To an extent yes, but some traits aren’t really something you need to see. You don’t need to see a QB play in live games to tell if they have a strong arm for example
CJ not being on second read ability when he was getting to his 3rd and 4th reads like it was nothing. This was even confirmed by EJ Speed and Zaire Franklin. And to quote Speed specifically he stated “Do you know how degrading that shit is”.
Joe Milton has by far the strongest arm i have ever seen on a human being..its otherwordly and effortless and breathtaking..jury is out on if he will be a good qb but watching Milton flick it 80 yards is insane
Joe Burrow right now is the most accurate QB in NFL History. Like 68.6% career completion percentage. To say anyone is more accurate than he is is just silly because it’s not true. He currently has the NFL record for most accurate period.
@@Love2Musgrave 75% win record since coming in. Had a bye unlike every other team in playoffs minus 1 (how does one achieve that?) a great blowout win vs texans (vs a top rising talent qb/defence) and a disappointing championship game. so yh for most of the playoffs he was great lad
I’m shocked at the fact that Herbert didn’t make top 10 in ball placement or pocket presence. Anybody who has watched him play knows what im talking about
When it comes to manipulating the pocket, Peyton Manning was one of the best I have ever seen there. He was excellent at many things and that's why he's in the hall of fame.
Purdy at 4 is not crazy on Second-reaction ability. Do you even watch Purdys tape? Dude is always making off-schedule amazing passes because outside of Trent the rest of the O-line caves in and hes always on the run. Purdy is 100% top 5 in that category.
His arm isn’t stronger than Herbert’s. He has more arm talent, as in ability to throw off platform, different angles, on the run, etc, but in terms of strength, which is the ability to throw it hard and far, he isn’t Justin Herbert
Stafford has the strongest arm. Justin Fields has a strong arm. I don’t think he’s a franchise QB, but he has a stronger arm. Jared Goff has a strong arm. Geno has a strong arm. Russ’s arm is deceptively strong.
May be bias cuz I watch him play more than josh and pat since I’m on the west coast but I feel Herbert has the strongest arm. Richardson and Levi’s should round out the top 5
I liked all of his lists except the arm strength one. Allen has the strongest arm. Stafford is 2nd and Herbert is 3rd. Burrow should be number 1 in ball placement, accuracy and mechanics and pocket prescence and manipulation. If you are try to teach a young man how to play QB and what it’s supposed to look like there are 3 QBs that you should make him watch. Tom Brady, Payton Manning, and Joe Burrow. But Burrow is a better scrambler than Brady and Manning so I would have them model there game after Joe Burrow. Maybe Aron Rodgers early stuff.
And saying that Stroud should be above Burrow on ball placement is silly too. We have 4 years of Burrows tape. We have 16 games of CJ Strounds tape. Before I put him number 1 on any list anywhere he has to have another successful season. I personally think he and the Texans are going to regress along with the Ravens and Browns. I believe this year is going to be the Joe Burrow year. The first of many. All all that jazz about CJ Stroud having the best rookie season we have ever seen is nonsense. Maybe the best that person has ever seen but I’ve seen rookie years that were better than his. Like Justin Herbert’s for instance. Their rookie years can easily be compared because they both only played 15 games their rookie years. Herbert was better. Strouds rookie year was very comparable to Baker Mayfields and Mac Jones. They all 3 look very similar. Their numbers all 3 look very similar. And when Burrow got hurt his rookie year he was on pace for 4300 yards 25 tds and 8 interceptions with a 67% completion percentage. That would have been better than Stroud too. And Stroud has the benifit of being on a good team. Burrow was not on a good team that first year. They had the 31st rated offensive line. Stroud has a Pro Bowl/All Pro Left tackle one of the best pass protectors in football. Burrow did not have that. Also the Bengals should have beaten the Texans last year. If Tyler Boyd hadn’t dropped the game winning td the Bengals win that game and are in the playoffs.
Watch his tape lol. He’s not a great processor, most of his strengths come from his athleticism letting him get away with a slower processor. It doesn’t hurt that he has arguably the best group of weapons and a top 3 O-Line in the league to make his life easier.
