Why I DON'T Like Esperanto
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I am a hyperpolyglot gigachad alpha male who is so attractive. I speak so many languages that it isn't even fathomable by the average monolingual beta. If you are a monolingual beta, you should be looking forward to my book.
This is my honest take on Esperanto. My opinion is really solid. I am a stable genius.
I think the international language of the world should be welsh, it has incredibly easy pronunciation, and is already widely spoken by over 100 people!
Latin is superior
As a Welsh person I absolutely agree. For some people like me in South Wales barely speak the language or more commonly not at all. What fools they are. Welsh is the most useful and powerful language in the world.
wel, rydw in siariad i bach cymraeg, ond fy saesneg yn wych.
Nope. No no no no no. Language Simp will never make a video about Welsh (or even any Celtic language for that matter).
@@archiepeters43812 nerdd 🤓
"English has simple grammar and phonology rules"
So brave of you to say this Mr Simp
*American
@@mjodyhsame
@@mjodyh Australian*
And no exceptions
Grammar is fairly easy. Orthography and pronunciantion is a pain in the butt.
Fun fact: Esperanto is officially called "世界语" (Shìjièyǔ) in China, meaning "World Language"
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funner even fact: China government still subsidize the Esperanto teaching and learning from the Mao days in which there really believes speak it will be the future.
@@psittakosfei2688your not Chinese, am l right?
Of course I am, and very soon, everybody will be as well.@@stephen3143141
Then what's Volapük called?
I had no real problems learning Esperanto as a first foreign language. It didnt take long and gave me a great basis for other languages. Instead of going through trying to understand new concepts, I could just spend a little time learning Esperanto and go "Oh, this concept in this language is like this in Esperanto". I've gotten way more out of Esperanto than French or Spanish. It just depends what you do.
Somewhat agree. I actually found it easier to learn Spanish in my second language French, rather than my first language, English, because the word order of Spanish and French is amazingly similar. So, it's easy to think in Spanish using French. I think you would have been better off learning one Romance language well, then learning the subsequent romance languages off your first one.
It didn't surprise me that on CZcams there are actually instructors in French teaching Spanish and vice versa!
I've heard this before, and I would learn it if there were lots of other Esperanto speakers around, but there aren't (at least, not where I live).
makes sense
@@jfppp1 where do you live?
@@AyskaLyn Rural Ohio in the USA. The nearest big city (Columbus) is an hour away.
For the world language I suggest Army Slavic. Army Slavic is a language created by the Austro - Hungarian Empire to make communication between the different Slavic people within the Army easier. It consists of about 80 words that are almost exclusively useful for pre WW2 Warfare, which is the simplicity a world language needs.
Picking a language that is mostly used for warfare doesn't seem like that great of an idea, but I guess we already picked American English for that one. 😂
Aren't a lot of those 80 words for military stuff though?
@@that_orange_hat Yes which is the simplicity a world language needs.
Takes 'war is the language of the universe' to a new extreme
@@Ninjaeule97 I don't see the problem. War is the only thing we have in common as humanity.
As a random Russian in Siberia I feel obliged to say that I am perfectly fine with the Italian pronunciation.
As a random north Korean i agree
I am also Russian. I love Italian.. it's my favorite language 💗🇮🇹
Bravo
@@sicilia7070 r u a girl?
@@alekseiloboda2553 yes
This video is the only reason i am learning Esperanto
bonvenon al nia kulto samideano
@@theinternationallanguagees9213 danke!
Great!
For real
Ye, couldn't agree more. Tre vera.
As a Russian speaker I would like to say that Russian and Italian languages (and also Portuguese) have similar system of sounds, so for us it's much easier to pronounce than English, for example. And vice versa.
But Italian doesn't have the vowel reduction system as in Russian
@@tobyalder42true, but the sound qualities are the most important thing. Russian doesn't have a distinction between i, like in ship, and e like in sheep, for example, so we never sound natural when saying these two words. And th and s sounds in one word still appear in my nightmares, even though for a russian I'm a f-ing 😱EENOSTRANYETS😱 with my ~B2. Or maybe it's B1. I once scored C1-C2 on an online test😂, but that was definitely bullsh*t.
agreed!
