Dark Souls 3 Lore | The Tragedy of Gundyr
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- Gundyr, the Betrayed? Gundyr of the Lothric Bloodline? Find out in this Rekindled video of one of my first lore videos ever!
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The biggest tragedy is how many ripostes the poor guy ate. So many parries.
Parry yes. Reposte? I never could do that, thought it to be impossible
What is the song at the end? Can someone give me a link please?
*shows up to bonfire cant light it 4 no reason* bruh
ניק פטייב yes you can reposte champion gundyr after the parry
He can kick shit out of you at his past self if you dont know how to parry tho.
Think of Gundyr’s first thoughts in this game, as you climb from your grave and stumble towards firelink he sees you, the one who bested him and damned him to servitude, and you have no idea yet who he is.
Gundyr- You took everything from me
Ash- I don't even know how you are
Kind of like the last giant in ds2 you fight him later on but in the past
just imagine getting clapped in your prime, and getting clapped once again after your death
At that point, wasn't it too late?
Fire keeper: “Have I told you the tragedy of Champion Gundyr,Ashen one?”
"I thought not. It's not a story the Sunbros would tell you. It's a Firekeeper legend. Champion Gundyr was an Ashen One so powerful and so wise that he could use the flame to create... poise ."
"cast ironic"
“Is it possible to learn this power?”
@@Bigfrogfan1 Not from a hollow
I was searching for this.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Champion Gundyr the wise? I thought not. It's not a story the firekeepers would tell you. He was a ludex so powerful and so wise that he could manipulate weird demon shit to get a giant black arm and glowing red eyes. He could even manipulate noobs so harshly to the point of them quitting the game forever. Til one day, unfortunately, someone who'd already played the game on another character parried him to oblivion not once, but twice.
A tragic tale
Ironic.
Is it possible to learn this power?
@@Swarkyishome Not... From a firekeeper...
This is a reference to something and I need to know what it is
Why make him part of royal family ? I could easily see him as someone from outside who would be fed a pile of lies like you said. He even got a kingly armour to make him feel special. Why would you waste a good heir when even Lorian was spared from being sacrificed more.
Lorian want spared. He wasn't fated to link the flame, as the one fated to was lothric. That's the poetry of their lore. One is worthy, yet not fated, and the other is fated, yet not worthy.
Lorian and Lothric were twins. Lothric was the one that was meant to link the flame bit he ended up being weak and fragile.
As for Gundyr, he was the one to link the flame after Lothric. It is seemingly a royal family duty. So it makes sense to why we consider him as part of the royal family.
@@wanderingbufoon I don't recall any mention about order of linking. All we know is Gundyr came late to the festivities and failed to meet his fire keeper. Also we fight him in untended gardens which seem to be a version of world when no bell did yet toll which would suggest Gundyr lived actually long before Lothric as he is at his prime at that point of time. Another proof it is a time from the past is the dialogue with old lady selling all the things. If we talk to here first in dark version, she then recalls us in normal firelink shrine
@@Kr10n1 you can get it via context. Theres a religion about Frampt and as to why it became a tradition for the Lothric family to link the flame.
Gundyr was suppose to be its champion. I see no reason why he wouldnt link it since he was brought about to the world that Lothric abandoned.
@@wanderingbufoon All very well but there is no link between Gundyr and Lothric. To the contrary, his armour description states it resembles old king, and it turn out that it's very similar to king from demon souls. That's all context I know off.
Last time I was this early the Ancient Dragons and Archtrees still ruled the Earth.
Yes indeed...
I knew about the dragons but trees?
@@nunyabusiness168 check out the ash lake area from dark souls 1
I heard that in early works of DS3 Iudex Gundyr was actually King of Lothric and you were
supposed to fight him where you fight Oceiros. That is even more evidence that the armor Iudex is wearing is indeed modeled from Oceiros.
Ohhh, that is very interesting! =]
Oh yes, more lore please
Nice addition in giving the NPCs voices to best show how they felt in those dark moments.
Gundyr arrives at shrine.
Firekeeper: "Mr. Gundyr... I don't feel so good..."
oof dude oof
that ending though.
Digital Sensei bro it hurt..
Did you just break my heart with a dark souls boss..
You must not know the tale of artorious and sif.....lol
@@joeypatton5691 he is just commenting. get off this guy's back.
You didn't mention the pus of man growing on Gundyr's back, which he then transforms into.
