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  • Santa Cruz Bicycles: 1994 gegründet, hat das Unternehmen mittlerweile den Ruf, besonders schick designte, schnelle und begehrte Bikes zu bauen. Wir hatten vergangenes Jahr eine Umfrage dazu gemacht - das Feedback war: die meisten finden die Bikes geil und hätten gerne eins, wenn nur der Preis nicht so hoch wäre…
    Gegründet haben Santa Cruz Bicycles Rob Roskopp und Rich Novak. Rich gehörte zu dem Zeitpunkt schon mit zwei Partnern Santa Cruz Skateboards, auf denen der Skate-Profi Rob Roskopp damals unterwegs war - Santa Cruz Skateboards hatte passend dazu früher auch ein “Roskopp” - Sondermodell herausgebracht. Gemeinsam entwickelten Rob und Rich ihr erstes Bike, zur Konstruktion holten sie noch Mike Marquez (Federungs-Entwickler, ist mittlerweile bei Fox) und Tom Morris (Designer) dazu. Das Bike wurde das Tazmon, ein Eingelenker mit 3 Inch (7,6 cm) Federweg; im Jahr darauf folgte das Heckler mit 4 Inch Federweg.
    Seit 2006 ist Santa Cruz der Hauptsponsor des Santa Cruz Syndicate, das mit Steve Peat, Greg Minnaar und Josh Bryceland regelmäßig auf den Siegerpodesten des Downhill-Worldcups vertreten ist.
    Santa Cruz Bicycles begann in Räumen, die in etwas so groß wie eine Garage waren, mittlerweile ist man nach Jahren in der Bronson Street vorletztes Jahr in die Mission Street umgezogen, wo viel Platz für Entwicklung, Montage, Tests sowie Verwaltung, Showroom und Fan-Shop ist. Global Marketing Director Will Ockelton hat uns dort dort eine Tour gegeben, die auch für uns, die wir schon etliche Bike-Firmen von innen gesehen haben, einiges an Überraschungen enthielt.
    Film ab für den Santa Cruz Hausbesuch!
    mtbn.ws/n27ut More reports: www.mtb-news.de/news/category/...
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  • @idkdrew
    @idkdrew Před 7 lety +73

    bro im crossfaded af and that thumbnail confused the fuck out of me

  • @giovanniianpatria7693
    @giovanniianpatria7693 Před 3 lety +1

    it would be a nice gift for me this xmas....just wishin'

  • @order9066
    @order9066 Před 7 lety +316

    My Santa Cruz Superlight developed a crack in the rear triangle, I fixed it by purchasing a Giant Trance.

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum Před 7 lety +30

      That's a step backwards. Giant are best known for making bikes cheap, rather than making them good. People just assume they're good, because that's what everyone else keeps telling them. It's mass production, that's where they started, and that's what they still do.
      Lots of bikes develop cracks after years of hard use, so fair enough that you replaced it, otherwise file it in for warranty.

    • @UlyssesYarbrough
      @UlyssesYarbrough Před 7 lety +27

      probably cracked because they sent it off that jump thing

    • @amielswanepoel
      @amielswanepoel Před 7 lety

      order9066 I

    • @buaunaball194
      @buaunaball194 Před 7 lety +10

      You mean Crack'n'fail?

    • @dartwadermovies
      @dartwadermovies Před 7 lety +14

      Cannondales are so gay, overpriced and weigh too much. You could bike from another brand, save money and get a better kit with better weight. I'll pass. 6000 dollar xc bike and it does not even have a full xtr build but a xtr and xt mix? Fuck that...

  • @BehsUnited
    @BehsUnited Před 7 lety +20

    the bleeping on this video was top notch! haha

    • @Mike-wc7em
      @Mike-wc7em Před 7 lety +3

      I was just to cover names...

  • @BrianGomez-tp9mk
    @BrianGomez-tp9mk Před 6 lety

    I started my mountain biking adventures with a 26 V 2100 Walmart mountain bike. These Santa Cruz bike's are fenominal.

  • @Doody_TTV
    @Doody_TTV Před 7 lety +3

    Epic... i would love to work somewhere like that :)

  • @jackrawlings3829
    @jackrawlings3829 Před 7 lety +1

    Man I would love one of the Santa Cruz bikes 👍😍🙀

  • @Katsoulinos
    @Katsoulinos Před 7 lety

    Loooooooool Greetings from Greece! Speedbump answered some off my questions on the support line...