@@ldmtag Actually, Russian does have that distinction, many speakers just don't realise it. Russian "и" is pronounced differently in stressed and unstressed positions, according to the IPA (which may not be fully accurate, though) the sounds are like in English, "i" and "ɪ". A Russian speaker would pronounce, for example, English "benign" more or less correctly, but he would pronounce incorrectly Italian "benigno"
@@tobyalder42 yes, that's correct. But most of the unstressed Иs are the same, and most of the stressed Иs are the same as well. Doesnt help with ship/sheed distinction.
The international language should be Finnish. No-one speaks it as a first language and it's hard enough to learn that anyone who can speak it should be worth talking to.
suostua
"No-one speaks it as a first language" joke, yes?
Nobody speaks standard Finnish, that's a language you learn in school. The home dialects of Finnish are very different to the standard language.
This reminds me of Star Wreck.
Potkita nuo paskesaiat pois tasta galaksista
@@notsia💀💀
Cantonese should be the global lingua franca because everyone deserves a chance to shock natives
You kidding right??
@@--elpously9697no, everyone deserves the opportunity to shock natives
馬仔，不如整碗雲吞面過你食？
@@godofallpotatoes1614
OK you have the choice to speak it
But you can't force us to do the same
Yup bro hai yaa!!
This is what I've done with Esperanto:
- Traveled and was hosted by Esperanto speakers in different countries;
- I hosted Esperanto backpackers from different nationalities in my house and we practiced other languages;
- Been to Esperanto meetings in my town, watched cultural lectures with people from other countries, had some nice exchange with people;
- Been to an international congress with hundreds of people from all continents;
- We spent one week at a hotel with all those people, full immersion, music, cultural events, crazy parties, night clubs, restaurants... everything in Esperanto.
- In the congress, I've seen all sorts of weird people: spiritualists, atheists, gays, vegans, Buddhists, old wise men that look like beggars, Linux users... Esperanto attracts such weirdos! One thing is sure: you won't get bored.
- One night at 3 in the morning we were with a group of Esperantists on the beach "moon bathing"... all naked!
The atmosphere was like in this video: czcams.com/video/H_OYn6PZKpw/video.html
Apart from that, yeah, I'd say learning Esperanto is almost totally useless. If you want a language for your career, studies, for sitting down and wait speakers to walk by... Esperanto is a no. However, you could learn it just as mental gymnastics, like people play chess, knit, spend hundreds of hours on social media and play video games... so why not Esperanto? You need to be some sort of adventurer, backpacker and have a certain degree of detachment to enjoy Esperanto to the fullest.
At the congress, I bought this book "Ili vivis sur la tero" (They lived on Earth - eight years of migration around our planet). It's the amazing story of a couple who circled the planet speaking Esperanto and meeting Esperanto people. They say: When all your belongings for eight years fit in a backpack, you realize that the joy of life is not about what you have, but really about what you are.
So yeah, you have to be a bit crazy to study and enjoy Esperanto and its philosophy.
Some correct information:
- You will find Esperanto groups perhaps in all major cities around the world, much more than for most natural languages with millions of speakers.
- Esperanto is not among the most spoken languages, but it’s definitely among the most studied languages. I’ve conduced some polls in international forums, it ranked among the top 10. We can confirm that with Duolingo, there were times when Esperanto learners were more than a million, more than most of their courses.
- It’s actually against the goal of Esperanto to be the language of a specific place.
- Esperanto looks European on the surface, but it shares similarities with Oriental languages in the structure, as pointed out by linguist Claude Piron.
- China is one of the world’s greatest supporters of Esperanto. Even the official webpage of the Chinese government has an Esperanto version.
- Its rich vocabulary allows it to be used in Science and the most refined Literature. An international language must be able to share world knowledge. But that still makes it easier than natural languages - making new words and concepts is like playing with Lego.
- English hasn’t become international because of its culture, or because of its intrinsic linguistic properties. It has become international for one chief reason: political and military power. (David Crystal, author of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language).
Saluton! Mi eklernis Esperanton kaj mi estas komencanto. Mi ŝatus renkonti novajn homojn por praktiki Esperanton... Ĉu vi povus helpi min? Mi konas neniun, kiu parolas Esperanton.
You can get the same wonderful experience with enough vodka ;-)
@@thiagooliveira1482People aren't really going to learn it
Linux users😂
@@thiagooliveira1482 Saluton! Kie vi loĝas? Se vi loĝas en granda urbo, verŝajne ekzistas Esperanto-klubo tie.