Did it start growing as a result of the stagnation of humanity, since Gundyr has been waiting for a very long time for a worthy unkindled? Or is it somehow connected to Oceiros, which you suggested being his father, since you can find those enemies in the Consumed King's Garden? Is the pus of man an experiment of Oceiros trying to make a dragon since these beings are very similar to dragons/serpents? Did Oceiros, and so the royal family, somehow made him grow the pus of man through experiments to enforce his role of judge, so that they would be sure whoever beated him was worthy and had the strength to link the fire? The pus of man is in fact weak to fire, and it represents humanity, the age of man, opposed to the age of fire.
Notable then that pus of man enemies seemingly only exist in areas of Lothric. One in the High Wall, four around Lothric Castle and two in the Consumed King’s garden. Gundyr is the only enemy with the pus of man not found in the Lothric Castle areas.
Seeing as the Pus of Man was also apparent on those dragons on Lothric Castle, perhaps Oceiros was doing experiments trying to somehow harvest drake-ness with the Puss of Man, and infecting people with it thus trying to transfer said drake-ness.
@@MartijnTV I'm with you in this idea. The ties of the pus of man to Lothric are STRONG.
I think he impaled himself to stop the spread. It is weak to fire, so the firelink sword would indeed be effective. After you remove the sword, the pus is able to take control.
Maybe Gundyr is Ocelotte?
It be 2020 and we still darksoulsing!!! I love that you touch on lore never before explored. Great quality video too.
Omg pls make a Midir and Shira lore video. You have such a good lateral eye
So, something like this? ;)
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Honestly a few days ago was my first time playing dark souls 3 i was running through the whole not really caring just killing. When i came across this place its the first time i felt like I'm doing something, unearthing secret history. The revelation of the eyes once i gave them to the Fire keeper hit me right in the gut and for the first time I actually cared about this world and then realizing the cycle has to end even tho my happiness just started...what cruel fate
The Lothric bloodline is only a feature of this particular age of fire. They would not have existed in the previous age that Gundyr is a relic of. True, there are surviving entities that persist from previous ages such as Patches, but that entails surviving and not hollowing through the entire age of dark. (Way to go Patches. He survived ALL of the dark ages) So for this theory to be true, we must assume that Lothric's bloodline not only survived at least one age of dark, but also that they failed to link the fire before the princes were ever born. There are too many assumptions here with little evidence to support. It also breaks the narrative, as the Lothric bloodline is said to have made its name by linking the fire. That means potentially this age of fire could be the longest there has ever been thanks to their efforts. Doesn't make a lot of sense for them to fail before this age ever gets started.
A good theory, but Gundyr so far seems to be yet another relic of the thousands of cycles that came before. A man from a kingdom whose name is just as irrelevant as any.
It is possible that the events in the Untended Graves aren't taking place during an Age of Dark, but that the entire ordeal is due to the lack of light.
The "Repair" sorcery states that "Light is time, and the reversal of its effects is a forbidden art". We also know that Oceiros, in his infatuation with Seath, went mad with knowledge, outright turning himself into an imperfect dragon. Perhaps, in his madness, he stole the light from the Graves, dooming the entire area to stagnation.
The king of Old Gundyr's helmet is modeled after is probably an old, or maybe even the first, king of Lothric.
Just a bunch of theories, of course, but I believe it's worth considering them.
“Where I pronounce Gundyr correctly”
That’s not how you pronounce Gundyr, it’s Goon-deer.
It’s clearly a Germanic-inspired name, so Gun would be pronounces similar to rune and Dyr the same as the god Tyr.
Just checked the original video, you pronounced it perfectly there.
I always pronounced it Gun-deer
jon lopez
Common mistake.
@@jonlopez8276 thats because its the way to say it
I guess it depends on if you’re pronouncing Tyr like tear (drop) or tire
I suspect that gundyr May have been sent to firelink shrine some time before twin princes betrayed the flame and in his journey to get to the shrine they then chose to stop linking the fire after being persuaded by the pontiff and then may have sent the black knights there to “extinguish the flame” in order to stop gundyr from getting closer to link it, this also gives us a somewhat specific timeframe as to when the people were infected with the oil monsters, my theory for those is that they evolve into the butterfly’s they are shown to be able to posses great knights like dragon slayer amour.
