhe doesn't have much transitions. That could explain some of the GOE's. However, just because he doesn't get first place for PCS does not mean he isn't overscored.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh He wasn't overscored with such average PCS and GOE marks. He crushed everyone else technically and practically won on base points alone.
@@L1623VP I didn't say he never deserved his win nor did I say he was overscored technically. I was speaking on PCS. With this competition he has broken Nathan Chen and Yuzuru's world record. I view his skate within that specific context.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh I didn't say that you said he didn't deserve to win. With this competition, Ilia only took the LP world record, not the top score. Nathan still holds that. Ilia posted the second highest total score at '24 Worlds. So far, Nathan and Ilia hold eight of the Top 10 scores of all time (Nathan 5, Ilia 3) with Hanyu and Uno each holding one.
Just bring back review of worlds...
It is on Patreon.
@@TheSkatingLesson I know,but there was not a single reason to hide it.Figure skating need harsh opinions since everyone is too nice and you just run away cuz of some comments
@@user-yt9wd6hx4m Agreed! The original review was better and more hard-hitting than this interview with Maya. Nothing against her personally.
55:09 Yuma Kagiyama
Great discussion. I am really not trying to be mean but someone needs to style Amber and teach her how to do her make up properly. The make up looks very Texas meets Honey Boo Boo people, not sure if they are from Texas?
yes, Amber needs to learn how to a do figure skating makeup properly, hers looks like from some amateur makeup "guru" online.
@@figureskating3141that and do run throughs of course
thanks for the upload. i can sense your frustration and hope you won't become so disillusioned you leave the sport entirely because hearing your opinion week after week over the years has made the sport significantly more enjoyable for me. I honestly just wish for more honest judging and sensible federations (that protect their skaters and don't burn out their skaters like korea or have politics that send their skaters to colorado like USA). My stand outs this year were Yuna Aoki and rino matsuike. They're both very musical. They remind me of Tomono. I also feel like Repond and Petrokina have a lot of potential. In general, I like the men, just wish skating skills was treated as its own thing separate from artistry. It's technical and should be treated as such. I think pairs needs a serious rehaul in choreography because it feels the most repetitive and boring. Feels like they could just take out a sbs jump. We can just see that in singles but better. I honestly feel the worse about ice dance. The judging makes no sense and it feels like the committee doesn't care about what the fans think or want at all. I get angry just watching it. Feels like the whole thing could have been an email and we can just check back in a few years.
Thank you. I need a mental break from it.
@@TheSkatingLessonI totally get you needing a mental break and maybe taking some time off for you would be healthy, but I really hope your skating content won’t be gone for good, you are honestly the best out there, we genuinely wouldn’t have the facts we have about doping etc without you, you are the most comprehensive journalist in the sport. Thank you so much for your work so far!
@@evemhooper I will be moving to a more hybrid model like other podcasts do. It is no longer financially viable to put in this amount of work with the sport shrinking as it has. I will be putting content exclusively on Patreon. After 12 years, it is time.
How hard is it to do timestamps?
Yuma
23:30 please, people, stop advertizing that instant noodles' woman. It's not funny anymore. The way she behaved in Kamila case is truly disgusting.
We don’t miss those “big” jumps with pre rotations and long take offs across entire arena -if she is talking about old era tutberidze girls
She is talking about Midor and Tonya probably
@@ArohaStill you think ?To me it was in reference to ruzzians
Серьезно ? Значит тебе не нравятся прыжки чемпионки мира Каори и Изабо ?
@@yulysolgunter2057 I don’t speak :orcs:and go watch it again :no long take offs or pre rotations -try again :Ivan/🤡
@@yulysolgunter2057 у Каори прыжки офигенные, несмотря на флутц. Одни из немногих с этим самым отложенным вращением. А вот у Изабо в лучших традициях Тутберидзе
Just starting to watch this video and waiting to how catty he gets in this video compared to how catty he got in the other video doing a recap of Worlds. His bitterness was epic in that video.
oh my! Maya has kids, I thought she was just a very young girl!