Interesting fact:
Since the time of Onisaburo Deguchi, the constructed language Esperanto has played a major role in the japanese Oomoto religion. Starting in 1924, the religion has published books and magazines in Esperanto and this continues today. It is said that they introduced Esperanto when they had contact with the Baháʼí Faith in 1921.
A famous practitioner of the Oomoto faith is Morihei Ueshiba, founder of the martial art Aikido.
fascinating, that's a religion I'd never heard of
@@andrewwitcombe-small3713 Same. Also; I expected Aikido to be much older (by, like, several centuries); but it’s actually about on par with Sambo, by the looks of it.
The problem with learning Esperanto is that you have to speak it with the kinds of people who learn Esperanto
Replace this with literally any other conlang I swear
💀💀💀
@@rowboat10I’d rather speak Klingon than Esperanto
And what's wrong with that? When you learn a natural language there's no guarantee that you can find a community. The only kind of people who learn Esperanto are those who want to join a friendly international space. It may not be useful but learning languages isn't just about "business" or "travel." But there is a service where esperanto speakers host follow esperantists for cheaper so that's something I guess.
@@flannelsone1159 I'd rather try to save a regional language rather than speak an invented language!!
Let's gather one person from each country in the world who don't speak any other languages than their native one to an inhabited island and let them live there until they develop the ultimate international language
It would just be English.
Because of how many countries speak English. They would just choose that one I think.
This has already been done before. It's called Viossa.
Yeah
الاقتراح اعجبني لكنهم سيختارون لغة محددة لتواصل مع بعضهم مثل الإنجليزية
Probably that experiment wouldn't result in one single international language, it would actually just form multiple groups of people who speak similar languages and these groups would form their own dialects.
You'd have the romance languages speakers forming a group of their own, slavic language speakers forming another group, scandinavians forming another, English and Arabic speakers would probably only interact with those who speak their own language, since many countries speak these ones, and those who speak languages that are "isolated" like the person from Hungary, the one from Finland and etc. would either have to learn another language during the experiment or they'd simply be lonely
I learnt Esperanto and discovered I could already read French, which I took up in turn. So, not a wasted venture. Also it has helped in part with my German and Greek. Also living in a new state I met a group by the Esperanto shirt a gentleman was wearing. This gave me an immediate group. Also.. great for sci fi lovers as you can understand obscure comments in Gattaca, Blade 3, Red Dwarf and so on. So for me it has been very positive and easy.
Lol I tried learning Esperanto and I quit for French in less than a month in
@@anti_islam639 Dank' al Esperanto
I'm curious, have you ever used Esperanto online?
@@benia1908 lernu
One feature I love about Esperanto is its agglutination. The book La Bona Lingvo shows how you can be very expressive in Esperanto. It has a lot of words but you can also express complex concepts with a smaller vocabulary. It makes the language able to express a lot of nuance and be more brief. An entire clause can become just one word thanks to affixes and grammar. You can use compound words easily. In other languages, you need to memorise thousands of words. In Esperanto, you need about a thousand and a handful of prefixes and suffixes to do the same.
Aren't agglutinative languages what people with coeliac disease are allergic to?
@@nsf001-3 Yes. That always reminded me of the coeliac disease 😅. I guess coeliac disease sufferers can only speak analytic languages, then.
*EDIT:* Also; I guess people, who are allergic to glue, as well.
which is something that languages such as Japanese and Turkish have. I know enough Japanese to get around but when words get long it can be confusing as to what is being said. For example a sentence that goes "Can I be forced to confess to that crime?" It's a difficult thing to both express and understand exactly in Japanese. For me anyway.
I love it!
German can be agglutinative, too. Perhaps not as much as Esperanto, or in the same way, but still...
My favorite long German word: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän." Means "Danube steamship company captain." My second favorite long German word: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajutenschlüssel." Means "Key to the Danube steamship company captain's cabin."
The perfect lingua franca would be a mix of the most final boss languages, Polish and Finnish with a little hint of a very niche language like Luxembourgish, topped with some Chinese grammar and Danish pronunciation. Just fantastic.
I like your idea, but the Chinese grammar is too straightforward.
I suggest Hungarian.
@@StrategySphere Make it tonal as well
Wouldn't you want a ligua franca to be easy to learn by everyone? This is just esperanto expect you made it hard for everyone.
