Gus Fring: Scarier Than We Thought
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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2022
- One thing Better Call Saul has done really well is give us a new way to think about some of what we saw in Breaking Bad. For example, although Gus Fring’s origins are still somewhat mysterious, Better Call Saul has given us a fresh, unsettling look at his psyche which we dive into in this video!
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I am aspired to be a person like gus but better, I will make hector suffer without hector or anyone even realize it is me the cause of suffering
I torture mealworms so is that good?
You didn't mention his fantastic Lying ability .. to sit at a table with 6 police detectives and make up a totally fabricated story with a smile on his face and fool them .
Can you show or explain why you think Gus and Max had a romantic relationship in Breaking Bad?
Also, his past is pretty clear
In the flashback with Hector and the twins, when he's talking about Gus on the phone he says
"I know who he is. Big man, big Generalissimo, big fry cook is more like it"
Anyone else notice the look on Gus’s face when max dies is the same grimace WW gives when Hank dies. The shot even looks the same, parallels 🧐
Nice catch.
Thanks for the spoiler 👍
EDIT: Yeah yeah I get it now, I thought Max was a character from Better Call Saul which I'm watching rn but I've already seen Breaking Bad I know who Max is now
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
@@JoneoNL this is abt bcs why the fuck u here if u haven’t finished bb😭
@@JoneoNL lmao you clicked on a video filled to the brim with spoilers and you still went and read the comments. Why are you even watching a Breaking Bad analysis video if you haven’t finished the show yet? There’s no one to blame but yourself.
Giancarlo Esposito's performance as this character is unrivaled. That subtle change to the look in his eyes when he's about to do something sinister is pure artistic performance. You know just what look I'm talking about.
Reminds me of James gandolfini in sopranos. One second his eyes would be innocent even childish. The next he had that stone cold killer look in his eyes. Two beautiful performances from two great series
@@RaVisions Talk about actors made for their role.
I also love how when he tell Hector that his nephews died he has just a hint of a grin behind his face. Just brilliant
@@squidward1633 I have to disagree, his acting was a little over the top. Think of one person you've met you acts like this....Yeah that's right no one. So it's doesn't make it believable for me when someone is acting like no one ever acts.
@@werper09 then you need to meet more people or pay closer attention to people
I've always believed that gus was the ultimate antagonist in BB, when the antagonist shifted to the neo-nazis after his death; it felt more like an epilogue rather than the final antagonist.
To me the whole gang of the neo-nazis felt less threatening than tuco by himself.
I felt like after Gus died Walter "Heisenburg" White became the main antagonist. The neo-nazi's are akin to the cartel were for gus.
@@AE-or7xd that’s a great take
Walt is simultaneously the show's protagonist, *and* villain. This results in an unusual variety of antagonists.
The nazis part eeeh
@@DashCat9 Protagonist doesn’t mean the opposite of villain, it just means the character the show focuses on.
Damn, I'm going to miss Better Call Saul when it ends
That's why I have a hard time believing there won't be a spinoff of some sort. Gus, probably, but I'd love to see them do something with Howard. That would take some more character development this season with BCS, but doable. Could you imagine an entitled, rich, "constipated white dude" (as HOF rb Jim Brown used to call them...lol) like Howard get sucked into cartel business?
@@broadcasttttable There is a lot of questions about Gus's background. Would be cool to have a short spinoff of him or even my boy Mike .
@@Crazy-Horse-Tx. not sure about Mike seeing as we've gotten his story now with BCS and he's been essentially the other main character, but there's definitely stuff they could do with other characters
@@chineseobama6043 These actors are getting old really quick. ( Except for Kim) She is looking good.
Probably, best if we had no more spinoff.
What you said is right.
@@Crazy-Horse-Tx. was literally gonna say the same thing. I’m pretty sure Jonathan Banks is done with Mike after this, for sure.
He is really scary, if you put "amon" infront of his name it becomes super terrifying.
Hahahahha
you can even call him sus
The Amon Clan from Yakuza is still going strong, it must be all connected!
amo*
Gus, I dunno man. You’ve been seeming kinda sus lately, almost like we’ve got an imposter among us.
2:58 I love Mike's reaction to gus killing Victor, even he was extremely caught off-guard and shocked too, he even instinctually points his gun at gus
Fun fact; that scene was not scripted, and the actors' reactions are genuine. Giancarlo just went deep into method acting at this point of the show.
@@adamdion7574 Fun Fact. It was scripted.
Cranston said of Esposito's performance, "When he plays that bad character, his eyes go dead, and all it takes is to look into his eyes." Gilligan said although Gus' actions in the scene were scripted, "You'd be surprised how little I talked to Giancarlo about how he played that part"
@@BRockIITWi it was a joke that flew way above your head
@@adamdion7574 It was a joke? Try harder. You are aware sometimes they don't give the full script to certain actors in some scenes? Like Darth Vader telling Luke he was his father, only Mark Hamill knew that was the line. It was filmed, "Obi-Wan killed your father". It could have been unscripted for some of the actors, though it wasn't, for affect in their performance. Maybe you just suck at telling jokes
@@BRockIITWi it's an old running gag to pretend that an OTT scene is unscripted. Maybe you should learn how to have a sense of humor before telling people they suck at making jokes you can't understand
Gustavo Fring is the definition of "silent evil"
Meanwhile, Heisenberg’s evil is so loud. Too loud.
Hector is technically silent evil cuz he can't talk lol
@@zackzallie8735 ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
It's called justice. Eye for an eye. Justice is neither good nor evil.
