DIY Antifungal Gouache Spray & How To Reconstitute Dried Up Jelly Gouache
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It's wonderful until it dries out on you. Today I will show you how to revive dried-up jelly gouache and also show you have to make a preventative spray so you will never have to deal with dried jelly gouache again!
Antifungal Gouache refresher Spray recipe:
In a spray bottle add
10 parts water (distilled or boiled and cooled)
1 part alcohol (normal stuff from the drugstore)
1 part glycerin (from a health food store or pharmacy) amzn.to/3rPqU19
The water replaces the water that has evaporated from the paint. the alcohol kills mold and bacteria that may be in your paint. The glycerin helps retain moisture so it won't try out so fast. The glycerin is optional. don't add to much or your paint may become shiny or more translucent.
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I live in Panama so my Himi cups suffer mold more than drying. As it thickens I spray with bottled water and i added a tiny drop of clove bud oil to prevent mold. Works like a dream. Stays moist so far for 3+ weeks of non-use.
I finally put a piece of plastic wrap over the paints , then the palette and then the lid. Works like a charm to keep the paints from drying out and keeps the palette clean!
Thats what i was wondering!
I use the Saran Wrap Press n Seal and they are no longer drying out.
great tip! thank you
You know, the easiest solutions are usually the best.
doesnt the plastic wrap then get a bunch of paint on it then you have to be careful where you put that as well?
I hate when this happens to me😭 it makes me teary to see my beloved goauche end up in moldss when ive been so busy in school. Thanks for the tip! ❤️
I don't use jelly gouache but I have an airtight gouache palette I've never filled due to worrying about mold. This idea of the spray with a bit of alcohol and glycerine is brilliant! I know some people use clove oil (and I found some the other day in my supplies, I must have bought it for this reason...LOL) but I also love Grapefruit Seed Extract and bet it would work well as an antimicrobial additive too. Clove can be overwhelming to me.
I’ve seen some artist use a super mini mixer to mix them up to a creamy consistency
I would suggest that you use distilled water because it’s pure water. Also you can use Press and Seal on the palette and then put the top on. I’ve used this to keep some of my Nuvo embellishment mousse from drying out.
Never a pointless video Lindsay, these tips are always so valuable 🤩‼️
Your tutorials are always helpful! Thanks Lindsay.🤗
You, Lindsay are an artists miracle worker! This is AWESOME!! Thank you.
Thanks so much for covering this. I was ready to pitch this set and strike it up as a learning lesson not to buy cheap products. I will pass the word along!!
Thanks for sharing. I recently also brought back my dried out palette back into juicy cups and have fallen back in love with the medium. This gouache sure is a fun medium and I have to admit that the wet juicy palette alone really sparks joy just by looking at it and gives me mojo to paint with it compared with the crusty dry palette it used to be. Nice tip about making a refreshing spray ready on the desk.
I did not know that stuff will mold. I learned something today. Thank you.
Thanks for the pro tips Lindsay . Very much appreciated. 💜
Thanks for the frugal tips Lindsay.
Great tip! I don’t have jelly gouache but I use the glycerin with water spray for my harder to rewet watercolors.
Great tips. I'll remember this video if I ever delve into the world o' gouache. Terrific class last night on Zoom for Michaels about colored pencil paper selection. Took lotsa notes. They and Derwents are very lucky to have your talents.
Thanks so much!
I transferred a portion of my himi paints to another palette and just reconstitute that, so i don't need to stir the whole cup.. i love the alcohol tip. Thanks for that!
Great tip! I use distilled water for my crafts and no bacteria or anything 😉
Oh wow, fantastic, well done, thank you for sharing!
Fantastic tips I will remember this💕💕
I live in the uk so am pretty scared of mould when it comes to stay wet palettes and jellies 🥺 this is really helpful ❤
Such a great video! I have a coupe of these and this is very good advice
Thank. You so much for this! As a newcomer to gauche - in fact all painting - I bought a box of Himi and was a bit nonplussed to find little cartons of creamy paint - with no lids by the time you took the covers off! I was hoping they might retain their constitution… But now I realise they are meant to be like that and that you can rescue them if they dry out. Excellent timing! Bless the algorithm!😂
Thank you for this! I was researching this very topic a couple of weeks ago and had trouble finding information. I landed on spraying with alcohol and water, so it's good to have this confirmation.
