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Rise of the Art-Right | with Gio Pennacchietti
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
- Gio Pennacchietti (@GiantArtProductions) is an artist, critic, and internet anthropologist immersed in the "right wing" / "dissident" network of anons, cranks, and content creators. In this calmvo, he schools me about such things as "frog twitter" "theorycels" and why Canada is so... well, Canadian. Find links to all his work and online goodies here:
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Giocels assemble
That's the old name. We are Giochads now
Reporting
We're Boycels here.
@@cyberninjazero5659 yes
@@Rasenganplanet- if only there was real reporting in Canaduhh.. 📰 🗞️
Wow. What an erudite, articulate & delightful young man. Riveting.
Very much so!
A splendid chap indeed
Gio desperately trying to explain frog twitter without reference to frog twitter terminology is so precious. Very nice.
I can really relate to Gio's unique and lonely niche. I too have politics and interests that put me in the 0.001% of potential overlap.
Too true 😢
Same. I still like surrealism and various other types of art and music most right wingers abhor. Still not a Pollock fan but I understand the intent. I guess that's why I retain the classical liberal label despite having many disagreements with that ideology.
This was so great! As an old, I love getting to know what’s happening with young people. Thank you, Benjamin and Gio! 🙏🙏
A veritable fez dispenser of based wisdom.
Benjamin: i have no idea what we are gling to talk about.
Gio: Excellent
I've been following Gio for years and it's amazing to see him on your channel, Mr. Boyce. This was a fantastic conversation. Gio may not be a zoomer but the way he speaks is so relatable and accessible to me, an old zoomer. And his takes are great. I aspire to one day possess an intellect like his. Also, St Augustine "Let me be a coombrain for a little bit!" had me crying
Really, really cool interview, thank you B.B. ❤
Speaking as a sculptor working in contemporary realism for over thirty years, there are some artists whose work falls into abstract that I admire, but Pollack's work has a contrived following. He painted noise that looked like bad textile designs, pure trash, disposable with a multi million dollar price tag thanks to to corrupt fine art brokers. There are ways to use realism and still convey abstract or contrarian (according to current culture) themes that are subtle and nuanced. Truly great art is not just aesthetically intriguing but it carries an underlying concept that is compelling.
Also, speaking as a man old enough to be the father of Gio or his contemporaries, conversations like this keep me connected to world as it changes and younger generations emerge with their own societal niches in which they communicate and form coalitions around shared ideals. Many of the references to particular persons went over my head, but I found the talk worthwhile and engaging.
WHO IS THIS GUY lol damn I just love Benjamin's show. I've been introduced to so many awesome thinking people
Ben should be more famous. He isn't. Ben really goes underdog with his guests. He can be obtuse or acute. You'll never know. He honestly has never failed to bring guests that brighten his listeners. His net is wide. Plus he's different. He should get more press.
I love gio, where gio goes, I go.
Since "Alt-right" is, according to the left... anyone to the right of AOC, we can expect Gio to be an moderate conservative with a mix of basic liberal values mixed in. Welcome, Gio 🐈
yes he is sensible centrist v moderate good man
@@localuser190 ... I have no doubt. Just like 85% of all conservatives these days. I would have put that number at around 95%, just a half a dozen years ago, but the WOKE cult is absolutely driving more and more conservative to harder positions. This is just like EVERYTHING else the cult creates...
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"self-fulfilling prophecy"!
Because we are now living in a Maoist era, here in the West.
@@eddysgaming9868 .. The Marxist cult has twisted the liberal / Democratic party into its little pet. They TRULY believe that communism, just has not been done right yet and they are the ones to make it work!
Errrr.... That is probably a sound guess, but I'd say it's worth looking a bit deeper at this guy, the company he keeps and the ideas in that sphere. My estimation is that your guess is wrong.
