I know at one point back then I unlocked all weapons on all classes was fun to be so OP I would give myself a challenge I will spawn as a class and my objective would be to not die at all and with the rank of General the enemy team would Target me more purposely I had assumed it was because of my rank and how they designed the game that the game would prioritize you because of your high rank would make the game harder that's what the challenge I gave myself to do back then
Precision Pistol + Jet Pack = A Bloody Good Time *WARNING* ⚠️ I am editing this after grinding out nearly all of the awards. I am WARNING you, you cannot use the award weapons ONLINE. If this is why you are attempting to unlock them, please don’t waste your time as I did.
Beam rifle is actually MUCH more worse than the reward shotgun. Shorter range than a normal sniper, along with less ammo and a beam that sometimes doesn't even kill your target. If you had to rank the shotgun the lowest, then you just might be using it wrong.
The reward shotgun is what the other primary reward weapons should’ve been. Doesn’t significantly change the function of the weapon but is still a boost so you don’t feel bad permanently unlocking it.
Sorry, but the worst reward weapon has to be the beam rifle. You forgot to mention how the targeting is offset so that clean headshots on the reticle in zoomed in mode end up missing. That alone makes it pure ass.
Not only that, but since it takes about 0.5 seconds to exhaust the beam, it can turn a surefire killing headshot into a grazing shot, since the enemy was only in your crosshairs for a brief moment. Flechette shotgun might not be the most game-changing weapon, but it's still an objective upgrade from the base version.
@@brudbrud9137honestly, the reward shotgun isn't bad, it just basically gives you a little bit more stats. I'm personally a fan of it, I agree, it's not the best, but it definitely doesn't deserve bottom spot hatred while the beam rifle bugs out and refuses to give you head shots and makes it harder to actually be a sniper.
@@brudbrud9137 I understand, personal opinion makes me like the shotgun, because it feels less disruptive of what the engineer can do in combat to get the award version. They just turn the volume up from 10 to 11 and give you a free refill. I also have the bias of a friend who actually likes sniping
The beam rifle does actually have a longer range than the regular one, it's easy to notice on maps like hoth. It's just that the scope on the beam rifle is glitched and offset below the barrel, so your shots might look good, but are actually going over your target's head. The offset varies based on resolution, but a pelvis shot is generally a good bet against a standing opponent. I'd also like to add that the beam rifle's ability to kill without a headshot is great for multiplayer, as the only people left playing are sweats who WILL spam crouch roll the second they see you. If you have the regular rifle, you need to bodyshot them twice to kill them, with the beam rifle you aim just below their feet and vaporize them when they commit to a roll.
The real problem with the award Shotgun is if you're using it, then you're using a class that can't also have the award Pistol. But my go-to class was always the Heavy Trooper with the award Pistol since he had extra health while also having the equipment to handle vehicles.
Nah. The problem is you're already playing as an engineer, the best class and probably already one-shoting everything with the regular one. The robustness of the base engineer class already competes with the award weapons.
i always favoured dark trooper - when applicable. the ability to bounce in, charge up the arc caster and unleash a volley of electricity, finishing off any survivors with the award pistol? catharsis itself. you and i have straight opposite appraoches, it seems
I thought the award rifle was good at range, or at least it's better than the regular one. I hate the award sniper and rockets, but they'd be much more fun if they didn't replace the regular weapons. Finally, while the pistol is great, it breaks a couple heroes that use pistols, namly Han, Leia, and Jango who can't switch back to their primary if you use the secondary, at least on PS2.
Han, Leia and Jango don't get the Award Pistol at all, they have their own pistols and cannot be altered even if you kill a lot of enemies with them. The Award weapons are purely for the regular infantry, not for the Heroes or Villains (and this applies to all versions of BF2, even on the PS2). Also, Jango Fett's pistol is basically the same Award Pistol just with more ammo in it, so even if the Award Pistol somehow was given to him, it wouldn't change anything.
@@dakotaplatt8189 Ok, I decided to fire up Battlefront 2 on the og Xbox, and not only can I confirm that the Han Solo Fusion Cutter glitch present in the PS2 version is not only also present in the og Xbox version, but using a new profile, I managed to test it with Mos Eisley regular Conquest and Hero Assault, and yes, unfortunately when getting the Gunslinger award on Veteran status and temporarily getting the Award Pistol, it does break Han Solo and cause him to not switch back to his DL-44 Blaster after switching to the Fusion Cutter; and if you have Gunslinger on Legendary status, the glitch is permanent. So, yeah, you were right all along that the Award Pistol did cause Han Solo to not switch back to his Primary.