@@Ninjaeule97 yes
Chinese grammar is simple, the wild horse is Russian
esperanto killed my family and forced me to complete the esperanto course on duolingo and have a 6 hour conversation in esperanto with 10 different people. overall i'd give it a 8/10.
You mean there are TWO of us in the world? I mean, what are the odds?
Gratulon !
Ni havu tiun konversacion denove 😁
Esperanto gets so much unnecessary hate. I think ppl should just have fun with the language. Even if it doesn’t ever achieve it’s goal purpose I think it’s still cool to learn and honestly I wish more people around my age spoke it. I feel like it would be so fun to be able to communicate with more people in Esperanto
If you want to help me learn it, I’ll happily speak it with you
@@multiespeciesfishies2811 What do you learn?
Ive never understood the resistance to learning it. People are willing to learn “useless” languages all the time like Pig Latin or gibberish to communicate but a actual structured language they want nothing to do with.
Add in the fact that its easy to learn and actually helps speed up learning other languages and I still don’t see why its hated.
@@captaindestruction9332 Esperanto is not useless.
@@fitzburg63 i don’t think they’re talking about Esperanto being useless
Fun Fact: Esperanto is in Minecraft
so is toki pona
toki pona li toki pi musi Manka.
As a Spanish speaker, I support calling Esperanto "Spanish 2" but only after we give it our always useful and supereasy to learn verb conjugations! Esperanto totally needs two imperfect subjunctive forms!
Both are ugly. One because of how the sounds are put together, second because of how everything is put together (except for the abstract level maybe).
¿Por qué los llamas "español 2"?
@@alejo7625 no viste el video?
To me it doesn’t sound like Spanish. It sounds more italian
@@5thkiechannel for me, it sounds Romanian.
Challennge for Language Simp:
Create your own Language with these rules
-Grammar should be as simplistic as possible with no gender, conjugations, cases etc. (Like chinese)
-Alphabet should be pictures so it looks cool and not American (Like Korean)
-No homophones or homonyms allowed
-No synonyms allowed
-The alphabet will probably be bigger than korean in order to have more sounds and therefore easier not to create homonyms
-Words are created with the given alphabet by the community where it is tracked which words already exist and which sounds are already taken
-Buy a huge plot of land somewhere
-Only people who pass a standardised language test in made up language is allowed to live there
-Then the language will evolve from there
toki pona is pretty close with it's 120 sitelen pona (its """alphabet"""), has no cases, and all synonyms are the same word. it also has a community where people develop the language and add new words and reanalyse old words and just speak the language.
@@notwithouttext Yeah, Toki Pona is already a really admirable effort towards this goal.
@@notwithouttext Toki Pona looks great for expressing the bare essentials
@@notwithouttext Its grammar still isn't as simple as it could be, and it is VERY ambiguous. Toki Pona is better than Esperanto but still far from functional.
@@maxkho00 it's not meant to be as simple as possible, but just comfortably simple to use alongside another language.
"esperando" means "I am waiting" in Spanish --- so I guess most innocent people will associate it with that
I'm learning Esperanto so when authorities question me or take me to court, they won't have an official translator and have to dismiss the cases
As an Esperantophile I completely agree with your opinion, Esperanto has ruined my life. Esperanto took away my wife, my children and most importantly, my will to learn new languages.
Ĉu vere? Mi ankoraŭ lernas lingvojn. Ili ĉiuj ŝajnas malpli bonaj, tro komplikaj, tro malfacilaj, kaj eĉ malbelaj kompare al E-o, sed malgraŭ tio, mi daŭre ĝuas lerni ilin.
@@frechjobone diris
Learn braille then
@@Beau_Rivage What I said was:
¿En serio? Yo todavía aprendo idiomas. Comparado al Esperanto, parecen menos buenos, demasiado complicados, demasiado difíciles, e incluso feos, pero a pesar de eso, todavía disfruto aprenderlos.
Hope that's accommodating enough for you.
如果你还不懂我可以用中文说
The international languages should be English & Dutch, which are the prettiest and most refined languages with the most pretty and poetic words and also the easiest languages ever - Welsh is a pretty language as well, so it should be taught in school as one of the optional Celtic languages, so everyone should also learn at least one Celtic language and at least one Latin language!