I moved some of mine to a smaller pallette so I didn't have to get out the big heavy container every time. Then to keep it fresh I sprayed with water and alcohol and put plastic wrap under the lid. So far so good!
@@teresabotkins4983 Thanks for the tips. May I know what's the ratio of water and alcohol? Or do you spray them separately?
I literally just got a set of 56 for Mother's day! Your video couldn't have arrived at a better time! Thank you!
What a coincidence, I did the same thing to my Himi gouche! But I just used room temperature water. And yes most came back to life. 😊
I had to reconstitute my jelly guache last month. I just used water and they started drying out again right away. What I decided to do that really seemed to help a lot was putting a sheet of plastic that I cut out of a plastic bag from the bulk bin area of the supermarket. The paint stays fresher, the palatte doesn't get dirty and I feel like it's easier to snap the latches down. Your recipe sounds great, I'm going to have to try it.
It’s been a while since I touched my Arrtx jelly gouache set and I was sad/surprised to see it dried and caved in (I kept the palette on and made sure it properly closed)😭 I’ve been waiting for the HiMi anti mildew spray to be available here in the UK for nearly a year now but no luck! Thanks for sharing your DIY spray recipe. I will definitely try to revive the dead paints with your tips. 🥰 thank you!
This was sooo satisfying. After completed my 30 day challenge my palette is a mess so I’m currently doing a deep clean too!
I loved your challenge paintings!
I just ordered the large one you reviewed recently
I've just watched you draw a burger on my TV, I can't comment on my TV but it was well worth watching it was really good company. Thanks and it's really cool having your PS box I loved trying to blend the roses I've never had a hobby before but I love learning to craft a bit and really appreciate you taking time to do this I'm going to watch this video next. Thank you again x
Im glad you liked it!
I have the 56 gouache set. I love it i draw and paint more whit the jelly gouache paints my first set was a 24 himi miya gouache set 😊
I've had to do the same thing with my palettes a few times already. I use distilled water (under a buck a gallon at Walmart) and I've never had a mold problem. The company I got my first box from told me the palettes aren't completely air tight on purpose so there is a tiny air flow that prevents mold. It made sense to me at the time. Thanks for sharing. I really should spray mine more often instead of having to reactivate them when I want to play with them, hehe!
That makes sense.
I have the large HIMI set and I spray with alcohol, cover with press and seal. I have not removed the palette but may do that. After putting back the lid, I store in a zip lock bag. Soft, malable gouache every time; no mold.
If the paint is too dry and looks dull when reactivated with water you can use a muller to bring it back to life, and of you don’t have a muller you van even use a flat bottom glass, it works perfectly for me :-) and thank you for sharing all your great tips with us!
What's a muller?
@@hatesBarney4life it's a glass tool that you can grind the paint with a bit of water, if you add some clove oil it will smell great and will not mold
Very good video! I do this fairly often, but I only rehydrate the top of the paint. I don't know if the paint settles out while drying and I'll have weirdness at the bottom ultimately, but I figure the less I rehydrate the less the chance of mold. My method is that I just spritz the pans really generously with water and then go have a snack. By the time I get back I have enough rehydrated paint to do what I want. I don't have to do a bunch of stirring, just dip paint out of the very top. If I need more, I spritz more. My paints probably dry out quicker that way, but I've found drying out the paint also helps with the plastic or chemical odor the Arttx (my kit) has. But yeah, I hope nobody has ever thrown out these jelly gouaches because they've dried out. They do fine when moistened again. On the burnt sienna and yellow ochre, I've found that my Dr. Ph Martin inks of those colors tend to separate and sediment more than my other colors do, so it may just be the nature of the pigments.
I think your right!