Tbh the beam rifle needs to be in it's own tier of bad. It does have some uses, but these are far outweighed by the cons 1) Messy weapon design as it's a sniper that's "better" for close quarters but forces you into max zoom when you ADS while also having seemingly less range than regular sniper. Plus, your shots can end up doing less damage because instead of a single damage value it's based on how long you keep your reticle on the target. 2) Imagine if the reward rocket fully replaced the default rocket. Remote rocket is definitely potent but if it fully replaced your regular launcher you'd find your job of busting some tanks way harder. It's the same with the beam rifle. You lose your regular rifle and as a result the way you go about sniping is forever changed if you get legendary status. 3) The precision pistol is literally right there if you need a sniper that's better in close quarters. Obviously this says more about the pistol than the rifle, but honestly the award pistol is just a better version of what the beam rifle tries to do in every way while also being more universally useful and probably easier to get as well. Reward shotgun might not be too impressive, but it at least still does it's job well. Beam rifle being a counterintuitive weapon design that gets high diff'd by a sidearm while also kinda ruining your ability to snipe normally is why it needs to be avoided at all costs.
Fun fact, I didn't even know these upgrades existed despite playing this game every day as a child and playing about 200 hours of the original PC port as an adult.
The Award Pistol is so good that it made me learn how to actually use the regular pistol to get the 6 kills needed with it in 1 life. Started carefully aiming for the head, getting enemies low with my primary and then finishing them with the pistol, swapping to it instead of reloading if I need to reload and timing my shots so I never went into overheat. Was a super cool experience that I would've never had if the Award Pistol wasn't roided tf out
i really like Award Weapons because you can technically carry your normal loadout and then switch/drop it for the Award Weapon. More ammo and versatile, you can go back to spawn point to regain the main weapon, though we cannot retain Main weapon after Award status.
The worst thing about the reward sniper rifle is you can't get rid of it without creating a new account. If it were an optional thing, it'd be okay, as certain maps it's better to use. But losing the regular sniper rifle as soon as you switch to your pistol is lame.
I always hated that three-burst-rifle-version. In fact, I hated all these reward-weapons. As far as I remember, In the original you just had them and there was no way of deactivating them. Can you now deactivate these reward-weapons ? What about that stupid enhanced-damage-effect ? Is is still there ? It makes the figure beep the whole time and drives one totally nuts. I always erased my profile and started all over again when I arrived at that point. Better to loose everything than running around with that beeping all the time. Worst BS in the whole game ...
Biggest Drawback of the Reward Pistol: For some reason the version I played once you had Legendary Gunslinger Han Solo could not use his own blaster any more. If you switched to the fusion cutter at all Han Solo was done.
If you only aim for the lower body you hit more often and it one shots. Its like a reverse sniper rifle where you cant headshot but aiming low works better.
You can only headshot with the beam rifle when unscoped, dumb enough. I had to teach my friend how to switch classes because they would accidentally swap to the beam rifle, and their sniper gameplay would be absolutely lobotomized
Yooo thank you for doing this! I've still been grinding and i got almost all of them to legendary. Yeah the beam rifle is pretty wonky but can still put in work. Unlike others, it's good to pair with the regular rifle for longer range and saving ammo. Glad to see the video is doing well!
I remember when I first unlocked the elite rifle as a kid, I was doing a space battle. And when I shot small bursts of purple shots, I got angry because I liked doing nonstop rapid fire more, and I thought that either my game or controller stopped working😂😂😂
I think the purpose of the beam rifle was to be used in more of a mid-range application where the higher burst damage offsets the lack of headshot damage. Ironically, I found playing sniper with the beam rifle as my close range and the hotshot pistol as long made me a great flank unit. Like defending Kashyyk I'd just mob to the A.I.'s far command post and clean house
I always felt the reward rocket launcher (the remote rocket) was generally the worst, as it was unwieldy to steer and difficult to earn. It also left the shooter's body vulnerable, similar to the deployable drones used by the Magna Guard and Imperial Officer. The flechette shotgun, commando rifle, and precision pistol were the best reward weapons in my experience. The beam rifle was very meh; if you developed the consistency of headshots needed with the sniper rifle to earn it, you would often find that it didn't quite translate well to the reward weapon and leave you disappointed. The width of the beam also made it difficult to snipe troops' heads out of turrets, as opposed to the standard sniper rifle. The beam rifle wasn't *bad*, though; it just required a shift in how the player approached targets.