Fun fact: after WW1, there were talks in the League of Nations about making Esperanto the lingua franca, but the French vetoed it to "protect the special status of the French language". So if you don't support Esperanto, you're literally no better than the French. Sorry, I don't make the rules. 🐸
Saluton kara, mi estas el Egiptujo kaj Esperanto estas sufiĉa bona kaj justa lingvo por ĉiuj. Mi povas kompreni la anglan sed mi ne ŝatas kaj kapablas paroli ĝin kiel Esperanto. La germana estis por mi falcila ol la angla. Ne ĉiuj homoj kapablas paroli la anglan bone kaj ne ĉiuj homoj povas atingi altan nivelon en la lingvoj kaj mi per Esperanto konaktis kun multaj homoj pli multe kompare dum mia lernado de aliaj lingvoj kaj Dankon. Kaj estas Ĉinaj Esperantistoj, kiuj bone scipovas la lingvon.
Saluton samideano 😜🖖
يا حبيبي، ان العربية حسنى من اي لغة. تستحق ان تكون اللغة العالمية.
@@erikdalna211 لغة جميلة صحيح ولكن عملية للاستخدام العالمي؟! ليس تماماً الاصوات ليست قياسية، القوانين ليست ثابتة، ونمط الكتابة مغاير تماماً للمعتاد في اغلب اللغات.... زِد على ذلك كونها وبصورة تقريبة لغة ذات طابع ديني على وجه العموم، يجب التفكير بموضوعية لمراعاة جميع جوانب اللغة المعتمدة من سهولة اللفظ إلى سهولة النحو والكتابة، الاسبرانتو حققت ذلك، الانجليزية لم تفعل ذلك من ناحية النطق والكتابة.
Mi ne nomus min samideano -- mi estas ja raŭmisto -- sed mi tute konsentas, ke Esperanto havas sian valoron kaj sian belecon, kaj Language Simp is just simply plain totally goddamn #$*! wrong with his misesperantism.
@@Asehpethank you for showing everyone how unhinged esperantists are.
The fact that Esperanto is spoken so little is the reason why it makes such a great candidate for a form of cipher. Furthermore, the gazillion root words in it make it almost impossible to decipher.
Gazillion root words??? It has far fewer root words than English or other national/ethnic languages. Esperanto builds its vocabulary using suffixes and prefixes plus word compounding.
@@aviadiloStill, English gets a pass because most of the colonised world uses the language as a secondary or a tertiary. I have yet to meet a person who even knows that Esperanto exists.
@@hahahhahahahufool2114 I've met plenty of people who've heard of Esperanto.
@@aviadiloWith all due respect, you're just hanging around a different crowd. Only around 2 million people know Esperanto, which is under 0.1% of all humans.
Chinese and English are both in the billions, with Japanese and Spanish and other world languages reaching the 100 millions.
@@hahahhahahahufool2114 How many millions of people do you communicate with? I don't care if over one billion people speak Chinese. I have little to do with China apart from buying Chinese products. And if I need to contact people in China, there are plenty of Chinese Esperantists I can contact. I've been studying Italian the last five years, have done several intensive courses in Italy. Far more people speak Spanish, but I love Italy, visit often and so Italian is far more useful to me than Spanish or Chinese or Indonesian. In fact, Esperanto is far more useful to me than those three languages. The number of speakers is irrevelant.
I like that you call English "American international language". Totally not biased :D
and he said "American alphabet" instead of "Latin alphabet"
This entire channel is ironic joke videos that shouldn't be taken seriously
Haha, the author keeps emphasizing the US.
its a joke
A complete Idiot! 100% "UScentric"
If you want to learn a useless Romance language, why not choose something badass like Latin?? They also have a community of nerds who will welcome you!
I guess because Latin is quite intimidating for monolingual betas with all the cases
Do you think ancient greek is useless too?
Guy's unaware of the existence of ancient books and poetry
@@jasonjohnson6938Latin is useless. Who cares that western cultures come out of Roman and Greek ones. Pfff.
@@jasonjohnson6938 what even are books? Like the things that movies are based on?
I stayed away from Esperanto and thought it was dumb for ages because of this video.
But recently I started learning it and it's great because it's sooooooo easy to learn. And there are quite a lot of people who speak it
Лэнгвич Симп, ты настоящий гигачад! Я не могу тебе указывать, что делать, но я хочу предложить тебе подумать о том, чтобы снять обзор на латынь (Latin). Это может быть коллаборация с Люком Раньери (Luke Ranieri), aka polyMATHY, aka Scorpio Martianus. Можно указать в достоинствах, что этот язык позволяет выучить одновременно испанский, португальский, сицилийский, румынский и каталанский. Ну и итальянский, может быть, тоже. Word inflections там почти как в русском, это тоже можно как-нибудь ржачно обыграть.
