Just received the M23 21L black/red 500d edition. Fully packed out and the width is less than 12 inches and no where close to the 14.5 inches stated on the website.
At this point GORUCK is competing with itself and confusing new and long time buyers with sizes and materials. I’m happy to see new models coming out but they’ve disappointed a lot of people by not producing more G22s. All the new materials for the bullets are interesting but the plethora of size/material combos is hard to keep track of. The new 35L GR3 is a brilliant move, they just need to offer more colours. They’re going to make a lot of people happy and are reducing the pressure on SCARS with all of its features. The long term reliability testing is a great angle, looking forward to the next dragging. Your enthusiasm is contagious, thanks for another interesting review.
Thanks! Appreciate your comments always. My intent with the bullet video was to try and simplify some of the newness. Looks like a need a GORUCK for DUMMIES video to explain the current state of affairs maybe
Comparing the GR1 and M23 dimensions (21L and 26L), the M23 dimensions are way bigger and yet they're listed as the same liter capacity as the GR1s. Would love to see a comparison video if the M23s indeed fit more based on the larger dimensions of the bags. GR1 21L Dimensions: 11.5"W x 18"H x 5.5"D / 21L Weight: 2.8 LBS GR1 26L Dimensions: 12"W x 20"H x 6.75"D / 26L Weight: 3.1 LBS M23 Dimensions 21L: 14.5"W x 7.5"D x 19"H; Weight: 2.8lbs M23 Dimensions 26L: 14.5”W x 8.5”D x 21.5”H; Weight: 3.1lbs
I wish I had seen this comment before I impulsively bought the 26L...maybe I should get the 21L and send back the one I don't keep. I currently EDC the GR2 26L.
I have an M22 and I LOVE it. As soon as the email dropped I grabbed up the M23 26L. I love all the new additions. I chose the 26L for the one-bag travel capabilities. I have used the M22 as a ultralight/warm-weather one-bag travel option. The little extra room in the M23 may be the "Goldilocks" for me. The size may not work for others, but I can travel VERY light even in colder temps. Super excited to get my hands on it and start "configuring my loadout"!!
Grabbed one as soon as the email/text went out. Loved the m22 but felt it was just a little too small for onebag travel. Got the 26L because a 26L gr1 has been my go to for onebag traveling.
Seeing as the top when opened folds over, wouldn’t it have made sense to have the mesh pocket zipper on the other end so your stuff didn’t fall out?? Does anyone designing these packs have any pack experience?! You would think by know with the constant upgrades and changes, these issues would not be occurring.
Great video as usual. I REALLY like the M23. I love external hidden bottle pockets. Can’t stand bottles sticking out the sides of bags. I put my bottles inside or grab something to drink on the go. Outdoor bags with external bottle pockets are ok, that’s part of what an outdoor bag is for. Otherwise No for me. This I think would be a mostly outdoor bag. The ‘Bat Wings’ you mentioned are called ‘Gussets’ lol 😆😊
In regards to the gusset flap in the front stash pocket of the M22. This was put in since there were two zippers and if the user chose to have both zippers in the downward position, and didn’t zip all the way, the small opening could allow something small to slip out. But in the M23 since there’s only one zipper and you can only zip upward to close, there’s little risk in anything slipping out.
I returned my 26L M23 and picked up a 21L version. I really like this bag. It's a little short, but I think it's better for EDC. 26L GR1 is still my go to if I need carry a lot of stuff. Thanks for the great videos.
I ordered the 21l too. Missed always the M22 so I am happy on the new M23. The only thing is I am normally not the black backpack guy. OD or khaki would be nice but anyway 🤷🏼
Just so everyone is tracking I have touched both and sized both the 26 and 21 and the difference in size is INTENSE. I honestly feel like there is just as much capacity in the 26L as my 40-45L hiking bags. Just a heads up.
The M23 checks one HUGE box for me. It has the Fidlock V-Buckles. I am not a fan at all of the bags with a drawstring top, but being able to access the inside of the bag from the side zip makes it acceptable. I do wish it had a big external water bottle pocket, but it does have one through the zipper. I’m on the fence.
I really like the idea of the M23 more than the M22. If I wasn't in the middle of buy Christmas gifts, I'd give it a shot. I don't really love top loaders, but with the additional access I'd like to try it. If they figured out a way to give that thing dual front zips so it opened up as a panel similar to a Spartan/Blitz style bag... I think it would be amazing. I really like that large front pocket.