(I’d like to see others opinions on this)
Gundyr, maybe close to royal family, sent to guard but told to link the fire, arrives to find nothing at the shrine, there never was anything there for him, all he had was the job of being at the shrine, betrayed by the royals he wasn't special or strong, defeated by an ashen champion, then replaced with a puss of Man controlling the suit like the butterflies did with dragon armour, Gundyr isn't alive in present, just a shell with no ember encasing a mindless blob.
If the encounter with Gundyr is only meant to embolden an ashen, then we could say that the main ashen is also tricked like Gundyr was, since likely Ocierus created them, he loves dragons, and dragons don't want the fire, and humans reign in the darkness.
Maybe Gundyr is Ocelot, the failed Dragon baby, cast aside and given this cruel fate.
ULTIMATEGOOSE that’s also a pretty interesting theory
Just think, if you beat Soul of Cinder, then go back into the untended graves, and kill Champion Iudex with the firelink greatsword that you make from the soul of the lords, you are essentially stabbing the very sword into him that condemned him to his fate in the first place.
4:10 There are ingame statues of a previous king in Lothric that somewhat match the design of Gundyr. I assume it must be a statue of Oceiros before he was consumed since they are found in the Grand Archives. It's kind of similar to how Pontiff Sullyvahn is with the statue at the plaza with the winged knight, I think it could be a similar circumstance.
This video deserves to be at the least 41 seconds longer, so it would attain an algorithm boost!
Great work, marvelous how there's still more lore! Great execution (pun intended)!
Thanks, buddy! Means a lot! =D
The end of this video made me wish there was way more dialogue and especially boss dialogue in this game
"OCELOTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!"
it'd be great if he actually became a guide/teacher for the new undeads.
like: alright maggot, get ready. if you can't beat me how can you hope to link the fire?
So since champion gundyr gives you his soul when you defeat him in the past, are the souls iudex gundyr gives you everyone he’s defeated once he’s been impaled? And is it because he lost his own soul that we see him taken over by the pus of man in iudex gundyr’s fight?
I liked gundyr as one of my first favorite bosses, mostly because I was a newb who didn’t know how to parry, but I always loved this boss. Btw I mean the champion one not the tutorial.
Gundyr will always be a champion in our hearts
man i have to say : damn good Channel , it's good to see that the dark souls lore comunity is not gone
Gundyr: its over ashen one, I have the poise
Ashen one: you underestimate my r1 spam
Gundyr: Don't try it
Is it really “gun-dur”? I always thought it was “gun-deer” because of the y in his name.
K A T Z it is gun-deer
Heh. Gun deer. Bang. Meat. Heh.
He is just butchering names for memes
I mean as far as I'm aware, it's an archaic version of Gunther, and since we will never TRULY hear archaic english, it's really up for speculation. Today we see the name only in writing, never spoken.
Idk about fancy pants Latin stuff but a "yr" at the end is pronounced "ur", for example, the word "martyr" is pronounced "martur" not "marteer"
Is Gundyr Ocellotte? If he's part of the family, he'd be the only "missing" child. Ocellotte was thought to be powerful enough to link the flame. Just an idea....
It's certainly interesting to consider! =D
Gundyr is the best tutorial boss of the souls series
Thanks Jake ! Couldn't sleep so this is just what I needed . Keep em coming
Holy shit! You just went and made my favourite boss in the series gameplay wise into being my favourite boss overall gameplay and lore
He was supposed to be the chosen one
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE, GUNDYR!
7:33 when you get out of the shower but your family already left
The voice he added to Gundyr was incredible
And homoerotic
Ah yes,
The Tragedy of Champion Gundehr.
Kskskskdkskskskkskaksks
Would have been nice to be able to choose champion gundyr as a co-op partner imstead of fighting him and have him help you defeat the lords,
That ending was so heart breaking
This means that gundyr is only level 1 imagine of he passed level with a fire keeper bro he would be the goat even our character couldn't beat him
Basically he thought he was the ashen one because of his family only to find out he wasn't. So now his new purpose was to test who's worthy of becoming one to end the undead curse
Someone needs to tell gundyr there's a fire keeper like 50ft behind him now if he wants to go say hello and help link the flame
One thing I wonder is champion gundyr is in a optional area like we don’t have to go there if we choose not to
So say if you play through the game and don’t go there then who would have slayer gundyr if not us someone else would of had too or it would change the past
(Then again I’m the “cannon” ds 3 ending you are required to go there to get the fire keeper eyes so I guess it’s expected in cannon that you’d go there)(cannon in quotations)
I've enjoyed watching your channel grow, and your talent for storytelling from your perspective of the souls games is very enjoyable. Thank you, and keep going strong my man.