Great tip. I squirted my tubes into half pans for the convenience but they are really cracked but still usable as you would watercolor. I'll try your method on them. I did something like this with dried nuvo mousses. It worked kind of but could not get them back to a creamyness so I'm just using those to paint with. Those mousses dry out fast especially because I live in Albuquerque, 5000 feet and very arid. I don't recommend them for this climate, there's no real way to keep it from happening. I plan to just make my own pastes from now on just as needed using heavy gel medium and reinkers.
What do you think about just putting a piece of cellophane wrap on top before latching the lid on? It can be reused or replaced pretty inexpensively.
I'd be inclined to either put plastic wrap over the palette, like I keep over my various pots of Tonic pastes and mousses (Glacier, Embellishment, etc) or store the pots in a different, airtight dollar store Rubbermaid container and just replace the pots in the palettes when I want to use them. I'd probably go the plastic wrap route (who wants two different storage containers for the same product?) because I know it works and it would keep the mixing trays clean. Love your frugal Friday tips!
Glycerin is the most undervalued resource in the craft room.
I did this a few months ago and the paints are almost like new too. I think you might have just got bad boxes because my one latches perfectly fine
I think I said this, but you gotta blend ten drops of gum Arabic into each pot. Makes them revive a lot faster, minimizes cracking, and even helps with mold depending on what brand you use. I wanna say Windsor and Newton has an anti microbial agent in it.
Try it with just one of your palettes. Trust me
I am truly happy to have avoided this jelly gouache fad! I have not used gouache for a while but I am a tube user and I do save my paints as they dry on my gouache palette and if you buy quality gouache it re-wets just fine! I have Turners gouache for the most of my painting, I have purchased some “budget” gouache from Windsor & Newton and I have found it works well wet or dry! You do get what you pay for. I know that you are truly The Frugal Crafter and getting the most from your supplies and passing your knowledge on to others is truly wonderful, so thanks Lindsay! You are truly inspirational and a real Gem! Take care and have a lovely day!
Good timing. I'm just about to put my gouache palette away for a while...
Thx!
I love all your thrifty tips and techniques! Frugal Fridays are great! I only have watercolors that came in half pan pallets and regular tubed gouache that I squeeze into half pans. Should I be doing something similar with these to avoid mold in the future? Janet 💕
It should be fine if you are drying it out.
@@thefrugalcrafter Thanks for the speedy response!
I have the 24 colour Himi set. Around 2 months ago I filled half pans with each colour and put them into a small tin so I can use when creating and so it would be easier to move around. I covered the original Himi box with cling wrap before placing the palette and lid on as I didn't like the mess it made either! Then I placed the box into a vacuum seal bag that I have in the kitchen that I would normally freeze food in. I sealed it with the vacuum seal and put it away in my art room. My Dad suggested I try this as air can't get in to dry it out so technically it should stay the same consistency. I will open it up and check on it in another month or two. Unless I need to top up my half pans before then.....
Update on this? 😁
@@death__ray it is still in perfect condition and hasn't dried out! I have stopped putting it in the vacuum seal bag though as I found that just wrapping the box in cling wrap keeps it fresh.
Hey Lindsey! Enjoyed the paper class last night. I missed the beginning so I'm hopeful they will release the recording. I do have a question but imma put it in a separate comment.
I just posted a written version and condensed video on my blog.
When I do mine I take out the little packs after I have let them sit in water. I did basically the same thing you did, but I did find out there are electric paint stirrers, I just do it with a thin palette knife
TYVM!!
Fabulous tip, that DIY spray recipe! I wonder if you put foam double sided adhesive (like the one used for card making) in the top side.of the boxes, to keep the palette air tight -and the paints moist. I was also annoyed that the box did not want to latch properly. Thanks for this video and the tip!
I think that's a good idea!
Hi Lindsay, was thinking of you, hope thar you are better, and over everything, and thst the rest are also well again
We are all good now! I was out of quarantine yesterday.
I'm going to try this with my Master's Touch gauach. It was so runny when it came out of the tubes that I ended up squeezing them into one of those daily pills dispensers. I've been adding just water to reconstitute them and so far, no mold. But I want to avoid it in the future.