It’s interesting this trend of GR going into the 420d space. I think a bag drag would be a great idea to see how well it wears. Definitely a departure from their overbuilt founding, but not bad for those who want that lighter weight edc carry. I personally like the heavier material (wish my MPL22 was 840 instead of 420), but they will start drawing over a different customer base with these newer designs and fabric.
Ya, I won’t purchase just yet. Want to see long term result. I’m still not totally sold on the 210 back/straps, but haven’t had an issue with mine yet.
Goruck is really setting the bar to a higher standard this year: Woodland Waxed collection, GR3 35l, Robic versions, Dual Compartment Bullets and now M23. Thanks for reviewing this awesome new version on release day so we can all see the pack!
@@JBOutside1 follow up: after further inspection it’s the waterproof coating coming off where the drawstring tightens. Not a big deal. Been on a 7 day excursion in Mexico and it’s holding up great.
Great breakdown on the new M23 JB, for myself, I am going to hold-off in the hopes that at some point they offer an X-Pac / Aquaguard version. Really nice upgrades though, and I do agree with you on the one side pocket, bring back the two zipper option.
Awesome review. I think this would be perfect commuting to work on my Brompton. Curious, does the M23 holds it form when not packed out or stand on its own?
Totally off tangent but kinda related :p - I wish these brands start to measure 16" laptops instead of 16"mbp only. As my recycled firefighter 24hr barely fits my lenovo slim 7 16". And that's not that much bigger than mbp 16 anyways. SO it won't make bags bigger. Its not like the difference between 18" laptops vs 16" mbp. This or any goruck will surely not fit normal sized slim 16" windows laptops as the compartment is too stiff fortunately the not so bombproof laptop compartment of recycled firefighter came to rescue I guess. I get it macbooks are ubiquitous but man once you switch from a MacBook to a laptop like I did you realize woah you've been playing with a toy all along. Anther great review as always JB.
nice review! thank you! have been looking forward to M23, but not so sure about the new material. would you test rucking with it? with plates, sand bag, dumbbells,,
So rucking with the M23, definitely possible. From what I can tell the frame sheet is not quite as thick as a Rucker so plates and sandbags would be good. Dumbell or bulky shaped object I wouldn’t recommend. The harness is standard GORUCK and identical to the Rucker so good there.
Is the M22 discontinued now? Goruck told me the was expecting to get more in around December and now the M23 comes out. I wanted that water bottle pocket on the M22. Not impressed with the materials or design of this bag especially when it isn't a made in the USA either. Too many trade offs for me. Awesome review
Super review! You almost talked me into a top loader. Too bad it's a smidge too long for my torso. Amazing how 1/2 an inch up or down makes a difference...me need down: 18.5" ...speaking of nothing (and I might have already asked. Senile), did you say yea or nay to the Dyneema? So much controversy about the zippers...Cheers.
I like the original GRXC1 Dyneema and haven't dabbled in any of the latest builds so I can't speak to it. People complain about the rain flap and my way of dealing with that is to fold it half and it works just fine.
Hello, could you add a comparison between the m23 and a GR1 26L or a bullet 15 in your future reviews? I own both and curious to see the size difference. Living in the uk is difficult to get one and send it back. Thank you :)
Nice video, JB. Do you think the side access (to the main compartment) be used as a side access to a camera in the bag? E.g., a mirrorless camera with a smaller body. I'm debating between this and the Shimoda 20L Urban Explore camera bag.
Are they just completely moving away from the 1000d cordura? Seems like all the recent releases have been this 500d ripstop. I'm not sure about the durability of this material. Anyone have more insight?
Yes, absolutely. Either style of GORUCK plate will work. The taller version will be more stable but if you plan to go with a Rucker someday I'd get the shorter style
Excellent. Thanks for the reply. As for the long pocket on the side, I'm thinking it will be a perfect place to store my Dyson hair straightening tool. Yes. A girlie thing. :)@@JBOutside1
Recently I have washed my GR1 (26L), however the overall material is 1000D Cordura. So I was wondering, how to wash M23 once it becomes dirty since the material used is 420D Robic Nylon. Any advice?
