Every new ride has issues at launch. Tiana’s has had most of the bugs worked out already. Plus id rather have a good ride that tries new things that sometimes breaks, over a bad ride that is basic and doesn’t break.
I went on Journey into your imagination not long after it opened with family. After our ride, we were all surveyed. We all sad the same things, "boring" "where is Figment?" "why did they get rid of the original ride?" "what does this have to do about imagination when it's based off the senses?" I'm glad they did eventually change it again to add Figment back in, but it still lacks the creativity and message of the original ride. Why they continue to ignore this ride and not make another version with Dreamfinder and Figment, I do not know....
They’re neglecting rides that were good in the past for the new. Dinosaur is having the same thing happen but instead of livening it up they’re just getting rid of it entirely.
Disney was like, "nice ride you've got here, Kodak... It would be a shame if anything happened to it" (and then Disney cracked its knuckles and built Journey Into YOUR Imagination 😢)
Legit for every time I hear of something Michael Eisener did to actually save/improve the parks [even if it ultimately failed] - I hear then about stuff like this. Where there was no dang good reason to get rid of something and it happened because "progress" ... and it's ALWAYS the wrong call. Why don't people ever take crap that's BORING and NO ONE LIKED and get rid of/update/experiment with that? Why is it always like "Some dude didn't like that X thing was so dang popular so they broke it"
My family first came down to Disney in January of 1987. I still remember everything about the trip so vividly, and after several other trips down after, I moved to Orlando in 1998 and still live there. But in January of ‘87, Epcot was just barely over 4 years old, and pretty much exactly how it originally was a few years ago. It was by FAR the highlight of that trip for me back then, and it’s still my favorite Disney park. I miss the ways that it was in the 80’s so so much. Not only was everything new, but back then both sections of the park actually taught you something, while still being outstandingly fun. Elements like audio animatronics back then too were still mind blowing tech too. And before the internet and connected world we live in today, everything was an exciting surprise. You couldn’t watch a million POV ride-throughs in HD on CZcams ahead of time, or hear a million reviews. So your anticipation was off the chart. Back then too, people were patiently focused on actually riding the ride. Not about making another social media post or taking a selfie. I wish I could go back to that year for just one day to re-experience it. I do still like the parks today overall, but not like I used to. To this day though, I still have a plush Figment from “Journey” that I got as a kid in 1987.
I had no idea that ride was once so much better. I found the ride pretty obnoxious, and the original looks absolutely gorgeous and beautiful. What a terrible shame.
Current version desperately needs an update. Even new animations for Figment so he doesn't look like an old Veggie Tales character would be acceptable at this point
Man dude I’m shocked, I thought this was a big channel like Poseidon entertainment or something. Congrats on making such a good video for a channel this size!
I knew about Journey Into Imagination before I ever went to Disney World because it was prominently featured in the Epcot promotional VHS tape (which I watched MANY times because it was fun and colorful and pretty much the closest thing we had to TikTok in the mid-90's). The first time I went to Epcot was when I was six years old in 2000. It didn't occur to me until we got home from the vacation that we never went on the ride with the funny purple dragon, so I just assumed we'd been so busy that we never got around to riding it. I was disappointed, but I figured that I'd get to ride it if we got to go on another Disney World vacation. The plot twist is that we did, in fact, go on that ride. Except it was Journey Into Your Imagination and it was so bad that I could barely even remember it a week later. A few months ago I finally did go on my second ever Disney World vacation. Journey Into Imagination With Figment is an okay ride. Nothing more, nothing less, still not particularly memorable. What IS memorable though is the image of the rainbow hallway from that old VHS tape. It's been a few decades since I've seen it, but the few seconds of footage of people walking through those neon rings of color are vividly cemented into my mind because more imagination went into that one hallway than either of this ride's reimaginings combined.
The comics are easily some of the best things they put out involving Figment and Dreamfinder. I highly recommend them. Also, I should mention a few years ago, a Figment movie was announced. Given how well the merchandise frequently sells, I’m shocked they haven’t given the ride an all new iteration. The character frequently makes appearances, especially at festivals. They should do something new with the character for a new ride as the old ride is showing its age.
I was actually lucky enough to see the Dream-Catcher in 2021 at the Destination D23 event. The archives had an exhibit and they brought it into one of the rooms in the Contemporary. It was really cool seeing it because I was born years after the original closed. I always enjoyed seeing it on Mouse Gear but it was awesome getting to get really close to it and take in all the details.
