Called Out for Unpaid Debts on LiveStream
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2023
- Things get uncomfortable when Shaun & Doug put Brandon in the hot seat for unpaid debts.
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Cantu is an elite gaslighter
Obvious a big POS with a lot to hide.
He’s actually not very good at it at all lol he just looks stupid here
Cantù is a sociopath
Earlier in the session Cantù was begging to act as escrow for Hashtag vs Polk heads up. He definitely was going to steal that or take it as a loan with a 7 year payback plan 😂
Cantu coming hard w/the SMALL d ENERGY, 🤣!!!
Doug is the voice of reason here. If you owe someone money you owe them money. Not paying that money back is called stealing. It’s pretty straight forward. This Cantu guy knows this he’s just not used to people calling him out in front of others and it’s making him get defensive because he knows he’s wrong here. Nobody is taking your side Cantù.
There are extenuating circumstances. With that said, I'm talking about being a day or two late, maybe a week for whatever reason (and I'm probably giving them back more for the hassle if that were to happen). Any extended period of time a debt is out there is no good, but sometimes shit happens. The relationship you have with said person is relevant to the discussion.
I think he’s used to it. He wouldn’t be this well versed and ready to speak in circles.
If Mr A does not repay a bank loan he's not charged with theft tho.
Someone needs to whoop his azz really bad and teach em a fkn lesson in repaying debts! That’s probably part of the problem here no one has just smacked the living sht out of em until he’s begging.
@@GordonEngels Correct; Mr. A just filed for bankruptcy, discharged most of their unsecured debt, and ruined their credit temporarily. Frankly, it's not a bad deal if you're willing to deal with the credit hit for 7 years
Cantu is just the WORST lol, could not pay me to spend time with that guy
This is why i love deeb, dude keeps it real while being the ultimate troll
He is very consistent.
Cantu had a bad rep for a long time within the group but successfully shielded it from the general public
I'm with Doyle Brunson on this one. "These young guys talk too much at the table"
I'd have picked up my chips and left the table ages ago. Between "hashtag" and this, I haven't seen a more toxic table since the Helmuth v Persons heads up match
Kelly was the smartest one there
Phil says "Yup, he is ready for you." lmfao
What a Narcissist
Why do these people ever loan money to each other? lol
A lot of time it’s for home games. People play on credit etc and settle up at another time because people don’t want to have massive amounts of cash at one game (asking to get robbed). Other times it’s just because people have played together and think someone is good for it because they’re winning. And it can be tough to have cash at every room in the country.
Most of these loans go through without any issue whatsoever and you never hear about them. It’s just a part of high stakes because of people living in different places. But the ones that don’t go through well…. Well they really don’t go over well lmao
Have only small bags 😂
90% of the games we watch, the players don't have 100% of their own action. Almost all of them have backers or people staking them.
Only a dumbass would loan any type of gambler money, Deeb is notorious for stiffing people, pos
I love this.. there are some many scum bags in the poker community that lie cheat and steal.. call them all out every chance you get!!
Man Cantù, just say I was in over my head. I gambled beyond my means. I’m trying to dial it back and pay everyone back and let it go. He made himself sound so much worse. Also, poker needs people like deeb and polk calling out the guys that never pay there debts in a reasonable amount of time
Deflecting, projecting, excusing, he did9o practically everything he could do except take responsibility for his actions. Shameful
Polk has no right to call anyone out he never has! He’s always been a scumbag robbing his employees and other coaches in the scene with his training site! He had done that atleast 5 times when this all happened so dude has no fkn right calling anyone out. The fact that he still gets on CZcams and makes videos about anyone else for any fkn reason is just fkn pathetic. Polk is a pathetic piece of trash who has many fools believing he’s a great guy when he’s always been a fkn scumbag..
If anyone loans money to this Cantu character after this, he better not come whining later that the money wasnt paid back.