Yeah, great question and one I am seeing a lot of. Mostly comes down to your height mostly. The design of the bags lets them get over-packed so I'd guess that if you were concerned go with the 21L. Also depends on how you plan to use the bag.
So I ended up ordering the 21 and 26l, but the 26l came in today. Transferred my 26l GR2 contents into it and there's a ton of room left. I carry a North Face rain shell, a Goruck Indestructible Fleece pullover (both rolled), a Vanquest Dendrite fanny pack, a Vanquest organizer (boo boo kit), and a 38oz Tal water bottle. I roll the extra material down and cinch down the lid straps and it's good. I took off the sternum strap. I'm only 5'6 but the bag fits great. I'm not even going to unwrap the 21l when it comes.
I love the bag. I'm not a fan of rip-stop. I'm going to hold off and see if they come out with a special edition like with Carryology. Or perhaps a Dyneema edition. I also want to see what kind of upgrades SCARS can do. Needs more webbing to make it look more aggressive and tactical. You did point out a lot that I wish GoRuck would have left alone. I'm do like internal water bottle compartments. Especially if you aren't going to make it waterproof. For now I guess i'm going to wait. I was hoping that a new Bullet would come out with a laptop and a top storage compartments. Just can't get it all I guess.
@@JBOutside1 have both 18 and 24. Like the zipper designs over the pocket designs(newer). Most complaints about the bag is why i love it lol... "Water bottle takes internal space". Hiding the bottle while still accessible without opening the main compartment trumps the negative of taking internal space. "Smaller than advertised" my edc tends to be smaller. QAP like evergoods one but not as good but better than not having one. Front admin panel is way better any slip pocket or even evergoods vertical zip(work directly out of this panel). I think the look of the bag stays slim for 24L(my cpl24 epands out like a travel bag when im just trying to edc it ... 😅), (i like that the axiom holds firm shape and not bloat). Bottom zip i throw my keys there so i can swing bag into doors, office, mailbox etc(unlike new design of EG where i have to take the whole bag off and use key loop at the top... Very annoying). Or bags without it in general. Until all these features are beaten, i dont see me moving off it ever. What still shocks me is that this bag was released like 6 years ago.... IMHO, if they released this today, itd be best designed bag, like actually using a bag to date. To be so ahead of the time and fall off as a company is little strange and it sucks, maybe they went off too many directions with offerings 🤷🏻♂️.
I'd put real money on more colors and probably 500D coming soon (ripstop colors first I'd guess). As for the material, I'm still not decided yet. I am still in the honeymoon phase with all these robic bags and have like the experience thus far
I hear ya. While I do love the support from them (and the occasional early access) I do provide what I really think on the design. My last review at least in part influenced this design. They in no way tell me what to say in the videos. In fact, I received almost no information on this one except, here's the bag. So I had to break in down in my own way to present it to the masses. 100% all me in this video.
Just received the M23 21L black/red 500d edition. Fully packed out and the width is less than 12 inches and no where close to the 14.5 inches stated on the website.
Interesting
@@JBOutside1 fully packed out are the robic or waxed versions of the M23 21l 14.5 inches across?
At this point GORUCK is competing with itself and confusing new and long time buyers with sizes and materials.
I’m happy to see new models coming out but they’ve disappointed a lot of people by not producing more G22s.
All the new materials for the bullets are interesting but the plethora of size/material combos is hard to keep track of.
The new 35L GR3 is a brilliant move, they just need to offer more colours. They’re going to make a lot of people happy and are reducing the pressure on SCARS with all of its features.
The long term reliability testing is a great angle, looking forward to the next dragging.
Your enthusiasm is contagious, thanks for another interesting review.
Thanks! Appreciate your comments always. My intent with the bullet video was to try and simplify some of the newness. Looks like a need a GORUCK for DUMMIES video to explain the current state of affairs maybe
Comparing the GR1 and M23 dimensions (21L and 26L), the M23 dimensions are way bigger and yet they're listed as the same liter capacity as the GR1s. Would love to see a comparison video if the M23s indeed fit more based on the larger dimensions of the bags.
GR1 21L Dimensions: 11.5"W x 18"H x 5.5"D / 21L Weight: 2.8 LBS
GR1 26L Dimensions: 12"W x 20"H x 6.75"D / 26L Weight: 3.1 LBS
M23 Dimensions 21L: 14.5"W x 7.5"D x 19"H; Weight: 2.8lbs
M23 Dimensions 26L: 14.5”W x 8.5”D x 21.5”H; Weight: 3.1lbs
Good question. Let me see what I can do.