🤔 you know since the untended graves is Gundyr’s future but our past, I’ve began to pick up a few thoughts:
When you start the game there’s a coiled sword placed within him basically killing/diminishing the darkness inside of him, when we get to the past though there isn’t any Reminence of a sword....... could it have been the past ashes which fell before him and only the last ash before us actually successfully immobilizing him before his own death?
It seems plausible because when we pull the sword out of him present day he is still alive or atleast the monster is anyway and like you mentioned, we were the true ash to become what gundyr strived to be yet wasn’t destined to be that, so we end his suffering.
Also i feel since everyone parished in gundyr’s time, that the fire wasnt linked but was instead (as the second ending implies & the eyes you find of the dead firekeeper) used to put the world into complete darkness, i think those specific eyes we picked up are the reason the firekeeper in our time decided to put the world back into complete darkness, i think the past firekeepers vision from her eyes is what made the present firekeeper do so.
Lol i know im probably late as hell but i found it interesting
If we're assuming Gundyr's armor came from any Dark Souls king then imo the face looks like a dead wringer for Vendrick. He's got the crown, that dejected look familiar with undead, he was one of the greatest human kings in Dark Souls, and the neck armor looks like his fuzzy ass beard
Ok, Oceries is now a mandatory kill on every playthrough after what he did to my boi Gundyr.
me when i see an elk with a firearm:
"Gundyr"
I think the king Gundyr's helmet is based off of is most likely the Ivory King, though it could work aswell, Oceirus wouldve had Gundyr think that he was as mighty as the Ivory king, maybe he didnt tell Gundyr that the Ivory king was consumed by the fire
Gundyr's halberd looks very similar if not identical to the winged knight halberd, enforcing his connection to lothric
Dancer isn't part of family as we know 🤔
Oceiros's wife is very similar, or the very same, to Gwynevere. They are both a goddess of fertility.
However, the Queen has gone missing recently. And the fate of Gwynevere is speculatable. Two characters in this game possess the possibility to be Gwynevere, The Dancer and Rosaria, because they both have lost and powerful restorative miracles transposed from their souls.
I think I'm forgetting a detail that basically confirms which one has to be Gwynevere... but the blue cloth and gold details are still symbols of Lothric Royalty and the Dancer does have them.
Nice little movie at the end there! Didn't expect that :) For a long time, in my head-canon the Lord of Cinder shoved that coiled sword in Gundyr's chest, attempting to make him into a bonfire. Rumor has it something like this was going to be an implemented mechanic, planting the coiled sword wherever thou wishethsth, wishish, withisht, wtvr. But outside of this meta-shoutout to what could've been. I think the betrayal can be further elaborated on by the presence of that "coincidental" invader npc, Daughter of Crystal, Krimheld, who happens to be a member of the Black Hand; and happens to be conspicuously wearing a firekeeper set, which I think she stole from her mark.
Long time sub ,glad your back doing what you do best 👍
The music and voice acting was kinda weird tbh! Great lore tho!
I'm just looking for that last song, I want to hear all of that beautiful piece
I wish Gundyr wasnt Parry-able. Parry makes the Boss soo easy.
Just Go Back and keep distance until he does the Jump Slash and Parry, repost and give Full Hell to the Poor dude
I never thought about him like that before and I feel so bad for him.
I watched your video about the Nameless King being the firstborn son of Gwyn, it doesn't make sense to me that Havel (Who betrayed the gods) would go after the Firstborn son to kill him. Because as you said the Firstborn son also betrayed the gods, it would make far more sense to me that Havel would seek out the Firstborn for help or for advice to take down the gods.
I watched Hawkshaw's video about Dark Souls.
in my opinion, the unknown fighter who bested him is the sword master, he is the only summonable for gundyr and damn is he strong the first time i see him in early games. Also in the time where he was defeated, we werent even there so i think its the dry ass lemon sword master. Its all my opinion and ur video is amazing! Thanks you
What's with the big sarcophagus under the big tree in his boss arena? It seems significant in some way.
Always appreciate your take on things. Great video
Nobody ever talks about Gundyr's lore so this is a surprise but a welcome one to be sure.
Have you heard of the tragedy of Champion Gundyr? I thought not, it’s not a story the Lothric bloodline would tell you. It’s a firekeeper legend...