Hi Lindsay, I hope you are doing great! I was wondering if this would also work for the Arteza gouache. I have the same utility box as you and let the colors dry. Sometimes I don't use them because it's hard to reactivate them. Thank you for any advice. Happy weekend
This should work for all the wet gouache palettes. I own three different brands of the Himi-like cups sets and they are extremely similar. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were coming out of the same factory under different names, which is pretty common in the Chinese art supply manufacturing world.
In UK Amazon has a set for him that include s anti fungal / keep moist spray. As well as white refil canvases and brushes with the 24 case. Only said cus it is pretty cheap for UK and comes with everything lol. I'm getting it for my birthday
What spray is that?
Hi, has anyone here tried putting these "jelly" type gouache in the fridge to maintain moisture and keep it as fresh looking as possible? If so, how did it turn out say after a year or so? Did it grow mold, did it keep better than constantly spraying with water from time to time? TIA.
I put a sillicon baking mat over my himi miya gouache set and i spray it once whit water. This works. I got this from another youtuber😊
That's a great idea!
I've heard that a mix of distilled water and isopropyl alcohol works well. But I am still waiting for my kit, so I am yet to confirm it
Me, me, me. 🖐🖐🖐I have Magicfly jelly gouache. The instructions said the shelf-life is 18 mos unopened and 6 mos opened. I’ve had all the cups original seal opened almost a year and only used them a little. Because of the tight & well-fitting lid, (they call it their Seal-Tight Box with Box Film) only about half are now beginning to show cracks. But they do offer instructions on reactivating. They say for dried gouache: Take gouache out of the cup and add glycerin and water (equal parts?) until it’s moistened, then “grind” (their term) it into mud and stir evenly. They warn not to add too much water.
Super helpful Lindsay, seeing as I just got my new himi paints😊. I have a question....are the himi cubes the same size as the arrtx ones?? Can they fit into an arrtx case??? I ask because I'm considering buying a small set and making a custom travel palette as I don't want to lug around 56 colours😂.
I think so!
Thank you very much! My next question now is the fact that I have plenty of glycerin and water in my Himi palette, suggestion as to mix of rubbing alcohol and water? I don't want mold. This palette has always latched but the removable mixing area has always been warped. Now it's got cling wrap, I put foam in the lid and it's in two Ziploc type bags.
You can just spritz it with alcohol when you go to put it away.
@@thefrugalcrafter You da bomb!
Thank you so much for this tip!
What do you think about using honey instead of glycerin for this?
It should be fine
@@thefrugalcrafter Thanks. I hope you're feeling better. The Michael's live stream was awesome! I don't know how you manage to do all that you do!💜💜💜
Cool tips gouache takes forever to finish👍🏾hope all is well?
Yup! I recorded this 2 weeks ago so it was pre plague 😆
@@thefrugalcrafter good word for it, the "plague" it hit my family hard.
Hi Lindsay, QUESTION: You are using this method with the jelly cup gouache, but will it also work with the Arteza gouache that I have?
Sure
Hi got a question can you usr the alcohol and glycerin for tube guache you placed in a palette and also for acrylics on a wet palette?
Sure
Instead of keeping my pallets in my gouache containers, I just took them out and put a thin piece of silicone that lays flat on top of the cups so my lid (that doesn't click shut because it arrived broken) doesn't really matter so much if it fully closes. Keeps them fairly moist. Haven't had mold yet (fingers crossed)
That's a great idea!
Love Frugal Fridays. I don't have any jelly gouache and still enjoyed the video. TFS this helpful tip. ❤
QUESTION: Why is there acrylic gouache and water soluble gouache? Is it just that the acrylic gouache is matte but still performs like shinier acrylics? So confused🤔
Yes, acrylic gouache is just matte acrylics. It won't re wet.
@@thefrugalcrafter thanks
Thank you! What about adding arabic gum instead of glycerin?
Gum arabic is a binder. Glycerin is a humectant. You want a humectant to retain moisture.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you!
