Hearthstone: Quest Hunter - RAPTIDE! (Standard)
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Remember that Jurassic World meme with the 3 raptors?
Well, it's in hearthstone now and it's only a matter of time until trolden makes that joke.
look at the art for the warrior 2/6 taunt for 2
Thy Red cornered sentry?
i think so yeah
when she dies she says;clever girls ( or something) wich is also said in Jurrasic park.
Wormy I
Next week on Hearthstone : Every Aggro Deck wakes the fck up.
DammitSinged Once people realize aggro is still broken as shit then half the decks will fall out. Pirate Warrior still wins against most of these decks.
Nah Pirate Warrior will be falling off soon. When all the aggro hate cards were revealed a lot of the control players assumed that Pirate Warriors would be insane to keep playing the deck, so they didn't even tech in tar creeper or the crawler. But they underestimated that many people only play Pirate Warrior because they don't want to pay for expansions and need a cheap deck, so they were going to play it regardless. When people wise up and start teching in the pirate hate, it'll die a quick and messy death. There's just no getting around it. Crawler and 3-mana senjin are too good.
i went on a 15 game in streak with pirates and got rank 6, so yeah pirates are totally still rediculous. I like tech cards against decks but people are too worried about trying to win vi quests that against aggro it just doesnt matter.
+Fancy Even with taunts Pirate Warrior doesn't give a living fuck. It often can and does find a way to remove taunts while simultaneously hitting face. I mean Handlock is great against them, but that's one deck out of several, and if they get one bad draw they just outright lose.
If you don't believe me, watch one of Firebat's videos where he fills his paladin deck with taunts and removal, and Pirate Warrior still rolls him.
the power of weapons. Thats what takes pirates above and beyond. Weapons are just taunt/minion removal so they can go face, i hate playing aggro to grind ranked but i got nothing in terms of midrange now. lol
It's funny that a deck that relys on 1 drops is still too slow. Plus forces you to use a vast majority of late game useless cards just for the chance of filling your deck with slightly better ones. If all the carnassas brood were 4/3 raptors that drew you card the deck still wouldn't be good enough.
I feel like the Hemet version where you jungle hunter once you've completed the quest then fill the space with the raptors might be better, since any of the 1 drops left at that point will be useless and you'd rather have a high drop or a raptor.
It's not slow at all, it's just inconsistent. Hunter lacks card draw, and the deck isn't diluted enough with just 15 out of 30-35 cards being the Raptors. This quest in Zoolock would be beyond broken.
That's how I run my hunter quest deck, it works well. As hemet will clear the trash, your decks card quality goes way up. Even if you don't draw hemet, you have so much card draw now that a dead card isn't really an issue. Also, infest is much better than stampede, as I was finding myself with 4+ minions on board really consistently, and as 1 drops make up a lot of your deck, you have mana lying around to spend on it.
I just honestly feel the quest reward itself is counter productive to the way you complete it. The quest overall is way too slow. Earliest I've seen it completed was turn 5 so Carnassa was played turn 6. That is way too slow. An agressive deck should be closing the game out by turn 6 not just starting to get going. If the Hunter quest had the caverns below reward it would make sense. Since you have to play loads of weak minions so having a reward of making those minions strong makes sense. Currently it is by far the worst quest.
Every other quest reward has some instant impact except for the Druid quest. But the Druid quest has that deck synergy since you have to play a bunch of high cost minions to activate it then makes those minions cost 0 later. The Hunter quest does nothing.
I don't remember saying either of those things you just mentioned. But the quest isn't bad, it's just in the wrong class. As someone else said, if this was the warlock quest it'd be great. If hunter had Caverns Below as the reward for completing their quest then this whole 1 drop focused deck would be great.
"It's time to make Hunter great again"
2014 me is cowering in a corner whispering "Bring out your raptors" to himself over and over again.
The problem with the hunter quest is that it's balanced. It is a nice reward and helps you keep pressure in a fair way. The problem is, is that a lot of other decks seem to just kill faster so this will never be played. It's sad :/
Stampede is smart in this deck, what isn't smart is the complete lack of proper beast synergy and infest. Infest was considered a bad card because of how difficult it was to create and keep a large board long enough to play it. Not in this deck, in this deck it'd be amazing. Also, all I keep hearing is how amazing and OP the hunter quest deck is, and I just keep seeing it lose...