I wish I had seen this comment before I impulsively bought the 26L...maybe I should get the 21L and send back the one I don't keep. I currently EDC the GR2 26L.
I have an M22 and I LOVE it. As soon as the email dropped I grabbed up the M23 26L. I love all the new additions. I chose the 26L for the one-bag travel capabilities. I have used the M22 as a ultralight/warm-weather one-bag travel option. The little extra room in the M23 may be the "Goldilocks" for me. The size may not work for others, but I can travel VERY light even in colder temps. Super excited to get my hands on it and start "configuring my loadout"!!
Nice!! I have the big brother on the way to compare too
First the two compartment bullet BR2, and now this!? Strong 2023 finish Goruck - 'golf clap' 👏
👍🏻👊🏻
Grabbed one as soon as the email/text went out. Loved the m22 but felt it was just a little too small for onebag travel. Got the 26L because a 26L gr1 has been my go to for onebag traveling.
Nice! I'm not sure how I feel about the 26L so let me know what you think
Seeing as the top when opened folds over, wouldn’t it have made sense to have the mesh pocket zipper on the other end so your stuff didn’t fall out??
Does anyone designing these packs have any pack experience?!
You would think by know with the constant upgrades and changes, these issues would not be occurring.
I see your point!
I’ve got one on the way going with the 26L. I like the idea that I could put a ruck plate in the stretch pocket on the newest version.
Nice JB!
Great video as usual. I REALLY like the M23. I love external hidden bottle pockets. Can’t stand bottles sticking out the sides of bags. I put my bottles inside or grab something to drink on the go. Outdoor bags with external bottle pockets are ok, that’s part of what an outdoor bag is for. Otherwise No for me. This I think would be a mostly outdoor bag.
The ‘Bat Wings’ you mentioned are called ‘Gussets’ lol 😆😊
Haha, yeah when editing I realized I totally blanked on the correct term for those. Thanks!!
In regards to the gusset flap in the front stash pocket of the M22. This was put in since there were two zippers and if the user chose to have both zippers in the downward position, and didn’t zip all the way, the small opening could allow something small to slip out. But in the M23 since there’s only one zipper and you can only zip upward to close, there’s little risk in anything slipping out.
Nice. Makes sense! 🙏🏻
I returned my 26L M23 and picked up a 21L version. I really like this bag. It's a little short, but I think it's better for EDC. 26L GR1 is still my go to if I need carry a lot of stuff. Thanks for the great videos.
Very nice! Yeah that 26L is way bigger than 26L
i hope they don’t change all their packs to this material.
Totally agree and I don't think we'll ever see a wholesale change over to this exclusively, but I'd bet they offer the GR1s in it to see how it does.
Glad they released a new variant, hope they bring back a ranger green 500d version.
I think they definitely will, just not sure when exactly
I ordered the 21l too. Missed always the M22 so I am happy on the new M23. The only thing is I am normally not the black backpack guy. OD or khaki would be nice but anyway 🤷🏼
I hear ya...I bet we see new colors in the future..just not sure when
Just so everyone is tracking I have touched both and sized both the 26 and 21 and the difference in size is INTENSE. I honestly feel like there is just as much capacity in the 26L as my 40-45L hiking bags. Just a heads up.
Good stuff and I do think these are really big at hauling stuff. I'm planning on an update once I get the 26L M23.
With Goruck changing the pack closures, surprised they didn’t add a Fidlock to the sternum strap.
I agree
Great video but I love how every zipper pull was a first attempt then a realization that the other hand was needed
Haha, I didn’t notice…✋🏻🤚🏻
Great video once again. Would love one in the waxed canvas they used for the kit bags.
Me too! Let's hope!
The Bullet DC16 stole the show!
That bullet is really cool!!
The M23 checks one HUGE box for me. It has the Fidlock V-Buckles. I am not a fan at all of the bags with a drawstring top, but being able to access the inside of the bag from the side zip makes it acceptable. I do wish it had a big external water bottle pocket, but it does have one through the zipper. I’m on the fence.
Totally worth a shot IMHO
@@JBOutside1 Thank you, I’ll take that shot!