I was wondering, do the better quality gouache work ok drying out for travel? I can't imagine traveling with the jelly cups, what a mess that would be! I have some W&N, and Arteza tubes.
They are about the same but as they are drying in your travel palette and a skin starts to from press them down to compress the paint and avoid cracking.
Would Hydrogen Peroxide work the same as alcohol? I looked it up and it supposedly can help with mold in some ways, but I'm not completely sure what it will do. I let my gouache palette dry up because I have mold issues, and I want to prevent them in the future since it took so long to revive my palette.
It might bleach some of the pigments
Hey, I loved your tips always. But here I have a question. My HIMI gouache's particular one color is keep getting molded. I clean my box very often. And also i do spitz filtered water. But whenever i open my box after 6-7 days that particular color keep getting molded. So here I am to know some tips to have a mold free gouache colors. Cause am suffering so badly.
Spray some rubbing alcohol on the color that molds.
Somebody may have already mentioned this, instead of the alcohol, would clove oil be a possible antibacterial effect?
Sure
How many minutes do I have to soak the dried gouache in boiling water?
As long as it takes
Would you use jelly gouache on pieces that you sell? I only ask because we constantly hear about only using light fast pencils on art you sell. You hear it anytime some reviews a more affordable brand of pencils.
Depends on the colors you use. I'd avoid neons nut gouache should be matted under glass so it will protect it quite a bit. I'd recommend doing a lightfast test and removing the colors from your palette that fade.
Just yesterday tried spritzing with alcohol, then water. It didn’t do much. Today tried boiling water & things are looking up!
Great!
My daughter just discovered gouache. Which jelly brand do u like the best? She is disabled..so simple is best.
They are all very similar but the annigoni brand is mote opaque than himi. I reviewed it the other day.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you!
Would you say it'd work if you put each paint into it's own one ounce container with a lid? I ordered the 56 set yesterday and plan on doing that. Sure it won't be nice and neat in the box anymore but I think the paint will not dry out and hopefully not get fungus.
If they are airtight
@@thefrugalcrafter I must find a way lol
@@thefrugalcrafter I found a set of 60 air tight mini 1.5 ounce mason jars on Amazon for $27! That should work right? I'mma buy em when the 56 gouache set gets here. Can put lil labels for the colors on em too!
A company I worked for used.to have us freeze our acrylics and they were fine
It was just our pallet we froze
That's a great idea! Thank you!
Is that good for the paints? Pouring boiling water over them?
It didn't hurt them
Ok
There was footage of that dried gouache palette on your last review of the really big pallet I’m pretty sure you even talked about how you had dried it out intentionally if anybody wants to see what it looks like in video dried out they can go back to that video and see it
That's right I did 😆
I don't have any gouache but have been considering getting some. So please excuse the ignorance here...couldn't you just cover it with saran wrap and then close it up? Hope you're feeling better!
I suppose but some people reported mold when doing that. I also don't want to keep throwing away plastic.
Ok.... please don't think I'm being negative. This is truly my curiosity. What makes these jelly gouache so special? So many CZcamsrs use them. I get the new unboxing, swatching, ect. But everyone complains about the mess, then dying up over time, I see them and instead of feeling inspired, they just make me think preschool finger paints. Are they really worth all the trouble over having more professional, or even arteza, budget tubes of gouache? Or is it that they got popular and everyone bought them are stuck with them? No.... that can't be because you have so many sets because you love them! You made Plain air pallets with them. What is it that makes these so different? I find myself curious just because everyone seems to love them. You hardly see videos about gouache these days that's not the jelly type. Maybe make a video on that topic? Love you Lindsay! And I trust your opinion!!! Thanks for hearing me out! 🥰
I can't speak for others but 8 like that I open the lid and all of my colors are ready to go and 9 don't have to fuss with tubes. It's faster and more convienient. It's also a lot cheaper than tube paintband you get more. As far as the paint goes it's seems the same to the stuff in tubes or jars. I recommend buying the format you prefer. I think jelly gouache is really popular because it's less money and kinda fun and novel.
@@thefrugalcrafter I truly appreciate your time and input! Thank you!