Think about it. like 20 1Drops. Empty your ass onto the board, Infest, Empty your ass onto the board again, stampede, empty your ass on the board again, Quest, 4th flood. Hell why not throw a rat pack in there for good measure? Considering how crazy your board gets, the +2/+2 hunter hero power could also be good.
I think the the best way to make this deck work is to include less one drops and make it more controlly. There is not much point in getting the reward early if it means relying on top decks and having a deck where there is not much of a chance of spamming 3/2 raptors. It would be much better if you completed the quest later, when your deck is smaller, meaning you can just spam the carnassa's brood. Does anyone agree?
Varun Murthy what would you add instead of the 1 drops ?
like have enough one drops to be able to complete the quest without drawing your whole deck, but in general more control cards. Probably stuff like houndmaster, call of the wild, what you used to see in the old call of the wild hunter. You need general value cards to get later in the game. you could add deathrattles and put in the huhuran and 3 mana huhuran. trump doesnt have animal companion or hunters mark.
I do. Also, Hemmet to thin the deck after a point. Definitely the rhino to make the raptor work, and unleash the hounds to complete the quest.
Slow Motion unleash doesn't help quest, it says "play 7 1 drops"
Well, the problem is, if you play hemet after the quest completes, you kill all your raptors. And unleash the hounds does not count as "playing one cost minions".
I've been running Dread Corsair and Eagle Horn Bow with a Patches thrown it. With the discount it counts as a 1 drop. I have 2 Southsea Deckhands for more pirate and weapon synergy as well. Been having pretty good success with this twist. Also Tundra Rhino is really good in this deck. In the later parts of the match is a really good win condition if you're not as ahead if you would like. On turn 10 you can play with the Marsh Queen for 10 burst damage, or you can just keep playing you're raptors and going face for 3 over and over again. And having more things with charge is good for the Cult Master. Turn 5 you can Cult Master and Southsea Deckhand + Patches for 2 card draw if you're desperate and your board is empty.
I built this quest specifically around abusing the beast mechanic, Dinomancy, and Stampede and the only time I've ever had an empty hand was from my own misplay. This quest actually has the potential to be a powerful Beast themed control hunter and I've been doing incredibly well with it. You should give that a try instead of throwing in so many 1 drops with no synergy to the deck. Also, I would drop the Savannah because as good as it is, you don't want to draw it, you want to get it from Stampede or Jeweled Macaw which I've managed to do almost every game. Tundra Rhino is actually good because dropping him onto the board with 5 Raptors means a lot of instant kill power. Dinomancy is good because it let's you turn 1 drops into stronger minions that require your enemy to drop good spells on them instead of saving them for bigger minions. So far the only deck I've had consistent problems with this build is Priests that are heavy on stealing my cards like Skill Command and the Raptors. I haven't encountered Murloc shaman yet, but if you play control against Warrior, Mage and Priest quest decks you almost always win, unless they get away with Mage-zodia. You win 2/3rd of games against Rogue and Druid. Also, I have only lost 1 game to Pirate warrior out of 6.
I always love the stock photo esque thumbnails
Have you considered Tundra Rhino? Give Carnassa's Brood charge, combined with Cult Master results in draw 2 per brood if you use it to trade up.
Trump is one off those youtubers who can just make stuff interesting. I dont play Hearthstone but i watch the shit out of his videos. He's like TheWarOwl in that regard!
Shoudnt Tundra Rhino be included in this deck?
It should.
nakkertton yes 1 tundra 1 highmane works better
I agree, Tundra and the raptors from Queen Carnassa would be pretty good imo
according to trump, thundra is a bad card because it requires another card to be good and its a 2/5 so its unplayabe for him. I mean, thundra rhino is basically the only card that would make this quest hunter somewhat work and its still not good, but it could work. But no, thundra is a 2/5 for 5 so its unplyable. Trump 2017
And btw: Rogue Quest is bad and is almost impossible to complete. Trump 2017 again.
+SaithMasu12 I guess with that logic Gadgetzan Auctioneer is unplayable as well since it's 6 mana 4/4?
just counterspelled a rogue quest, seems pretty good
This is a good sight for Dino-sore eyes.
yay! You said making something great again! I can now die happy.