Elite deflection
Coming from someone in the poker streaming business, if poker night in america really wants to start seeing some progress in regards to viewership the production team should really work on updating the display (get rid of the border, find other ways to display hand information that isn’t so overbearing to the viewer).
Another note, the lighting needs to be brighter because it is very difficult to see stack sizes and the players’ faces, which is crucial for viewers to get the best experience.
Just wanted to give some suggestions, no bad faith. Great to see the lineups improving though, still love the show!
Thanks Johnny. Appreciate it and agree with you looking back on it now. (This stream is from 2017) We have been working on some new graphics packages that you’ll be seeing when we launch our new Studio52 stream which has been set up inside a Las Vegas mansion.
@@Pokernight My apologies then! Extremely busy and saw this pop up on my feed, figured it was new. I’ll have to keep in eye out for some more of the fresh content then. Keep up the great work guys!
@@JohnnyPeet all good, brother!
April 30 2023
Agree with above comments.
The overall transmission is dark and dull. That’s what turned me off about the stream.
From rmo of harlem nyc usa
The seedy underworld of poker lol
I watched the entire video and forgot that poker was being played.
Fly in Freddy Deeb to settle this matter!! Danny Divito"s twin :😢😮. Lol🎉
They're all sociopaths
I may be alone in this but I could watch this all day.
I think you are part of a very small crew. Listening to people talk over each other is maddening, so say the least...
We need a reunion with all the same guys on a stream again!😅
Trust me, the promoter of this live stream loved this...absolutely love this. Content, good or bad, that gets views is always the goal.
This is the first time this footage has been available since it aired. It was immediately pulled and wasn’t edited into any episodes either.
Facts
@@JesseAbramowitz yet, here it is now. Enough time to let it cool down a bit, but still will get all the clicks
People have been asking for this for a while. We’d hate to continue to sit on content that we could be sharing.
@@Pokernight Polk has no right to call anyone out he never has! He’s always been a scumbag robbing his employees and other coaches in the scene with his training site! He had done that atleast 5 times when this all happened so dude has no fkn right calling anyone out. The fact that he still gets on CZcams and makes videos about anyone else for any fkn reason is just fkn pathetic. Polk is a pathetic piece of trash who has many fools believing he’s a great guy when he’s always been a fkn scumbag..
all my loans to poker players has not turned out well. never benefitted with any of the loans. its like loan money and lose money.
This is the weirdest game. First a guy was insulting someone's wife, and no one did anything about it, and now this guy is talking about not paying people money he owes. What? Both situations used to justify having both your legs broken. Do you guys just put up with that shit today? It sounds like a bunch of girls playing poker.
I hung out with Cantù once and it was not a pleasant experience
we believe you
I don't think I've ever agreed with someone as much as I did Doug Polk at 8:51
This is tragic. Give your heads a wobble, kids. Much love.
when is this from?
Wow, I didn’t realize this Cantú was almost worse than Hashtag!!
Super bad vibe at this game. Winterhalter left *again* after getting bluffed by Bowker. Which is not what you want at the game. Polk properly calling out the bad sh*t… backed up by Dentale.
They shoulda just said “get this short-stack Cantú the f* outta here”
Cantu was already annoying trying to keep HashtagKing at the table for no reason
"Does the source have any children?" ... LOL
😂😂😂
Never loan anyone money.
I loan small amounts of money to people that I never want to see again.
@@sinatra222 🤣🤣
@@sinatra222 it's actually true lmao. 1 guy who bugs me everyday for a cigarette. Every single fkn day. He asked me to borrow 10$ for a bet 1 day, gave it to him. Man disappeared and now I dont have to be bothered by him when I'm on my break from poker. Haven't seen him in 2 weeks 😭. Amazing you can see somebody everyday and then not see em for 2 weeks. Hmmm. This is a grown 38 year old dude too. Just sad lol.
@@sinatra222 haha me too, pos people
Phil is part of the problem by enabling Cantu..
When was this aired?
Never aired. It was filmed in 2017 and then shelved indefinitely.
