What is your favorite thing you saw from Electrify Expo Denver? I know I said an ebike 😅 but driving home with one of those campers would be a dream come true!!
The F-150 needs solar input for hybrid and all electric ⚡️ lightning please tell ford and Mach-e. Just plug some Solar in and go off grid with your truck 🛻. Please ask for 2kwh and 10kwh solar panels
My wife Tracie and I really enjoyed chatting with you Francie before the Expo. We were impressed with your Vinfast. The Expo was so fun but man it was sooo hot 🔥 too.
Definitely all electric, That's all we own in rural Nevada and never had an issue. Recently drove from Winnemucca to Austin Nevada to Las Vegas to San Diego to Sacramento, to Reno and back to Winnemucca with no issues. I used mostly superchargers with my Ford Lightning Platinum.
At 2:26, I see the Volvo EC40, EX40 and the EX30! I drive the 2022 Volvo C40 and was pleased to hear you guys awesome positive take on it. Never been to an electric car expo, but want to sometime! Thanks for pushing this adventure episode out Francie and Jordan! Great work as always 🔥👊🏽👏
Yay! My favorite EV pod-casters Francie and Jordan. I like the Poly camper. I have a couple of different style RV's and I like the idea of towable for efficiency. Looking at converting my old style E250 Class B RV to hybrid when the kit becomes available.
I really like my PHEV. I regularly do trips that are 600-800km (375 - 500 miles) and my PHEV can go, real world, 900km (560 miles) on a single 43L (9.5 gallon) tank of gas. I can fill up the day before and do my entire trip without needinf to think about anything but snacks on my route. Our family plan was for me to get a PHEV, then the spouse would get a PHEV, and then the last step I will switch to EV. We just finished step two so hopefully in abouut 2-3 years there will be an EV I would actually buy.
I visited the expo on Saturday, it was pretty awesome! Fortunately the heat held back a little bit, not reaching over 100f until around 4pm. I was hoping to meet some of you from Out of Spec, but I did at least get to briefly chat with Declan. Maybe next year if there's gonna be another expo? 😁 It was a bit interesting that Toyota was at the expo, but not GM.
LOVE it! Oh man, wish this Expo came to Chicago! Thanks for the great video guys. I think you found me my future camper trailer with the Polydrop!! When I get my R2 it will look great behind it!
Awesome, you guys! I'm sorry I missed seeing you there. I was there on Saturday and mostly talked with the custom retrofitters/converters, but also talked with the camping trailer folks.
Dream conversion: a Mid-late 70s MG Midget. Convertible. I share Jordan’s love of small cars. But the Midget was my dream car as a teen. And yes, I would do it for at least 75 miles of range in good weather.
Mid-late 70s MG Midget. Converted. I share Jordan’s love of small cars. But the Midget was my dream car as a teen. And yes, I would do it for at least 75 miles of range in good weather.
What a great video Francie and Jordan awesome job. You should visit Fully Charged Canada and do same video there. Keep up with great work and can't wait for Rivian to come to Europe ❤❤❤❤
We attended the San Francisco location last year which was actually in Alameda, and part of the EV driving course was on the old runway (Think mythbusters semi smash episode or airplane treadmill). You actually had the chance to open it up and go full send. If you can make it to this year's expo, definitely should go!
I’d love to convert a 66 Cadillac Fleetwood, my parents got me one in the mid70’s as my daily driver, so huge and cool can’t imagine it in electric drive!
Great video. Good overview. As I am 6’4” with a 6’2” son, we cannot comfortably fit in small cars. I own a Ford Mach-e (with 33,000 miles) and am very happy with the size. I would like a F150 or Silverado EV, but have problems parking those. As for conversions, I still have in mind to convert a 1965 to 1969 Chevy Corvair. That would be fantastic.
Nice work. BTW, we hope local highs will be less than 100F, just not last week, this week, or next. Range goes down a bit, but pre-cooling the cabin is priceless.
It's a pity you did not point out that Lexus and Toyota do not actually make the electric cars they sell. They are made by another company for them and get sold with the Japanese lead makers badges. Much like Jaguar do not make the I-pace themselves.