I can't believe Trump thinks Tundra Rhino is a bad card in this deck, it's literally the cornerstone, Tundra Rhino into Carnassa's Brood rush is one of the main win conditions.
As tier 1 as Hunter certainly DOESN'T seem, I'm glad the class got a new identity. It is certainly deserved after all their SMOrc nerfs and was sorely needed after so many amazing cards having rotated out. I feel like the game has 9 classes now which is great imo.
ME too bro, got so many choices now.
Crackling Razormaw is probably my new favorite card.
I really think hunter should be played like the new quest/value priest, just focus on surviving early and just swarming with non stop free cards with raptors + double stampede, flood the board AND your hand 2 times in the game, that's sick.
The hunter quest gave him his true spirit for the first time ever on Hearthstone, you really feel like a true beast master!
Trump, if this gets 50 thumbs you must bring back prison Trump.
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I was playing Handlock vs Quest Hunter yesterday. He finished the quest and started playing those low cost minion waves and I had both Hellfire and both 6/6 deal 3 damage to all characters. His waves had no chance. I feel bad for him xD
The Raptor Hatchlings are _terrible_ in this deck! You're very unlikely to draw the 4/3s before the quest is complete, so you're just diluting the Carnassa's Broods.
raptor hatchling is a very bad card indeed, but stampede alone is probably a good enough reason to play any 1mana 2/1 beast
You are trying to say: " a 1 mana 4/3 is bad".
Lol
@Daiman In this deck yes. It doesn't allow you to draw a card which is what the broods do.
a 0mana 4/3 that starts in the middle of your deck is utter trash
Daiman You never start with the 1m 4/3, and it's utter garabge after quest competition. It's a shit card.
I wish he would switch the Ravasaur Rant with a Scavenging Hyena.
Worst case: Both are 2/2s. Best case: One adaps, the other gets like a few +2/+1 buffs. Especially with Stampede and the Carnassa Brood
i like how fake Trumps reaction in the thumbnail is.
"Oh no, raptors"
20:19 Trump gets 14 mana crystals for no discernable reason
For people who want to try out this deck, replace cult master with the 2/5 give all your beasts charge guy, it should be alot better.
Tracking is great because it let's you dig for Warden, kill command and the better one drops in the early game while thinning your deck so you have less shitty 1-drops left after completing the quest.
Not all 1 drops are shitty.
some things i've noticed about building this type of deck
-it sucks when it comes to removal
-igneous elemental sucks if you draw it after carnassa
-infest sounds like a "win more" card but it's still great for value if you can play it on at least 2 or 3 minions, also it's easy to have a buncha cheap minions
-sometimes it's much better to play your higher cast cards and save your 1 drops for later turns; they have that flexibility
-tundra rhino is fantabulous as a tech card
-adding beasts to your hand is great due to the amount of 1 cost beasts there are
-camel and webspinner are good cards in wild(probably wanna substitute parrot with webspinner if you do camel)
Anyone noticed 14/10 mana at 20:16? :D Blizzard?
Do you think trump listens to Blizzards dumb rules, NO! Trump does whatever he wants and when somebody tells him ''you can only have 10 mana trump'' HE SAYS NO!!
It's time to make_________great again
-trump 2017
A) America
B) hunter
I like the Hunter quest as a plan B for when a midrange strategy doesn't work. I'm loving it in Wild at the moment.
arcengal except plan b ruins plan a
Meh, just run 8-10 one drops, 2-4 of which give you other one drops, and 2 Ranger of Eos. Your curve will be lower overall but you still have plenty of room for Scar and stuff.
Please do a video on quest Druid and quest warrior!
The Darkmoon Faire music makes me want to see a Darkmoon themed expansion for hearthstone.
Hope you're happy now :)
Quest hunter was the first legendary I ever crafted. I was young and did not yet understand hatred😜
20:15 when the game ends his mana goes to 14/10
I think the quest has a potential deck somewhere in the mid-range. rushing the quest always left me with too few cards in hand to have effective answers.