@@nont18411 loud in an unnecessary way
I can't help but love Gus. Yeah he's a really bad man who gets away with everything right up until his explosive death in 'Breaking Bad'. He's a villain who gets stuff done and will kill anyone who gets in his way. That makes a great villain.
And he was phfruqk'n max on the DL...
I love the scene in the elevator after having talked to the DEA agents. Gus makes ‘quiet’ a character! He’s so still except for his right hand, index finger tapping to the thumb. Like a cobra’s rattle😳😱
well, i liked him until the animal torture story. anybody who does that is a POS. Tbh, i dont think that fits his character, looks like some lazy writing....it would make more sense to me if another person stole the fruit, and he killed them in a brutal way.
@@markjackson3531 Same!! I adored Gus until he took revenge on an uncomprehending animal! I agree that is not consistent with his character. Better that a neighbour had stolen the fruit.
@@lornarettig3215 Gus just didn't seem overly cruel....ruthless? yes. violent? when necessary, yes. honestly the "tortured animals as a kid" thing is just lazy writing, to me.
Gus wanted to do to Hector exactly what Hector did to him; take away everything important to him while making him watch, powerless to do anything about it. In my mind, even though Hector blew him up Gus was successful. Hector was dead, and he had to watch his entire family die while he was a prisoner in his own body.
True, his revenge worked. But Gus never got to get the full revenge menu. I'm sure he'd rather Hector would live until he died from old age, and he could watch in sadism. As it stands, Hector went out like a badass, and Gus wouldn't have granted him that lol.
I love Gus but when I saw that finale I thought Hector won, he was able to avenge his family and have his revenge. Gus's face even says it in the end, even Hectors face in the end says it. Hector won.
@@gmanzano89gm I'd say it was more of a "I losed here, but I'll take you with me at least", yes Hector manages to kill Gus and bring some kind of revenge for his family, but the amount of suffering Gus has caused Hector and the satisfaction that he got out of it was far greater than the suffering Gus had for not being able to complete his revenge the way he wanted and for being killed along with Hector.
And besides that, there is no one from Hector's family left to carry on his legacy or celebrate the fact that he managed to kill Gus, so we can't really say it was a win, it was more like a draw, but a draw where Gus did much better.
@@itachi2816 With people like Gus they tend to be perfectionists, they don't conform with things halfway done or with just the catharsis for each individual account of vengeance. Only when what he considers proper retribution is dealt then he'll savour the sweetness of revenge, otherwise it'll feel like an empty victory with no satisfaction whatsoever, if it wasn't the case he wouldn't have put so much effort to keep Hector alive in the first place.
Yes but gus died early and young and lost his pure. Hector won.
What I find amazing about BCS's portrayal of Gus is that he isn't the seemingly invincible force that he is in BB: Gus is constantly under the gun, frequently having to compromise, even resorting to sabatoging himself if it means keeping to his designs and schedule. I'm on pins and needles waiting to see the final steps Gus takes to becoming the person he is by the time Walt meets him.
True but he does still seem invincible since we know he has the thickest plot armor due to him surviving into breaking bad
Also Gus being under intense stress and displaying OCD-behaviour (cleaning) as a way to control his environment when he has lost control (when Lalo is missing). Says a lot about his character. He needs control and order when he's afraid. Maybe that's the real reason he was so shook at Max's death - not only because he loved him, it was also out of his control. I think he chose someone he could "save" or built up like Max because he needed control over someone. So I disagree with the notion in the video that Max's death changed him - I think he was a control freak before and that's why he chose Max, even if he didn't realize. Helping and protecting someone and controlling them is the same coin, juts two different sides. And that's what Gus is about: control.
The Lalo-Gus shootout works so well because Gus is a control-freak. It's one of the few times when Gus is truly not in control of a situation, when he has no power. Through blind luck he makes mortal hits but as quickly as the chaos erupted, he was cool. He stood over Lalo watching his enemy die in that cold basement while he took the one last shred of control from Lalo, he stood on his gun. He didn't kick it away or take it, he simply pinned the weapon down in Lalos hand. Easily my favourite Gus scene.
He was pretty invincible. It's just that Lalo was almost the same power level as Gus and Walt.
Gus also seemed in some scenes to be fond of gale. That scene where gale is conducting an experiment while singing, and gus walks in and smiles with what seems to be affection. I think gus may have seen certain elements of max in gale
That really explains how extra cold he gets toward Walt. He took a risk so close to his final revenge that it cost him his life, though he took out a lot with him.
I’ve thought that too. Gale has an innocence that Walter does not and may never have had.
This is essentially confirmed in the fact that Gus personally sponsored Gale's education, as he did Max.
@@Snailybob when I watched it I didn't know gus and max were lovers but I made the connection between gus sponsoring both of their educations which to meant that gus looked at Walt the way he looked at Hector and the salamancas after they killed max
He admires passion and dedication
I also love the way BCS depicts Hector. In Breaking Bad, you have the feeling that in his prime he was some kind of unstoppable monster, but in the prequel we can tell how Hector was kind of stupid and pathetic, jealous of how successful Lalo and Gus were.
He was prideful and arrogant; too aloof to see that being in the life for a long time doesn't earn you priviledges in any way, especially not with the bosses. Gus' operation caused less of a fuzz und exposed the Cartel to less risk than Hector, who constantly had to reign Tuco and Lalo in when shit hit the fan (the twins also aren't exactly subtle in their approach). He's a lot like Walter in that respect; Walt thought him killing Gus gave him the street cred to replace him, but in the end he was only taken advantage of by the Nazis and Lydia.