I own a Toyota RAV4 Prime. It gets 600+ miles of total range and 52 miles of EV only range. That EV range is more than enough for my work commute each day. With my Level 2 Chargepoint at home charges the prime in under 2.5 hours. The Level 1 EVSE that came with my Prime charges it in 10-12 hours. Francie, have you or Out of Spec ever done any segments on one the Elephants in the EV room? (IE Depreciation of EVs especially compared to other vehicles like gas, hybrid or PHEV) It appears that the Tesla Model Y is said to depreciate 39% over 5 years ($23,000). During that same time frame the Toyota RAV4 Prime is said to depreciate 22% over 5 years ($10,000). It appears that a Vinfast VF8 depreciates even more over 5 years. Economically speaking, some EVs might not be the smartest choice from a depreciation standpoint for some people if they have a budget they need to keep to.
Oh my God I hope you are a lucky girl and get your Rivian……. By the way, I hope to be a lucky boy someday soon as well, but for now it’s the 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL long range rear wheel drive for me Great stuff and thanks for the tour
Were there no demo drive cars there? At the Everything Electric/ Fully Charged Shows that is the biggest draw for people who don’t want go to a dealership and suffer the “hard sell” when they try out EVs. Only problem can be the long queues for some cars but I pitched up without an appointment at the Subaru stand and got a drive straight away - charging apart (and for me I don’t road trip so their system isn’t an issue) it’s not a bad car in European models and got to take it on an offroad track too.
All exhibiting manufacturers had vehicles to drive. Demo drives were held on local streets in the vicinity of the show, which is very industrial. So good to show off suspension on rough conditions, rail crossings, etc.
Many people can drive as an EV for daily commuting or errands, and take long trips through areas with poor charging infrastructure without range anxiety.
It's kind of disapponting that the 2025 Ioniq 6 doesn't seem to be getting the new battery feom the Ioniq 5n and new 5. Maybe 2026 if they get a 6n available too.
This car hasn't gotten a facelift yet. That won't happen until next year, before that Hyundai should show an alternative to the EV9 from the latest information before the end of this year.
I would love to convert my old 1990 Toyota Celica GT-S or my old '91 MR2 T-tops into an EV. MR2 would be even more dangerous to drive than with ICE. It'd be undriveable. I love it.
PHEV has all the worst features of ICE and EVs. Engine maintenance, gas stations, and battery with a high discharge cycle rate. Essentially you end up with a gas car.
@@rcpmac is that like saying stay tuned for what Toyota, Lexus, Honda, and Acura do in the next year or 2? I just want all manufacturers covered with the same lens...
Hey there! I mentioned it about Lucid 100% in this video and I mention it about Rivian all the time! Affordable EVs are few and far between and that is #lame!
Attended the Expo in Denver over the weekend and honestly, was disappointed. Most of the representatives at the car manufacturers tents were very uninformed and simply not aware of simple features like kWh battery sizes, knowledge of Level 2 and 3 charging, etc. I went there as my wife and I want to purchase an EV and thought we could really learn a lot and helpful in making a decision. Unfortunately we are on our own to complete the research.
Plug-in hybrid is the ultimate in stupid. Regular hybrids were good 15 years ago when batteries were super expensive, but now the are a much worse solution than a full-on EV. If all you care about is cost, hybrids are the worst due to the need to purchase and MAINTAIN two power trains. One of the advantages of EVs is lower maintenance cost, which is eliminated with a plug-in hybrid. If users don’t charge and drive the car as a traditional hybrid, then the efficiency is much worse compared to a traditional hybrid. Of course, the fuel cost is also much higher for a hybrid of any kind compared to an EV. In every way, a plug-in hybrid is worse than a full-on EV.
52 years of electric car history. Way to go BMW. Such a shame Beamers are such ugly cars, with that ugly "grill" design. Otherwise I'd seriously consider one. I admire them for their EV committment.
Dude. I love the video, but smooth out the camera. It was literally making me nauseated watching. And, many US people want big vehicles, but I want a cheaper EV sports car. The Polestar 6 is gorgeous, but I don't need 800 horsepower. Just 400 would be fine, even RWD only. I do need vented seats (TX).