I think the elite blaster is best if you have aiming down perfect. While the hotshot pistol does have more burst potential, i do seem to have ammo problems with it more often than the rifle.
Remote rocket is awful because you really are a sitting duck and become heavily reliant on ammo drones. It removes you from the front lines, it's not as consistent, and in PvP it might as well shoot a beacon up in the sky telling the enemy where you are. Beam rifle at least functions well, but it doesn't feel good. Its range is significantly less than the rifle it replaces, doesn't have headshots, and can fail to kill a moving target as it deals damage based on how long the target is in the beam. Less ammo too. Is Technician really an "award weapon?" It applies to all classes, it's more of a passive than an upgrade to an existing weapon.
As a casual who hasn't even gotten his first demolitionist, I don't think the elite rifle is actually that bad. All the rifles are pretty good at mid-to-long ranges, if you're just patient and aim down the sights. I've outsniped scout troopers as Frenzy Rebel Soldier on bespin, you can go range, but it is best in CQC
Man i hope the classic collection multiplayer gets fixed soon and people start playing it again. Yes Aspyr doesnt deserve it, but its the best games of all time. Cmon guys
beam and default sniper rifles had no reticle unless you ADS on the pc version specifically, but I think the console versions did have the reticle. oddly enough, I also think the Dark Trooper's Arc Caster has a faster fire rate on console, but i havent played the ps2 version in years so i could be misremembering
The beam rifle is such a tragedy. Penetration and being able to swipe with it if you miss is great, but something with the reticle and hurtboxes is mega bugged so you have to aim low to hit shots and even then they sometimes just don't register. Even if it actually hit where you were aiming, the award pistol is still better lol Award rocket is fun tho, you can just camp an ammo droid further back in the map or in safer areas and just bomb targets repeatedly. Its just a boring grind to get it compared to other weapons
I think the award shotgun isn't that amazing, but it is kinda carried by everything else because the class is already a monster, and the shotgun is already the best standard weapon. Healing and the instant kill delete button? Engineers the best. The award shotgun is just making a monster more powerful.
I always had a bug with the beam rifle where I could never get head shots with it. I hated that I mastered it and I couldn't switch to my pistol without equipping it. Never was able to kill people out of turrets or vehicle tops because of that. Have to put it at the bottom for me.
1. Pistol 2. Rifle 3. Shotgun 4. Sniper 5. Remote Rockets While they are the most fun you need to be way too precise to convert kills. The reward sniper is a genuine downgrade with a singular niche but even in its niche you are using an overall better weapon with the trooper class, award rifle.
I have achieved gunslinger 70 times but it doesnt let me spawn with the precision pistol instead i have to kill enemies 4 times then i unlock it for the battle even if i die but i dont spawn with it automatically. Do you know what the solution is?
Nah, that's cap. The Award Shotgun has better range and damage as a whole than the regular one, which also gives it more effective range. It takes an already powerful weapon and makes it even *more* powerful, and even capable of doing some damage to vehicles. It should be top 3.
Maybe someone could shed some light on this. I'm far past the 64 frenzy medals and the elite rifle is still only unlocking after 9 kills unlike the previous versions of the game where it would unlock immediately at first spawn. Is this a bug or intentional?
Always hated the beam rifle. You wanna be a sniper? Great! Just never switch weapons ever or you're demoted to infantry.. sure it's a decent weapon, but I'd rather have the sniper and pistol
What's the damage of the remote rocket? Is it any different from the vehicle version? I always found myself using them and feeling like they did next to nothing....
You have to accelerate the rocket to a higher speed before it makes contact for maximum effect. The explosive range is absolutely huge when you do that, and it makes maps like Kashyyyk a joke because you can bombard the beaches with those huge explosive ranges and rack up tons of kills. Without the speed boost tho, they have pitiful explosive ranges and may as well be worse single target versions of the regular rockets. Both have their time and place as a result.