It's so wild to me to hear that I'm not the only one who thought to bring them together again but modern. My idea was start the same, but use the older, longer track, with Dr. Channing [of course he'd likely need recasting - or make it his son or something] and then have one of the imagination things be very "Lab Based". Then have Figment taking over, interrupting and making every thing a little more imaginative until half way in and Dr. Channing can be like "Figment STOP it!" and Figment explains that he has a friend who can help since he "has to go" and BOOM Dreamfinder whisks us out of the lab and into a fun world of imagination. Figment can pop up near the 3/4th mark having dragged Dr. Channing along to show him that THIS is what REALLY happens when imagination is set free. And perhaps it can end with a zany, kooky version of the lab [maybe as if made by cartoon artists rather than the sterile, realistic one we start in] and Dr. Channing [now in a colorful lab coat] expresses that perhaps he was wrong, and sets us free into the Imagiworks. They could have one of those fun "The image changes as you walk past" things in the hall to have it look like Dreamfinder or Figment are following you down the hall to the Imagiworks area. They could even keep a lot of the stuff that is currently there, but maybe dress them up to look a little more steampunk to fit Dreamfinder's machine and attire. As the ride is "Taken over" slowly we could hear the music for Just a Spark - and maybe hints of Dreamfinder like the blueprints for his machine, a random top hat etc. And when we "meet" him he's singing the song as he flies around. The ride can even end with him, Dr. Channing and Figment all singing together. Perhaps they could figure out also how to add in the importance of science, but that art [imagination] is just as important and the two can work together. Perhaps a segment of Dreamfinder explaining that it took both imagination AND science to build the machine he was on, but he never let either thing make the other go away, finding a good balance between technology but also the importance of having a little imagination day to day in everything we do! It'd be a damn good lesson for the children, teens AND adults that attend. That the two aren't mutually exclusive, and really, without imagination and a little whimsy, we wouldn't really HAVE science. After all, isn't going "I wonder how that works" the first part of imagination?
And since they'd use the longer 12 minute track First 3 minutes - Trying to be a lab grown thing Next 3 Minutes - Figment and Dr. C fighting over teaching the tour Next 3 Minutes - Figment "has a talk" off screen with Dr. C while his friend Dreamfinder shows up and takes the tour to his world Next 2 ish minutes - The three come together and share how both work together Final moments - Ride ends with Dr. C more enlightened, and the lab more alive and cartoony/wacky than we entered it, accepting that imagination is just as important to have as it is to understand.
The third version of this ride was the only one I knew of. The only thing I remembered about it was that even as a kid I thought Figment was obnoxious. The song sucks and the humor is constantly interrupting everything.
Same here. I didn't understand why Figment had such a large fanbase until I learned about the original version of the ride. I hope Disney brings the Dreamfinder back someday - surely they're aware that Figment's popularity stems from nostalgia for a version of the ride that no longer exists, rather than the mediocre version that's there now.
If it were me and I had no budget or oversight, I’d make a new dream finder, maybe son or great great grandson of dream finder, switch the steampunk aesthetic to solar punk, and make everything look hyper futuristic, but do that to every element of the original so you still have the “future” in future world and you still have everything that made the original beloved, but with a new modern look and feel so it feels like a step forward instead of a look back.
This turned into rambling, sorry. I have a lot of history with this attraction.😅 My first WDW trip was in 1988 when I was 4. Some of my first memories are of WDW, Journey Into Imagination being one of the big ones. I still loved it when we went back when I was 9 in 1993, and THAT version of ImageWorks was the first time I ever used a stylus to color an image on a TV monitor. It _enchanted_ me and my parents had to pull me away eventually. 😂 I'm pretty sure that's the reason why I became a digital artist as a teenager and now a digital illustrator and colorist for a living as an adult. Now I just color on a Cintiq instead of a CRT. lol I hated this new iteration with the fire of a thousand suns when it replaced the OG ride and it's still a travesty in its third version. I wish they'd restore it and just get rid of ImageWorks entirely. It serves no purpose anymore now that technology advances so quickly, which is exactly what happened to Innoventions. Awesome in the '90s, lame and useless after ~2005. It's so sad that I've heard people who never got to experience the original Journey bitch about Figment being obnoxious and annoying, because he wasn't like that originally! He was just childlike and excitable. 😕 I hope Disney eventually overhauls that entire pavilion again, trashes the ride, and starts over from scratch while bringing back Dreamfinder. If you want to update him, make him the young steampunk version from the Figment comics! That would be awesome! I've been seeing more and more Dreamfinder stuff in Epcot over the last few years, so I've got everything on my body crossed in hopes that Disney is slowly reintroducing him so that can actually happen.