What are you talking about idiot it don't matter if he's a great processor or no I've seen dude beat Josh Allen in OT and Pat Mahomes on the road that's enough for me to put him in the elite category. Stop talking about the weapons we've seen these weapons with Minshew and Mariota and still couldn't get the sane production you get outta Hurts. Clearly you don't watch the tape because Jalen makes his team around him better. Don't forget Jalen is in his 4th year as a starter too with his 3rd OC. Do you forget that? His play calling was some of the worst I ever seen. Jalen Hurts literally carries the Eagles. To some people AJ ain't even a Top 5 WR and Devonta Smith ain't Top 10 (according to most people) people even think Saquan ain't even that good so what are you talking about weapons? Y'all honestly just never wanna give Philly credit for anything😂
Why did everybody agree that Caleb should be the #1 pick? We haven’t seen any of the QBs yet, we shouldn’t make any assumptions. Just flip a coin, they’re all rookies, doesn’t matter who because they haven’t played. I don’t understand why old heads are so adamantly against giving rookies any level of praise when we have tape and measurables to make judgements on them. Obviously we don’t know 100% for sure, but saying that Jayden Daniels can’t be a top 10 rushing QB before he’s played a snap is just stupid, or that Caleb doesn’t definitely have well refined improvisation.
@@TheBottomLineView I think the most important trait is decision making. In order to be an effective quarterback u need to know what to do in any situation whether there is pressure or isn’t pressure.
@@TheBottomLineViewwhat about Lamar Jackson. Mahomes and Jackson won a combined 4 regular season MVPs and according to the mechanics list, both of their mechanics suck. Both have shown that u don’t need great mechanics to win football games.
Again with the lazy Purdy takes. Draftism alive and well here. While of course each person will see things differently to some degree. But I find the inability to recognize actual results ridiculous. Such a cop out to say it’s just his receivers. I appreciate Dan at least tried to provide next level detail, where people can actually have real arguments. Instead of the complete pile of BS that is Simms list or the utter garbage that Nick Wright spews. I respect your views way above the. But dude drop the lazy Purdy take please.
which lazy take are you referring to? it's just a fact that the niners have the most open receivers because of kyle. this was also the case with jimmy. it allows for less accurate passes to still be completed. not sure what else you are referring to?
@@deshundillard1337 see i think he has good feel for the pocket but i think its more due to his arm talent. purdy is more of a natural scrambler and tough passer from there i think
You don’t know ball if you think Mahomes is better in terms of ball placement than Joe Burrow. I’m a Chiefs fan, born in KC, and it’s not a diss to say he isn’t the absolute best at literally every aspect of QB just because he’s the best overall. That’s like saying it’s disrespectful to say that Tyreek Hill isn’t the best route runner in the NFL. Even if he is the best overall receiver, he’s absolutely not the best at several traits of receivers, like routine running, contested catch, etc. Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL. He is not the best at literally every aspect of playing QB.
@BurntPenguin8371 I disagree..burrow has better receivers and they don't drop the ball often.. cheifs receivers dropping the ball all over place.. he puts the ball where it needs to be they have to catch it.. he's better on everything except rushing
Mitch why you reacting to anything Dan o say he doesn't know nothing about quarterbacks his only highlight of his whole career is him running out the back of the endzone
@@reiissd370 the man was ass youth league QBs are better than him. I'm going to bash his fake Lions fan ass all the time cause that dumbass remark he said last season around Thanksgiving when Goff was struggling. Lions will lose the division and be a wildcard team and lose in the wildcard round. No real lions fan would never hate on their team
@@reiissd370 name anything I said wrong? Name a highlight of his besides that. The man Dick ride the lions Goff start to struggle around Thanksgiving. Dan take lions will blow the division and lose in the wildcard oh yea he even pick the rams over the lions in the wildcard round cause his man crush Stafford play for the Rams
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Lol mitch it sounds like dan-o thinks burrow is the best qb but won't say it
I suggest rookies shouldn’t be on any list until we see them play in the regular season.