It's pretty gross this guy borrowed money, didn't pay people back. Then makes jokes about free rolling Shawn...I don't care how much of a douche someone is. If you borrow money from them you owe them that money back. I honestly feel bad for his wife and family that have to see this. Don't gamble money you can't afford to lose. Bottom line
We should have a scammers and scoflaws only poker game, cash only of course.
Did hashtags wire come through yet
Table talk like this takes all the fun out of poker
So this guy is like the Japanese guy Ruskye? He will be a ghost soon...
Why would you lend or play a game of chance with a degenerate gambler. Question your own behavior.
Did this just happen or is this from an old stream?
This stream occurred in 2017 and was pulled from the internet and tv episodes were not produced from the footage. We decided to share some footage now.
Whatever happened to giving a guy a good ole fashioned " beat Down " ? A tune up Trenton New Jersey style ? 😮
These guys couldn't knock a light out
lol cantu is mental
Dude borrowing money and not returning is the fastest way to get rid of someone in your life.
Either killing him
Or just accept that amount of money was enough to get a rat out of. Your life
I know ur poor nerdy ass didn’t type that
The pound sign King
Anyone who talks like this Brandon guy, doesn't need anyone else to put his family in "danger." I guarantee he does that enough on his own.
largest collections of douche bags I ever saw at a streamed poker game, particularly when hash-tag was in
I will come find you to pay if I owe you money. Specifically so no one can ever say some nonsense to me like Brandon has done.
Rich people problems 😂😂
I still have no clue why people lend money to anyone who gambles....the VERY BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU LEND MONEY IS THAT YOU BREAK EVEN
This is GREAT!! Love the livestream! We can see and hear what is really going on at the table! Cantu sounds like a bigtime loser!
Polk has no right to call anyone out he never has! He’s always been a scumbag robbing his employees and other coaches in the scene with his training site! He had done that atleast 5 times when this all happened so dude has no fkn right calling anyone out. The fact that he still gets on CZcams and makes videos about anyone else for any fkn reason is just fkn pathetic. Polk is a pathetic piece of trash who has many fools believing he’s a great guy when he’s always been a fkn scumbag..
He is helmouths best friend
After hearing and seeing this stream, Its a wonder Cantu isn't being pushed around in a wheelchair because he has 2 broken legs. 🤔
He shows up to an episode with a cast on his arm in a season 5 episode. Don’t know the origin. Just stating.
Some people’s kids🤦🏻!!
Never lend money… period
If your name is mud it is what it is
Omg.. what an awful game to play in
Didn't this happen like a year ago?
6
lets face it this is the only reason why people watch this stream
Yes I am it watching this for good poker. Its just drama entertainment. Poker after dark was one of my favorite
i got screwed by a guy with the name of Cantu... must be part of the genes
Lets go Cantu
I always thought that Brandon Cantu was a good guy. It looks like I might be wrong.
Cantu the narcissist thinks he should be allowed to do whatever he wants
It's like a super bitchy sewing club sometimes.
Why didn't Hejmuth give it out...Helmuth and him are friends...the way he plays poker, he is a degenerate
If you dont have MONEY stop GAMBLING ...simple😉😉😉its ADDICTION if you borrow money to play😂😂😂
Is this video 6 years old??
I know it’s uploaded recently but Doug is fat and says he’s 28
I swear if you ever air this dude again im done
We never did air him. That livestream was buried in a time capsule for many years.
Want to put this fire out??? Just say yes I owe it and I'm working on pay it...AND PAY IT! All of this nonsense is a b***h move acting like you're the victim Cantu!
yeah ask him about his dad taking 4mil ub and from russ hamilton .oops
They both cry like lil witch’s man wtf man
An unpaid, overdue loan isn't "stolen" money; stealing money is a crime. Failing or delaying due payment of a debt is (most likely) a civil matter--not criminal (unless the credit was extended under false/fraudulent pretenses induced by the debtor).