Francie, you and Jordan are a great team! Even in HOT AIR 👉🏿🥵👈🏿(actual picture) you guys are ICE! Oops. I mean you guys are COOL! Also, your interview with BJ WAS immediately shared with our local Chevy Dealer AND with the Power Company’s very supportive “Alternative Energy” Exec. “Our ONLY SECURITY is our ability to CHANGE.” (John Lilly). . . FanBoy from The Land of Enchantment. ‘23 Bolt EV. 👊🫶🏿
What is your favorite thing you saw from Electrify Expo Denver? I know I said an ebike 😅 but driving home with one of those campers would be a dream come true!!
The F-150 needs solar input for hybrid and all electric ⚡️ lightning please tell ford and Mach-e. Just plug some Solar in and go off grid with your truck 🛻. Please ask for 2kwh and 10kwh solar panels
Also Ford Escape plug in solar
Over land ford transport electric with solar
They don’t have to put Solar on the roof Mach-e but the f-150 with flat roof is perfect for solar
You just set up your solar panels and charger 🔌 When you get home plus it would be dc to dc charging so it’s more efficient
Francie and Jordan make a great team!
y'all are a good team.
Francie and Jorden are great together. Really enjoyed the dialogue between you two. Cheers!
Great job guys! You’re knocking it out of the park.
My wife Tracie and I really enjoyed chatting with you Francie before the Expo. We were impressed with your Vinfast. The Expo was so fun but man it was sooo hot 🔥 too.
Definitely all electric, That's all we own in rural Nevada and never had an issue. Recently drove from Winnemucca to Austin Nevada to Las Vegas to San Diego to Sacramento, to Reno and back to Winnemucca with no issues. I used mostly superchargers with my Ford Lightning Platinum.
Thank you for the tour of the show! It was great!
At 2:26, I see the Volvo EC40, EX40 and the EX30! I drive the 2022 Volvo C40 and was pleased to hear you guys awesome positive take on it. Never been to an electric car expo, but want to sometime! Thanks for pushing this adventure episode out Francie and Jordan! Great work as always 🔥👊🏽👏
Lucid also has a pet mode by the way!
Excellent cars but unaffordable and that dark cloud hanging over it that it may go outta biz any day.
Yo!! Shout out to yall thanks for coming to town! 😂
Yay! My favorite EV pod-casters Francie and Jordan. I like the Poly camper. I have a couple of different style RV's and I like the idea of towable for efficiency. Looking at converting my old style E250 Class B RV to hybrid when the kit becomes available.
I really like my PHEV. I regularly do trips that are 600-800km (375 - 500 miles) and my PHEV can go, real world, 900km (560 miles) on a single 43L (9.5 gallon) tank of gas. I can fill up the day before and do my entire trip without needinf to think about anything but snacks on my route.
Our family plan was for me to get a PHEV, then the spouse would get a PHEV, and then the last step I will switch to EV. We just finished step two so hopefully in abouut 2-3 years there will be an EV I would actually buy.
600 km is a one stopper in an EV. You basically don’t lose any time in an EV And you don’t need to haul around two drive trains at all times.
Great to meet you both at the Expo!
love shows like this, ty
I visited the expo on Saturday, it was pretty awesome! Fortunately the heat held back a little bit, not reaching over 100f until around 4pm. I was hoping to meet some of you from Out of Spec, but I did at least get to briefly chat with Declan. Maybe next year if there's gonna be another expo? 😁
It was a bit interesting that Toyota was at the expo, but not GM.
Definitely a missed opportunity for GM!
this was exciting and i would of loved being there
Aww youz guyz are the best! Serious kudos for getting this tour done even in the nuclear heat and still being the best tour guides! ⚡
a ford excursion sized EV would be pretty awesome
LOVE it! Oh man, wish this Expo came to Chicago! Thanks for the great video guys. I think you found me my future camper trailer with the Polydrop!! When I get my R2 it will look great behind it!
Awesome, you guys!
I'm sorry I missed seeing you there.
I was there on Saturday and mostly talked with the custom retrofitters/converters, but also talked with the camping trailer folks.
Dream conversion: a Mid-late 70s MG Midget. Convertible. I share Jordan’s love of small cars. But the Midget was my dream car as a teen. And yes, I would do it for at least 75 miles of range in good weather.
I would LOVE to have attended this expo!
Outlier for sure but I absolutely loved my Subaru Legacy. Bring that back as electric please Subaru.
What about the adoption to NACS?