Fair enough
To an extent yes, but some traits aren’t really something you need to see. You don’t need to see a QB play in live games to tell if they have a strong arm for example
CJ not being on second read ability when he was getting to his 3rd and 4th reads like it was nothing. This was even confirmed by EJ Speed and Zaire Franklin. And to quote Speed specifically he stated “Do you know how degrading that shit is”.
Could you do an in-depth video spotlighting Week 1 Thursday and Friday (9/5, 9/6) games so we “your patrons” can be well informed by your wisdom? 😀
Thank you for the super chat johnny
CJ stroud was left off the second reaction list, He might be #1 at reading the field and making great decisons
Yeah forgot about him but i reached my stroud gush session for the video
people saying joe milton got the strongest arm
Stroud models a lot of his game after burrow so makes sense they are near each other in many cats.
Joe Milton has by far the strongest arm i have ever seen on a human being..its otherwordly and effortless and breathtaking..jury is out on if he will be a good qb but watching Milton flick it 80 yards is insane
Could you do an in-depth video spotlighting Week 1 Thursday and Friday (9/5, 9/6) games so we “your patrons” can be well informed by your wisdom?
I will !
@@TheBottomLineView luv u
Herbert might be no.2 in arm strength the velocity he can throw with is crazy
Good topic!
Joe Burrow right now is the most accurate QB in NFL History. Like 68.6% career completion percentage. To say anyone is more accurate than he is is just silly because it’s not true. He currently has the NFL record for most accurate period.
@@NathanDean79 completion % isnt really a accuracy stat. A qb could just complete 2 yard passes all game and go 100%
I don’t know how Lamar Jackson isn’t top 10 for decision making. When pressure comes his way, the guy knows what to do.
yeah lamar should be on there
yeah he looked great in the playoffs last year didn't he?
@@Love2Musgrave he had a bad game because of play calling bro.
@@Love2Musgrave 75% win record since coming in. Had a bye unlike every other team in playoffs minus 1 (how does one achieve that?) a great blowout win vs texans (vs a top rising talent qb/defence) and a disappointing championship game. so yh for most of the playoffs he was great lad
@@Love2Musgravedoesn’t everyone lose to Mahomes. Josh Allen lost 3 times and u don’t mention that.
I’m shocked at the fact that Herbert didn’t make top 10 in ball placement or pocket presence. Anybody who has watched him play knows what im talking about
Joe Burrow over Kyler for rushing ability might be the most negative ball knowledge take of all time
No Jordan love up there ? With a strong arm
love has top 5 arm talent, idk why he keeps getting slighted man🤦🏾♂️
@@deshundillard1337 arm talent. Idk about arm strength. Its prob debatably top 10
@@TheBottomLineView he has a canon, but i don't think we've seen all of what he can do arm strength wise
Let me guess: Matthew Stafford was first across the board for Dan.
When it comes to manipulating the pocket, Peyton Manning was one of the best I have ever seen there. He was excellent at many things and that's why he's in the hall of fame.
Definitely up there
Russ has the best touch in the league. That’s why he completes so many deep passes right in the bucket.
Purdy at 4 is not crazy on Second-reaction ability. Do you even watch Purdys tape? Dude is always making off-schedule amazing passes because outside of Trent the rest of the O-line caves in and hes always on the run. Purdy is 100% top 5 in that category.
I don’t care how old he is. Aaron Rodgers at 5 for arm strength is disrespectful. Buddy is at least top 3.
ah idk bro
@@TheBottomLineView you will respect him.
His arm isn’t stronger than Herbert’s. He has more arm talent, as in ability to throw off platform, different angles, on the run, etc, but in terms of strength, which is the ability to throw it hard and far, he isn’t Justin Herbert
Lol dude I stopped watching immediately after you said Stroud should be 1st on the ball placement list over Burrow. That is ludicrous. ✌️ peace out.
Stafford has the strongest arm. Justin Fields has a strong arm. I don’t think he’s a franchise QB, but he has a stronger arm. Jared Goff has a strong arm. Geno has a strong arm. Russ’s arm is deceptively strong.