Before even watching a second of the video; beam sniper worst, precision pistol best. After watching, I was close. (Really? Don't like Flechette shotgun? I think it's okay, but primarily because the shotgun is already quite good, but to be fair I never felt like the flechette shotgun feels any different than the standard shotgun.)
@@brudbrud9137 Honestly I agree, it's not "bad", just that it feels identical to the standard shotgun (which inof itself is a great weapon, especially with the damage buff) whereas other AWARD weapons are absolutely nutty and play significantly different than their base counterpart, like remote-controlled rockets, the burst-fire rifle, or the precision pistol. Btw, fun idea for a video; what if ALL weapons had AWARD versions? Like the EMP Launcher, Commando's chaingun, heck maybe an AWARD fusion cutter. I'd love to see how creative you can get with ideas of souped-up variants of weapons >:)
Personally the flechette is up there with the elite rifle and the reward pistol. I used the shotgun a lot, and it made a great weapon into an amazing weapon because of the increased damage and tighter spread. The beam rifle had poor range, rate of fire, and ammo capacity, it just wasn't very good for me
I knew the pistol was gonna be best, I mastered it back in the day, so I didn’t even have to earn it anymore, I just spawned with it
It's so op
I know at one point back then I unlocked all weapons on all classes was fun to be so OP I would give myself a challenge I will spawn as a class and my objective would be to not die at all and with the rank of General the enemy team would Target me more purposely I had assumed it was because of my rank and how they designed the game that the game would prioritize you because of your high rank would make the game harder that's what the challenge I gave myself to do back then
Precision Pistol + Jet Pack = A Bloody Good Time
*WARNING* ⚠️ I am editing this after grinding out nearly all of the awards. I am WARNING you, you cannot use the award weapons ONLINE. If this is why you are attempting to unlock them, please don’t waste your time as I did.
Lol rip
Beam rifle is actually MUCH more worse than the reward shotgun. Shorter range than a normal sniper, along with less ammo and a beam that sometimes doesn't even kill your target. If you had to rank the shotgun the lowest, then you just might be using it wrong.
but the satisfaction of a double kill definitely counts for fun points
Completely agree. I definitely think the reward sniper is the worst. No equivocality whatsoever.
The reward shotgun is what the other primary reward weapons should’ve been. Doesn’t significantly change the function of the weapon but is still a boost so you don’t feel bad permanently unlocking it.
That's a great point dude I think if they had them online that's how it should work or something similar idk
My gripe with the reward rifle is sometimes you want full auto but when you have it permanently unlocked full auto is no longer an option
@@artizzy2k2k exactly
Sorry, but the worst reward weapon has to be the beam rifle. You forgot to mention how the targeting is offset so that clean headshots on the reticle in zoomed in mode end up missing. That alone makes it pure ass.
Understandable I'm just disappointed by the reward shotgun myself
Not only that, but since it takes about 0.5 seconds to exhaust the beam, it can turn a surefire killing headshot into a grazing shot, since the enemy was only in your crosshairs for a brief moment. Flechette shotgun might not be the most game-changing weapon, but it's still an objective upgrade from the base version.
@@brudbrud9137honestly, the reward shotgun isn't bad, it just basically gives you a little bit more stats. I'm personally a fan of it, I agree, it's not the best, but it definitely doesn't deserve bottom spot hatred while the beam rifle bugs out and refuses to give you head shots and makes it harder to actually be a sniper.
@@Kailith-Noxia yeah it's just too disappointing for me to not rank at the bottom and I actually enjoy using the beam rifle tbh
@@brudbrud9137 I understand, personal opinion makes me like the shotgun, because it feels less disruptive of what the engineer can do in combat to get the award version. They just turn the volume up from 10 to 11 and give you a free refill. I also have the bias of a friend who actually likes sniping
The beam rifle does actually have a longer range than the regular one, it's easy to notice on maps like hoth. It's just that the scope on the beam rifle is glitched and offset below the barrel, so your shots might look good, but are actually going over your target's head. The offset varies based on resolution, but a pelvis shot is generally a good bet against a standing opponent.
