Honda GoldWing Trike vs CanAm Spyder for Disabled riders
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- čas přidán 6. 10. 2020
- This video will show the modifications needed for a Honda GoldWing Trike and for a CanAm Spyder so that paraplegic or disable rider can ride it. Talks about advantages of each bike. Find other videos that show the mount and dismount for the disabled rider.
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You’re literally the only video on the Internet that explains any of this stuff. The rest of them are dumb two minute videos with music and other stupid stuff added thanks for your time.
This was very helpful.
I’m not in a wheelchair,
But,
Two knee replacements and RA Keep me from feeling comfortable on two wheels.
Very good video.
Thank You.
Awesome! So glad that you are able to ride and feel the wind on your face! Several years ago I stopped just off the interstate in Guthrie, Oklahoma at a restaurant called Braums(main claim is great ice cream and shakes to go with the food). I was finishing my meal and watching a guy in a wheel chair roll up to a early Can Am trike. As I watched, he proceeded to get himself on the trike, pull the chair, remove the wheels and secured them on one side, folded the chair to fit the other side(I can't remember if he had the side bags), started that baby and was on his way. I was impressed! What I'm getting to is whether you ever thought of trying to use a more collapsable chair to fit behind you, or if that would even work. Plus, you wouldn't be able to fit a passenger. Well, just thinking out loud. Glad you're still riding!!
Awesome John Thanks so much…. I shared it to a friend who is transitioning from a 2 wheeler. Awesome comparison.
Thank you for this video!!! Life happens and unfortunately this what I’m going to turn to if I want to ride again. Your video was very informative.
Nice side by side comparison. 👍🏻 subbing. I too also have been ridding many years. Had a pretty big stroke a few years back which robbed me of my ability to balance, so 2 wheels is not an option anymore. I probably could ride but my wife isn’t up for it. Which I don’t blame her, I don’t know that I would be up for it either, riding alone, maybe but not with a ridder on back. I survived the stroke VERY well. I drive for a living and I do about 23 to 270 miles a day. I have gotten safe driver awards every year and I have many hours of Smith training. Don’t own a Spyder yet but I think I’ll be getting one for this next season. It gets pretty cold here in Illinois in the winter and I didn’t ride in the winter in the past anyway. Great video, subbing. Keep your head on a swivel and stay safe!!
I had a 2008 Hyosung 250 scooter that had the same set-up as the Honda. Good to see that that mod is available to motorcycles....12 years later.
Excellent video. I'm considering buying a GL1800 trike (2005) but I have to have it converted to electric gear shifter as I'm a left leg below knee amputee. I rode motorcycles for 23 years, riding bikes such as the ST1300, GL1800, FJR1300AE, and BMW K1600.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I too am a para but am lower with an L1 incomplete injury so balance is not as much of an issue. I have had a 2014 Spyder RT-S since last summer and it is great to be back in the saddle again after many years of riding. I too wish they would lean but that's a small sacrifice to make.
T-6 injury here so without trunk muscles, balance becomes an issue. Back rest does help a lot to compensate lack of trunk. I feel more stable in turns on the GoldWing.
Impressive video, simple and direct.. thanks
I wish to buy this type of motor cycle please send me the information /iam dis able person /
Thank you for the video it was very educational I am glad you still get out and ride stay safe have fun.🥇🏍🏍🏍🏍
John, WOW great video.
Thank you so much Really your explanation was so much useful to me , I will go with gold wing thanks again ,Saudi Arabia
Nothing compares to that Goldwing DCT. It’s like heaven on wheels.
Fantastic bikes. Well executed appointments.
Very informative video. Thank you for sharing your experience and insight.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Arcimoto now owns Tilting Motorworks which made leaning front ends for motorcycles. They made conversion kits to turn a two wheeler into a reverse trike. It allowed the trike to stand upright on its own, to auto adjust to the self-balancing upright position at 5 MPH or slower, and meant you didn't have to plant your feet on the ground as soon as you came to a stop. Arcimoto makes the FUV (Fun Utility Vehicle) which is basically a trike with an open air roll cage. Various door options exist. The riders have to use two overlapping safety belts to strap in to prevent them from falling out on turns. It should be much easier for you to mount it as it is set more at normal sitting height for a chair. Not sure if that makes sense. I don't have one but I have seen loads of their videos.