@@Mushroomelixir I take it you mean the coloring on the TV screen affecting my future career? Disney had a huge influence on my career in other ways, too. I wanted to be a Disney animator at the Florida studio while I was growing up. Back in 1998 when The Disney Institute was still an educational experience for guests (instead of the corporate training it is now), my parents took two of the adult level animation classes with me so I could (I was 14 and the minimum age without parents was 16). The animator that taught the classes gave me a packet after I talked to him that was basically "Want to be a Disney animator? This is what you need to do" with recommendations, including Disney-preferred art schools that they recruited from regularly. That list of schools is how I found out about Ringling, which was where I ended up getting my degree from. Disney unfortunately shut down the Florida studio and started moving away from traditional animation during my freshman year, but that made me go into illustration instead as my major which ultimately ended up being a better fit for me in the long run. So basically my entire life path has been influenced by Disney in one way or another. Even my drawing style was influenced by the '90s Renaissance films. 😄
@@Mushroomelixir Aw I'm flattered, but I assure you I am not interesting enough for something like that. lol Thank you for the lovely start to my day, though! Have a good morning. 😊
I clicked on this video in defensive mode, but had to 'like' after watching. As a teen in the late 80s and a Jungle Skipper in 91, 'Journey' was one of my favorites. I couldn't go "too often". I loved the loading mechanism, the ride itself, Figment, and that ear wig of a theme song. However, I noticed a 'tarnishing' of that magic upon my more recent visits in 21st century but couldn't put my finger on the many changes that had 'dimmed the shine'. I found this video an absolutely fascinating look at the ride's devolution.
There's a lot of Eisner-era things I love, as that's the version of WDW I grew up with and remember fondly, but this is not one of them. I think this, and the Rocket Rods destroying the Peoplemover track were the two worst things from his time. That being said, overall, the Disney Difference was still strong at that time, and the overall environmental theming that Disney was creating in the 90's is unmatched today. The WDW Water Parks and even Winter Summerland Golf Course are great examples of some top tier Eisner-era theming.
I saw the original epcot in '83,84 and 85. . It was glorious. This was Imagination was probably my 2nd favorite next to the Universe of Energy that never seemed to be running correctly when I was there.
According to my mom, when we went on this ride when I was like, 7. I cried nonstop as soon as we entered the building. On thing I recalled was two cast members, before and after the ride, failed to calm me down both before and after the ride. Still is the only horribly bad memory I had at Disney.
Being born in 2003, I only experienced the current version of the ride and it is actually a favourite ride of my mom and I. I never knew anything about the Dream Catcher or its origins and I have truly missed out on that.
I'm so sad that younger generations don't get to experience Disney World the way we did back in the 80s and 90s. It was such a magical place. I have so many great memories there. These days, I wouldn't go even if it were free.
It's stuff like this that I'm glad I haven't been to any Disney properties since 1996. Would never go now, because almost every thing I did like is basically gone.
I loved the original. I hated the second one. The third one was still bad, but better. I'm holding out for a retheme to add Dreamfinder back into the story.
Michael Eisner had a horrible vision of updating traditional attractions... the Tiki Room Under New Management ride was the worst thing. The new attractions had passive agressive humor in them that actually made fun of the quests riding them.
I had only been to Disney once before and on my second time I felt Epcot was kinda empty and soulless. like it was missing a lot of personality. From what this has shown me that was literally just true. Everything about Epcot in its current state is a stripped down version of what it used to be.
The best the guest can do to work against such Changes is to Protest or avoid the Rides, because Companys like Disney are just reachableover their Purse.
There's pretty much a 0% chance they would remove Figment entirely. The popcorn buckets alone have sent a clear message that he is able to move merchandise.
Early Eisner had some really great ideas to help improve the parks, but also some really terrible ones. On one hand, we got DisneySea, Tower of Terror, and Indiana Jones Adventure...but also Superstar Limo, Journey into YOUR Imagination, and Stitch's Great Escape. Similarly, early Iger era seemed promising (New Fantasyland, Star Tours 2.0, Shanghai Disneyland), but once Chapek joined him at the helm, it really started going downhill fast.
@@A_A610 Chapek is gone and yet we still see all this bad stuff. Iger is the problem. Hell you can blame the last 5 years of Eisner's reign on Iger since he was president of the company then.
@@JohnathanWilliamson849 Issue with current Iger is that he's keeping the course with some of the more financially lucrative decisions Chapek has made, but now it's coming to a major tipping point of how much consumer good will they can burn though for short term gains. As long as they have the pixie dusters sucking up for them and defending their constant "necessary downgrades" (to borrow a term from a review site), they're gonna keep doing the same stupid things until it hurts their bottom lines.
@@A_A610 Chapek was basically just a puppet of Iger, a fall guy put in the position for people to blame so that way Iger could come back to try and make himself the savior of Disney again.
I'm usually a Disney defender but even the Imagineers openly say "we really screwed up on this." The original may have been dated but still a charm this remake lacked.
To its benefit, Superstar Limo only replaced a parking lot, so there was a lot less disappointment to it being bad compared to this hunk of junk replacing a well-loved classic.