Always love hearing from Gio
Gio is a friend, I've been on some shows with him/ had him on my channel. I'm one of the pillar members of the White Art Collective, mostly known for my documentary series IMPERIUM ART, interviewing influencers and artists in the White Identity struggle/ Dissident Right. If you and your viewers want to do a deep dive on the topic of the Art Right, here's is my link to the series (plus many other adjacent topics with important guests) czcams.com/video/-gCFvRUVEds/video.html
Cheers - I'll check that out
Lets go, GIO! 2 Sweet ;)
I'll go ahead and subscribe my eyeballs to his CZcams channel.
I highly recommend a binge session of "the complete Evergreen story".
We had a draconian left wing response to the anti"sacrament" protesters here in Victoria Australia, which included police firing rubber bullets on those wishing to travel more than 5km from their home. I think this opened the door to the anti hate speech laws which were passed here two years ago to shut down any protest against gender affirming care and SOGI in our schools. The kids were home schooled for 2 years so it didn't really affect us as much. I can't imagine a million marching 4 kids protest here right now, but all drag queen story times have been blocked by parents picketing those local governments wishing to host them. All levels of government and the churches in Australia have been ideologically captured by trans ideology, critical race theory and climate change obsession.
Although these laws and the political and media climate of shutting down free speech is difficult to live with because of the threat of jail, most of us still try to push the boundaries online. The online oppression of free speech therefore has a greater impact.
Gio is a very sharp guy, I am a great appreciator of his work.
Not alt-right - just right!
Not far-right - just right!
Not extreme-right - just right!
And being right is just much better than being wrong!
Nothing wrong with the far right though
1:56:15 To put a fine point on it, I would say perfectibility in the traditional or right-wing vision is, first, at least partially communal, because seeing pure individuality as a fiction, it recognizes the social nature of man; second, and a little redundantly, it recognizes that man HAS a nature, and therefore is not infinitely malleable. A final implication of this - comprising a third distinction - would be that, contrary to Progressive, libertine notions of "freedom", a classical vision of freedom had much more to do with the ability to pursue transcendence, based on liberation from vice and conformity to one's true Nature.
I'm glad you had Gio on. I've seen him interview before, and he's an interesting person with a lot of knowledge to share.
If this was live id be sneeding my stuporchats, but alas it's not 😢
One of my favorite discussions.
There are a lot of talented artists with conservative values or simply daring to disagree with the far left's extremism!!
Giochads RISE
Gio speaking right into my little soul, not having words for any of this nonsense whilst it was happening a few years ago. Thank you :D
Gio is a ray of sunshine. An insanely knowledgeable ray of sunshine.
Invite Gio on again!
Fine!
GIOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wow, I got so much out of this conversation. Thanks.
Us pop is currently estimated at 330 million
Wooow did not see this coming at all!
This was a great discussion 👍👍
“…Business is the best art“ - Andy Warhol
A dear friend of mine is a Muslim who belonged to Afghan refugees living in Iran, who were then persecuted and forced to flee Iran. He belongs to a group of Islamic poets who led a social revolution in Afghanistan and Iran for about 100 years. They also performed drama.
There are natural protests but ones that aren’t allowed are crushed (see truckers, see Jan 6). If you are an approved protest (blm, gay rights, feminism) that’s allowed and supported by the regime
Today I learned that I am a theorycel
Gio is great!
Oops I'm late ❤
My favorite art f-slur!
My favorite cat interactions. When they fight but with the least amount of effort.
I found this fascinating on so many levels, it has my mind humming. Wanting to check out
Walter Benjamin and John D. Ebert. Have Gio on again. Thanks, Mr. Boyce!
Hi Deborah🌹🌹
How are you doing?
Interesting title.
@🧺... I was called for jury duty in April 2020. The notice said masks were required in the court building. I called the county clerk and asked for a postponement of service, as I was not willing to wear a Covid mask. She extended my call for 6 mo. in "hopes" that the mandates would be over by then. Well, as we all learned... they were not! Turns out, that my extension was only 3 months, so I called again. Spoke to same lady and re-iterated my concern. She told me [essentially...] "Tough titty, you have to wear a mask".