Nacho could avoid Hectors eyes peeking into his sidebusiness for such a long time exactly because of that. He stayed calm, acted professionally and kept a low profile. Hector always assumed if someone was dumb enough to be gunning for him, they would do it fair and square.
Id say he was jealous of Bolsa and Fring not Lalo and Fring. He seemed to really love Lalo. He was the perfect Salamanca and made him proud
@@TheDuffcat you can be jelous of somebody you love. I would say it's quite common actually
I feel like in the prequel, hector already lost a lot of his power
I like your analysis of Gus's fountain farm dedicated to Max being his "happy place," because it's also where some of his most loyal employees, such as the doctor and Mike, learn of his death.
Part of me would love to find out the backstory of Fring but at the same time I don’t want to know. Not knowing his full backstory makes him scarier.
I trust the writers more than anything on this project, but I also hope they keep Gus Fring's story as is.
@@gravityfel7896
I really want to know what Schuler and Gus did in Chile. Some crazy shit
Just knowing he was connected in Chile, and what happened there, is enough for me.
@@KutWrite mf worked for Pinochet
@@JorgeGarcia-re3gz MF? I take it you didn't mean "Mr. Fring."
I liked how Gus, when prepping the restaurant for the arson lifted the wire basket out of the oil and couldn’t help checking that it had been cleaned properly. Very well set up in the previous episode when he made Carl clean it again and again. A very small detail, but I found it quite fascinating
Lyle* the kid’s name is Lyle
How tf did you come up with CARL smh 😭😭😭
Lyle how the fck u forget Los Pollos's main man.
you crimes are unforgivable
I think Gus is very idiosyncratic. It seems he truly cares about his Los Pollos Hermanos employees, disliking that Hector uses them as collateral that one time. But also he takes great pleasure in the suffering of those who he thinks deserves it. This shows a differentiation between innocent and not innocent, which I think drives his worldview. Max wasn't deserving of being killed and those who killed him were then guilty. His emotions are inseparable from his character and actions.
You state he ‘cares about the Los Pollos employees, but you leave out his torturing his manager just to keep him there until the restaurant is blown up. To me, he sees everyone only as instruments of use until he accomplishes the only thing he LIVES for, REVENGE. Which is the driving force for Walter as well.
@@judywright4241 he tortured a manager? When did that happen?
@@judywright4241 I wouldn't actually call it torturing the manager - at least I think that is a bit overexaggerated. And I think it is important that he didn't just do it out of spite towards the employee but because he needed him to stay long enough. If something had to be done for him to achieve whatever he set himself out to do, then it would be a done deal.
Yes he was that nice to Lylye that the guy even opened Los Pollos while singing the Los Pollos theme song thats one happy employee 😂
Honestly a Gustavo Fring backstory series would be the most logical next step if the creators decide to continue expanding the universe
But how do you de age gus pre bcs
@@ozbej5988 you don’t have to it could be his earlier years of crime not just what happened in BB
Like use another actor to portray his way younger self
@@MitsubishiLancerEvo no
@@MitsubishiLancerEvo you dumn?
He never directly says he tortured the animal he just says he kept it and it lived for many years. Given the context it can be inferred that like the tree he would not give up on Hector. From what I understand he was a pretty happy man up until his partner was killed. I'd like to believe that was the moment his humanity died and that he simply tamed a minor beast as a poor child often does.
If you believe that Gus nursed this animal back to health after catching it, why would he claim that, "the merciful thing would have been to kill it," as nursing an animal back to health is far more merciful than death.
@@chesenuggetmachinima do poor people have money to be taking animals to a vet? Let alone a single child in Brazil? The humane thing when a horse breaks its leg is to kill it, though you can rehabilitate it with enough money and veterinary personel it'll never walk or run the way it did before and may end up with a severe limp or immobilized limb. Yes the humane thing is to cull the animal but people are often greedy.
@@Ry-nx3fh i see your point, and i dont think he did more than not helping/killing it, putting in a cage until it died, which is terrible and imo doesnt fit his character, but it doesnt make sense that he would keep it as a pet given his comment.
@@Ry-nx3fh You'd have to make the argument that this animal's injury is so horrible to treat and live on with or recover from that death is better. Horses -- that is fairly correct. What about this animal? Furthermore, if Gus truly kept an animal in agony for so long as a child, letting it live through it's hypothetically merciless injury with no recovery path, who's to say that he then wouldn't be capable of taking the easy step forward of actively torturing it as well? This step would be an easy one as displayed by the already pathalogical behavior in childhood that you note.
@@chesenuggetmachinima this animal ripped its leg free from a snare breaking it in the process. More than likely there would have been damage to the tendons and ligaments within the leg itself likely tears which by themselves won't heal right they would need to be surgically reattached. Without that the leg would be immobilized in whatever position it healed in. Sure he could have left it in a cage it's whole life but given the context of the first part of this video it can be argued he was a decent enough impoverished man up until his lover was killed in front of him bringing his sense of being wronged to the highest point in most anyone's life.
They way they wrote characters in these shows is so detailed. It’s perfection.
Just from an editing perspective, that cut from Gus screaming as he realizes what's about to happen to Gus standing up normally from a previous meeting with Hector was flawless.