This is actaully so symbolic of what is happening to their parks today. Cheap, souless, regurtated IP with no imagination or uniqueness is what we get with new 'rides'. They used to build attractions and experiences. Now, it's just 'rides'. Cips from a film. Ratatoille is a great example. One scene from a film and there is an entire ride build around it. Fun once or twice, but easily forgettable. I did get to experience this attraction when it debuted. I didn't hate it by itself, but it was definitely no where as good as the original. Had it been a separate attraction elswhere I think it woudl have been ok. It took IP, but actually did something other than just play a clip from a film. I'll never defend this cheap attraction, but it was at least something unique that was tied to IP. That level of thinking no longer exists today. Today we get a clip from a film and build an entire ride around it. I'd take the IP if something actually unique would come out of it, and there's a couple of hits here and there, but largely that kind of thinking is not present. Some exceptions do exist and it's a nice balance when it does, but it's not the norm these days. Thanks for the great video. I also agree iwth you that the colorful version of the upside side down house looks far wors than the original. That was actually the only real part I ever enjoyed in that short-lived version.
Journey is pretty bad, but the absolute worst “upgrade” to a Disney ride has to be changing Disneyland’s beloved People Mover into Rocket Rods. The ride sucked, they broke down all the time, and it destroyed the structural stability of the elevated pylons. It barely lasted a year or two, and since then the track has been an abandoned eye sore in the middle of Tomorrowland.
Man, its sad to see disney use all their more popular films and media for their attractions, why’d they remove such a interesting norwegain folklore inspired ride to just, frozen? Like come on disney! Be original!
That’s Infact Corey Burton doing an incredibly convincing impersonation of Billy Barty. Why they didn’t get him back for With Figment is beyond me… but it is what it is.
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One of the DUMBEST decisions Disney ever did at a theme park was "upgrade" this ride.
Very good.
the dumbest decision Disney ever did it making epcot a magic kingdom 2 park
“Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is the worst retheme Disney has ever made!”
Journey into YOUR Imagination: “Hold my Lightbulb.”
"Both?"
"Both."
"Both are bad."
Tiana’s is good
I might not agree with the retheme but it’s a much better ride overall. Not even close.
at least when this ride opened, it was functional. tiana's is definitely worse
Every new ride has issues at launch. Tiana’s has had most of the bugs worked out already. Plus id rather have a good ride that tries new things that sometimes breaks, over a bad ride that is basic and doesn’t break.
Being 19 now, never being able to see 80's to early 90's epcot is what I feel I missed out on the most
I feel it too being a 2000's kid
Journey Into Imagination with Figment is only able to capture so much of the original
Oh, 1982-96 Epcot was truly magical.
Same. The original seems like it was wayyy better than what we have had for a little over 20 years now.
I wish maybe they will revel at d23 that they will bring back original Epcot
I went on Journey into your imagination not long after it opened with family. After our ride, we were all surveyed. We all sad the same things, "boring" "where is Figment?" "why did they get rid of the original ride?" "what does this have to do about imagination when it's based off the senses?" I'm glad they did eventually change it again to add Figment back in, but it still lacks the creativity and message of the original ride. Why they continue to ignore this ride and not make another version with Dreamfinder and Figment, I do not know....
They’re neglecting rides that were good in the past for the new. Dinosaur is having the same thing happen but instead of livening it up they’re just getting rid of it entirely.
Imagine the best ‘effect’ in your ride is a Brick going thru a fake glass table
journey into imagination>journey into imagination with figment> journey into your imagination.
Disney was like, "nice ride you've got here, Kodak... It would be a shame if anything happened to it" (and then Disney cracked its knuckles and built Journey Into YOUR Imagination 😢)
Legit for every time I hear of something Michael Eisener did to actually save/improve the parks [even if it ultimately failed] - I hear then about stuff like this. Where there was no dang good reason to get rid of something and it happened because "progress" ... and it's ALWAYS the wrong call.
Why don't people ever take crap that's BORING and NO ONE LIKED and get rid of/update/experiment with that? Why is it always like "Some dude didn't like that X thing was so dang popular so they broke it"
@@Crow_Smith At least there was attempts of new stuff, unlike Iger who just relies on existing IPs to replace classic rides.
Revenge. Kodak was going under. That was hitting below the belt. Now, Disney is getting it now with stocks.
My family first came down to Disney in January of 1987. I still remember everything about the trip so vividly, and after several other trips down after, I moved to Orlando in 1998 and still live there. But in January of ‘87, Epcot was just barely over 4 years old, and pretty much exactly how it originally was a few years ago. It was by FAR the highlight of that trip for me back then, and it’s still my favorite Disney park. I miss the ways that it was in the 80’s so so much. Not only was everything new, but back then both sections of the park actually taught you something, while still being outstandingly fun. Elements like audio animatronics back then too were still mind blowing tech too. And before the internet and connected world we live in today, everything was an exciting surprise. You couldn’t watch a million POV ride-throughs in HD on CZcams ahead of time, or hear a million reviews. So your anticipation was off the chart. Back then too, people were patiently focused on actually riding the ride. Not about making another social media post or taking a selfie. I wish I could go back to that year for just one day to re-experience it. I do still like the parks today overall, but not like I used to. To this day though, I still have a plush Figment from “Journey” that I got as a kid in 1987.