One other type of leaning trike you may like is the Carver One. It is fully enclosed. The front portion / cabin leans into the turns while the two rear wheels and motor remain vertical. Interior is very much like a normal motorcycle. It carries two people in tandem. They also make a cargo variation of it. There are gasoline and electric versions of the Carver leaning trike.
There are also specially made trikes for wheelchair users that allow you to roll into the rear of the trike, lock your chair down, you don't have to get off the wheelchair, and then the rest of the vehicle is more like a traditional trike. There is also the tank chair but I believe that is geared more for trails, off road adventures, the beach, etc.
Brilliant review. I am searching for a heavy bike for myself.
Nice video, good info. Best regards from Aruba.
I’m also a paraplegic rider. Much respect to you 😎👍
congrats man i admire your spirit
clever engineering. best wishes from the u k . I cannot ride a geared bike now as i have trouble with my left foot. i have 4 twist and go scooters . i am 73 and still love riding.
Thank you I own a 2013 spyder trip looking to upgrade to gold wing I’m 5.1 I like gold wing for its smooth ride and easy to work on I search for 2 wheels in front goldwing and look at tiling motor works you have 2 wheels in front and you can lean like no other the conversion starts at 13k they are equipped with air shocks watch CZcams videos I enjoyed watching your video it will help me make a informed decision thank you ride safe
Thank you for sharing. I am looking to get a trike and have mobility issues so I wanted to know if they could be modified in the future. I still don’t know what to get but this helps.
Great work. Thank you
Very Informative!
You might like the Honda neowing if they ever make it. Great video
Hi John, I lost my right leg and use a prosthetic . I have a Goldwing trike and also moved my foot brake the same way you did. Been thinking of the can am after seeing your video I think I will stick with my wing, Thanks Much,
Thanks Rom, how did you stumble across my video? Glad that you did.
Hello john l am from morrocco l am very happy to be your friend l am so handicape
I'm going to get some sort of 3 wheeler in the future due to having a 25 year old autistic son (who would not be terribly stable on the back of a two wheel) we want to be able to take him with us when we decide to take bikes out. 👍🏻
Excellent video! 😊
Great review
Thank you sir.
Awesome video
Good video thanks
Mantap..!Layaknya sepda motor seperti itu, bukan hanya untuk penyandang disabilitas agar lebih nyaman, roda dua tidak layak karena beresiko tinggi
Thank you very much
WOW ! beautiful three wheeled motorcycle .
Thanks 👍
I look at a Spyder, looked at the reviews and decided to go with 2019 HD Tri-Glide Ultra. I am getting use to riding a trike, in reference to turns...etc...
And though there is a difference in regards to riding, from a traditional motorcycle...finding its pretty easy.
Good to see ya still riding 👊respect👊! If your ever down in the Arizona area, give me a heads-up...I'll ride with ya!!👍
Good video.god bless 👍❤🙏
I've always liked trikes but never understood why they never engineered some lean into them, it really is the Goldilocks zone of riding. There are kits that give trikes lean but they are so expensive that it's eye watering.
Great question?
Very nice.....
Do you have more of a 2 wheel feeling riding the Goldwing? Love the video Mr Dains. Thank you for your service. I rode bikes for many years before beoming a T-8 para. The backrest for Spyders are excellent imo. I understand the issues of not counter steering and leaning but would like to know if you get a more motorcycle feeling (even if it's going straight) with the Goldwing? Most able body people don't understand what I'm asking. If anyone is reading this I would like to hear anyone's opinion who's disabled and have ridden both. Thanks to all and stay safe.
Driving the Spyder is a lot like riding an ATV down the road. That is what it feels like because you have those two wheels out in front of you that are so visible and so receptive to a quick turn of the handlebars. Whereas the Gold Wing being a normal trike, you do see the normal looking front end so you think of yourself as being on a normal two wheeler, until you come to a turn and realize that you cannot take the turn at the same speed as a leaning two wheeler, then reality hits that you are on a trike.
I was looking to get a Can-Am spider. I have cerebral palsy wheelchair dependent. I would need some kind of rack that I could put my folding wheelchair on the back of the Can-Am spider somehow because the trailer wouldn’t be an option for me if you know anybody or have any ideas of any kind of Rack for a folding wheelchair I’d be interested. Thanks for your time.