  • @SourPatchPuss
    @SourPatchPuss Před 6 lety +3

    I love this dudes sense of humor!

  • @heavystarch100
    @heavystarch100 Před 6 lety

    Just lock me in there overnight, and let me keep what I assemble in the morning!! Lol😛

  • @exinfernnus
    @exinfernnus Před 5 lety

    Oh man, it's like a candy store. The components, the wheels, just awesome. But look at the Nomad - they got it 2 years later.

  • @finley_rob6980
    @finley_rob6980 Před 6 lety

    Love the way that the guy making he bike is wearing a fox tee shirt

  • @cupnoodle1019
    @cupnoodle1019 Před 7 lety +64

    Low-key extreme click bait

    • @bens585
      @bens585 Před 7 lety +18

      Aidan Wakley thumbnail is at 14:47 so why??

    • @MrtinVarela
      @MrtinVarela Před 7 lety +5

      +Aidan Wakley They put the featured bit just at the very end of the video for a couple quick shots.
      Not misleading but still very dirty.

    • @bhew7409
      @bhew7409 Před 6 lety

      Thanks for the timestamp Bence I only came for that, shame it was so short.

  • @rhailanderbmw1096
    @rhailanderbmw1096 Před 6 lety

    Me apaixonei por essas bikes,❤😍

  • @baudilioaguilar5475
    @baudilioaguilar5475 Před 6 lety

    This was like watching an episode of the office :)

  • @aaronbaranosky8072
    @aaronbaranosky8072 Před 7 lety

    Thumbs up for the Bl'ast flyer!

  • @nickrogers6441
    @nickrogers6441 Před 7 lety +3

    Loved the video.

  • @theplaylister9810
    @theplaylister9810 Před 6 lety +5

    The green bike is at 14:42

  • @henrykomar6858
    @henrykomar6858 Před 6 lety +7

    "that nomad looks vaguely familiar"
    - every other mountain biker, 2018

    • @godaman2277
      @godaman2277 Před 5 lety

      Henry Komar હું tujh fu
      Ghvgg

  • @emiliosobarzo2111
    @emiliosobarzo2111 Před 7 lety +1

    a paradise

  • @sztigirigi
    @sztigirigi Před 7 lety +41

    Better show where those carbon frames are being produced. This is the real tech. And I don't think it's done in US. (maybe Giant factory in Taiwan?)

    • @Domowoi2
      @Domowoi2 Před 7 lety +1

      I don't think any carbon frames are built in the US anymore? There might be an exception, but the labor is just too expensive to do it here.

    • @boboutelama5748
      @boboutelama5748 Před 7 lety +2

      If I remember right, the swiss commerce chamber calculated that the increase of the price for a "swiss made" carbon fiber frame (or any heavy machinery), is around 18% more, in the final price.
      Please, don't forget that the price Santa-Cruz buys in Asia is nothing near the price we pay. So, for a frame, we are speaking about a 140$ difference, that I would be glad to pay if they would care about their customers. The problem is, after they took their 300% margins, those "little fees" are making a big difference.
      I would like Santa-Cruz, and other great american bike builders, to overthink their actual strategy. There is nothing to gain in taking us for stupid goats. I was seriously interested in a Bronson, but their way of doing is bad, and I don't buy overexpensive penis enlargers.

    • @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL
      @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL Před 7 lety +2

      many are buying Santa Cruz Bronson... but you seem to not be able to save up... DON'T CHEAT YOURSELF... TREAT YOURSELF! If you can't afford Carbon just get Aluminum. it's only $6000!

    • @boboutelama5748
      @boboutelama5748 Před 7 lety

      I actually drive a part carbon / part aluminium, from a german Brand called Alutech. It works well, it is sturdy like the old kona's, and is a good compromise of weight and sturdyness (in direction of sturdyness). I like this bike. But I would have bought SantaCruz if the price policy would not have been what it is now.