I had no idea that ride was once so much better. I found the ride pretty obnoxious, and the original looks absolutely gorgeous and beautiful. What a terrible shame.
23:45 Michael Eisner eventually did find a good outlet for this humor, as he went on to be the executive producer of Bojack Horseman.
This was the ride equivalent of the first “Don’t Hug Me, I’m Scared”
Current version desperately needs an update. Even new animations for Figment so he doesn't look like an old Veggie Tales character would be acceptable at this point
Man dude I’m shocked, I thought this was a big channel like Poseidon entertainment or something. Congrats on making such a good video for a channel this size!
I knew about Journey Into Imagination before I ever went to Disney World because it was prominently featured in the Epcot promotional VHS tape (which I watched MANY times because it was fun and colorful and pretty much the closest thing we had to TikTok in the mid-90's).
The first time I went to Epcot was when I was six years old in 2000. It didn't occur to me until we got home from the vacation that we never went on the ride with the funny purple dragon, so I just assumed we'd been so busy that we never got around to riding it. I was disappointed, but I figured that I'd get to ride it if we got to go on another Disney World vacation.
The plot twist is that we did, in fact, go on that ride. Except it was Journey Into Your Imagination and it was so bad that I could barely even remember it a week later.
A few months ago I finally did go on my second ever Disney World vacation. Journey Into Imagination With Figment is an okay ride. Nothing more, nothing less, still not particularly memorable.
What IS memorable though is the image of the rainbow hallway from that old VHS tape. It's been a few decades since I've seen it, but the few seconds of footage of people walking through those neon rings of color are vividly cemented into my mind because more imagination went into that one hallway than either of this ride's reimaginings combined.
only been 1 minute and this video is already great like usual
The comics are easily some of the best things they put out involving Figment and Dreamfinder. I highly recommend them.
Also, I should mention a few years ago, a Figment movie was announced. Given how well the merchandise frequently sells, I’m shocked they haven’t given the ride an all new iteration.
The character frequently makes appearances, especially at festivals. They should do something new with the character for a new ride as the old ride is showing its age.
I was actually lucky enough to see the Dream-Catcher in 2021 at the Destination D23 event. The archives had an exhibit and they brought it into one of the rooms in the Contemporary. It was really cool seeing it because I was born years after the original closed. I always enjoyed seeing it on Mouse Gear but it was awesome getting to get really close to it and take in all the details.
It's so wild to me to hear that I'm not the only one who thought to bring them together again but modern.
My idea was start the same, but use the older, longer track, with Dr. Channing [of course he'd likely need recasting - or make it his son or something] and then have one of the imagination things be very "Lab Based". Then have Figment taking over, interrupting and making every thing a little more imaginative until half way in and Dr. Channing can be like "Figment STOP it!" and Figment explains that he has a friend who can help since he "has to go" and BOOM Dreamfinder whisks us out of the lab and into a fun world of imagination. Figment can pop up near the 3/4th mark having dragged Dr. Channing along to show him that THIS is what REALLY happens when imagination is set free. And perhaps it can end with a zany, kooky version of the lab [maybe as if made by cartoon artists rather than the sterile, realistic one we start in] and Dr. Channing [now in a colorful lab coat] expresses that perhaps he was wrong, and sets us free into the Imagiworks. They could have one of those fun "The image changes as you walk past" things in the hall to have it look like Dreamfinder or Figment are following you down the hall to the Imagiworks area. They could even keep a lot of the stuff that is currently there, but maybe dress them up to look a little more steampunk to fit Dreamfinder's machine and attire. As the ride is "Taken over" slowly we could hear the music for Just a Spark - and maybe hints of Dreamfinder like the blueprints for his machine, a random top hat etc. And when we "meet" him he's singing the song as he flies around. The ride can even end with him, Dr. Channing and Figment all singing together.
Perhaps they could figure out also how to add in the importance of science, but that art [imagination] is just as important and the two can work together. Perhaps a segment of Dreamfinder explaining that it took both imagination AND science to build the machine he was on, but he never let either thing make the other go away, finding a good balance between technology but also the importance of having a little imagination day to day in everything we do!
It'd be a damn good lesson for the children, teens AND adults that attend. That the two aren't mutually exclusive, and really, without imagination and a little whimsy, we wouldn't really HAVE science. After all, isn't going "I wonder how that works" the first part of imagination?