I'd also like to add that the beam rifle's ability to kill without a headshot is great for multiplayer, as the only people left playing are sweats who WILL spam crouch roll the second they see you. If you have the regular rifle, you need to bodyshot them twice to kill them, with the beam rifle you aim just below their feet and vaporize them when they commit to a roll.
No wonder I was having trouble with the beam rifle! I would literally be aiming at the target's head and it wouldn't kill them lol
Thanks for the tip! I had no idea about the offset! I'll get you again, Nom Carver!
The real problem with the award Shotgun is if you're using it, then you're using a class that can't also have the award Pistol.
But my go-to class was always the Heavy Trooper with the award Pistol since he had extra health while also having the equipment to handle vehicles.
Nah. The problem is you're already playing as an engineer, the best class and probably already one-shoting everything with the regular one. The robustness of the base engineer class already competes with the award weapons.
i always favoured dark trooper - when applicable.
the ability to bounce in, charge up the arc caster and unleash a volley of electricity, finishing off any survivors with the award pistol? catharsis itself.
you and i have straight opposite appraoches, it seems
I thought the award rifle was good at range, or at least it's better than the regular one. I hate the award sniper and rockets, but they'd be much more fun if they didn't replace the regular weapons. Finally, while the pistol is great, it breaks a couple heroes that use pistols, namly Han, Leia, and Jango who can't switch back to their primary if you use the secondary, at least on PS2.
Han, Leia and Jango don't get the Award Pistol at all, they have their own pistols and cannot be altered even if you kill a lot of enemies with them. The Award weapons are purely for the regular infantry, not for the Heroes or Villains (and this applies to all versions of BF2, even on the PS2).
Also, Jango Fett's pistol is basically the same Award Pistol just with more ammo in it, so even if the Award Pistol somehow was given to him, it wouldn't change anything.
@@generalcjg I had no idea that was always there. I had always assumed that came from the Award Pistol.
The remote rocket doesn't replace your rocket launcher you have both
@@dakotaplatt8189 Ok, I decided to fire up Battlefront 2 on the og Xbox, and not only can I confirm that the Han Solo Fusion Cutter glitch present in the PS2 version is not only also present in the og Xbox version, but using a new profile, I managed to test it with Mos Eisley regular Conquest and Hero Assault, and yes, unfortunately when getting the Gunslinger award on Veteran status and temporarily getting the Award Pistol, it does break Han Solo and cause him to not switch back to his DL-44 Blaster after switching to the Fusion Cutter; and if you have Gunslinger on Legendary status, the glitch is permanent.
So, yeah, you were right all along that the Award Pistol did cause Han Solo to not switch back to his Primary.
Tbh the beam rifle needs to be in it's own tier of bad. It does have some uses, but these are far outweighed by the cons
1) Messy weapon design as it's a sniper that's "better" for close quarters but forces you into max zoom when you ADS while also having seemingly less range than regular sniper. Plus, your shots can end up doing less damage because instead of a single damage value it's based on how long you keep your reticle on the target.
2) Imagine if the reward rocket fully replaced the default rocket. Remote rocket is definitely potent but if it fully replaced your regular launcher you'd find your job of busting some tanks way harder. It's the same with the beam rifle. You lose your regular rifle and as a result the way you go about sniping is forever changed if you get legendary status.
3) The precision pistol is literally right there if you need a sniper that's better in close quarters. Obviously this says more about the pistol than the rifle, but honestly the award pistol is just a better version of what the beam rifle tries to do in every way while also being more universally useful and probably easier to get as well.
Reward shotgun might not be too impressive, but it at least still does it's job well. Beam rifle being a counterintuitive weapon design that gets high diff'd by a sidearm while also kinda ruining your ability to snipe normally is why it needs to be avoided at all costs.
Yeah it's definitely not worth getting permanently
Fun fact, I didn't even know these upgrades existed despite playing this game every day as a child and playing about 200 hours of the original PC port as an adult.
Ive always liked the award rifle a little more than the pistol. Maybe just my play style
Completely understandable under certain situations and maps it's better but that's like one maybe two maps lol
I never thought to rank reward weapons. You're exceeding my expectations, keep the amazing content coming.
Why thank you a commenter actually gave me the idea I shoulda shouted them out in the video
You can still mention it in the comments section or better yet in the video description.
The award shotgun shines when used against large groups of enemies. Each impact, with an enemy or a surface, triggers a powerful AoE damage.