@@JBOutside1 Thank you for covering this bag. I never would have known about it otherwise.
The external pockets are great but I just can't chill with a top loader unless it's massive. Otherwise there's no benefit to top loading.
Then checkout the 26L M23...you could say it's "massive"
I really like the idea of the M23 more than the M22. If I wasn't in the middle of buy Christmas gifts, I'd give it a shot. I don't really love top loaders, but with the additional access I'd like to try it. If they figured out a way to give that thing dual front zips so it opened up as a panel similar to a Spartan/Blitz style bag... I think it would be amazing. I really like that large front pocket.
Gotcha. I don't see that happening in this design but that would be cool
It’s interesting this trend of GR going into the 420d space. I think a bag drag would be a great idea to see how well it wears.
Definitely a departure from their overbuilt founding, but not bad for those who want that lighter weight edc carry.
I personally like the heavier material (wish my MPL22 was 840 instead of 420), but they will start drawing over a different customer base with these newer designs and fabric.
Yes, maybe...I'm still not totally on board just yet, although I do like them
Ya, I won’t purchase just yet. Want to see long term result.
I’m still not totally sold on the 210 back/straps, but haven’t had an issue with mine yet.
I like the updates and am looking to change out my EDC from my GR1 but I’ll hold out a while to see if they come out with this in a waxed canvas.
Black waxed canvas? That’d be cool 😎
@@JBOutside1 Actually, I’d really like to see waxed ranger green. I think that would be the perfect look for the M23
Goruck is really setting the bar to a higher standard this year: Woodland Waxed collection, GR3 35l, Robic versions, Dual Compartment Bullets and now M23. Thanks for reviewing this awesome new version on release day so we can all see the pack!
You bet! Thanks for watching...and they might not be done yet!
Great video. Does the water bottle compartment of the M23 fits a 64Oz Stanley growler?
I don’t have a growler so I can’t verify. Sorry. But the pockets is very sizable and stretchy
6:38 Robic nylon GR1s soon! YEAH!
🤐
Ordered a 26l, never used a top loader before so I’m looking forward to it
I really hadn’t either and this one converted me
bigger laptop compartment for my dell xps 15" and it would have been instabuy .. love everything else about it.
Gotcha
Great review. Thank you!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
2 trips with it, using it intermittently as an edc since I got it about 6 weeks ago. Holes already appearing where the drawstring rubs. 🤦🏼♂️
Bummer. Contact SCARS
@@JBOutside1 follow up: after further inspection it’s the waterproof coating coming off where the drawstring tightens. Not a big deal. Been on a 7 day excursion in Mexico and it’s holding up great.
That's great news. Funny you mentioned this because a friend of mine is experiencing the same thing. @@mattwypijewski4192
Great breakdown on the new M23 JB, for myself, I am going to hold-off in the hopes that at some point they offer an X-Pac / Aquaguard version. Really nice upgrades though, and I do agree with you on the one side pocket, bring back the two zipper option.
We shall see!
Lmao. External water bottle pocket who needs that? I almost snapped bought the 26l glad I didn’t.
I’m still undecided on the bottle pocket redesign but I do like that’s it’s not gonna fly out
Pack looking good Chairman 🫡
BOOM!!! 👊🏻
Awesome review. I think this would be perfect commuting to work on my Brompton. Curious, does the M23 holds it form when not packed out or stand on its own?
Not really. It's a pretty loose material when not packed out.
I think I'll need azo to make some sorta custom amhara similar to this as I have no use for the laptop compartment.
That would be cool and I bet they can!
I just ordered one. We'll see. I'm hesitant on the material but I'll give it a go.
Let me know!
Totally off tangent but kinda related :p - I wish these brands start to measure 16" laptops instead of 16"mbp only. As my recycled firefighter 24hr barely fits my lenovo slim 7 16". And that's not that much bigger than mbp 16 anyways. SO it won't make bags bigger. Its not like the difference between 18" laptops vs 16" mbp. This or any goruck will surely not fit normal sized slim 16" windows laptops as the compartment is too stiff fortunately the not so bombproof laptop compartment of recycled firefighter came to rescue I guess. I get it macbooks are ubiquitous but man once you switch from a MacBook to a laptop like I did you realize woah you've been playing with a toy all along.
Anther great review as always JB.