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I told her again, that while I am sorry, this is NOT negotiable. I will show up at the court building and when the guards don't let me in, the court will need to find me in contempt, so come to my home and arrest me. I further said, that they would have to kick in my door and drag me away, but will STILL not wear a mask. I will not wear a mask to speak to a judge, nor will I wear one if put in jail. Most of this conversation actually happened via e-mail, but over the course of several, I made all the above points quite clear. I told her that this was a hill I was willing to die on and again... not negotiable. She said that a judge would have to make a ruling, so I said .."fine. Let me know what happens". She then forwarded ALL of my emails to the judge.
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Over the course of the next 4 weeks (my jury duty appearance was in like 5 weeks), I called a number of times and she said no word yet. By the last week, I had made arrangements with my brother to drive me to the courthouse, so that if I was arrested, my car would not be stuck in the parking lot and need to get towed. I never did hear from the judge, so I made that "after 5:00 PM call" the night before... and was excused.
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I am sure the judge was not willing to deal with the attention of throwing me in jail and watching me raise all holy hell over mandates, so excused me 😸
@@NinjaKittyBonks Wow. That's quite a story, kitty. You didn't bend the knee. Such a brave kitty. 💜
I'm very sad now. So, I think I'm going to lay down for a bit. But have a scritch on me.
@@helenablavatsky9136 ... Why sad, lil' bear 🐻The Kitty sends ❤to you: i.pinimg.com/originals/42/f7/15/42f71588b5f6d8bc4bb0ffcea32707b2.jpg
Nice work. Way to stand your ground. I have firm resolve to not comply to masking when the next round comes.@@NinjaKittyBonks
@@jonschmitt232 .... TY 🐈Being retired prior to 2020, I had a MASSIVE advantage to avoiding masking. That said, had I a job or something that required it or the jab, It would have needed to be ABSOLUTELY CATASTROPHIC to my life / family, in order to comply. The hypocrisy of mask usage in one place, while not in another or wearing one INTO a restaurant, but not once you sit down, was blatantly PROOF that it was all about virtue signalling and especially... _control_ !
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I despise being manipulated and the entire thing was all about getting people to comply.... makes me SICK, just to think about it all. To your follow up point, there is no question there was a push to go round 2, and it is possible they may push again, but WAY more people are just not gonna do that again. Some clearly will, as probably 3% have NEVER opted to stop wearing a mask.
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Hell, not two days ago, I was walking to the grocery store and waiting for the crosswalk light and what did I see...? A late 20's early 30's dude... driving a Prius alone... MASKED! What a F'ing TOOL that guy!
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Just goes to show why we call the leftist a cult, because they LITERALLY are!
Mediated Socialization is a beautiful articulation I heard here first.
Like like like
Abstract art on the right . I am visualising a Picasso Trump.
The great Gio!!
I wonder if Baudrillard would have liked Dark City.
An hour and a half in and he still isn't talking about art
Gio doesn't have a Baroque inspired Fez. Most disappointing. Let's hope he doesn't approve of pineapple on pizza.
If he does then he is no longer Gio. Just Go. You have to drop the I. Lol
🍍 🐽 🍕 racist insulting the native pizza of Hawaii! 😂
Found nobodytm refreshing
"all art is politically driven"
no it's not and I have no idea why this is such a common misconception among art critics/historians on the left and the right. You could make a tautological argument that all art has political effect in the world (as anything does), and _some_ art is politically driven. Not all, this assertion massively theorycel (thanks for the new word).
Based, and you should say it more. I'm tired of that rhetoric. You could say most art is for the sake of beauty, but these people want the beautiful to be political.
rightest artists, writers, critics etc need to band together and form a community and mvoement with its own concepts and language and market. the right is disengaged from art in general and "modern art bad, lord of the rings good" take are useless and boring
Gosh, so many tangents!