It's not literally stolen but it is definitely scummy when someone gambles, especially sports betting while owing money. Definitely a degenerate.
That entirely depends on how you define the words used. Plenty of definitions of the word "stealing" could include unpaid, overdue loans.
I think you missed the point. If you borrowed money knowing that you didn't have the means to pay it back or had no intentions of paying it... You basically stole it.
@Ryan Turner yes the fraudulent pretenses part, it is just very difficult to prove in court
Try explaining that to the mafia after you fail to pay the vig.
Is Doug Polk 28 years old???11:05
Anyone who loans him money deserves to lose that money because they're naive and a lollipop.
Thats why cantu showed up with a broken arm one stream. because of unpaid debts.
Awkward 😮
How old is this?
2017
@@Pokernight is Cantù still alive? Playing poker?
Deeb is way wrong..I hate people that get in other people's business..
Deeb’s argument is that by calling out those who have unpaid debts with multiple people, it helps inform others from loaning to repeat offenders
It doesn't matter,Deeb is a big mouth..Look at his story..He has Alot of skeletons in his closet
Typical Canadian.
That’s a first!
Videos like this one indeed give poker a bad bad name’ let’s highlight the good guys not the scumbags’
That’s because this IS the reality of poker, not the glamorized fantasy
This is poker or lady’s night
For the first 4 minutes this whole thing is dead even. Im not even watching the rest.
So, at what point in this pointless video, did the actual call out take place?🤔
Probably the entire length of the video, no?
Wow just made whole poker community look like dbags. No wonder why poker gets no attention
Cantu is a thief
Cantu pos
Cantu is so bad at poker and a degen. I dont understand how he gets money
The poker world is crazy here you have deeb who doesnt like cantu and yet he loans him $12k because another player hellmuth vouched for cantu im sorry but if i dont like you and know you have ripped off my friends im not loaning you a nickel no matter who vouches for you and after you loan the guy money who you dont like you then call him out and pretty much call him a rip off artist on live television in front of the poker world and you can tell every player on that table doesnt want to play with cantu after hearing that
Simple, if u gotta borrow to play you're a degenerate gambler
Polk the scammer, calling out another scammer ,hilarious 😂
When did he scam lmao?
How is Polk a scammer?
@@JDLupus doesn't make it untrue. I wouldn't call it a scam, but giving financial advice regarding something you know nothing about is questionable. A sponsorship is you putting your name on something, and that means you will be associated with fallout from any scandal related to it.
For the record, I like Doug. I'm subbed, and I'll definitely be hitting up the lodge whenever I make it out to Texas.
@@gr9107 Yeah the one he lost money on and got screwed by the people as well? I never get this thing where people pile on the paid sponsors like they had evil intentions. You think he had access to their financials or some stupid shit lmao?
All are pos people lol especially Deeb😊
U can’t just back people and expect to make money all the time, there’s risk with everything
Backing / buying action is very different then loaning.
Lost a Viewer and will not recommend literally no floor to control the Livestream terrible
This is from 2017 and a casino that we no longer film at. Poker Night does not control the floor unless we are shooting at a private location otherwise the casino floor supervised per usual.
@@Pokernight why you guys stop lmao
@@deventayal7680 and couldn't reply to your question, 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ppmtrader what
@@Pokernight its probably brandon Cantu 😂
All of you are YOHEDIOUSBOW!..:)
Stop being the brother who named drop on 7 days to Vegas! lol
"Heard it from a friend who heard it from a guy who heard it from another guy". Idk what kind of person Cantu is but i agree what he says about Deeb sticking his nose in someone elses business is fucked up. Trying to call someone out over something at a poker table in front of everybody especially when youre not involved in it and dont have first hand account is uncalled for. A lot of people would have told Deeb to fuck off and mind his own business and possibly got up in his face. Cantu idk anything about him, but Deeb definitely comes off as a condescending arrogant douche at times. But, as they say, between 2 sides of a story, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Both douches but at least Deeb has some morals