I didn't know they still made windows laptops 😜
Hope they make a waxed canvas version.
Me too!
nice review! thank you! have been looking forward to M23, but not so sure about the new material. would you test rucking with it? with plates, sand bag, dumbbells,,
So rucking with the M23, definitely possible. From what I can tell the frame sheet is not quite as thick as a Rucker so plates and sandbags would be good. Dumbell or bulky shaped object I wouldn’t recommend. The harness is standard GORUCK and identical to the Rucker so good there.
Shweet! but i just can't do a draw string top like that...
I hear ya Tucker...and sometimes I just fold that material in on itself and it's all gone! Easy in and out then!
Is the M22 discontinued now? Goruck told me the was expecting to get more in around December and now the M23 comes out. I wanted that water bottle pocket on the M22. Not impressed with the materials or design of this bag especially when it isn't a made in the USA either. Too many trade offs for me. Awesome review
Thanks for watching! I have to imagine they were referring to the M23 when they sent that reply. I wouldn’t expect any M22s to restock
Awesome review. Just wondering, do you have any updates on the durability of the material? Thanks in advance
Not really. It’s still looks new after dragging it around.
Good timing!
😎
Surprised theres no evergoods in the mix for the EDC shootout. Would love to see what you think about the CHZ22 or even the CPL for a larger-side EDC.
I've done those videos already and these are all new designs. I love my EG bags!
@@JBOutside1 Awesome, I didn't know you did an EG EDC shootout. I’ll have to find that vid. Would the MPL22 be a contender in this newest group?
Mmmm, not really because the others all have a good laptop area.@@mykeljewell
Super review! You almost talked me into a top loader. Too bad it's a smidge too long for my torso. Amazing how 1/2 an inch up or down makes a difference...me need down: 18.5" ...speaking of nothing (and I might have already asked. Senile), did you say yea or nay to the Dyneema? So much controversy about the zippers...Cheers.
I like the original GRXC1 Dyneema and haven't dabbled in any of the latest builds so I can't speak to it. People complain about the rain flap and my way of dealing with that is to fold it half and it works just fine.
Nice video JB!
Thanks Eric!!
Which do you prefer more after having it for a little bit. Bullet 18 DC, or M23? I'm interested in both.
So different. Kinda depends on how you plan to use it. I’m on my second week using the M23 ands solid for sure.
I pulled the trigger on one after seeing this video. Love the patch on the M23, happen to have a link to it??
It’s a PVC reverse flag from GORUCK. I don’t think it’s currently available
@@JBOutside1 awesome, I’ll keep an eye out would e ever restock. Thanks, love the channel!
Hello, could you add a comparison between the m23 and a GR1 26L or a bullet 15 in your future reviews? I own both and curious to see the size difference. Living in the uk is difficult to get one and send it back. Thank you :)
Planning on doing another size comparison soon. I’ll add those.
Did the water bottle pocket have a drain hole? Something similar to the TAD Axiom S2. Thanks
Nope. No drains. Which is not idea. Especially since the interior material is just that stretchy stuff and not moisture resistant.
Great review! Would the full wire dopp fit in that front slide pocket?
Side pocket, no. Front pocket, yes.
Nice video, JB. Do you think the side access (to the main compartment) be used as a side access to a camera in the bag? E.g., a mirrorless camera with a smaller body. I'm debating between this and the Shimoda 20L Urban Explore camera bag.
Yes, that side access would be perfect for that. Of course it depends on what it's packed in inside the bag.
@@JBOutside1 Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes :D
Hi, Nice review thank you !
do you think that’s the stretch pockets on the inner compartments could fit a 15.5 inches laptop ?
Yes it does!
Waiting for a multicam go ruck again.
I know!
Your face expressions remind me of my grandma.
I like her already
Are they just completely moving away from the 1000d cordura? Seems like all the recent releases have been this 500d ripstop. I'm not sure about the durability of this material. Anyone have more insight?
Agree. That's all we've seen...mostly. Lately, but they haven't abandoned the 500D and 1000D designs. The GR3 is 1000D and 210D.
Hi. Would you consider rucking with this bag? Would a 20LB GoRuck plate fit in the 21L laptop compartment? Enjoying your videos. Thank you.