Very cool.
What cost the Honda trike in total iż onli heve 1leg
for wheelchair carry there is a rack called "tilt & tote' that fits on back in the reece receiver. I also have one on my car. Much cheaper than a trailer. depending on the source seller, the Tilt and Tote is $150-$500. seems like same thing, so the $500 guy is gouging.
Great video it was very informative. Can you tell me where I could get these options and what they may cost. I am a bi-lateral bk amputee and want to do the goldwing route. Thanks so much god bless
The cost to get that handbrake added was about $2500. Not as much in labor as there was in buying parts to do it. The company that did it specializes in Gold Wing upgrades. Traxxion Dynamics in GA. Here is one of his videos: czcams.com/video/kObl2LswTWs/video.html
Could you have a rack behind the passenger sit in the Honda so once you sit you could transfer your chair yourself? I mean you fold your chair and place it on that rack, then secure it with some clips or elastic bands. Just a thought...
Some do prefer to do that but I prefer to tow it in the trailer
Very informative video. Will share with a para' friend.
Just a thought. Would putting velcro on your jacket and the backrest help with keeping you "stuck" to the backrest?
Would not work for me because then when I want to intentionally shift my weight, it would be too difficult
@@neemafastcat fair comment fella!
Velcro WTF!! 😬 seriously..”
We do what we gotta to stay in the wind !
I own the Honda Goldwing DCT, I was told and shown the front brake does actually actuate the rear brake as well. like 80/20 or something like that. the rear brake only does the rear and the front works both.
I was told several things by several "experts". Got my bike lifted in the air and did all test to prove it one way or the other. Guess you should do the same so you will know without a doubt.
@@neemafastcat Doesn't really matter to me as i primarily 95% of the time work the front. I just thought i'd share with you what i was told. Have a great day.
Good day Sir,,i am Jerico Felices frm Libmanan Camarines Sur province of the Philippines,,,i am also a disabled person,,i wish that i can have like ur motors,,it is very expencive here in the Philippines if u buy that thing,,,i don't have a money to buy it
Great video! If you can only chose one, which one is it gonna be?
only choose one to keep, the Honda.
I've thought about a spyder a number of times. Thanks for sharing. How are you feet at staying on the floor boards? Any issues?
Can Am comes with very large floorboards from manufacturer. For the Gold Wing, I had to add the big floorboards. With either bike, keeping my feet on the boards has not been a problem. I don't do anything extra, they just seem to stay on the floorboards with no issue.
Very nice motorcycle ihope I can experience again to be able to drive even though ihave a paraplegic T12 my name is jayson,,
I myself like the three wheels
Nice 👍👍👍👍👍
Iam dis able person how ican get this motor cicle? From ehiopia kobolca wollo
Ride safe😊
Would you can you tell me who did the installation of the rear brake system on the gold wing? thanks
Traxxion Dynamics from Georgia. He has video of the bike here: czcams.com/video/kObl2LswTWs/video.html
I'm confused. If you have a problem keeping your balance and got backrest to help with your balance, why would you want the bike to lean!??! Please explain.
When the bike does the leaning, your body stays the same on the bike and no trunk muscles are needed. Therefore, you are able take turns much faster and with more stability.
very informative and unbias
Big cost difference between the two? I started with a wing, then went to a spyder.
If new, by the time you get a Gold Wing then get a trike kit added, it would cost more than a RT LTD Spyder. But buying used, you would find that you could get either. Seems that the Gold Wing trikes really hold their resale value.
With a goldwing no matter what you do with it it's still overrated and my personal view with owner ship I rode it less than any other toy I owned
I have a question. So do you just keep an extra wheelchair in the trailer at all times? Because I'm just wondering how it would be to try to put that away once you're on the bike. I'm kind of in the same situation as you I'm missing my right leg so I can't use the brake on a motorcycle or on the Can-Am. Great video though. Very informative
Yes, I haul the wheelchair in the trailer and I do not load or unload it myself. You will see many guys that outfit a bracket on the bike because they want to be independent when they ride. In my case, I rarely ride alone plus I wanted to have a trailer with me. Since I wanted to tow a trailer anyway, it only makes sense to use the trailer for hauling the wheelchair too. I will be making a brace like a bicycle rack, that I can put in the hitch mount so that I can hang the wheelchair and tires on the bike rack. But even then, I will use an AbleBody to place it on the rack. If you look on youtube, you will find many other options for the rack that allows you to ride independently.