Great bibliography though
There is no balance of virtures with Aristotle. There is the persuit of manmanity.
Gioboyce victory
Is he saying that You Jenn Icks is a forbidden word on Ewe Toob?
I already knew about Gio from the show 'Break The Rules' here on CZcams, but I just thought he was Levs (the host of BTR) fat friend, not the ocean of knowledge that he really is!
good talk
I think he's describing Owen Benjamin in that last bit on negative consequences to being a right-wing dissident. Lol!! 😂😂😂
These *cels sound suspiciously like gnda identities
Humans gonna human
I find it so weird to hear the Italian "ch" being turned into the English "ch"! Ours is more like a k compared to the English one.
I respect Gio, but he's a new Canadian, so when he describes the "spirit" of our people, particularly around the concept of the frontier, I'm afraid he is entirely wrong and has no personal or cultural experience of what it is to be a heritage Canadian as I myself am who was raised to always think "frontier" and the West always represented that possibility. He is also likely unaware that it was the French explorers who mapped most of North America and that "idea" still resides in those of us who are French Canadians. Gio has no knowledge or experience with the French mind in Canada aside from Anglo propaganda about us.
We grew up with a saying in French that translates exactly to English, "Go west young man." Gio, it seems doesn't know that ost people who make up the West Coast of Canada hail from Quebec and Ontario.
I didn't know any of that either
All i know about french Canadians is that the ones I meet tend to be insufferable (no offense to you personally)
"go west young man, and grow with the country." Was a famous 19th century quote made by a New York newspaper editor. Perhaps your French frontier spirit is leading you a little off track, or maybe it is all Anglo propaganda.
English Canadian intellectuals before WW2 knew all of this.
It was the victory of Peason in 63 and the Americanization of the English Canadian elite (via Harvard) that severed EC intellectuals from their organic past and organic perspective, a perspective that included the FC point of view if not FC interests.
Well, said! If people do any research into the political or ideological direction of Canada particuarly under Trudeau Sr. they will find "Harvard" all over it.@@NorthernObserver
I did find this disappointing overall, guy seems perfectly amicable but in the end it was a bog standard listing of "Remember when the left did this bad thing" and the expected new-right talking points dressed up with abstruse vocabulary.
He lives in Canada? But his gf lives in USA?
Being on the right, Gio must have the reverse Canadian Girlfriend.
31:33 nice idea that the left politicises art, and right asteticises politics
Holy crap, what is with pseudo-intellectual podcasters and their penchant for making only a half-statement and then going off into three or four different directions or subsidiary references. Ya big cow, just say something, complete a thought and make it make sense. JFC.
I guess you'd have to read his writings for that
Some guys can't make a simple assertion without qualifying it twelve different ways.
What's it with rando commenters throwing around the term "pseudo intellectual" like insecure midwits?
Pseudo? All his many strings of thought are that, thoughtful.
The pro regime AI speaks.
what if this seemingly innocent attempt to frame art into communist and fascist poles is precisely how post modern left is maintaining status quo, and also is the cause of polarization?
Why is it so fat?
Hamilton.
It not his fault.
Will overcome.
As an American. The trucker protest in my opinion. Is viewed as morally pure. Canada is a people who always were good. From an American perspective. Thus, trucker protest. Is honestly good.
Gio is so beautiful. Just a life is full filling kind of guy. So pleasant. Benjamin. I am not a huge fan of interviews with de transition people. But I'm only saying that to say. That I can have opinions and still. With your alt right guests. Ya know what. I always say this. Ben your always gold. Your channel, the opinions, doesn't matter. Gold. Your channel has been a go to for fascinating conversations for a few years for me. If I'm cleaning my car or feeding my cats or scrubbing my toilet. I look you up. Don't take my de trans criticism to heart. Just because I don't vibe with junk. But just saying. You always go into the cool strange different stuff. Esoteric, meta beyond meta.
I have a few pods I listen to. I check out yours first