And since they'd use the longer 12 minute track
First 3 minutes - Trying to be a lab grown thing
Next 3 Minutes - Figment and Dr. C fighting over teaching the tour
Next 3 Minutes - Figment "has a talk" off screen with Dr. C while his friend Dreamfinder shows up and takes the tour to his world
Next 2 ish minutes - The three come together and share how both work together
Final moments - Ride ends with Dr. C more enlightened, and the lab more alive and cartoony/wacky than we entered it, accepting that imagination is just as important to have as it is to understand.
It’s simply incredible this shit stain of a ride remains open, but splash mountain was replaced.
Splash Mountain had to go because it was "racist"
The third version of this ride was the only one I knew of. The only thing I remembered about it was that even as a kid I thought Figment was obnoxious. The song sucks and the humor is constantly interrupting everything.
Same here. I didn't understand why Figment had such a large fanbase until I learned about the original version of the ride. I hope Disney brings the Dreamfinder back someday - surely they're aware that Figment's popularity stems from nostalgia for a version of the ride that no longer exists, rather than the mediocre version that's there now.
If it were me and I had no budget or oversight, I’d make a new dream finder, maybe son or great great grandson of dream finder, switch the steampunk aesthetic to solar punk, and make everything look hyper futuristic, but do that to every element of the original so you still have the “future” in future world and you still have everything that made the original beloved, but with a new modern look and feel so it feels like a step forward instead of a look back.
This turned into rambling, sorry. I have a lot of history with this attraction.😅
My first WDW trip was in 1988 when I was 4. Some of my first memories are of WDW, Journey Into Imagination being one of the big ones. I still loved it when we went back when I was 9 in 1993, and THAT version of ImageWorks was the first time I ever used a stylus to color an image on a TV monitor. It _enchanted_ me and my parents had to pull me away eventually. 😂
I'm pretty sure that's the reason why I became a digital artist as a teenager and now a digital illustrator and colorist for a living as an adult. Now I just color on a Cintiq instead of a CRT. lol
I hated this new iteration with the fire of a thousand suns when it replaced the OG ride and it's still a travesty in its third version. I wish they'd restore it and just get rid of ImageWorks entirely. It serves no purpose anymore now that technology advances so quickly, which is exactly what happened to Innoventions. Awesome in the '90s, lame and useless after ~2005.
It's so sad that I've heard people who never got to experience the original Journey bitch about Figment being obnoxious and annoying, because he wasn't like that originally! He was just childlike and excitable. 😕
I hope Disney eventually overhauls that entire pavilion again, trashes the ride, and starts over from scratch while bringing back Dreamfinder. If you want to update him, make him the young steampunk version from the Figment comics! That would be awesome!
I've been seeing more and more Dreamfinder stuff in Epcot over the last few years, so I've got everything on my body crossed in hopes that Disney is slowly reintroducing him so that can actually happen.
Thats so cool!!!!
@@Mushroomelixir I take it you mean the coloring on the TV screen affecting my future career? Disney had a huge influence on my career in other ways, too.
I wanted to be a Disney animator at the Florida studio while I was growing up. Back in 1998 when The Disney Institute was still an educational experience for guests (instead of the corporate training it is now), my parents took two of the adult level animation classes with me so I could (I was 14 and the minimum age without parents was 16).
The animator that taught the classes gave me a packet after I talked to him that was basically "Want to be a Disney animator? This is what you need to do" with recommendations, including Disney-preferred art schools that they recruited from regularly.
That list of schools is how I found out about Ringling, which was where I ended up getting my degree from. Disney unfortunately shut down the Florida studio and started moving away from traditional animation during my freshman year, but that made me go into illustration instead as my major which ultimately ended up being a better fit for me in the long run.
So basically my entire life path has been influenced by Disney in one way or another. Even my drawing style was influenced by the '90s Renaissance films. 😄
@@kriscynical I love that actually!!!! I would totally read an autobiography by you!
@@Mushroomelixir Aw I'm flattered, but I assure you I am not interesting enough for something like that. lol
Thank you for the lovely start to my day, though! Have a good morning. 😊
@@kriscynical I think that would be a bit interesting, you have a great morning too!!
I've experienced all of them... and none of them will compare to the original.
Yet another George Browning classic
Missed the chance to call it “The Worst Ride Imaginable”
Superstar Limo would like a word.
Love your videos I get genuinely excited when you upload a new one
By far the worst ride at WDW. Why they don't fix it is beyond me.
Disney just isn't willing to spend the money to restore and rebuild it.
@@Rick586 If it was based on a movie, i bet they would. It's sad.
@@Nightwaterproject It would have to be based on a new and *very* profitable movie for the executives to care at all.