    • @cornishalps9870
      @cornishalps9870 Před 7 lety +1

      SANTA CRUZ BRO'NSON just get an orange or a yt

  • @chrisnielsen5287
    @chrisnielsen5287 Před 6 lety +6

    6:05 whitest moment of the entire video

  • @muhammedsinofar5646
    @muhammedsinofar5646 Před 6 lety

    super

  • @davinhiscock290
    @davinhiscock290 Před 2 lety

    Love the cruise but can never afford to buy one ever

  • @angelespino3563
    @angelespino3563 Před 7 lety +2

    Stay nice and white

  • @alexvasiliu1348
    @alexvasiliu1348 Před 6 lety

    What was that bike with two forks front and back?

  • @january3929
    @january3929 Před 7 lety

    wish could buy a Santa Cruz bike but I have no money USD that I can buy I am 14 years old live in Philippines I am simple boy I love all you guys making bike 😊😢😊

  • @nearzer0662
    @nearzer0662 Před 7 lety +4

    I need a job like that

  • @YourNickIsTaken
    @YourNickIsTaken Před 6 lety +3

    I've just met the only British man who says "fock you, leave me alone" instead of "excuse me Sir, we are in a middle of a marketing film shooting".

  • @poopyeet4635
    @poopyeet4635 Před 6 lety

    Nice and white

  • @markus7863
    @markus7863 Před 2 lety

    @4:21 ....the look in the face: "Wth ya talkin ´bout?"

  • @Jimskateuk
    @Jimskateuk Před 5 lety +9

    The way he pronouces 'aloominum' must of been in his contract of employment

  • @jojorice4594
    @jojorice4594 Před rokem +1

    can you put engine on this bike ?

  • @wiciekus
    @wiciekus Před 7 lety +3

    AND THIS IS ORYGINAL DIRT ;p

  • @my_name_is_chef4856
    @my_name_is_chef4856 Před 6 lety +2

    I wish I could work there

  • @bradymoritz
    @bradymoritz Před 7 lety

    nice jet bandsaw.

  • @connerandconnor9026
    @connerandconnor9026 Před 7 lety

    I saw a couple on the trail riding one of those tandems that's in the thumbnail

    • @carterkosick6926
      @carterkosick6926 Před 7 lety +1

      ConnerandConnor the bike in the thumbnail is not a tandem bike.

  • @Quinnebaug
    @Quinnebaug Před 6 lety

    Wish they'd start putting all the parts in the box

  • @jamaicandandada1
    @jamaicandandada1 Před 6 lety

    Wish I had one of them bikes

  • @RickyDownhillRDH
    @RickyDownhillRDH Před 6 lety +1

    I had that old Super 8, same color, at the 12:53 mark, it was my first DH bike. My buddy still has it! Breaking bumps were TERRIBLE on that thing!!

    • @JohnBooth
      @JohnBooth Před 2 lety +1

      I had one too and thought any hill you couldn't carry speed over was way worse than any braking bumps. Did your's have the rear disk IS mount mine didn't?

    • @RickyDownhillRDH
      @RickyDownhillRDH Před 2 lety +1

      @@JohnBooth I had a front disc and rear caliper brake. My buddy somehow modified it with a rear brake and a 26" rear tire. The 24 inch rear tire was treacherous. Funny, I JUST got it back from him, I'm going to turn it into wall art for my workshop/garage.

  • @sethjacobson1324
    @sethjacobson1324 Před 7 lety

    I like the super 8

  • @boboutelama5748
    @boboutelama5748 Před 7 lety +86

    No carbon machine, no soldering anywhere going on.
    Asia bike with US sticker.

    • @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL
      @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL Před 7 lety +5

      Bob Outélama most bikes are made by giant overseas...

    • @boboutelama5748
      @boboutelama5748 Před 7 lety +9

      It's sad my dear Bronson friends. I didn't liked Giant in the times, and I didn't like them now. So I enjoyed those crazy Kona, those incredibly nimble Ellsworth's, those bulky Intense and mad machines of Cyclecraft... now I have only one choice left, and i hate this.
      We have a friend that bought a chinese cross country carbon frame for 400$, we saw that this is the exact same frame as sold by Specialized for 2'600$. Even some very specific details in the integration of the screws are the same.
      This will not last long, and peoples will start to buy the chinese originals, and not the 6x pricier rebrands. America has contributed so much in the mountainbike sports, I would find it sad, that capitalism destroys the core of this industry.