I love that everyone is even talking about this gem of a game ❤
The Award Pistol is so good that it made me learn how to actually use the regular pistol to get the 6 kills needed with it in 1 life. Started carefully aiming for the head, getting enemies low with my primary and then finishing them with the pistol, swapping to it instead of reloading if I need to reload and timing my shots so I never went into overheat. Was a super cool experience that I would've never had if the Award Pistol wasn't roided tf out
i really like Award Weapons because you can technically carry your normal loadout and then switch/drop it for the Award Weapon. More ammo and versatile, you can go back to spawn point to regain the main weapon, though we cannot retain Main weapon after Award status.
The beam rifle's is terrible if you try and use it as a sniper rifle.
The worst thing about the reward sniper rifle is you can't get rid of it without creating a new account. If it were an optional thing, it'd be okay, as certain maps it's better to use. But losing the regular sniper rifle as soon as you switch to your pistol is lame.
I always hated that three-burst-rifle-version. In fact, I hated all these reward-weapons.
As far as I remember, In the original you just had them and there was no way of deactivating them. Can you now deactivate these reward-weapons ?
What about that stupid enhanced-damage-effect ? Is is still there ? It makes the figure beep the whole time and drives one totally nuts. I always erased my profile and started all over again when I arrived at that point. Better to loose everything than running around with that beeping all the time. Worst BS in the whole game ...
I believe you can deactivate them now in classic collection
@@brudbrud9137that would be cool ...
@@brudbrud9137 really? how
@@nameynamename3758 under select when choosing a unit I seen the option unless I'm delusional
Biggest Drawback of the Reward Pistol: For some reason the version I played once you had Legendary Gunslinger Han Solo could not use his own blaster any more. If you switched to the fusion cutter at all Han Solo was done.
i remember being younger and trying not to get marksman on legendary just so I wouldn't start with the beam rifle. i always hated it
Yeah reward pistol is GOAT!!
Btw do you know if the vehicle regen stacks with the pilot's regen during space battles?
I believe it does I forgot to test before the video lol
Lol at you squad-wiping your entire team with the beam rifle
They got in my way that's what they get
The elite rifle and award pistol are my favorites to use. Never got to use the remote rocket before though.
I feel like the beam rifle doesn’t even work….I have a harder time with it than the regular sniper
Like I said at long ranges it's completely garbage idk why it's the reward sniper
@andrewj9929 you are correct. Beam rifle is bugged.
If you only aim for the lower body you hit more often and it one shots. Its like a reverse sniper rifle where you cant headshot but aiming low works better.
You can only headshot with the beam rifle when unscoped, dumb enough. I had to teach my friend how to switch classes because they would accidentally swap to the beam rifle, and their sniper gameplay would be absolutely lobotomized
Yooo thank you for doing this! I've still been grinding and i got almost all of them to legendary. Yeah the beam rifle is pretty wonky but can still put in work. Unlike others, it's good to pair with the regular rifle for longer range and saving ammo. Glad to see the video is doing well!
Oh yeah and the award sniper is also great for droidekas. One shot one kill, and does great damage to shields.
Yeah the grind is annoying but it's worth it everything is so op
I remember when I first unlocked the elite rifle as a kid, I was doing a space battle. And when I shot small bursts of purple shots, I got angry because I liked doing nonstop rapid fire more, and I thought that either my game or controller stopped working😂😂😂
Beam rifle in last for me cause it's glitches and actually does damage only about 25 percent of the time. An Elite rifle over pistol for me
Understandable I hear that a lot I have no issues personally but idk
Don't know if it was fixed in the remaster, but in the original, the beam rifle could not hit heads while zoomed in. Not great for a sniper rifle
It could, you just had to aim lower than you'd think you should, because the sight is offset below the barrel.
I think the purpose of the beam rifle was to be used in more of a mid-range application where the higher burst damage offsets the lack of headshot damage. Ironically, I found playing sniper with the beam rifle as my close range and the hotshot pistol as long made me a great flank unit. Like defending Kashyyk I'd just mob to the A.I.'s far command post and clean house
I always felt the reward rocket launcher (the remote rocket) was generally the worst, as it was unwieldy to steer and difficult to earn. It also left the shooter's body vulnerable, similar to the deployable drones used by the Magna Guard and Imperial Officer. The flechette shotgun, commando rifle, and precision pistol were the best reward weapons in my experience. The beam rifle was very meh; if you developed the consistency of headshots needed with the sniper rifle to earn it, you would often find that it didn't quite translate well to the reward weapon and leave you disappointed. The width of the beam also made it difficult to snipe troops' heads out of turrets, as opposed to the standard sniper rifle. The beam rifle wasn't *bad*, though; it just required a shift in how the player approached targets.