I’m so happy I got to ride the original before it changed
I clicked on this video in defensive mode, but had to 'like' after watching. As a teen in the late 80s and a Jungle Skipper in 91, 'Journey' was one of my favorites. I couldn't go "too often". I loved the loading mechanism, the ride itself, Figment, and that ear wig of a theme song. However, I noticed a 'tarnishing' of that magic upon my more recent visits in 21st century but couldn't put my finger on the many changes that had 'dimmed the shine'. I found this video an absolutely fascinating look at the ride's devolution.
The original needs to come back. Like Fr. It’s not the same without Dreamfinder
There's a lot of Eisner-era things I love, as that's the version of WDW I grew up with and remember fondly, but this is not one of them. I think this, and the Rocket Rods destroying the Peoplemover track were the two worst things from his time. That being said, overall, the Disney Difference was still strong at that time, and the overall environmental theming that Disney was creating in the 90's is unmatched today. The WDW Water Parks and even Winter Summerland Golf Course are great examples of some top tier Eisner-era theming.
I love figment and there is no ride like the original I went in 2000 and was horrified with the upgrade biggest mistake ever
I just rewatched all of your videos a few weeks ago and this is gonna be a delight
I really want them to get rid of Nigel and bring back the dream finder.
I saw the original epcot in '83,84 and 85. . It was glorious. This was Imagination was probably my 2nd favorite next to the Universe of Energy that never seemed to be running correctly when I was there.
According to my mom, when we went on this ride when I was like, 7. I cried nonstop as soon as we entered the building. On thing I recalled was two cast members, before and after the ride, failed to calm me down both before and after the ride. Still is the only horribly bad memory I had at Disney.
I remember how some of this, along with TRON, was referenced and inspired for Prototype World Tomorrow podcast.
I do remember the line literally blocking the ride. Plus they had a music truck playing macracena outside
Being born in 2003, I only experienced the current version of the ride and it is actually a favourite ride of my mom and I. I never knew anything about the Dream Catcher or its origins and I have truly missed out on that.
I'm so sad that younger generations don't get to experience Disney World the way we did back in the 80s and 90s. It was such a magical place. I have so many great memories there. These days, I wouldn't go even if it were free.
Since they’re going to put an ip on it at some point, just do inside out and you can still have figment
❤ Love the video. I liked Dreamfinder much better than what we have now
It's stuff like this that I'm glad I haven't been to any Disney properties since 1996. Would never go now, because almost every thing I did like is basically gone.
I loved the original. I hated the second one. The third one was still bad, but better. I'm holding out for a retheme to add Dreamfinder back into the story.
Michael Eisner had a horrible vision of updating traditional attractions... the Tiki Room Under New Management ride was the worst thing. The new attractions had passive agressive humor in them that actually made fun of the quests riding them.
I had only been to Disney once before and on my second time I felt Epcot was kinda empty and soulless. like it was missing a lot of personality. From what this has shown me that was literally just true. Everything about Epcot in its current state is a stripped down version of what it used to be.
Disney and thinking it knows better than their audience, name a more iconic duo
I’ve only rode the modern iteration of the ride, but I feel like I miss the original even though I’ve never even seen it. What a sad story.
The best the guest can do to work against such Changes is to Protest or avoid the Rides, because Companys like Disney are just reachableover their Purse.
These videos are always such a nostalgia trip
There's pretty much a 0% chance they would remove Figment entirely. The popcorn buckets alone have sent a clear message that he is able to move merchandise.
For me, this marked the beginning of the end of my relationship with the parks.
They should've called it 'Journey Up Your Imagination'.
Einser hellbent on destroying the parks
Iger hellbent on destroying the movies
Early Eisner had some really great ideas to help improve the parks, but also some really terrible ones. On one hand, we got DisneySea, Tower of Terror, and Indiana Jones Adventure...but also Superstar Limo, Journey into YOUR Imagination, and Stitch's Great Escape.
Similarly, early Iger era seemed promising (New Fantasyland, Star Tours 2.0, Shanghai Disneyland), but once Chapek joined him at the helm, it really started going downhill fast.
@@A_A610 Chapek is gone and yet we still see all this bad stuff. Iger is the problem. Hell you can blame the last 5 years of Eisner's reign on Iger since he was president of the company then.
@@JohnathanWilliamson849 Issue with current Iger is that he's keeping the course with some of the more financially lucrative decisions Chapek has made, but now it's coming to a major tipping point of how much consumer good will they can burn though for short term gains. As long as they have the pixie dusters sucking up for them and defending their constant "necessary downgrades" (to borrow a term from a review site), they're gonna keep doing the same stupid things until it hurts their bottom lines.
@@A_A610 Chapek was basically just a puppet of Iger, a fall guy put in the position for people to blame so that way Iger could come back to try and make himself the savior of Disney again.
@@A_A610chapek was the fall guy for Iger’s stupidity
I'm usually a Disney defender but even the Imagineers openly say "we really screwed up on this." The original may have been dated but still a charm this remake lacked.
Great job on this video.
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
The original Epcot Center Soundtrack FTW!