    • @mtadams2009
      @mtadams2009 Před 7 lety +2

      I call it the China Syndrome, people want everything on the cheap. It has spread into everything. People go on the internet and get the cheapest cost, they don't seem to care how it was made or the quality. Take care

    • @JamsTomatoReviews1
      @JamsTomatoReviews1 Před 7 lety

      Bob Outélama so what Chinese brands would you suggest? That is the same quality bike as santa cruz, etc.?

    • @stephendeben1590
      @stephendeben1590 Před 7 lety +1

      Bob Outélama at 3:08 "this is where all the frames, all the kit comes into here and we still assemble everything" so it's China made USA assembled.

  • @DineshKumar-wc6dm
    @DineshKumar-wc6dm Před 6 lety +1

    what is the best MTB or Road bike pls answer thanks

    • @mtbnews
      @mtbnews  Před 6 lety

      This depends on the intended area of use

    • @khewitthome1436
      @khewitthome1436 Před 3 lety

      The one that bring the most FUN for the ridder!!!!

  • @playstationfreak1111
    @playstationfreak1111 Před 7 lety

    i sure want some "shuram" components on my santa cruz

  • @dylankram4846
    @dylankram4846 Před 3 lety

    Are you guys going to reply to customer emails sent over a week ago?

  • @gaochdodadigsjalv802
    @gaochdodadigsjalv802 Před 6 lety

    Why did i get a annabelle ad before this kind of video?

  • @NovoGold
    @NovoGold Před 6 lety

    But where are the frames and parts made...??? Not the US...!!!

  • @dailymountainbikevids3077

    at what age do you hire?

  • @pushpakghosh1712
    @pushpakghosh1712 Před 6 lety

    Butfull

  • @tiamorley86
    @tiamorley86 Před 6 lety

    I only just bought a Cruz but I have an endreuo and giant trance 2

  • @charleshennings5134
    @charleshennings5134 Před 6 lety +1

    "still managed to *stay* nice and *white* " ... o.O

  • @jarrodjames1820
    @jarrodjames1820 Před 7 lety +3

    #merida

  • @bananasoupny
    @bananasoupny Před 6 lety

    He said he was nice and white as if he was Superior

  • @Babba16
    @Babba16 Před 7 lety

    06:04 after that moment I´m sure it was a Joke from Santa Cruz and we all did not get it. Like The Office or Parks and Recreation, just so good you arent seeing its fake, Respect Santa Cruz.

    • @Babba16
      @Babba16 Před 7 lety +1

      or 4:19 ,goofy look, than SMACK the frame

    • @Babba16
      @Babba16 Před 7 lety +1

      07:04 ITS ALL A JOOOOKEEEE

  • @lorenzogaglioti1613
    @lorenzogaglioti1613 Před 6 lety

    ma la regalate una hecler 2006 blu eletrica al mio amico ?

  • @pluo
    @pluo Před 6 lety

    I went there

  • @caanT
    @caanT Před 6 lety

    What happens to the bikes?

    • @mtbnews
      @mtbnews  Před 6 lety

      Which bikes?

    • @caanT
      @caanT Před 6 lety

      MTB-News.de all of them, do they sit around and collect dust

    • @mtbnews
      @mtbnews  Před 6 lety

      The special ones (like prototypes etc) I guess so, yes. The regular ones are sold, obviously 👍

  • @artemaso
    @artemaso Před 6 lety

    Funky bike at 14:43

  • @sampdunn6353
    @sampdunn6353 Před 7 lety +8

    It is literally spelled AL-U-MIN-I-UM how does that change to aloominum, you're english...

    • @jtperez657
      @jtperez657 Před 7 lety +8

      Sam P dunn aluminum is actually the proper spelling for North America

    • @alexpriajinski
      @alexpriajinski Před 7 lety +3

      Sam P dunn and that is the proper way to pronounce it in the states

    • @Tocco609
      @Tocco609 Před 6 lety

      That's wierd cause definitely didn't say he was English or anything..... Or have an accent

    • @MegaGreenpeas
      @MegaGreenpeas Před 6 lety

      your*

  • @JEsauRomano
    @JEsauRomano Před 7 lety

    nice and white?