I always viewed Gus threatening Walt with the lives of his family was a bluff or a half measure. And Heisenberg, thanks to Mike, went full measure on Gus afterwards. Walt was his greatest underestimation since the day Max was murdered.
Pretty much. There was nothing stopping gus from killing walt right there in the desert
@@caralho5237Jesse wouldn't cook for him. That's what it was.
Threatening Walt's family was pure Machiavelli - you tell someone you'll do the most horrible thing(s) to them, whether or not you actually intend to, so that they are intimidated into cooperation. It was a cold and calculated way of forcing Walt to back down. And it would have worked, if Skyler hadn't given away the money to Ted. After Gus's threat to kill his family, Walt immediately tried to flee, and the only reason he didn't flee was he couldn't afford to pay the vacuum cleaner guy his fee, so he was forced to stay and fight. which Gus had no way of knowing. It backfired on Gus in the end, but it was the smart move at the time.
I'm also curious about just who Gus was before he moved to Mexico. There's whatever happened in Santiago, an event mentioned but we never see or hear much more about. Whoever he was whatever he did was notable enough to get the cartel's attention despite the poor record keeping under Pinochet.
I hope they get into that in season 6
Maybe they will do a gus fring origin movie/series.
Need a new actor giancarlo too old
I think Santiago is referring to the killing of Gus partner max.
@@victorcastrellon2724 Nah, Max was for sure killed in mexico, not chile. I think "Santiago" will have something to do with being in the military, or being involved in the very beginnings of cocaine trafficking. Maybe both?
Gus is the boss anyone would be lucky to work for. What cemented that for me was when he had an operating room with blood at the ready to look after those at the pool party that time
Yeah tell that to Victor
@@SuperGamer4444 Hes killed because he tried to cook meth?
@@skw333831 Victor was killed because he got caught snooping around at Gale's house.
After seeing what happened to Victor, I would not work for him even he asks.
@@JJ-fb2lp That was due to Victor's own mistake, though. As Mike stated, if they had just accepted their place within the operation and just do what they were hired to do they wouldn't have had any issues.
Gus Fring is my favorite character in any TV show ever and one of my favorite characters in all of fiction. Despite being a bad guy, you can't help but root for him and respect him
Kinda like Negan!😎
What do you think of this Gus Fring vs Negan?
Well Gus is my 1st favorite Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul character because he's badass, ruthless, smart, methodical, calculating, ambitious, charismatic, power hungry and accomplished a lot.
Gus Fring isn't my all-time favorite character. That would probably be Nucky Thompson from Boardwalk Empire. But I agree that Gus was the coolest character on Breaking Bad. I liked Gus more than Walt
@@randybarnett2308 Both are ones of a top tier TV antagonists but Gus is better.
Honestly I wanna see the writers of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul create a show in a different universe, completely unrelated to the Breaking Bad universe. I bet it would still be gold
Hopefully b a prequel on gus! That's wot I'm hoping for
Hopefully b a prequel on gus! That's wot I'm hoping for
Gus Fring is such a cool character. He's like the ultimate professional and the two-faced aspect works really well. He seems like such a nice and caring guy when he's working at his store while destroying cartels in the drug world.
destroying cartels? he is the cartel, and this is a civil war
I would love to see a similar in depth analysis of Lalo’s character
best to wait for szn 6 to be over before we see that
Lalo sucks
@@LoveIsFreedom. To me, more like Carson Welles.
@@tommycoe2333 terrible opinion
@@shake9662 Lalo is literally the worst character of Braking bad and Better Call Saul. He's so unbelievable.
Psychopaths are often capable of feeling empathy and love, but these emotions are accessible in a manner akin to a tenuous switch. A new love can switch on the humanity, while hurt, rage, depression, obsession, and mood swings can trigger the monster. Gus's duality of emotion is a realistic depiction of severe psychopathy.
Thanks for saying this, it’s true. People contain many aspects and those with disorders and mental issues that make them more ruthless do not lack the capability for certain emotions, feelings and relationships.
They are simply harder to and less likely to be accessed, largely because of an underdeveloped sense of empathy and hyperactive systems of aggression, resentfulness etc.
He's not a psychopath. He can have psychopathic tendencies, but he's not a psychopath. And no, psychopaths are not capable of empathy. This is a dangerous statement, because it can convince those with little knowledge of this disorder, to lower their guard more than normal, and become trusting these monsters.
@@th3azscorpio you do realise that not all psychopaths/sociopaths are bad people, right?
@@fascilime Nope, all of them are. At their core they are pure evil. Something not capable of true empathy, or care for others, is the first standard in the foundation for evil.
@@th3azscorpio I think maybe you should go outside once and a while and touch grass
Well, as a happily married man, if someone happened to shot my wife in front of me and force me to stare at it with a foot on my face, probably the only thing that would matter for me would be to destroy those people just like Gus did. I truly don't blame Gus for anything else he's done after that. Those people were despicable not because they were drug dealers, they were despicable because they didn't respect anybody and didn't care for anything besides themselves. Gus was also a drug dealer and yes he did some terrible stuff, however, his words still stand: he's not like them. One of the greatest characters in all TV history IMHO.
I mean he did threatened to kill Walter Jr and Holly.
He threatened Walt's innocent family and killed a kid. You're a really bad judge of character.
@@purplesamurai5205 threatened, yep. He could've just killed Skyler or Walt Jr or even the baby just to send a message. Like they did his boyfriend, like Todd did with Andrea later on. Did he? Even when he had the final resolution to kill Walt, he didn't even have people near his family.
