Kiev - The Lone Wolf Returns
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- čas přidán 16. 03. 2017
- In my opinion the absolute best thing to come out of the RU DD split is the new Kiev. Fast, lethal and above all a lot of fun to play, it's a real treat for people who went down the Russian DD lines in hope of finding fast gunboats. As usual you can find my recommended build at the end.
- Hry
2 reminders! First, today is the last day of my Okhotnik giveaway contest! flamu10k.hscampaigns.com/
Second, my discord has already amassed well over 2000 members, you are all more than welcome to join us in talking about boats, random stuff and finding divisions in your region! discord.gg/fQTKaMw Make sure you check the #welcome channel first!
maybe I am the unlucky one, but I get like 80% of my Kiev and Ognevoi games these days against tier 9 and 10. I am rarely top tier ...
Oh what's your take on IFHE on the RU DDs ? tier 8 and up, it should help with damage as much less shells shatter without doing nothing. Yes the fire chance is smaller, but it should compensate with more normal HE damage being done to targets.
Flamu What do you think of the kiev in T8 Ranked ??????
Hey Flamu, I've been using quite a different build to this. With CE you can stealth fire at 13km, stealth torp (great for late game) and can get your detection down to 7.1km. I strongly recommend you give it a go ;)
with the changes to stealth nerf, it will be in an amazing spotm at least what i think.
will you make a video showing top 5 replays? :)
Watching this reminds me of your first WoWs videos where you went around in a Kiev at T7 and shitting on everything that moves. A welcome return to where it first started.
I've been playing the old Kiev, the old old Kiev and now the new Kiev non-stop for a year now. They are very enjoyable and really powerful. The new tier 8 Kiev is really good, especially for those players who perservered with the nerfed tier 7 Kiev. It feels great, it handles great, the guns are amazing, your HE is annoying to BBs, your AP can wreck broadside cruisers before they realize it AND now you have usable 8km torps for that one moment where you may need to torp something that has cornered you.
A really good ship.
Having said that, this is an 100% gunboat and plays like that, so expect teammates who dont't 'get' its quirks to whine about you not contesting caps at the start of the match, keeping your distance instead of closing in and so on. You get used to it after a while. ;)
Thanks for all your help.....
Thanks a ton man, my kiev build was lacking on some points, but i've still been successful with a similar build. You helped clarify some issues I seemed to be having
Great game and explanation on how you should play with the Kiev. Thanks Flamu!
Theese videos gave me so much already. I took so many advises and tricks which helped me improve in the game. I am not smart enough to invent them myself but Flamu is so TY Flamu! Commentary is very enertaining as well in different way than Jingleses for example. I am just addicted for Jingles loughing at every citadel and torpedo hit.
hey flamu just started watching your vids, keep up the good work!
That Shiratsuyu got no XP since you chased away all his targets and he's too slow to catch up :)
Another great video on the Kiev. I have it now, along with the Ognevoi. I love the Kiev, and already have 4 times the XP that i have on the Ognevoi. I was trying to decide on a T9 DD and was unsure whether to get the Udaloi or the Tashkent? I think I've decided on the new Tashkent, with the heal you mentioned here. I want the Kebab eventually anyway. I'm not a very good DD player (yet) but have been trying to get better with your excellent advice. Thanks!
Hyena, eh?
3 man Kiev platoon video; MAKE IT SO! :D
I'd love to see the kind of chaos you and two of your pals could sow in random battles in a Kiev platoon!
flamu:
what can i do with my russian dd´s when dive bombers are atacking me?
left right left right is not an option because this ships dont have a good quick turning radius.
slowing down and accelerate does also not help me dodging dive bombers,also enabling engine boost does not help.
and the AA on leningrad is only a tier 1-2 level.
and with only 3 smokes i dont want to smoke up every time dive bombers are atacking me.
so what can i do to dodge dive bombers?
what tactics you use?
thanks
Pray to RNGesus that they miss and move on.
You make it look easy Flamu. How to be you man? :)
Having had to grind through the Tashkent to get to the Uda, getting the Uda, enjoying the Uda, imagine my chagrin when I had to grind through the Tash again to get to the Khaba.
0.6.7.1 No longer Citadel. I don't know if you can see my reply. But I found out after 0.6.7.1, Russian DD (Gnevny & Kiev) AP no longer can citadel cruisers. The patch update notice only says parameter change, nothing detailed. Do you have the same feel or I am just bad? Thanks. I learnt a lot from you video.
Hi Flamu, thx for the vid! U had one Gneisenau Game on RU Server yesterday which i think was a prime example of how to secure the win even if you are facing multiple enemies and your own hp-pool is very low. Maybe it is a good lesson for your community and worth another vid?
The New Udaloi... ITs like the Old one but impruved !!! With better consilment and faster and better Torps !!🤗🤗
Flamu make a video With This one pz..👍🏻
Concealment or not concealment, that is the question !
:-)
Together with the one from R9, I ended up with 3 engine boost mod. One for akizuki, one for khab, and maybe one for Kiev once Im done with Grozovoi
what do you think of installing the speed boost module in Leningrad?
when sailing kiev, i prefer to chase other dds than kite them because, four guns in front will wreck enemy's steering gears, engine, torpedo tubes and i have only two in the back, furthermore, it's easier to steer the boat when chasing because you're always looking ahead
What type of super container do the special spood beast come in? I would think Consumables or Try your Luck?
Thomas Bernecky try luck for supercontainers
you should make a guide video on how to play Russian DDs, American DD and so on
I dont understand I am at rank 3 and I do not have the engine boost modification for my Kiev? Is this not available on the NA servers? It says it was issued to me, but there is no option to apply it to my Kiev...;(
Einstein OneSixty go to ur moduals u will see a small green + sign it's there .