She has 3!
Sorry people were so awful on your original recap, hoping to be able to support your patreon soon. Looking forward to listening to your discussion with Maya!
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Horrible in what way? I saw the original video but didn't see anything unusual in the comments at that time.
Alena Kostornaia and Balazs Nagy would make a GREAT team for the US. He needs a girl who can land triple toe and salchow reliably.
He is skating with Audrey Shin.
I hope I never meet Deanna face to face cause she’ll call me out.
Josephine could beat Alysa no problem and she will be 18 by the time the Olympics rolls around. She has not had her growth spurt yet though and it may come soon. So who really knows.
You ended up taking down the recently premiered Worlds discussion with Dave and Jonathan where you had nothing good to say and got several things wrong? Good.
I moved it to Patreon for those who wish to see it.
sheesh Edward! It's Dave's channel and we all know it's his right to have his opinion. He called as he saw it and he was disappointed. Chill man.
@@Patricia599 Sorry, but there were several things in that discussion that were just plainly inaccurate. I'm not saying Dave should fake being positive and happy about it, obviously he is free to feel however he feels.
But the several inaccurate/sour comments included the following (to be clear I'm paraphrasing): "Chaeyeon's jumps are cheated" when her jumps were the cleanest and most textbook out of all women competing at worlds, "Yuzuru Hanyu never complimented his fellow competitors" which is plainly untrue, "Kaori is putting on a goofy/carefree persona and isn't taking this seriously" which assigns all kinds of insincere motivations to a widely beloved champion and a wholesome human being.
Statements like these were bound to get Dave and Jonathan a lot of heat from basically every corner of the online fs community (including rabid twitter fanyus) and I think he realized that himself and felt safer just making it exclusive to patreon supporters. That was his choice and in my personal and irrelevant opinion it was a good choice.
From this video with Maya it's also clear that his feelings about the Worlds are no longer quite as negative as they appeared when chatting with Jonathan. Or at least he found more positive things to talk about and approached it with a more uplifting attitude.
@@Edward-W all his recaps will now be on Patreon. Not just this one. He is STILL entitled to his own opinion and to express it on socials like CZcams.
@@Patricia599 Yes. He is also entitled to take a video off youtube if it risks spreading false info and receiving easily avoidable backlash. And I'm entitled to say it's a good decision to remove such a video :)
The ice dance is boring after a while, the same people on the podium, no room for upsets or comebacks. If you seen the dance once you've kind of seen it all.
"...Israel? I'm talking about real teams who medal." Lol.
Israel shouldn't even be at the next Olympics, war criminals
stop molly coddling that cheating skater; she knows what she is doing that she is being manipulated and she is because she and her family want the money to live
Which skater??
Вот и встретились опять два русофоба..
Kamila was asked by Putin to be the lead Ambassador of something dear to Kamila, the Games of the Future. Kamila was very grateful to Putin for making the inaugural event considered successful. However, people could notably see when Kamila sat with Putin at the ceremonies, she was diplomatic, but not in any way adoring of him.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. And she's not even 20.
Oh yes :that come back from 19 place ?🙈💯🚀
I was beside myself after Shoma's free program. I didn't notice him leave and come back. When he went out for that bronze medal, it was crazy
This is only channel keep talking about ruzzians or their absence-Dave can’t recognize-world is fine ,no such a loss ,more like relief
Hahahahahah. The world is fine? The ISU is losing loads of money from lack of viewership because of Russia's absence. Your opinion does not speak for the whole world.
ISU losing loads of money from loss of viewership. No the world is not fine. People Miss Russia
@@primalcritters you must of be from ruzzia itself :cause ISU pays money to ruzzian same as IOC -not the way around :learn how it works Ivan:millions of dollars we talking about
@@primalcritters nobody misses you -nobody wants to compete with you ,and certainly-nobody missing your money ,it’s ruzzia who is collecting million of dollars from IOC and ISU
@@primalcrittersnobody misses ruzzia :just the opposite:everyone refuses to compete with ruzzians