Mid-late 70s MG Midget. Converted. I share Jordan’s love of small cars. But the Midget was my dream car as a teen. And yes, I would do it for at least 75 miles of range in good weather.
Our kids ultra cool and cute Aunt Francie is a separated at birth twin in looks, voice mannerisms of Francie and named Francie too.
What a great video Francie and Jordan awesome job.
You should visit Fully Charged Canada and do same video there.
Keep up with great work and can't wait for Rivian to come to Europe ❤❤❤❤
We attended the San Francisco location last year which was actually in Alameda, and part of the EV driving course was on the old runway (Think mythbusters semi smash episode or airplane treadmill). You actually had the chance to open it up and go full send. If you can make it to this year's expo, definitely should go!
Thanks for letting me see this without having to brave the heatwave!
I've ridden and owned BMW motorcycles since 1976. I would love to test an electric BMW motorcycle!
I’d love to convert a 66 Cadillac Fleetwood, my parents got me one in the mid70’s as my daily driver, so huge and cool can’t imagine it in electric drive!
Hopefully they add the Midwest to their stops.
The heat and my 50min drive kept me away from the expo this year, sadly. Thanks for the walkthrough!
Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
Niiiiice!!!!!!
Off topic: @heyfrancie you look great. Your Outfit is super cute! 😻
Great video. Good overview. As I am 6’4” with a 6’2” son, we cannot comfortably fit in small cars. I own a Ford Mach-e (with 33,000 miles) and am very happy with the size. I would like a F150 or Silverado EV, but have problems parking those. As for conversions, I still have in mind to convert a 1965 to 1969 Chevy Corvair. That would be fantastic.
I like small cars that are affordable for everyday people.
That was fun to see a Cyber Grey Ioniq 5 identical to mine.
An E-Mondeo estate would be nice.
I would love a converted classic Mustang.
IIRC, OOS Renew did a video on that Red Mustang.
Nice work. BTW, we hope local highs will be less than 100F, just not last week, this week, or next. Range goes down a bit, but pre-cooling the cabin is priceless.
It's a pity you did not point out that Lexus and Toyota do not actually make the electric cars they sell. They are made by another company for them and get sold with the Japanese lead makers badges. Much like Jaguar do not make the I-pace themselves.
Should have come by and said hi!
only if it wasn’t 100 degrees out I would have gone
The new Prius would have been fantastic if it were a full EV.
No GM??
I own a Toyota RAV4 Prime. It gets 600+ miles of total range and 52 miles of EV only range. That EV range is more than enough for my work commute each day. With my Level 2 Chargepoint at home charges the prime in under 2.5 hours. The Level 1 EVSE that came with my Prime charges it in 10-12 hours.
Francie, have you or Out of Spec ever done any segments on one the Elephants in the EV room? (IE Depreciation of EVs especially compared to other vehicles like gas, hybrid or PHEV) It appears that the Tesla Model Y is said to depreciate 39% over 5 years ($23,000). During that same time frame the Toyota RAV4 Prime is said to depreciate 22% over 5 years ($10,000). It appears that a Vinfast VF8 depreciates even more over 5 years. Economically speaking, some EVs might not be the smartest choice from a depreciation standpoint for some people if they have a budget they need to keep to.
Oh my God I hope you are a lucky girl and get your Rivian…….
By the way, I hope to be a lucky boy someday soon as well, but for now it’s the 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 SEL long range rear wheel drive for me
Great stuff and thanks for the tour
What happened to GM?
We need electrocon or eeveecon
I love my ev Tesla Model 3 but I am pining for a rivian r2
Were there no demo drive cars there? At the Everything Electric/ Fully Charged Shows that is the biggest draw for people who don’t want go to a dealership and suffer the “hard sell” when they try out EVs. Only problem can be the long queues for some cars but I pitched up without an appointment at the Subaru stand and got a drive straight away - charging apart (and for me I don’t road trip so their system isn’t an issue) it’s not a bad car in European models and got to take it on an offroad track too.
All exhibiting manufacturers had vehicles to drive. Demo drives were held on local streets in the vicinity of the show, which is very industrial. So good to show off suspension on rough conditions, rail crossings, etc.
The conversions are very cool as J pointed out around the 33:05 mark. Some more details on that in this vid: czcams.com/video/rZPA7KieqN4/video.html
What is the point of a plug in hybrid? Either go electric or stay gas.