I always wondered if the super battle droid gets a reward weapons for his tri shot, it would be cool
It's so good if they did it'd just be unfair lol
o7
The beam rifle...does it have a shorter range? I always get sad about not hitting target's which I could get seconds before
I think the elite blaster is best if you have aiming down perfect. While the hotshot pistol does have more burst potential, i do seem to have ammo problems with it more often than the rifle.
Remote rocket is awful because you really are a sitting duck and become heavily reliant on ammo drones. It removes you from the front lines, it's not as consistent, and in PvP it might as well shoot a beacon up in the sky telling the enemy where you are.
Beam rifle at least functions well, but it doesn't feel good. Its range is significantly less than the rifle it replaces, doesn't have headshots, and can fail to kill a moving target as it deals damage based on how long the target is in the beam. Less ammo too.
Is Technician really an "award weapon?" It applies to all classes, it's more of a passive than an upgrade to an existing weapon.
As a casual who hasn't even gotten his first demolitionist, I don't think the elite rifle is actually that bad. All the rifles are pretty good at mid-to-long ranges, if you're just patient and aim down the sights.
I've outsniped scout troopers as Frenzy Rebel Soldier on bespin, you can go range, but it is best in CQC
Man i hope the classic collection multiplayer gets fixed soon and people start playing it again. Yes Aspyr doesnt deserve it, but its the best games of all time. Cmon guys
I wish a company that cared did them but it's been good the last couple of days but I feel like the launch may have killed them idk
beam and default sniper rifles had no reticle unless you ADS on the pc version specifically, but I think the console versions did have the reticle.
oddly enough, I also think the Dark Trooper's Arc Caster has a faster fire rate on console, but i havent played the ps2 version in years so i could be misremembering
Darktrooper + rapid fire sniper pistol is the *GOAT*
Man i wish the dark trooper had the shotgun upgrade, fucking hate the arc cannon
I was fully expecting you to say one of the weapons was worse than the original due to just how game developers are
Elite rifle is goated. You can end Wookie Warriors in a single burst on headshots
It's crazy if your aim is good
@@brudbrud9137 can be abused with sticky reticle and aim assist but I can't play with it anymore.
The beam rifle is such a tragedy. Penetration and being able to swipe with it if you miss is great, but something with the reticle and hurtboxes is mega bugged so you have to aim low to hit shots and even then they sometimes just don't register. Even if it actually hit where you were aiming, the award pistol is still better lol
Award rocket is fun tho, you can just camp an ammo droid further back in the map or in safer areas and just bomb targets repeatedly. Its just a boring grind to get it compared to other weapons
Yeah it's weird cause Leah's gun is just that but it actually works lol
Oh, but to set things right : I love these games and I hope that the fix-update will finally come out for consoles.
The lack of reticule on the beam rifle sniper is leftover from how PC sniper rifles didn't have reticules
I can’t search specific game matches without my game crashing
Strange I can idk what's with it
Farming the pistol untel you get it to legendary status makes the game really unbalanced but really fun
Ill be honest, for me i LOVE the beam rifle, i actually love it more than any other gun in the game😅
Using the Elite Rifle feels like playing SWAT in Halo
So true
I think the award shotgun isn't that amazing, but it is kinda carried by everything else because the class is already a monster, and the shotgun is already the best standard weapon. Healing and the instant kill delete button? Engineers the best. The award shotgun is just making a monster more powerful.
Are there a lot of people playing this game in multiplayer after a remaster?
I always had a bug with the beam rifle where I could never get head shots with it. I hated that I mastered it and I couldn't switch to my pistol without equipping it. Never was able to kill people out of turrets or vehicle tops because of that. Have to put it at the bottom for me.
Tbh. I'm generally not a fan of the award weapons because the game is already super easy, and adding permanent buffs to my character doesn't help.