May be bias cuz I watch him play more than josh and pat since I’m on the west coast but I feel Herbert has the strongest arm. Richardson and Levi’s should round out the top 5
Yeah, Herberts velocity is special
I liked all of his lists except the arm strength one. Allen has the strongest arm. Stafford is 2nd and Herbert is 3rd. Burrow should be number 1 in ball placement, accuracy and mechanics and pocket prescence and manipulation. If you are try to teach a young man how to play QB and what it’s supposed to look like there are 3 QBs that you should make him watch. Tom Brady, Payton Manning, and Joe Burrow. But Burrow is a better scrambler than Brady and Manning so I would have them model there game after Joe Burrow. Maybe Aron Rodgers early stuff.
And saying that Stroud should be above Burrow on ball placement is silly too. We have 4 years of Burrows tape. We have 16 games of CJ Strounds tape. Before I put him number 1 on any list anywhere he has to have another successful season. I personally think he and the Texans are going to regress along with the Ravens and Browns. I believe this year is going to be the Joe Burrow year. The first of many. All all that jazz about CJ Stroud having the best rookie season we have ever seen is nonsense. Maybe the best that person has ever seen but I’ve seen rookie years that were better than his. Like Justin Herbert’s for instance. Their rookie years can easily be compared because they both only played 15 games their rookie years. Herbert was better. Strouds rookie year was very comparable to Baker Mayfields and Mac Jones. They all 3 look very similar. Their numbers all 3 look very similar. And when Burrow got hurt his rookie year he was on pace for 4300 yards 25 tds and 8 interceptions with a 67% completion percentage. That would have been better than Stroud too. And Stroud has the benifit of being on a good team. Burrow was not on a good team that first year. They had the 31st rated offensive line. Stroud has a Pro Bowl/All Pro Left tackle one of the best pass protectors in football. Burrow did not have that. Also the Bengals should have beaten the Texans last year. If Tyler Boyd hadn’t dropped the game winning td the Bengals win that game and are in the playoffs.
Lamar having top 10 arm strength is so laughable…….
Can I ask why you bash Jalen Hurts in everything?
Watch his tape lol. He’s not a great processor, most of his strengths come from his athleticism letting him get away with a slower processor. It doesn’t hurt that he has arguably the best group of weapons and a top 3 O-Line in the league to make his life easier.
What are you talking about idiot it don't matter if he's a great processor or no I've seen dude beat Josh Allen in OT and Pat Mahomes on the road that's enough for me to put him in the elite category. Stop talking about the weapons we've seen these weapons with Minshew and Mariota and still couldn't get the sane production you get outta Hurts. Clearly you don't watch the tape because Jalen makes his team around him better. Don't forget Jalen is in his 4th year as a starter too with his 3rd OC. Do you forget that? His play calling was some of the worst I ever seen. Jalen Hurts literally carries the Eagles. To some people AJ ain't even a Top 5 WR and Devonta Smith ain't Top 10 (according to most people) people even think Saquan ain't even that good so what are you talking about weapons? Y'all honestly just never wanna give Philly credit for anything😂
Just as an aside, If no one thinks Deshaun Watson can't break sacks then you clearly haven't been watching the games.
He can
Stroud fanboy much?
It’s just all facts
It's a lot of projection. Let's see him do it this season against a first place schedule
@@chrisb9489 basing it off last season
@@chrisb9489first place schedules don’t mean anything as long as you have suitable QB play and a HC. The schedule take is lazy and has been debunked.
Nah dudes definitely a Burrow dickrider
Joe Milton has a much stronger arm than Allen and Mahomes. Also Flacco has a cannon. I’m assuming this isn’t including backups though.
much stronger arm than mahomes or allen is ridicoulous relax
Josh Allen easily has the strongest arm of any QB in the NFL.
Agree
Did u watch mahomes in the afc championship game
explain?
jordan love clears every qb
Bart starr >
Why is everyone putting Caleb in these when he hasn't taken 1 Pass attempt yet, This is ludacris...Wait till the guy plays already.
Traits measure talent
Ludicrous…😂 not Ludacris the rapper.