Yes, absolutely. Either style of GORUCK plate will work. The taller version will be more stable but if you plan to go with a Rucker someday I'd get the shorter style
Excellent. Thanks for the reply. As for the long pocket on the side, I'm thinking it will be a perfect place to store my Dyson hair straightening tool. Yes. A girlie thing. :)@@JBOutside1
I would guess so! haha
Recently I have washed my GR1 (26L), however the overall material is 1000D Cordura. So I was wondering, how to wash M23 once it becomes dirty since the material used is 420D Robic Nylon. Any advice?
Sorry I haven’t had to wash mine yet but I’d try hand washing first
What do you think of the 26l vs the 21l? I am debating on which one.
Yeah, great question and one I am seeing a lot of. Mostly comes down to your height mostly. The design of the bags lets them get over-packed so I'd guess that if you were concerned go with the 21L. Also depends on how you plan to use the bag.
Hope they make a tiger stripe M23
That would be cool
Best camo ever alongside m81 woodland@@JBOutside1
Awesome video as per usual! I had been waiting for the M23 to release, excited to try it out!
It’s a good one!
I said I wasn't going to, then 2 mins into this video paused it then went and bought the 26l.
Man, that was a powerful 2 minutes!
@@JBOutside1AND you swayed me from the CTB26!
@@johneroyale that’s a powerful sway, love me the CTB26 too.
So I ended up ordering the 21 and 26l, but the 26l came in today. Transferred my 26l GR2 contents into it and there's a ton of room left. I carry a North Face rain shell, a Goruck Indestructible Fleece pullover (both rolled), a Vanquest Dendrite fanny pack, a Vanquest organizer (boo boo kit), and a 38oz Tal water bottle. I roll the extra material down and cinch down the lid straps and it's good. I took off the sternum strap. I'm only 5'6 but the bag fits great. I'm not even going to unwrap the 21l when it comes.
I love the bag. I'm not a fan of rip-stop. I'm going to hold off and see if they come out with a special edition like with Carryology. Or perhaps a Dyneema edition. I also want to see what kind of upgrades SCARS can do. Needs more webbing to make it look more aggressive and tactical. You did point out a lot that I wish GoRuck would have left alone. I'm do like internal water bottle compartments. Especially if you aren't going to make it waterproof. For now I guess i'm going to wait. I was hoping that a new Bullet would come out with a laptop and a top storage compartments. Just can't get it all I guess.
I'm pretty confident we'll see some new materials and colors in the M23...as for the features? 🤷🏼♂️
Still rockin my axioms until somethin beats it.
The Axiom is a great one for sure. Which version?
@@JBOutside1 have both 18 and 24. Like the zipper designs over the pocket designs(newer). Most complaints about the bag is why i love it lol... "Water bottle takes internal space". Hiding the bottle while still accessible without opening the main compartment trumps the negative of taking internal space. "Smaller than advertised" my edc tends to be smaller. QAP like evergoods one but not as good but better than not having one. Front admin panel is way better any slip pocket or even evergoods vertical zip(work directly out of this panel). I think the look of the bag stays slim for 24L(my cpl24 epands out like a travel bag when im just trying to edc it ... 😅), (i like that the axiom holds firm shape and not bloat). Bottom zip i throw my keys there so i can swing bag into doors, office, mailbox etc(unlike new design of EG where i have to take the whole bag off and use key loop at the top... Very annoying). Or bags without it in general. Until all these features are beaten, i dont see me moving off it ever. What still shocks me is that this bag was released like 6 years ago.... IMHO, if they released this today, itd be best designed bag, like actually using a bag to date. To be so ahead of the time and fall off as a company is little strange and it sucks, maybe they went off too many directions with offerings 🤷🏻♂️.
Anyone have a discount codes? 😅
Sorry, I don't
black only, material downgrade. i like the bootle solution tho
I'd put real money on more colors and probably 500D coming soon (ripstop colors first I'd guess). As for the material, I'm still not decided yet. I am still in the honeymoon phase with all these robic bags and have like the experience thus far
I really like your content JB but not that you have be a Goruck advertisement tool. :(
I hear ya. While I do love the support from them (and the occasional early access) I do provide what I really think on the design. My last review at least in part influenced this design. They in no way tell me what to say in the videos. In fact, I received almost no information on this one except, here's the bag. So I had to break in down in my own way to present it to the masses. 100% all me in this video.