@@neemafastcat thank you for getting back to me on that
💨💨💨♿️Wowww...My Dreams 😍
I guess I'm doing the Spyder
Have you seen the Goldwing reverse trike? There is the Endeavor, the R18 Sturgis and the tilt-lock… They even have a quad…
At the time of this video, that reverse trike was from Tilting Motor Works, but has now been sold and re-branded. The problem with Tilting Motor Works is that you have to turn off the bike and the balancing system off after you are done riding. When you do this, you have to put the bike on the kickstand and a crip like me is not able to do that. Bike has a chance of falling the other way when you turn that TMW off. If TMW could make it so the bike is balanced (stiff) when turned off, I would have done TMW. That was not an option.
What company or where does one purchase your left hand brake setup?
In the US, it came from Traxxion Dynamics. Great guy that runs the shop and they have great mechanics. You can find videos under his name and even see this bike in the video he made. czcams.com/video/kObl2LswTWs/video.html
@@neemafastcat Thanks John!
how do you transfer from chair to seat?
See other video here for transfer. czcams.com/video/FWx4nQZsTsc/video.html
What did the brake change cost and where can get it done.
what machine are you asking about? Brake lever had to be mounted on each one.
If it's hard to use the Can am hand brake the master cylinder has the wrong ratio
Not sure if I missed it but don't think you mentioned Price difference. I would assume the Honda would be Much more due to converting it to 3 wheels which Spyder already has. retail for GW IS 29K AND SYDER RT IS 23K and thats not including trike conversion. just saying..
Really really good point. I was kinda thinking the appeal was all in the price of the Spyder. I'd like to pick one up still, even if it is twitchy I'd like to experience some freedom. Maybe pick up a hot mom or something. It's too bad they wont design something for us Paras to ride from the factory that has some articulation but I'd still be thrilled to go adventuring on a can am with decent tires.
Интересно, какой вариант более безопасно?
كم السعر من فضلك شكرا 🌹
Bao nhiêu tiền Việt Nam vậy
Semper - Fi
Было бы круто, если передная часть белого и задняя часть красного соединить. Не самодельный,а с завода...
I want to buy the spider from you 👍🏾
There is a after market front 2 wheel lean conversion!
Tilting Motorworks was my first choice. The problem with that model is when you are done riding and turn the balancing system OFF. The bike does not stay upright and is too heavy for me to lean onto a kickstand and to make sure it does not fall to the right.
👍🏾
How much?
Hey bro, I am late to this video and u prob know about this but, as far as leaning, u should look into a company called tilting motor works. That is exactly what they do to a motorcycle. It leans.
You are right about Tilting Motor Works and I looked at them, the problem with TMW is when you turn that system to OFF when you are done riding, the bike is no longer balancing and you must lean it over onto the kickstand gently. That is the part I could not do. There was even a chance it would fall the other direction. If the default position of TMW when OFF was stiff, and straight up and down, I would have have one because I really want a leaning bike. TMW told me the system has to be powered off or it will drain the battery.
@@neemafastcat I see! Yes that def makes it inoperable for your need. I bad a feeling you would know about them. I love your rides bro. If you had to pick only one, the can am or the Goldwing trike, which would u pick? Id have to go Goldwing just for the longevity.
I am disabled like you what kind of brake kit can I get for my goldwing trike to control both front and rear brakes and were can I purchase the kit
Welton Locklear
@welton, where are you located? What year and model of GW?
@@neemafastcat close to fayetteville nc 2005 goldwing 1800
@@weltonlocklear652 seach down this guy in GA. He seems to specialize in work on Gold Wings. Traxxion Dynamics from Georgia. He has video of the bike here: czcams.com/video/kObl2LswTWs/video.html
@@neemafastcat thanks
Total price comparison please. I am newly disabled as far as my legs, but have always loved riding. I’m not in a chair yet, but I probably will be soon.