@@Henrique.Souza0601 Yeah because they were being protected by the DEA
@stay mad Motivation is subjective. Everyone is the hero of the story in their own mind.
Giancarlo Esposito deserves to be much more well known. He's a great boon to ANY show or movie he's in. As soon as I see that he's in something I'm watching it. Been a fan for decades!
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Gus turned into what is called a dark empath after max died, he is empathetic, and he understands what makes people happy and what makes them suffer. He has chosen to revel in the suffering of the cartel and specifically Hector Salamanca. He compartmentalizes this trait and only reveals and unleashes it on his enemies or adversaries, but he always has the aura around him of its dark potential which is what makes him so fearsome even to friends. For context, this new concept of a Dark Empath is something being explored in the study of anti-social personalities and is being considered one of the most dangerous ones because it's more or less a deliberate choice to cause harm when you know what that harm feels like, he's doing it specifically because it's harmful. Where Psychopaths and Sociopaths don't understand how to feel in your shoes and just do what they feel is best for them harmful or not.
I've never heard of this term, (dark empath), but you can bet i'm going to google and read all about it. How fascinating! I've always thought there had to be another category other than just socio/psycho/path. Thanks for the comment!
There is some saying about the danger of throwing stones from a glass house.
For the most part, autistic people don't understand how to feel in your shoes so they just do what they feel would be best for you if you were similar to them, which you aren't. Even in that case where an intent to do good exists the autistic person will be physically or emotionally attacked, outcast, fired, disowned by family, something negative. Not just negative reactions sometimes, every time. To the startling degree that they have been bullied their entire lives, people typically considered to be healthy role models seem like sociopaths to them. Almost everyone seems sociopathic to them in relative terms and a much larger swarth of individuals seem to be purely evil, from their point of view, than would be true from your point of view. Do they have the right to say that? Of course not, just another opportunity for bias to gin up a mob into chasing them with pitch forks.
We should only be asking if evil is something that exists or not. All relevant understanding of evil flows from that. To do otherwise can only create a biased mess.
Psychology major lmao
Simple terms a narcissist
while i do think Gus has his antisocial traits, he also has a considerable amount of obsessive compulsive personality traits. he is persistent at what he does, and he would continue even if he were to fail (with an exception of his death of course). he has a feeling of needing to be in control of the fate of the salamancas among other things, not only out of vengeance but because the power was taken from him at one point, and that sits with a deep discomfort for him. in many instances his careful calculations are a show of rigid perfectionism and he can become unreasonably distressed if something does not go according to his plan. we see this even in the moments of his death, where his immediate reaction was just to scream. after that, before he collapses, he calmly straightens his tie as almost a last hope to regain his control and continue persisting.
Gus has been the greatest character of all of the BrBa universe. And it's by a thin margin. Every major character in this universe is unbelievable. I'm going to miss these 2 shows immensely when they're done...
No i put Walt at the number 1 spot, and Gus number 2
I really like the theory that he was part of the Chilean junta under pinochet, perhaps a high ranking member of the military or secret police. Explains his connections, his talent for logistics and also his talent for clinical violence such as when he dispatches Victor with the box cutter and Hector's man with the plastic bag
He was also an important man to the cartel. Even in the early days before he was actually in the cartel. Remember how Don Eladio told Gus the only reason Gus was alive and Max wasn't alive, was because Don Eladio knew "who he was." Going by that, Gus must have been a high ranking guy in Chile, probably in Pinochet's cabinet, and must have been more useful to the cartel alive than dead.
And I always thought military, but now that you mentioned it, secret police sounds closer. That was a good call.
If hes supposed to be gay or bi (implied that he loved his partner in a more than a professional or friendship sense) that maybe conflicts with him working for Pinochet.
As much as BCS made Gus more terrifying, the biggest change to how I viewed his story in BB is how much it sucks that Hector won in the end. I would definitely consider Gus the lesser of two very great evils there.
They both did some pretty bad shit. The difference is that Gus was charismatic and in control, while Hector was just a vicious thug.
love your BB/BCS Postings, they are smart and well made! not just click bait.
#Agreed!!!
Gus was a villain I could respect. Didn’t lash out randomly at people not in “the game”. As Omar use to say “man’s gotta have a code”. Plus he was an excellent business man and understood what low key really was.
"Dexter" certainly had his code. Only butchers bad people.
He ordered for that kid to be killed in breaking bad
@@zeshanahmed32 I never said “Hero” I could respect.
@@noneed4me2n7 lmao how is ordering that kill “having a code” and I don’t think the kid was really “in the game”
@@zeshanahmed32 I think your overthinking it all. Maybe I’m sociopathic who cares.
I think Gus exemplifies the entirety of most main characters in the Breaking Bad Verse, duality. No one person is one dimensional. There’s light and dark in all of us. These characters are express the most exaggerated aspects.
There are theories Gus being an agent of Pinochet's regime and Peter Schuler, head of Madrigal Inc were together both in war crimes and drug businesses. So he did not have to find his penchant to cruelty after Max's death, as it was constantly present.
That would actually fit with his character quite well. Specifically I'm thinking of his genuine love of commerce and business, to an almost fetishistic level with the way he runs and adores his los pollos Hermanos store
Gus Fring is one of the best villain in any TV show. Especially in Season 4 Breaking Bad
Better than Lorne Malvo?
@@sidneyshaw9205 both are great
It's amazing that Walter was the one that saw Gus' weakness. The reason why Gus tried to get rid of Walter was not because Walter was incompetent but because Gus was afraid of Walter.