Problem with Russian DDs is players often underestimate their speed and don't lead enough. Also they are rare, you see more IJN and US DDs which go 37-40 and then you meet Russian DD which goes 45 and you mislead you shoots. :)
"1k short"
nah, 106 damage short.
I know the feeling, i once was @ 59986 fire / flooding damage at the end of a battle, i was so mad :'D
Quick question, how is the Tashkent improved from last time?
Destroyerman Fernandez It now has a maximum hp pool of 22750 (with SE), has access to the tier 9 module slots, has 15.2 km range with AFT, and has access to a heal, that can give you a hp pool of up to ~38,000 hp. As long as you don't forget that you aren't able to compete with other DD's in stealth, its quite fun. My only bad experiences with it were when I tried to contest caps at the start of games, you definitely struggle at that, especially if you are using the heal in lieu of smoke.
they gave her a heal consumable...
I still get hit quite easily in Tashkent, probably because I play too close.. Yet again, sometimes you got MMed with 3 RU DD on your team and 2 US DD 1 IJN DD on the enemy, which is sucks. WG need to differentiate RU DD and US DD in matchmaking
Thanks for telling me...honestly i struggled with the Tashkent before, especially in contesting caps, doubly so when no other DD wants to cap and you have to do it cause no one else will.
nothing more to add to this. i love my tashkent at t9
Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
qq - just got Teamkilled by "The legend begins" from the OM Clan (I have the video)... after he killed me for no reason other than I attacked an enamy player who was also OM Clan but on the other team... he then LOL'ed me and asked "wats up" at the end of the game he and his mate reported me.... so I was TK and then reported... nice! ty OM clan and thank you The legend begins
Yea well I got to rank 3 and I did not get the engine boost mod. Was this only for EU gamers or something?
Ffs, 10 minutes in and then i realised it's not a Cruiser but DD :))))
monster as tier 7 now even more.....
Khrosho
Jackal, hyaena are pack hunter/scavengers you're running solo.
So this ship can almost outrun sims 9k torps. lol
and Khaba?
what the heck is a railgun cruiser;-))
Rather old I know but heal rather than smoke in the current meta?
Smoke is if you’re not wanting to be selfish and you’re using SE. Otherwise yes heal would be better for the exact reason Flamu has said. You shouldn’t be taking too many hits anyway unless you’ve decided to fight anti DD ships for the whole match at which point it probably won’t matter anyway.
14:30 you were just 106 hp short
Flamu, Flamu! You know that every time Wg change the skill tree there are some absolutely shitty skilss, right? How do you think if we have a skill tree system with leveling, for example, for BoS, they could have -5% effect each time you level up the skill and max at level 3, so we don't have to wait 3 captain level before receiving the full effect of the skill, we can have a progression everytime the captain level, the problem with 4x3 build you are using is that the last two level 3 skill is so difficult to get, if you don't ahve prem account and don't play everyday. in this case it will open up many doors to different build since some ppl would think -10% is enough or 5% reload is good enough instead of the 10% reload, or +10% AFT rather than the 20%.
Why do they alwats buff russian ships that already very good and not inj or german dd,s.......
IJN DD's are torpedo boats with great concealment. What do you want more? They are meant to be played very differently from Soviet DD's. Its kinda stupid to complain about any other DD's except about maybe the German ones...
IJN DD's torpedos have bigger detection ranges than all the other nations, whilst the ships are worse in every other significant aspect as well.
IJN destroyers are pretty much useless now. Their torpedoes are easily spotted and avoided, so their primary role as a torpedo boat is extremely limited, especially with all the aircraft and hydro acoustic search available at higher tiers. That's not even counting their vast inferiority in a gunfight to every other destroyer.
Pfft. IJN destroyers still have their great camo rating and they are great for capping & spotting. IJN & USN DD's are invaluable in competitive play. Also not even to mention that Shima can send 15 torps up to 20km and when used wisely with RPF it can bring some devastating results. It is extremely hard for a BB to doge such a volley of torps no matter how u put it. IJN top tier DD's kill with their sheer amount of torp volleys. Their guns are also decent, but people just do not use them because they would be just spotted. IJN has also such gunboat DD's like Akisuki (iirc).
CloneD Anon IJN destroyers can no longer function effectively as torpedo boats because of how ridiculously easy it is for their torpedoes to be spotted. the shimakaze's 20km torps have a 2.5 I'm detection range for example. it doesn't matter how many torpedoes you can launch if the enemy sees them coming from far enough away that they can dodge every one of them.
the Japanese tech tree does have some passable gunboats now, but they sacrifice much of their already only slightly above average torpedo armerment for guns that still struggle to allow them to hold their own in a gun fight.
their stealth is undeniably still a huge asset, but most players agree that Japanese destroyers are generally inferior to destroyers of other nations after the series of nerfs they went through. they are overspecialized in a game where versitility usually wins out.
How come you didn't smoke the Tirpitz at 47 seconds in when he asked you? You've pointed out many times that dd's using smokes for themselves when another ship could use it also is selfish. Maybe the Tirpitz would have survived if you had smoked him. No saying you are a selfish player, just that you said many times that did players are selfish with their smokes.
Didn't even notice it. I don't read chat at all on the Russian server since it's 99.9% cyrillic letters. Also I have no idea why a full HP tirpitz would need a smoke in that position.. ?
Flamu Fair enough, didn't know it was on RU.
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The " hello hello" at beginning always sounds weird and embarrassing