I think they're trying to impress that gundyr is more ancient than the lothiric line. His armor design seems to be from a completely different time period and possibly culture. Maybe vendrick, maybe Gwyn, or someone in between. The style looks ancient, even rock like, it evokes havels armor. The fact that is armor is cast iron is strange, it's either a mistranslation or suppose to indicate a lower quality or ancient method. You would never cast iron to make armor, it'd be brittle as shit. Cheap and easy to make on mass. So maybe that's insinuating that the armor was made in a time before forging. but on the other hand, it would be difficult and absurd to produce cast armor that has intrinsic detail which makes me think back again to it being a mistranslation. He's not the only character who's armor is said to be cast iron, which like I said, cast iron would make a terrible armor for anyone in any period
I don't think Gundyr was ever late. Something tells me someone intended for the flame to die, because the Firekeeper had eyes, so someone in the family must've given them to her. It's like someone wanted the flame to die before Gundyr got there, and all of the stories of "The Champion arriving late" is a fabrication within the lore that was spread so far that all the people believed it. "History written by the victor" type thing.
But what doesn't make sense is, if the goal of this Grand Betrayer is to find the REAL champion to make sure the flame doesn't die, then why let it die in the first place? Why would they even give the Firekeeper those eyes?
Perhaps it was the Queen aka Gundyr's mother who betrayed the entire family. I think everyone in the family truly believed Gundyr was to be a Champion, and though Gwynevere is a Goddess of Sunlight, the pain of what King Oceiros was doing to his family with his mad experiments was too much for her and after the birth of Ocelotte she left. This means that she betrayed Gundyr by giving the Firekeeper the eyes, but still loved her son and watched over him and the graves, snuffing the pain of that world out, and letting her son be a judge for the True Champion of the Flame to come.
Noone likes to point out that Ludex Gundyr doesnt give you a boss soul, but Champion gundyr does
What's the last thing the Queen says at the end?
It sounds like varianox but I don't that's what she actually said.
Vereor Nox! =]
@@TheAshenHollow Ah, thank you. I get the reference now.
Im not crying
You never cease to amaze me brother
Thank you, kind gentle sir! =D
6:14 refers to Gwyn, too.
His golden armlets and anklets are supposed to resemble Shackles.
my English is very bad, so I will write as soon as I can
I think a piece of chain refers to the fact that Gundyr was in the Irithil dungeons. the Pontiff is conducting his experiments there. Gundyr became the Pontiff's test subject. He was sent to the Consumed King's garden, where he was infected with the "abyss" (its second stage in Untended Graves) which then turned into pus of man. but I don't fully understand the concept of Untended graves. why is the passage there in the Oceiroses room? is it just a memory, or is it some kind of copy of the past recreated in the garden of Oceiros? could the Pontiff or Oceiros to send the infected champion in this "copy" specially?
Just learned that the first part of his name, when we fight him at the start of the game, Iudex means judge in Latin. Judge Gundyr. It makes sense since he is supposed to judge a champion worthy enough.
That was such a cool beginning to the Game, the coiled sword right there--
Bro I need that banger outro song pronto
Damn, this video is one of the best!
Can you do one for Slave Knight Gael?
I did a cinematic story for Gael! Does that count? =D
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@@TheAshenHollow Yeah, thanks.
It's a terrible day for rain...
I just finished the game and it was fucking great one of the goat.
Now for my theory.
-Untended graves is in the past for some reason is being consumed by the abyss
-its probably gundyr failed to link the fire hence late to the festivities or his literally "late" and the festivities could also means gathering which what we did in the firelink shrine . He also fail to meet the firekeeper which doesnt says for the first time it could mean he just failed to complete his task to link the flame and he took the sword to stop the abyss from sinking in him but as we see him in the present he was infected.
Now i think that the firelink shrine is an illusion made by someone like the ds1 anor lomdo and the ds3 ringed city and the eyes of the first firekeeper is not a prophecy but a vision to see through the illusion that linking the flames = good.
Now for the first fire keeper eyes.
It doesnt mean that the corpse there is the first firekeeper its possible that she just got it from somewhere cause she cant be the first fire keeper as there are already five throne which means that its not the first cycle since gwynn light up the flame.
Now for ludleth of courland. (This is just mostly assumption)
Courland is the ring city as its the home of the pygmy lord i read somewhere that he call himself pygmy and it just a translation interpretation and he also looks like one of the pygmy lords. now whos keeping the ring city afloat? Gwynns daughter fillanore and thats why he always willing to sacrifice himself to the flame.