This riminded me a lot of "I have no mouth and I must scream", a story in which an all powerful AI keeps the last of humanities remamants in an altered form but yet conscious of their own suffering in order to in act his vengance upon his creators.
Not knowing his full backstory makes him scarier.
Giancarlo Espocito totally owned this role. The layers to his acting are impressive. An excellent character whether you love or loathe him.
"Revenge."
- Gus Fring
The fact he can change his expression so easily between crime and not crime, the fact that his words when not in crime is so genuine and sweet, but is really just fake, makes him so terrifying.
A really elegant summary of a complex man. Enjoyed every minute of this.
Gus and Mike were always my favourite characters in the whole series. Gus’s war with the cartel was the most exciting part of the show, when he walks confidently into oncoming sniper fire was some S tier bad assery.
I positively LOVE Gus Fring. I wish there was a show only about him and his plans. I woudl be the very first to watch/subscribe and even take notes on his machiavellianism. The only problem with his character is that he's becoming a little too much of a super human caricature., 'sensing doom under the parked car,' speaking like a sort-of Columbian Hannibal Lecter. But I love him....his character is AWESOME.
I don't see that as him being "super human". He's an extremely methodical, detail-oriented man. I can buy him subconsciously feeling something is "off" and deciding to listen to it.
@@RaptorJesus Totally understand. I feel that Gus is shown to be a little 'over the top' when it comes to his abilities. But, again, it's a fictional show. All hail to Raptor Jesus...the claws of logic. :)
Aspecting a bombing under you car is not that weird. In countries with a lot of organised crime is actually quite common ( you see it all the time in Italian shows and documentaries). You also have to take into account that he wasn’t doing something he had planned for and from this he could have deduced that it was some sort of trap. Leaving your car alone in a place you didn’t plan to go as a drug kingpin it’s obviously dangerous especially with your nemesis at large.
I loved how his 6th sense turned on when he walked towards his car. I think it was legit and plausible. He was thinking about what had happened and he realized something wasn't adding up. Jesse told him a story that didn't make sense: someone poisoned a kid for some reason and the doctors don't know how. We can assume that Gus is an expert on poisons, having poisoned the Cartel members. So there he was with a very agitated Jesse that was refusing to work, a poisoned kid and Walt somewhere out there, who despite his warning made a phone call to Hank to protect him. I think he correctly assumed that the Cartel or Walt might have something to do with this. The reason he didn't suspect the same thing with Hector is because Hector did have a reason to talk to the DEA after he killed everyone in the South, so it was plausible that his anger got the better of him. Although I'm also sure that Walt would never have entrapped him, had Mike been there to advise Gus.
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I just today, literally today about 1 hour ago completed the last episode. Holy smokes, we (with my friends) have started watching this since the Oct-2022 and it is today 8th Sep-2023. BB has shared all seasons, be it winter, summer or monsoon we used to watch it on the terrace in the home projector under the open sky. This one is one of my most memorable moments in life 🤟
There is nothing about Gustavo Fring I didn’t absolutely admire. He was incredible. …and what a way to go out -exploding with Hector. 🤯👍🏼🥰
I do think empathy is necessary to enjoy the suffering of others. Otherwise, how would it bring you emotional satisfaction to torture someone?
How is that empathy? You're feeling joy for YOURSELF. Not for others.
@@zombifiedpariah7392 But you have to be able to imagine the pain the other person is feeling and be able to guess if they are in pain in order to savour it.
@@desaturated-firefox Oh I think I get it now...
@@zombifiedpariah7392 "evil" people can be empathetic too. It's not limited to "good" people
Problem with being empathic is that you feel their suffering. It literately hurts you to hurt them.
I always found it odd that Gus spoke to the unconscious Hector in English, considering they are both native Spanish speakers, and that he paused his coati story to explain what a coati was. Since they are an animal found not only in Chile but north into Mexico as well, Hector likely would already be familiar with them.
It would be like if someone from South Carolina were telling a person from Pennsylvania a story and paused the narrative to explain what a deer or squirrel was, two well known animals found widely in both states, vs just saying “deer” or “squirrel” and moving on.
i wonder if gus was more proficient in english than hector and used it intentionally bc it confused hector and forced him to have to keep up. to not speak to him in his native language? idk tho, good point.
@Alexei Smirnoff exactly. There’s no reason for this, just for the viewers to understand.
no coatis in chile bro
@Alexei Smirnoff yeah I think both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul as result of being products of English speakers only use Spanish when necessary
Hey now, don't ruin our adoration for a perfect badass lol
I didn't imagine at the start of Breaking Bad Season 2, that the old mute guy in the wheelchair would be one of the most important characters in the franchise.
Gus Fring is the Tywin Lannister of Breaking Bad, in that he does not seem to lack the ability to experience empathy or to understand social norms, but rather chooses to be ruthless for the sake of his ambitions. Both characters are also implied to have been somewhat softer before the death of a loved one who previously curbed their worst impulses.
Tywin was ruthless before the death of his wife. Rest In Peace House Reyne
@@MrElmofamily That's true, but according to the books, he was known to have had some mercy and humanity in him before the death of Joanna. He would even smile in her presence (which, if you know Tywin, is a pretty huge deal).
At least Tywin had family. Like he told Jaime in season 1, family is all that matters. Gus didn't have anyone close to him after Max died.
Well.. maybe the German guy who committed suicide in BB.