Things I've tested that worked out this set: Grievous bite (name? the deal 2 to minion and 1 to adjacents) is excelent against pirate and otherwise can really help your 1-drops trade. ultimately the quest requires good board control bc hunter playing from behind is still difficult at best.
The raptor that shuffles a 4/3 for one doesnt work in all decks, but if you're playing fewer one drops it can get some crazy value with tolvir warden. a 7 cost play for a 3/5 and two 4/3s is almost worth midrange playing only it for its 1-drops. I think the best I got this combo to happen was 1 jeweled macaw and 2 of the raptor with 2 tolvir wardens.
Infest is probably better for this video's 14 1-drop quest completion than stampede. it costs more and that sucks, but it goes off for each alleycat etc. If not over stampede it may be considered over cult master too, though instead of draw its rng, you're more likely to get each deathrattle than each draw from cult master.
Funny thing: I had played the queen twice, so I had 30 raptors in my deck. Blame freezing trap for that.
23:47 I disagree about Raptor Hatchling. From what I've seen, you typically complete the quest about turn 7-8, which means you've drawn about 10 cards and have about 20 "normal" cards left in your deck when you play Carnassa.
Of these, Tolvir Warden and Savannah Highmane are definitely better draws than the patriarch; Genzo, Cult Master, Igneous Elemental, Jeweled Macaw, and Stampede are arguably better as well. Carnassa's Brood is also much better.
That means that of the ~35 cards in your deck at this point, at least 20 (well over half your deck) are better draws than the patriarch. Not to mention that you don't want to draw them off Tolvir Warden, since you want to maximise your chances of drawing Carnassa's Brood.
The only time you want the patriarch is before you complete the quest, and the chances you draw both the hatchling AND the patriarch by that point are very small (I'd estimate about 1 in 30, or 3.3%). Even if you get it off Tolvir Warden, that means there's one more "bad" one-drop left in your deck when you complete the quest.
TLDR: When your gameplan revolves around shuffling lots of good cards into your deck, you don't want to be shuffling mediocre cards in as well, and the numbers prove this.
Why is noone playing tundra rhinos, questing adventurers or hyenas in these decks? :p
Trump drop G2A
The little raptor is probably really bad, since it dillutes your chance of chaining 3/2s later, when you need them the most.
Let me fix that for you it IS bad
Once you have settled into the new meta, will we see much arena? Big fan ✌🏽
Trump did you really just sing Bell Biv Devoe hahahah I bet no one else got that. That girl is poison....ous!
You should put Tundra Rhino in.
It's been only a few days so it's hard to know what the meta decks become, but it's already looking much more promising with a great variety of decks, Un'Goro AND pre-Un'Goro decks. Goes to show much of a bust MSG was. Instead of 9 individual classes with multiple possible deck builds, there was only Jade, Pirate, Reno just a few days ago.
What's with Trump's fascination with Rava Runt? It's conditional and the adapt is seldom impactful.
Sean Spencer because sometimes that card wins the game
Oolol is oSean Spencer po
rhino is realy good in this deck because you can use it with the raptors as a boardclear and because you can instantly trade the raptors you dont risk over drawing with stampede etc
You should put in that card that draws the rest of your deck. Play it after you complete the quest then your whole deck will be raptors and you have a full board for 3 turns
20:16 nice 14/10 mana cristal
I was lucky enough to open this quest and one stampede
Lol "beat by my own deck." YOu the man!
In my opinion normal Mid-Range Hunter got a lot stronger with this expansion. Jeweled Macaw, Raptor Hatching, Crackling Razormaw and Volcanosaur are great replacements for what was rotated. Golakka Crawler is in simply to kill Swashbucklers as well for now.
do you think dire wolf alpha would work in this deck? I got it from a Jewel Macaw, and it worked wonder in that game
I can't wait for someone do show me the proper build for the shaman quest. I'm waiting to see how what the pros use for burst and how to maintain a good board state.
justin garia go check wowhobbs he made a shaman quest video and it looked pretty good
Trump seemed embarrassingly wrong about his card predictions
Looooot of bad decisions were made in this video. Annoyed me a bit seeing him dismiss Quest Hunter as viable after the way he built that deck. Half his deck filled with one drops just to get the quest off easier combined with no Jungle Hunter to clear the trash later, and no Tundra Rhino, which MAKES the deck.