More questions
whos doing the illusion for the firelink shrine?
Suspect 1 yurya so she can get anri??
Number 2 handmaiden? Well she got motive as she can be one of gwynns underling or she is a former firekeeper is she blind? Looks like one of the hags in ds 2 which are firekeepers. And if she is she might as well be the first firekeeperand its a ruse. As if.
Sorry for the long post and bad english. i tried.
It is said Gundyr was defeated by an unknown champion, it doesn't mean it could be the ashen one. Since Champion Gundyr is an optional boss, it is unclear wether it is the Ashen one who defeated him in Untended graves. Although, i have a possible theory, could be wrong, but during the cinematic at the beginning of the game, we can inherently see Soul of Cinder dragging a corpse, unknown who but it is noticably feminine. Moreover, we also do recognize that we could pick up the eyes of a firekeeper in Untended graves, so ultimately, the firekeeper is obviously dead or possibly killed. "When the link of fire is threatened, the bell tolls, unearthering the old lords of cinders from their graves..." Who rang the bell, you may ask, when the fire is threatened, it self, as a curse of Gwyn's, will attempt to collect more souls to fuel it. So apparently the soul of cinder was manifested when the fire was greatly in danger. Even before the bell tolls, Lordran was dark as the first flame was fading. In addition to that, the bell of awakening is located on top of the firelink shrine, so there are probabilities something/someone had to travel there to ring it. Undoubtedly, who would be the first one to ring it? Obviously the Soul of Cinder, it's even coherently potraited in the cover of the game, he was roaming around in Lordran. Last evidence, the coiled sword is literally an option of weapon the Soul of Cinder would use, thus represents day clear trace of the Soul of Cinder. With all of those evidence, we can safely assume, the Soul of Cinder was the one who rung the bell, and was the champion who encountered Gundyr because he was in his way.
I think that the normal firelink is actually just in future(meaning untended is technically present)
I always thought he was Ludleths personal champion. What if he is modeled after one of the king's from Dark Souls 2?
there's actually a lot of kings he forgot to mention lmao. There's plenty of kings in the dark souls universe that we know of, such as the old iron king, the ivory king, the four kings, king jeremiah, etc. I don't wanna be pedantic cuz I do agree he's linked to lothric but he said we only knew of 2 kings in the dark souls universe which is simply not true lol
@@JigglyBooties i believe you're into something friend.
One thing of note with his halberd, it has a very similar design to the ones used by knights of Eleum loice (masterful spelling on my part)
There’s a bug if you shoot him with an arrow right when you pull the bonfire sword it breaks his ai so you can whale on him without fear of being attacked back
I'd love to hear the song on it's own seems like good chill music while playing dark souls
I really love your videos!
Thank you! That means a lot! =D
Hey jake, remember when you made speculation about gwindolin and the moon ? Can i ask you why you haven't talked about the gs of judgement? It says its sorcery is far more close to the moon than any existing lunar power
biggest tradegy yet, gundyr is still my favourite boss
Epic video, great work
0:35 so the flameless shrine is in the past? So thats why Gundyr gets weaker as time goes on
I did see a comment saying "we are also his first and last bossfight but as he failed we succeeded"
3:10 Dayum Lorian and Lothrics eldest brother sounds cool also is the lothric family related to Gwyns family? Nvm it is a theory that gwynevere is Lothric and Lorians mother and Ocieros's wife
4:30 dayum So gwyneveres and ocieros's son?
Well he is a Champion, he can kick you out of Lothric.
It occurs to me. If gundyr was indeed the child of the lothric royal family, gundyr got stabbed through the heart, because he was too late, the lothric royal family gives love, a bad name.
Bro I really felt that :(
The real tragedy of gundier is how many times have i no hited him
So what the shits with the illusionary wall behind the consumed king? I might have missed it.
Forgive my ignorance but, I'm not sure I fully understand this. If Gundyr arrived too late, how is it that we arrive later than him, yet, on time for the bell to toll?
Either because it's a completely different bell, meaning a separate call to link the Fire again, or the whole thing was an elaborate ruse played on Gundyr. Or both!
I subscribed just noe. Thank you for the lore!
i didnt know that the dancer of the boreal valley was of the lothric family
No way haha. You say Gundyr correctly, take my fucking sub my guy! You’ve earned it.
Miss these days
Great Job man