The international language should be Esperanto, it has super easy pronunciation, and is spoken by over 2 people!
It is spoken by over 2 people, 2 million is over 2
People: Create an artificial language to make it easier to communicate with each other
Also people: Continue to communicate in English and don’t use Esperanto
People who learned Esperanto:
👁👄👁
yes the 2 people who went out of their way to learn esperanto must be real disappointed rn
@@yoro33MV Doctor Esperanto: 👁👄👁
@@yoro33MVthe 2 million people who learned Esperanto are very affected
@@kiwenmanisuno Mi povas konfirmi.
I think Gibberish should be the international language of the world. It's so easy! It takes 2 week to become fluent. It only has 105 words and no verb conjugations, genders, or any of that bs! It uses elements from EVERY language! Here are some examples:
Hello: Hollo (Hola + Hello)
Goodbye: Zaidios (Zai Jain + Adios)
What's your name?: Comment de name? (Comment tu m'apple? + Como de llamas? + What's you're name?)
There is a ticketing system which is pretty popular, called "Zendesk" and it has a built in translation feature. When you click the translation button, the default is set to translate from Esperanto, regardless of the language of the ticket. Why? I have no idea. It's not even the first language on the list (since there are plenty that start with A). It must be a conspiracy to make the language seem more popular.
“It’s a language for everyone”.
No, it’s not
For people who speak Indo-European languages maybe
La lingua internazionale dovrebbe essere il napoletano
There are Japanese and Chinese esperanrists.
@@thexanada96 meglio il romano
@@amadeosendiulo2137 ofc the countries with 1 billion and 200 million people are going to have at least a few people who joined the esperanto cult, that proves nothing
I think Indonesian should be the global language. I've been studying it for a few months on luodingo and am already conversational. It was literally chosen so that it could be easily learned over the thousands of islands that it is spoken now. It has very little grammar and shares the same sentence structure as Chinese while having the Latin alphabet. If anything should be the global language it should be this. Selamet jalan!
Indonesian is pretty cool
I love that their plural is just repeating the word again XD
my friend, Indonesian is not a language, it's a standardized Malay language. It's like saying American is a language different from English.
@@blueshirt26 But American is indeed a different language
@@blueshirt26a language is a dialect with an army. Linguistically, Indonesian should not be considered a different language from Malay, but even still, it is in fact considered a different language by the people who speak it.
Indonesian just doesn’t sound good.
Living in Denmark I speak Danish - but I don´t whine about the fact that I can only use it together with other Danish speaking people and that it´s not understood and spoken all over the world. It works for me together with other Danish speaking people. The same with Esperanto. It works together with those who speak too. Yes, it didn´t become the second language to the whole world. But that´s how ideas work. U.N. was probably meant to bring peace and understanding too to the world. It didn´t, but it´s still there.
The video destroyed my desire to learn Esperanto, but your comment brought me back up again. I was feeling guilty about learning a language I LIKE wth
Danish is a cool language, I study it in the US.❤
@@NekoLobiin Never be afraid to learn something you genuinely enjoy or are passionate about. Honestly seeing this video and my defensive reaction to the frankly kind of silly attack on esperanto has motivated me to go through with learning Toki Pona. The language is just fascinating to me. Lojban is as well, but Toki Pona is considerably simpler so probably gonna start with that lol
A fault finder would find fault in paradise. There are two types of people in this world: those who build and those who tear down. Be careful of empty people who have nothing to offer the world, but who spend their time trying to destroy what others have built.
Just face it bro Esperanto is too Eurocentric to be the global lingua franca
When I was very young I wanted to learn Esperanto because I read a children's book about languages that left me with the impression that Esperanto was the language of the future.
How many Esperanto activists begged you not to make this video?
I learned English as my second language young.
But I gave up on learning esperanto the moment I realized how different it is from what I know and how little people speak it.
Same as me, I found about it in a children's book about communication, and fell in love with the idea.
Took me many years, but finally got to learning it, and I thank my inner child for keeping that memory alive for so long, despite all the people who tried to disuade me.
@@frechjo The children's book from which I found out about Esperanto was called "The Language Book" by Franklin Folsom. I also learned about the Code Talkers from reading that book.