Hey Matt, tough to do a price comparison really. If you want to compare new prices, there are so many optional Spyder models to pick from. Some CanAm Ryder three wheelers are as low as about $10,000 new, then the full dressed electric shift Spyder RT LTD like in the video cost about $27,000 new. As for the Gold Wing, it is only sold new from Honda as a two-wheeler, so if you bought an Gold Wing DCT (automatic), you could expect to pay $25,000 to - $27,000 then have to pay another $15,000 for the trike kit like you see on this one. Both machines are readily available in the "used" market world so you would have many to select from. Keep in mind that Honda Gold Wing DCT did not start till 2018. Many guys out there still buy shifting models and add an air shifter. Hope this helped you have a better idea of costs. No matter which one you shop for, I would say that you have to spend at least $15,000 for a decent used bike.
@@neemafastcat Thanks John I’ve got an old ‘79 Suzuki I’ve had for about 10 years now, but no way I could ever lift that up again, so I’ll have to find a new “thing”
Hi Mr. I am Mulugeta goshu . I am handcap man , I live in Ethiopia which is in Africa. I like the video. since I live in underdeveloping country I need your support. can you help me how can I get canAm spyde ( the red one ) .
Check out tilting motor works
The problem with Tilting Motor Works is that you have to turn off the bike and the balancing system. When you do this, you have to put the bike on the kickstand and a wheeler is not able to do that. Bike has a chance of falling the other way when you turn that TMW off. If TMW could make it so the bike is balanced (stiff) when turned off, I would have done TMW. That was not an option.
Why do you need 2 trikes
Hey ....I'm disabled I was a rider ....I'm still thinking 🤔 about
Goldwing là niềm ước mơ hơn 3/4 dân số thế giới
I am dis able person and I am Living in ethiopia kombolcha wollo house number 350 kebele 02 so I Like tobuy the spaider motor cycle and How much the slling price so how I can get it?
To je ona, čo vyzerá ako auto. Koľko stojí.
Я не ездил на мото , поэтому такие вопросы
They make the goldwing titling reverse trike.
Right, and that was my first choice because I wanted a leaning bike for turns. The problem with that bike comes when you are done riding. The balancing system has to be turned off and the bike then leaned over onto the kickstand. That is the part I could not do as it is a very heavy bike. Also, to much chance of the bike laying over the wrong way once I turn off system. If that bike would default to balanced, that is a good option.
you need a wheel chair rack on the back fender of the wing a friend has one on his wing you can see it on this video
czcams.com/video/u_C2TncWxk0/video.html
Nice sir...can I ride it for free.im person with disability to.from Philippines.
Hello was it cheaper to get the add on trike kit on the honda dct ? I see some honda dct trikes costs over 35k to 40k ready to go. I wanted to see the difference in price.
Basically buying a used honda dct 2018 or newer and adding the trike how much it will cost me
Instead of buying a DCT then adding the Trike kit, I think I would try to find a DCT already converted. If you purchase the DCT without conversion, then pay for the conversion, I think it will cost you more money.
@@neemafastcat thanks. I will try to look at it. I think I saw some trike for 3 to 5k. The honda trike ready to go is over 35k easily.
Used honda i saw is 18k to 20k the dct model plus the trike maybe 5k. That's way under 30k
My husband (coachbob3) has a Can Am Spyder RT. I ride with him and have, on occasion, driven it while he brakes for me...ha! (Check out : I’m a Dangerous Woman” on his channel!🙂)
Considering getting a hand brake or my own Ryker. Where did you get the handbrake? How much was it? Did you do the installation yourself? Also, how do you like the Apex wheelchair?
Yes, I have seen CoachBob3's videos and those with you. The handbrake is from ISCI. They will sell the kit or you go to them for installation. isciride.com/products/hand-brake-system/ Be sure to ask about a brake lever more designed for a female hand. Ths guy from AdvancedMotoability may have something too. www.advancedmotobility.se/sv/mc-anpassningar/can-am-anpassningar/ As for the Apex, check back in a few weeks, I am posting a video comparison of the Apex vs Panthera lightweights.
Hi Coachvic, I seen a lot of your hubby and your videos. I just wanted to say you’re very beautiful 😻 and he’s blessed to have such an earth angel..”
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