Indeed, pissed me the fuck off, Trump is bad at building this deck for sure, makes me question why hes a so called "Pro".
Personally I don't see this deck taking off too much, there's a lot of taunt minions this meta that the (1) mana cards have to deal with, with handlock and Quest warrior being two pretty big decks showing up that focus on cheating with taunts
The hunter quest reward is not that insane and shouldn't really be your primary focus to complete. If you have Rhino or Starving Buzzard or Stampede then the 1-mana 3/2 raptors are good.
I predict that future hunter decks will run the quest as a secondary objective rather than primary.
Shouldn't you include a tundra rhino? Wouldn't that be the combo finisher?
at 20:15 Trump has 14/10 mana?
23:02
Did he just sing a Bell Biv DeVoe song? That came out of the blue.
YES MAKE HUNTER GREAT AGAIN! I dream of the day I can play control hunter.
I wonder who allowed Queen Carnassa to give birth to 15 raptors. Was it the king Mosh or Dred from Un'goro or King Krush from the other expansion or maybe who knows Carnassa was in a relationship with Ultrasaur or Charged Devilsaur
ravasaur runt is good in discolock with 4 mana 4/4 destroy a friendly minion and adapt twice
"I was just baiting people into playing handlock" Trump 2017
Me- :'( attending warlock's funeral in 2017
Genzo sits in the front seat whispering I'll see play for the both of us just you wait.
At 20:14 there is a glitch and Trump's mana gets set to 14.
How does Trump not put Tundra Rhino in the deck? It makes perfect sense!
lol i can't get i how is ginzo better than tandra rhino in this deck you can secure 26 damage in one turn from tandra rhino!!! (it make it OTK deck) gotta love trump
He is just a stupid noob
heyyyy, that's pretty good
whoops wrong channel
heyyyy, that's pretty value
You should be running dinomancy and two calls of the wild and more one drops
Trump's face when he gets a win is hilarious.
Hey Trump, I just realised: elemental mage deck (with Pyros) + N'zoth? even without molten reflection, that's a lot of power potential!
maybe you could experiment a little with the idea?
I have seen many hunters in ranked didn't play quest. There are many good new beasts in the expansion. I think people will just play beast hunter instead.
20:17 Trump has 14/10 mana
20:18 14/10 mana crystals
So how is that 1 star rated rogue quest working out?
12:47 "That's murloc it"
Trump going back on his shaman quest rating, scandalous.
Why not to play tundra rhino in this deck?
>deck entirely built around one drops
>can't play a one drop on turn one
archetype was doomed to fail from the start
23:00
That hunter just ate a poisonous cat and didn't die. Literally unplayable.
20:15
why does trump have 14 mana ?
20:12 watch Trump's mana crystals, it goes up to 14/10 when his opponent concedes
What's more dangerous, one giant angry dinosaur or 15 smaller vicious ones? ... answer = Clever Girl!
"That girl is poisonous~" Haha!
Dinomancer is a lot of fun hope you give it a chance sometime, Trump.
I aspire to be one day be like trump and just craft whatever card I don't have while making a deck
Well that's neat. Mana went up to 14/10 @20:17
Pause at 20:16
why does trump have 14 mana at 20:15
WoooW! So enthusiastic in the thumbnail trump...😑
How do I get this quest? I don’t have any quests but I do have all of the cards to pull this deck off
Trump, not sure if this has been mentioned before, but do you think ravasaur runt is better in this deck than say, a scavenging hyena?
just had a rogue return queen carn to my hand ... twice lol so many raptors...
Needs more Dire Frenzy, to make it 21 raptors and 6 of them boosted.
Buzzard works good with the raptors or just any one drops left in the deck though maybe stampede is better. I will admit Trump built a way better version than I did
I find it funny alot of people complaining about rogue quest because i've only lose to it 3 times where i won against it various times using different decks, aggro/zoo deck shit on it, control deck also easily win against it. Midrange deck might still have a chance depending on who have a better draw. Shaman quest also easily beat it, rogue quest just doesn't have any early impact so you just spam minion and shit on it and kill him even after he get 5/5.
Is this the deck that lost miserably to amaz?
U should try my hunter deck, dred, bloodmage, leeroy, and deathstalker all in one