@@tmhc72_gtg22c Oh, cool, you even remember the name :)
I can't remember what my book was called (something in Spanish), but it was about communication in general (not languages specifically).
It's amazing how those little things can stay with us forever! Lucky for us, our parents cared about and were able to widen our worlds like that.
Probably all five of them
I like how the phonology is purported to be super easy and intuitive to use, yet the most spoken language that contains all phonemes Esperanto contains is Polish, which coincidentally happens to be Zamenhof's native language.
His native languages were Idish and Russian. I don't why he said he was Polish when he was a Jew from Russian Empire
@@mearbyeHe lived in Warsaw, and other places in Poland his whole life.
@@szlanty He lived in Russia his entire life and spoke Russian
Polish lacks Esperanto's /x-h/ distinction and I don't think Zamenhof actually spoke Polish as a first language, he spoke Yiddish and Russian
@@that_orange_hat At the time it was created Polish still distinguished /x/ from /h/.
None of the bad things you say about Esperanto can even remotely compare
to the subtle yet deep pleasure of participating in a Internacia Kongreso de Esperanto...
I'm a total Raŭmisto: I think Esperanto exists, has a culture, a cool community of Esperantists, and via the pasporta servo opens the doors to traveling to other countries at a reasonable price. I've gone to several countries speaking Esperanto, and it's helped me quite a lot. And hey -- if Trekkies and anime fans can have their own world, then la tutmondaj esperantistoj ankaŭ povas ekzisti, bone kaj feliĉe!
And don't get me started on the REAL international conlang which is 100% better than Esperanto: Volapük. Si no kanols spikön Volapüki, no sevols, kio binon läb verätik in vol obsik at. O pük jönik kion!
I understand and respect your opinion, but I disagree when you said that Americans deserve to be their mother tongue as an international language. I took at least 4 years studying English to be able to have a conversation, and I'm still learning. I mean, I'm not even fluent... 75 days ago , I decided to learn Esperanto, and in terms of comparison, I would say that I've learned as much Esperanto as 1,5 years of English. I'm not an activist or Esperantisto as they call themselves, I wanted to learn it just for a hobby, and because I liked the way it sounds. I honestly don't believe it'll be the international language, but just in case I'll be ready 😂 on the other hand, the learning is being pleasurable and funny.
Ithkuil is obviously the best language. It is very easy to learn for everyone and it is already spoken by more than 5 people
XD
I totally support this point.
Nahuatl most best language, it spoken by all Mexica
I'm more of a NEW ITHKUIL kinda guy.
ITHKUIL III
Sentinelese would be a good choice as an international language
Italian was chosen as a model for pronunciation because it has the simplest phonology out of all extant languages. So a good model for one who's trying to make his language as simple as possible, wouldn't you think?
3:20 "It just has too many words"
- Oh ? I've got a language that can solve that.
"It should only have a few hundred words"
- OH ??
"And that's why I think toki pona should be the international language instead"
- AYYYYYYYY
Lon
I think the name "esperanto" comes from the root that means "hope" in romance languages. For exemple in france it's "esperance", and i'm pretty sure it's similar in spanish
Of course. In fact, 'esperanto' is (in Esperanto) a participle meaning 'one who hopes', just as, say, 'kantanto' means 'one who sings'. The creator of the language signed his first publications as "Dro Esperanto" = "the hopeful doctor", and his pen-name stuck to the language (which he himself had simply named Lingvo internacia).
you're right, in spanish we say esperanza
in portuguese is esperança
The original name was "desperanto", more accurate name if you ask my opinion.
@@angelostsirimokos8104By the way, another English word for "one who hopes" is "aspirant," so I don't know why people don't say the obvious "Esperanto means aspirant" and instead dance around it with primitive caveman English.
There was once, not so long ago, a language like Esperanto that was actually used and actually did what it was supposed to. It's called the Chinook Jargon, or Chinuk Wawa. It may not sound too pretty, but it developed naturally out of contact between Natives and European traders and was used as far up the West Coast as southern Alaska. There's even a tribe that still continues to use it (Grand Ronde in Oregon), who publishes a really info-packed text book in which you can learn all 500 of the language's root words.
Tl;dr, Chinook Jargon did it better just by being a naturally-developed contact language.