1. Pistol
2. Rifle
3. Shotgun
4. Sniper
5. Remote Rockets
While they are the most fun you need to be way too precise to convert kills. The reward sniper is a genuine downgrade with a singular niche but even in its niche you are using an overall better weapon with the trooper class, award rifle.
Remote rockets are fun just to fool arround. Other than that i would not recomend it.
Nah bro you snipe w/ the Elite Rifle.
Though yeah the cheater pistol is #1
I have achieved gunslinger 70 times but it doesnt let me spawn with the precision pistol instead i have to kill enemies 4 times then i unlock it for the battle even if i die but i dont spawn with it automatically. Do you know what the solution is?
Nah, that's cap. The Award Shotgun has better range and damage as a whole than the regular one, which also gives it more effective range.
It takes an already powerful weapon and makes it even *more* powerful, and even capable of doing some damage to vehicles. It should be top 3.
Maybe someone could shed some light on this. I'm far past the 64 frenzy medals and the elite rifle is still only unlocking after 9 kills unlike the previous versions of the game where it would unlock immediately at first spawn. Is this a bug or intentional?
Probably a bug nothing shocks me in classic collection
Great vid but you should try writing a script or cutting more, in the last part of the video you repeated the same points over and over.
Noted!
Wtf did they do to the font lmao it looks like something you'd see on a beta
Always hated the beam rifle. You wanna be a sniper? Great! Just never switch weapons ever or you're demoted to infantry.. sure it's a decent weapon, but I'd rather have the sniper and pistol
Beam rifle is absolutely the worst. It’s been bugged since the very first day. IT CANNOT HEADSHOT.
What's the damage of the remote rocket? Is it any different from the vehicle version? I always found myself using them and feeling like they did next to nothing....
You have to accelerate the rocket to a higher speed before it makes contact for maximum effect. The explosive range is absolutely huge when you do that, and it makes maps like Kashyyyk a joke because you can bombard the beaches with those huge explosive ranges and rack up tons of kills.
Without the speed boost tho, they have pitiful explosive ranges and may as well be worse single target versions of the regular rockets. Both have their time and place as a result.
These are interesting opinions
there's a reward fusion cutter?!
The reward rifle lacks at long ranges?
m8 i think you're the one that lacks at long ranges. i get long range kills with that thing without issue
1:53 what did those good men do to deserve that 🤬
They were my test dummies
3:50 that's what she said.
Before even watching a second of the video; beam sniper worst, precision pistol best.
After watching, I was close. (Really? Don't like Flechette shotgun? I think it's okay, but primarily because the shotgun is already quite good, but to be fair I never felt like the flechette shotgun feels any different than the standard shotgun.)
Honestly I'm more disappointed with it than anything it just doesn't feel as good as the other reward weapons and that it's hardly any different
@@brudbrud9137 Honestly I agree, it's not "bad", just that it feels identical to the standard shotgun (which inof itself is a great weapon, especially with the damage buff) whereas other AWARD weapons are absolutely nutty and play significantly different than their base counterpart, like remote-controlled rockets, the burst-fire rifle, or the precision pistol.
Btw, fun idea for a video; what if ALL weapons had AWARD versions? Like the EMP Launcher, Commando's chaingun, heck maybe an AWARD fusion cutter. I'd love to see how creative you can get with ideas of souped-up variants of weapons >:)
>He thinks the Beam rifle is better than the upgraded shotgun
Lol~!
The flechette shotgun is great ??? The Beam Rifle is simply a downgrade.
It's not bad I put it that low because it's just slightly better then the og I like the beam rifle myself it least in short ranges lol
Personally the flechette is up there with the elite rifle and the reward pistol. I used the shotgun a lot, and it made a great weapon into an amazing weapon because of the increased damage and tighter spread. The beam rifle had poor range, rate of fire, and ammo capacity, it just wasn't very good for me
Beam rifle is dogshit, takes away long range capabilities and you will never get another headshot
Beam rifle does no damage in my game
It's glitched apparently
Dude you can't fucking hit a target and played the same three clips over and over and over
Yeah it is the cheater pistol so much in the sense it's the only good thing over the SUPERS!!!!!! and it is a good one
Reward shotgun is terrible
I'm glad you said the flechette shotgun is the worst, as I totally agree! The shotguns in this game are worse than the ones in the first game!