@@samg.5165 I read the books. Tywin was always pretty cold to everyone but his wife.
Rage without impulsiveness can persist and even grow. Never piss off someone with patience.
Thanks for reminding me how great Breaking Bad was, I had nearly forgot.
It's impossible for me to forget hahaha.
How do you love and despise a person at the same time? In everything I have seen Giancarlo Esposito do, I have been totally enthralled by his performance. A lot of these big-shot actors/actresses could learn a ton about acting from this guy!!
Gus fring the way he was able to blend in normally really truly makes him the IMPOSTER AMONGUS
SUS
I wish they hadn't included the scene where he tells his sinister story from his childhood. To me it seems out of character. Based on BB it appeared to me that Gus was living a happy life before Max got killed. I'm sure he was up to stg nasty back in Chile but I imagined him as a young fanatic, not a full-blown sociopath who does it for the sake of hurting people. I imagined that his fiendish silent murderer demeanor developed after his soul got crushed when Max died. But the story suggests that he was always like this. Which I can't really imagine in light of his relationship with Max.
That scene where he started walking towards the sniper was probably the most badass scene besides Walt jr calling skylar a bitch 😈
He may be 'vengeful', but not without justification in his perspective, and remember what he said when trying to convince Mike to work for him, "I'm not like them" (the murderous Salamanca cartel).
I hope they'll make a spin off about Gus. He's my favorite character of this universum.
Interesting idea about Gus being mentally off even as a child. The problem with seeing it as true is twofold: One we get the sense that Gus is spared because he is from a wealthy family with powerful connections not a poor family selling fruit from a tree. His refined manners and culinary skills suggest that. Two, he is not emotionally empty because he loved his partner and is forever scarred after that. We are suppose to see his killing as the transformational act that changed Gus. The true brilliance of the combination of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is how these people are transformed into monsters because of the violent environment they live in. This is well documented with Walt but it occurs in most of the other characters if we get a look at their backgrounds. Crazy 8, Nacho, the Salmanca Twins, Hank, Jesse, Mike, Skyler. All of these people are psychologically altered by stress and violence. That is what makes the Gus story to an unconcious Hector feel not real.
There are no coaties here in Chile , it was so weird to me that Gus found a coati in Santiago noneless, even in the outside rural parts of the metropolitan region.
Didn't he say that he lived near the mountains or something like that
@@jagmaharesi2486 Santiago is literally in a hole between mountains, there are valleys near Santiago like cajón del maipo, but there aren't any coaties. The only place in Chile where there are is in Juan Fernandez archipelago to the south, it was introduces there by with the first incoming ships to hunt mice, yet they ended up eating other native animals and they are now considered a plague.
I seriously doubt he was in a island, there are not many people living there.
I have always believed Gus and Max being from Chile was poorly thought out. i think they just randomly picked a southamerican country, it would've made more sense if they were from Brazil or Uruguay where afro-descendants are more commonly seen. In Chile was very unusual up until the 2000s or later, but i guess the historical context of Pinochet's dictatorship was more interesting from a drug narrative standpoint (cocain and pasta base was more widely spread around those years)
@@Chibiknux interesting
Man Gus really is something else as a character...
Holy shit, a verified channel with 3 likes. cool.
I love the synopsis! That was awesome! Thank you so much!
They could do a spin-off series of Gustavo too. They did such a good job building the characters I’d happily watch any extra content they would grace us with.
Gus & Ghost my two favorite iconic characters in television history, the shaprness & patience it takes to overcome the ones who doubted them made them the antihero’s they were
Who is Ghost?
I always thought Max had been Gus's brother .___.
I mean, they called the restaurant Los Pollos Hermanos
im so glad you made this video - thank you !
Gus was my favorite character and he didn't ever get enough recognition for the brilliance of his performance.
Gus Fring is definitely my favorite character in the BB/BCS universe besides Saul.
Learning about Gus much more in BCS I have noticed Gus has OCD. Also in Breaking Bad Walt always tried to understand why Gus killed Victor with the box cutter. I think Gus killed Victor because he was seen at Gale's crime scene!
Yeah mike says that and there is a composite sketch of victor at the dea
You just figured that out? I swear many people do not pay attention or don't know how to detect subtlety.
E.g. many people have been surprised when I tell them Mike murdered the living amputee cousin in the hospital with a lethal injection. The only way to know is a very brief shot of Mike dropping a syringe in the biohazard box.
It must suck to watch shows and miss out on so much.
@@HarryBalzak Where do I say that I just noticed these things? I noticed Mike killing the surviving cousin the first time I saw BB. That is why Gus delivered the chicken himself so he would draw as many cops as possible away from the area where the cousin was being kept.
I wish you would answer this question though. Does anyone know what Gus meant when he told his German business associate "Peter Schuler" in a hotel room with Lydia there too, in early season 5 of BCS, "Remember when we had our backs against the wall in Santiago, Remember what you did?" I know Gus a was a top General in the Chilean Army in the 80's so I assume his German friend from Madrigal was a high ranking officer too.
How does he have ocd? just because he's clean?
@@Melanieortegahtx If you know anyone with OCD you will easily see the connection
Great piece you have done here!!
The Lucuma tree story reminds me a lot of actual accounts told about people with psychopathy in their youth. Starting out small with something like an animal and eventually torturing and murdering humans. That said, Gus's thirst for revenge against Hector could almost just be understood, since if we have someone dear to us, and they are taken away abruptly and without reason, I'm sure a lot of people would go to such lengths to sate their need for closure.
nothing wrong with torturing animals okay!?