Why did everybody agree that Caleb should be the #1 pick? We haven’t seen any of the QBs yet, we shouldn’t make any assumptions. Just flip a coin, they’re all rookies, doesn’t matter who because they haven’t played.
I don’t understand why old heads are so adamantly against giving rookies any level of praise when we have tape and measurables to make judgements on them. Obviously we don’t know 100% for sure, but saying that Jayden Daniels can’t be a top 10 rushing QB before he’s played a snap is just stupid, or that Caleb doesn’t definitely have well refined improvisation.
Patrick Mahomes has the strongest arm
Personally I think mechanics is probably the least impactful trait for a quarterback.
i think its arguably most important because it determines proper accuracy but its also funny how different qbs have different mechanics
@@TheBottomLineView I think the most important trait is decision making. In order to be an effective quarterback u need to know what to do in any situation whether there is pressure or isn’t pressure.
@@TheBottomLineViewconsidering the best QB in the league right now didn’t rank in the top 10, I think the evidence speaks otherwise lol
@@aryanbagga820 i think hes a complete outlier tho
@@TheBottomLineViewwhat about Lamar Jackson. Mahomes and Jackson won a combined 4 regular season MVPs and according to the mechanics list, both of their mechanics suck. Both have shown that u don’t need great mechanics to win football games.
Again with the lazy Purdy takes. Draftism alive and well here. While of course each person will see things differently to some degree. But I find the inability to recognize actual results ridiculous. Such a cop out to say it’s just his receivers. I appreciate Dan at least tried to provide next level detail, where people can actually have real arguments. Instead of the complete pile of BS that is Simms list or the utter garbage that Nick Wright spews. I respect your views way above the. But dude drop the lazy Purdy take please.
which lazy take are you referring to? it's just a fact that the niners have the most open receivers because of kyle. this was also the case with jimmy. it allows for less accurate passes to still be completed. not sure what else you are referring to?
how is love to high?? bro what
@@deshundillard1337 which list?
@@TheBottomLineView pocket presence, the dallas game a reason why he is better than purdy in the pocket
@@deshundillard1337 see i think he has good feel for the pocket but i think its more due to his arm talent. purdy is more of a natural scrambler and tough passer from there i think
@@TheBottomLineView ok i get ya, love said he worked on pocket presence this offseason anyway, so i think he will be higher on your list this year
I'm with u I have Josh Allen 1st the best thrower of the football.
Mahomes number 1 on everything except rushing thats lamar and josh allen.. they keep disrespecting mahomeboy
You don’t know ball if you think Mahomes is better in terms of ball placement than Joe Burrow. I’m a Chiefs fan, born in KC, and it’s not a diss to say he isn’t the absolute best at literally every aspect of QB just because he’s the best overall.
That’s like saying it’s disrespectful to say that Tyreek Hill isn’t the best route runner in the NFL. Even if he is the best overall receiver, he’s absolutely not the best at several traits of receivers, like routine running, contested catch, etc.
Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL. He is not the best at literally every aspect of playing QB.
@BurntPenguin8371 I disagree..burrow has better receivers and they don't drop the ball often.. cheifs receivers dropping the ball all over place.. he puts the ball where it needs to be they have to catch it.. he's better on everything except rushing
Mitch why you reacting to anything Dan o say he doesn't know nothing about quarterbacks his only highlight of his whole career is him running out the back of the endzone
😭😂
The guy was an NFL QB - he's the small percentile of people who can even begin to open there mouths with some sort of validity to discuss QB play
What an absolutely moronic comment 😂😂😂
@@reiissd370 the man was ass youth league QBs are better than him. I'm going to bash his fake Lions fan ass all the time cause that dumbass remark he said last season around Thanksgiving when Goff was struggling. Lions will lose the division and be a wildcard team and lose in the wildcard round. No real lions fan would never hate on their team
@@reiissd370 name anything I said wrong? Name a highlight of his besides that. The man Dick ride the lions Goff start to struggle around Thanksgiving. Dan take lions will blow the division and lose in the wildcard oh yea he even pick the rams over the lions in the wildcard round cause his man crush Stafford play for the Rams