I don’t want a Prius. I’ve had two of them. Plus, the Prius is $40,000.
If you guys need an Out of Spec Motorcycling guy, hit me up.
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why does any worry about colors of any car get wraps lol
No Nissan or GM ?
PHEV - worst of ICE and BEV. Just get a BEV or a high MPG ICE car. Why combine the worst of both into one car?
Many people can drive as an EV for daily commuting or errands, and take long trips through areas with poor charging infrastructure without range anxiety.
At this event did Ford share any insight about Lincoln EV's?
No mention, unfortunately. I'm awaiting EV Lincoln options as well!
It's kind of disapponting that the 2025 Ioniq 6 doesn't seem to be getting the new battery feom the Ioniq 5n and new 5. Maybe 2026 if they get a 6n available too.
This car hasn't gotten a facelift yet. That won't happen until next year, before that Hyundai should show an alternative to the EV9 from the latest information before the end of this year.
Nissan?
I would love to convert my old 1990 Toyota Celica GT-S or my old '91 MR2 T-tops into an EV. MR2 would be even more dangerous to drive than with ICE. It'd be undriveable. I love it.
All electric all the way, even for your only car. Plug-in hybrids haul around a gas engine & fuel tank you’ll never need. Skip the training wheels!
so walk right by the e bikes and talk about them but dont show the booths? ok
PHEV has all the worst features of ICE and EVs. Engine maintenance, gas stations, and battery with a high discharge cycle rate. Essentially you end up with a gas car.
I don't see an electric plane there.
EAA Airventure in Oshkosh has had more and more in recent years.
🤔🤔No commentary about Lucid or Rivian not having affordable vehicles? Really🤔🤔
Stay tuned for the next Rivian models in about a year. R2 and R3. Both under $45k
@@rcpmac is that like saying stay tuned for what Toyota, Lexus, Honda, and Acura do in the next year or 2? I just want all manufacturers covered with the same lens...
Hey there! I mentioned it about Lucid 100% in this video and I mention it about Rivian all the time! Affordable EVs are few and far between and that is #lame!
The first two manufactures shown are all Chinese EVs with Toyota and Polestar logo's. Honda and BMW as well.Just buy a Tesla !
Attended the Expo in Denver over the weekend and honestly, was disappointed. Most of the representatives at the car manufacturers tents were very uninformed and simply not aware of simple features like kWh battery sizes, knowledge of Level 2 and 3 charging, etc. I went there as my wife and I want to purchase an EV and thought we could really learn a lot and helpful in making a decision. Unfortunately we are on our own to complete the research.
Plug-in hybrid is the ultimate in stupid. Regular hybrids were good 15 years ago when batteries were super expensive, but now the are a much worse solution than a full-on EV. If all you care about is cost, hybrids are the worst due to the need to purchase and MAINTAIN two power trains. One of the advantages of EVs is lower maintenance cost, which is eliminated with a plug-in hybrid. If users don’t charge and drive the car as a traditional hybrid, then the efficiency is much worse compared to a traditional hybrid. Of course, the fuel cost is also much higher for a hybrid of any kind compared to an EV. In every way, a plug-in hybrid is worse than a full-on EV.
52 years of electric car history. Way to go BMW. Such a shame Beamers are such ugly cars, with that ugly "grill" design. Otherwise I'd seriously consider one. I admire them for their EV committment.
Pet mode is not a good idea. Unless of course it can let your pet out if the car catches fire.
Dude. I love the video, but smooth out the camera. It was literally making me nauseated watching.
And, many US people want big vehicles, but I want a cheaper EV sports car. The Polestar 6 is gorgeous, but I don't need 800 horsepower. Just 400 would be fine, even RWD only. I do need vented seats (TX).
Francie, you and Jordan are a great team! Even in HOT AIR 👉🏿🥵👈🏿(actual picture) you guys are ICE! Oops. I mean you guys are COOL! Also, your interview with BJ WAS immediately shared with our local Chevy Dealer AND with the Power Company’s very supportive “Alternative Energy” Exec. “Our ONLY SECURITY is our ability to CHANGE.” (John Lilly). . . FanBoy from The Land of Enchantment. ‘23 Bolt EV. 👊🫶🏿