  • @stephanieking9242
    @stephanieking9242 Před 9 měsíci

    Great bike , rides smooth czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L I added a bigger spring loaded seat to it . Takes a bit of adjusting cables to get brakes and shifting to perfect . I've owned quite a few bikes in the past that were absolutely uncomfortable to ride and they always ended up as garage wall decor . I'm not seeing that with this one. It's pretty light I've only ridden it a few miles but I like it . As for the pedals falling off in the other reviews , the pedal arms are aluminum along with the pedal studs look to be also . I would not overtighten them. I can see it would be very easy to overtighten them and strip the threads right off . All in all I think it's pretty good quality besides the aluminum pedal thing

  • @m8shift
    @m8shift Před 7 lety

    Nice and white? your blue m8, Nice bike's tho..

  • @Toastybear1
    @Toastybear1 Před 6 lety

    So after all that work- you throw the bikes across the room? 😂

  • @tsegaro-ftg7973
    @tsegaro-ftg7973 Před 6 lety

    Who else noticed when the guy spoke to Americans he spoke with an accent

  • @vincenzo8248
    @vincenzo8248 Před 5 lety

    *N I C E A N D W H I T E*

  • @fonzo9405
    @fonzo9405 Před 6 lety

    fun fact: Santa Cruz also produces long boards and skate boards

    • @mtbnews
      @mtbnews  Před 6 lety

      No, that is a different company

    • @fonzo9405
      @fonzo9405 Před 6 lety

      MTB-News.de 3:18 look at the guy in the back... *whispers* I beg to differ

  • @yukimoto3770
    @yukimoto3770 Před 6 lety +1

    can I have 1 :( I really love santa cruz bikes :( haysss but its too expensive :(

  • @michaelrupp3178
    @michaelrupp3178 Před 7 lety

    amerika ist ein cooles land ..... wenn da nur nich soviele amis wohnen würden.

  • @food4u598
    @food4u598 Před 4 lety

    Santa cruz cycles need to be in india also. Not found any where

  • @litogamer172
    @litogamer172 Před 6 lety

    Pro

  • @wildmanfyfe1528
    @wildmanfyfe1528 Před 7 lety

    "Front Triangle" ITS A FUCKING A FRAME

  • @Tonyplat98
    @Tonyplat98 Před 6 lety

    you won't find these in your local wallmart xD

  • @h0meb0y0nthespectrum5
    @h0meb0y0nthespectrum5 Před 6 lety

    What's wrong with not staying white

  • @user-mu8ie3vv6o
    @user-mu8ie3vv6o Před 6 lety

    14:43 the thumbnail

  • @peterlang5047
    @peterlang5047 Před 6 lety

    They put the beeps a second to early.

  • @allanlara7870
    @allanlara7870 Před 7 lety

    can you give me even the reject parts in the Philippines that is one of the expensive bike

  • @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL
    @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL Před 7 lety

    SANTA CRUZ FOR LIFE!

    • @boboutelama5748
      @boboutelama5748 Před 7 lety +2

      They are dying. So live your life as fast as you can.

    • @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL
      @AN-DREW-ON-THE-WALL Před 7 lety +1

      how do you figure? why are they dying?

    • @boboutelama5748
      @boboutelama5748 Před 7 lety +3

      Diverse reasons :
      - None of those are made in the USA anymore and peoples are starting to complain about them. You know your brand has problems when peoples start to make fun about your products when spotted outdoor. It's the case for Santa-Cruz in this exact moment.
      - There is no visual nor qualitative differences to asian bikes of the medium segment.
      - Santa-Cruz bikes are very prone to be stolen. It's a nightmare, so only rich peoples can afford to buy them new and secure them properly.
      - The rich peoples are making less and less Mountainbike. It's the young generation that is very active, and this demographic don't have 4'000$ for a single bike frame.
      - If your actual nominated President said the truth, Santa-Cruz will not be able to import their frames from abroad anymore. They lost their metal specialized workers long ago. They are actually screwed.
      In some aspects, Santa-Cruz is already dead, because the spirit of the brand is gone. It wasn't meant to be a brand for rich hipsters. That's what they are now.
      The timer is ticking fast.