I think we complain about the mold and drying out issues because everything else about jelly gouache sets is so easy and fun. It seems like minor improvements could be made to make these perfect. They are popular despite the complaints because they are an insane amount of paint per dollar (I picked up a 24 30ml cups set on Amazon for $12.79!). The paint is so easy to use, good pigment/intensity, you can paint straight from the cups if you don’t like watering it down or mixing paints on palettes (I use regular brushes for full intensity paint, and water brushes to get thinner coverage, and can mix on paper so I don’t even use palettes/mixing surfaces). If you keep the paints moist between uses it’s open the lid, have 24 colors ready to go for whatever project size you want, and close it when you’re done. So for busy people it’s easier to fit painting into your schedule. It’s just fun, low stress, low pressure to “not waste expensive paint”… which is really important to newbies, casual hobbiests, and as a fun side project for people who need a break from their “for work/sale/professional” more expensive mediums.
Unlike finger paints it’s easier to know what consistency you want, it’s going to spread more evenly on the page, the colors still look good when they dry, and there’s a lot less mess. It’s also a lot easier to deal with interruptions because you can just throw the lid on when you need to walk away.
There’s currently a 24 set (30ml each) that seems a lot like Himi just under a fake name, on sale for $12.79 on Amazon. Maybe give it a try. Search for “generic gouache 24” and it is the first listing under the ones that say “sponsored”. The paint box is a seafoam kind of color and there is a black box next to it in the picture. The box is labeled Spreey but they didn’t use that word in the listing. The box latches nicely, only one of the cup lids was hard to remove, they included a flexible plastic sheet to cover the paints so the inside lid doesn’t get dirty. I’m really impressed with the color saturation (even on thinner applications using water brush pens) and texture of the paint. I could get dry strokes or light watercolor washes easily. It felt easy to control the water/flow even on cheap mixed media paper so it never seemed chalky. Even on areas where I haphazardly layered the final piece dried flat. I had to leave very aggressive thick glops to have a textured raised/bumpy dried piece. It’s just really forgiving.
Almost perfect.
Almost idiot proof.
Until we hit the wall of “we kept this longer than it’s intended use, and we use it more infrequently than it’s intended use, so we have issues of drying out or mold” because this paint was designed for art students who need inexpensive but reliable mediums that they can use up very quickly and very often without breaking their bank account. What I have heard online is these boxes tend to only last an art student maybe a month, and that the mega 50+ cup versions were created in China for art students who perform a three hour painting challenge as an entrance exam for art school and they must all use the same kit. Those kits have lots of convenience colors so they don’t waste time mixing colors. We’re the ones complaining because we’re the ones misusing the product. Himi is aware of this which is why they have started to sell bottles of gouache moisturizer and mold prevention spray on solution to try to ease our problems.
@@selahr. Thank you for your comment. Very insightful!
Lindsey, I have a couple of tips for you. I saw a CZcamsr (I can't remember her name) use a plastic wallet big enough to put the entire palette in and she said that her Himi gouache paints were drying out so much slower since she had used that to keep the palette in. So I bought one of the plastic wallets on Amazon in A4 size which fits my 24 Himi Gouache set with brush compartment, perfectly. I keep my water spray bottle in the wallet with it and I have a reminder on my phone to prompt me to spray my palette every week, just a fine spritz. Which has kept my gouache nice and moist and helps me to remember to use it to paint more often. Here is the link for the best plastic wallets and cheapest ones I've found:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B075K6FVRD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Also I saw a different CZcamsr (I can't recall her name either) use two drops of clove oil in a small spray bottle of water, which she then sprayed the palette with, the clove oil prevents fungus and bacteria growing on the paint. She said only use up to two drops of the oil because if you use more it can make the paint go funny.
Here is a link to the place you can get the clove oil:
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0791MWCDT/coliid=I3PYYRZ0DR1AB3&colid=2V8RO80E7P28Y&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
I hope these help. God bless you and all those you love Lindsey. Thanks for all your tips, they are always helpful. I love your channel! Have a great day!
I hope those tips help.