Not worst than that hollywood ride at california adventure.
To its benefit, Superstar Limo only replaced a parking lot, so there was a lot less disappointment to it being bad compared to this hunk of junk replacing a well-loved classic.
This is actaully so symbolic of what is happening to their parks today. Cheap, souless, regurtated IP with no imagination or uniqueness is what we get with new 'rides'. They used to build attractions and experiences. Now, it's just 'rides'. Cips from a film. Ratatoille is a great example. One scene from a film and there is an entire ride build around it. Fun once or twice, but easily forgettable.
I did get to experience this attraction when it debuted. I didn't hate it by itself, but it was definitely no where as good as the original. Had it been a separate attraction elswhere I think it woudl have been ok. It took IP, but actually did something other than just play a clip from a film. I'll never defend this cheap attraction, but it was at least something unique that was tied to IP. That level of thinking no longer exists today. Today we get a clip from a film and build an entire ride around it. I'd take the IP if something actually unique would come out of it, and there's a couple of hits here and there, but largely that kind of thinking is not present. Some exceptions do exist and it's a nice balance when it does, but it's not the norm these days.
Thanks for the great video. I also agree iwth you that the colorful version of the upside side down house looks far wors than the original. That was actually the only real part I ever enjoyed in that short-lived version.
Everything about Journey into YOUR Imagination makes Tiana’s Bayou Adventure look imaginative.
Journey is pretty bad, but the absolute worst “upgrade” to a Disney ride has to be changing Disneyland’s beloved People Mover into Rocket Rods.
The ride sucked, they broke down all the time, and it destroyed the structural stability of the elevated pylons. It barely lasted a year or two, and since then the track has been an abandoned eye sore in the middle of Tomorrowland.
I rode the original, and it was amazing. The line was fast so we rode it over and over (mostly for the a/c) but as a kid we loved it.
I read just Journey into Imagination and immediately thought “Bold move Cotton; let’s see how it works out for him” 😂
I just now got what the southpark imagination land episode saga is from....
This video was fantastic!
What about including Lovecraft's Dreamworlds?
Wow, i had no idea about the weirder middle stage of this ride
i've been on all 3 versions and my fav is the OG one. i hated both the remake and the upghraded version. both felt like a slap in the face
I loved the OG ver now this one is get out of the hot sun for 5 mins and zzzzzzzzzzzzz lol
It's like the Disney parks, or at least the ones in the US, are resting on their laurels to justify the lame to mediocre changes that are being made.
That Tiki Room update was phenomenal. Idk why it gets the hate that it gets
Disney Really Likes To Remove Rides That Are Popular 💀
Id take michael Isner 100x over the corporate bean counter that is bob iger
Web slingers here at California adventure seems to take the cake for title of “worst Disney ride ever”
Didn’t Albert Einstein say imagination was more than knowledge.
Insulting the audience? They are at Disney. They must have some.
Vatican II strikes again. Thanks, Bugnini.
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against my better judgment, I will subscribe.
And ppl thought Superstar Limo was WORSE than this
Biggest downgrade to a ride, but far from the worst ride. There are much worse rides at WDW, both past and present.
Worse than superstar limo
Man, its sad to see disney use all their more popular films and media for their attractions, why’d they remove such a interesting norwegain folklore inspired ride to just, frozen? Like come on disney! Be original!
Dinosaur is getting removed as well, in rumored exchange for Indiana jones
@@SirAlexanderr seriously? That ride was on my list of rides to go on, i hope they at least kept the more thrilling parts of the ride.
@@Sunnfloweropposum it should be around a few more months if you can make it. Definitely a great ride.
@@SirAlexanderr i live all the way in indonesia and the closest disneyland is in Japan 😭 i just hope the rebrand doesnt ruin the immersion
Um… actually, this is not Disney World’s worst ride ever. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh is Disney World’s worst ride ever.
HORRIBLE ride right now
Billy Barty was able to do this version but the third he sadly passed away
Only on screens in the que line
They moved the ship to mouse gear for awhile as a prop
That’s Infact Corey Burton doing an incredibly convincing impersonation of Billy Barty. Why they didn’t get him back for With Figment is beyond me… but it is what it is.
@@inspiredfigmentsarchivesI didn’t realize that. Wow. I do know that the current Figment voice is nowhere near as good.
@@josephbrown9685 Agreed, though I have a feeling that has more to do with the direction than Dave Goelz himself.
I worked here too! All three editions
The original had a lot of dark secrets
@@rrsagaspooky…. Would you be willing to share any?
much better than defunctland
I'd say ellen's universe of enegy was worse.
I always wanted an anti-capitalist analysis of the imagination institute; this is like a late birthday present!!!!
i was robbed
Meh, I like that ride
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Still better than Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
No, that’s still better than this. At least it’s not annoying.