  • @kadardoktorno
    @kadardoktorno Před 6 lety

    Thumbnail at 14:42

  • @transtornobipolhaco1102
    @transtornobipolhaco1102 Před 7 lety +1

    Rob Roskopp?

  • @rogerlax3371
    @rogerlax3371 Před 7 lety +2

    haha you misspelled bicycles just a little bit. nice shop though

    • @mtbnews
      @mtbnews  Před 7 lety

      Thanks for the hint, just fixed it.

  • @Dave-ev2ni
    @Dave-ev2ni Před 7 lety +9

    managed to stay nice and white ?

  • @jim_brandon
    @jim_brandon Před 7 lety +49

    why am I watching this shit??

  • @mactire3962
    @mactire3962 Před 7 lety

    Ratcheting down the crank with the torque wrench is terrible build practice, the calibration on the torque wrench will be off constantly....couldnt afford to get him a normal wrench ?

  • @richleavitt73
    @richleavitt73 Před 7 lety

    Curtis, Can you accidentally put my address on one of those?!!

  • @richard.c3901
    @richard.c3901 Před 7 lety +78

    Aluminum!! You're English are you? It's Aluminium all day long. Get a grip.

    • @dwaynedunlop5125
      @dwaynedunlop5125 Před 7 lety +3

      I couldnt agree more. but if he wants to let the yanky bastards rubb off on him then let him but Americans need to realise they can not Americanise our english language and try to tamper with the placing of numbers when it comes to writing the date

    • @micky_mc_mullet1992
      @micky_mc_mullet1992 Před 6 lety

      Richard Coker the part where he asked "CURTIS THE MAIN MAN FOR SOME KNUCKLES" i stopped watching

    • @10acebikesjodybennettii19
      @10acebikesjodybennettii19 Před 6 lety

      Richard Coker are you seriously angry cause you don't like how he said Aluminum?? are you trolling or just a douche bag? get a grip yourself really people like you are the downfall of the human race! it's that all you have too do in your life talk crap about someone because he used a different pronunciation then you?? wow idiotic, ignorant, and stupidity at it's best!!!

  • @owenstewart1306
    @owenstewart1306 Před 7 lety

    14:47 lol

  • @hog198
    @hog198 Před 7 lety

    While you're all whining about carbon an aluminum I'm sitting here with a 2016 GT aggressor hardtail with the one and only upgrade you need to become a pro at DH Maxxis holy roller 2s.

  • @matejmecanovic3515
    @matejmecanovic3515 Před 7 lety

    7:12 song

    • @mtbnews
      @mtbnews  Před 7 lety

      czcams.com/video/Fm_-sW4Vktw/video.html

  • @Alienthor
    @Alienthor Před 7 lety

    Jim Carrey !

  • @jkwoneforde3858
    @jkwoneforde3858 Před 7 lety

    can you send in a maintainbike for me in Barbados

  • @PowderMonkey4Life
    @PowderMonkey4Life Před 7 lety

    :10 sunny day? every day is sunny otherwise it's called night

  • @antonylunac9494
    @antonylunac9494 Před 7 lety

    14:30

  • @simondoz6827
    @simondoz6827 Před 6 lety

    Can i have one please

  • @MR5er1
    @MR5er1 Před 7 lety +1

    You look like Evan Peters

  • @rusev5490
    @rusev5490 Před 6 lety

    Say "what have you" ONE more time....

  • @robertrooney2044
    @robertrooney2044 Před 7 lety

    Meanwhile at Santa Cruz bicycles

  • @freeracersbonn3215
    @freeracersbonn3215 Před 7 lety +2

    Schimano, Schramm...😂🌚

  • @LowResBS240p
    @LowResBS240p Před 7 lety

    bill haders brother lol!

  • @johnbenedickquilop3275

    Can you give me santa cruz im in the pilipines

  • @jeffstryker1454
    @jeffstryker1454 Před 6 lety

    I still don't understand why mountain bikes cost so much. Where I'm from these bikes cost nearly $10k for that price I can nearly get a brand new motor bike these bicycle company are over charging people.

    • @addicted2baseballrgd21
      @addicted2baseballrgd21 Před 6 lety

      Jeff Stryker my only guess would be power of economy.
      My motorcycle is $11,500 and can get up to 165mph.