@@Ch4rlz_ThA_Princ3 what
@@priyapepsi we do a little trolling 😏
was his relationship with Max really only implied? I think it was very obvious and a main reason Max was killed.
It wasn't ever implied. Just said as a joke I think.
Quit projecting.
Yes they were obviously lovers.
Dude, great analysis!
Thank you Doug!
Gus is such a brilliantly written character
I rarely ever hate and love a character this much simultaneously
I feel like BCS not digging too deep into Gus Fring's past is paving the way for a future "Rise of Gustavo Fring'' spin off series. There must be a reason they aren't attempting to shed much light on his backstory. We are at our final season if they were going to delve deeper into his life in Chile we would have seen it by now..
Fantastic video! I loved this analysis and how you explained it by breaking it down that made it easy to understand. Great job, yo! 😁👌
This character deserves his own series.
Didn't learn one thing from this video but I liked it!! Good job.
This is impressive content. Really impressive. Instant sub.
Thank you! 🙏
I have a lot of respect for Gus's character. He said he "saw something" in Jesse, of which I think he saw loyalty. Loyalty to the wrong man, as Mike said. I am the same way. I've been searching my entire life for someone I could devote my undying loyalty to, and have been continuously disappointed. Gu's attention to detail and respect for the little things like clearing trash from a table. You're never too rich to do small tasks, always remain humble in your work. I wish I could take that hurt of losing a loved one to the cruel, animalistic ways of the cartel and nurture his loving, warm side. Forget revenge, as you will only ever live in that dark head space. Never freeing yourself from the pain. A young girl whom I am an acquaintance of, had her arm ripped off by a drunk boyfriend over a decade ago. While I could never say I understand her pain, I've often spoke about not putting down anchor in that part of her life. It had nothing to do with anyone but her. Her happiness. She lives with him, even though her goal is to "make him suffer everyday for taking her arm." In doing that, she's only hurting herself in the long run. Sorry for going off about that, but I feel like Gus's character has so much potential to do so much good and one day love again, if he would only let go of the stupid cartel family, as they typically lack the empathy to learn from their mistakes, anyway.
Life's quite depressing as it is. And your acquaintance's ways... cant say I fully support it, but I understand it. It is the sort of situation, when I wouldnt do it, but I wouldnt judge if I saw it being done to someone deserving of such treatment. its quite a mess
Better Call Saul is the definition of prequel. In the way it's giving you more of the same just happening before but also elevating the material happening after it.
Gus Fring is a phenomenally amazing villain, perhaps the best example of a psychopath that I have ever seen. He's normal enough to be believable, and crazy enough to scare. The creators did a great job. And after watching the awesome "Better Call Saul", I am now even more impressed that Walt was able to defeat such a terrible opponent. Thank you for your video, it was very interesting to watch. 😏
Am I the only one who sees irony in a fast-food guy with the name "Fring?"
It's been so long, I've already forgotten how season 5 ended. I will need to rewatch season 5 again just so I can be up to speed on season 6.
Another excellent video.
Normally, the most hateful people are the ones who loved the hardest.
I always thought Gus was supposed to be the son of Agusto Pinochet and the German guy was a rich nazi who was hiding in Chile after world War 2. They took off from Chile in 1989 when it was falling apart. I could be wrong but the fact he was some huge big shot in Chile always made me think of that possibility.
The German guy would have been a little too young to be a Nazi. At least an authentic WW2 Nazi. I think they were probably fellow soldiers in Pinochet's army. Gus was very grateful to the german guy for something he did when "their backs were against the wall" down in Chile. I always assumed it was some heroic act during military combat.
Yeah, but I never knew they implied he and Max were lovers. Went WAY over my head.
I really needed this Gus Fring update it really helped
I swear, Giancarlo plays the same character in everything he is in, and he absolutely nails it every time.
Gus is still a nurturer. don't forget that. He's just a very balanced one. He still cares for his community back in Mexico. he still earnestly supports his community in New Mexico and employees at Pollos Hermanos. he offered them free therapy. the guy did not lose a part of his soul when Max died. they were literally meth dealers.
the Lucuma Y Coati story is the perfect illustration for who Gus truly is. he's a nurturer through and through. but whether he nurtures you to death or nurtured you to life is his choice. he nurtured a lucuma tree from near death, and used it to feed his family and community. He loves to feed people. he cooked for Walt and Jesse and truly opened himself up to them about his joy for cooking. the way he savors/plans killing people is the flip side of the same coin. it's not even always about making someone suffer. it's about precision and efficiency a lot of the time.
The nurturing and efficient and precise thing to do would have been to capture that little coati thief, take it to mom, and help her make a nice stew or coati-kebab for the family's dinner! ;-)
@@melissas7980 yummmm. I love delicious coati🙌🙏🏻
@@a.KniteOwl LOL Right?! But hey, hungry people all over the world have eaten and DO eat stranger things than coati! With a few good Chilean spices, i bet it would be tasty!
@@melissas7980 as long as it's been raised on a strict lucuma diet, I'm in
@@a.KniteOwl ok. i'm cracking up over here! I had to google "lucuma." Thanks for the detail and the FUN!
I always thought gus was evil. And he became worse due to maxes death. But interesting. And a mastermind. Scariest villian on either show.
I am right in the middle of binge-watching Better Call Saul!!
Life is good.
Damn that was deep. Gus has always been my top 3 fav characters in the show