I wake up everyday at 4.00 am. I immediately start doing push-ups counting them in all 35 languages I speak. Once I finish, I spend one hour meditating listening to Simp's videos, they help me stay focused and positive, and I learn so fucking much. Dankon Simp!
5:53 But you have inferior potassium.
I think Icelandic should be the lingua de franca of the whole world. It’s incredibly simple (I learned it when I was only a baby) and everyone around me speaks it. Besides, who doesn’t want to sound like a badass viking. First class will be learning the voiceless alveolar lateral affricate.
I actually adore the sound of Icelandic, but to spice things up I think we should do Icelandic-Basque pidgin instead, maybe throw in some Hungarian.
The big superiority term adore and the numbers must be edited out, such words and numbers only reflect me The Goddess and cannot be misused by ppl in any way in yt names or names or in comments etc - adore is love related term, and love related terms only reflect me the only lovable being, and one should use words such as like or find this language pretty etc, not words such as adore or love! Astral terms such as Sol and words such as ber also cannot be misused in names or yt names and must be changed - only we pure / superior beings (me & the pure protectors aka the alphas) reflect astral terms / names / items etc!
The international languages should be English & Dutch & Old Norse, which are the prettiest and most refined languages with the most pretty and poetic words and also the easiest languages ever, and Norwegian is also one of the prettiest ever! Icelandic is also gorgeous and I am learning it, but Old Norse is a bit easier to read and it looks a bit more refined because it doesn’t have those extra Us before the last Rs / consonants, so it’s more suitable to be an universal language - but everyone should learn both Icelandic and Old Norse, and the other main Nordic / Germanic languages! Esperanto is a nice language, not the prettiest Latin language, but still nice enough to learn, so it’s on my list of languages I want to learn and improve, and it’s similar to Spanish & Latin, and the word Esperanto is nice and fits the language well, so what this video says isn’t true at all, probably just parody!
I like Icelandic, it's basically english but better. I think diacritics are a bit too prevalent in it though
A friend of mine was Canada's ambassador to Iceland and he told me that Icelandic is very challenging for English speakers, but I told him Japanese would probably come in at a close second.
I've been learning Esperanto recently and I agree with a lot of this, but I'm just learning it because it's something unique and interesting to put on a college application/scholarship.
Many people start learning it by linguistic curiosity and then find out that it is so interesting to connect with Esperanto speakers all over the world
I just learned to gain romance vocabulary. Helped me quite a bit in Spanish.
it's also probably somewhat easy to learn
"A useful language like German or Maltese"
that fucking killed me, nobody mentions Maltese in the middle of a conversation.
You spoke some important points about esperanto,I did not know this another side, thank you so much by the video,ande what do you think about latim language?
100% agree. To be honest an international language should be easy to understand and fast to use. Like Python.
An international language should have semicolons
Assembly code is better
💀
Lojban is designed for you guys.
Not Python. Humans won't apply significant whitespace correctly, see below. I'm with the semicolons and curly brackets.
The Piano
{was sold to the lady}
with carved legs
« It’s written in the American alphabet » (referring to the Latin alphabet)
« We invented democracy » (δῆμος+ κράτος)
Ancient Greeks and Romans would be like: 🤨
🤓
🤣
The ancient Greek “Democracy” is not the kind of democracy that survives today. Their “democracy” was very different (for example, only the male warrior class had any real power) with our modern democracy having derived more directly from the Native Americans. See the Iroquois Confederacy and the “5 civilized tribes”
@@flightlesschicken7769 Yes, but still, you cannot say «we invented democracy» like that. I mean, it’s obviously wrong. Maybe « we contributed to its current state, but not «invented»
@@LeoBloom-kc4iv well, yeah. I wouldn’t say that Americans invented democracy. I also wouldn’t say the Greeks did under our modern definition of democracy either. But the word sure does trace its existence back to the ancient Greek and something sort of resembling our modern democracy was used by some ancient Greeks
Basque should honestly be the de facto language of the entire world because it's not (as far as we know) related to any other language on Earth, meaning that everyone will have an equally difficult time trying to learn it.
As a Brazilian songwriter said: "Ninguém sabe falar esperanto. Miséria é miséria em qualquer canto!"
No one knows how to speak Esperanto?! You need to get better informed! There are thousands of Esperanto speakers in Brazil. It has one of the biggest Esperanto communities in the world.
Attic/Koine Greek is the only Lingua Franca there ever was, and ever needs to be. The simple act of learning Attic Greek automatically makes you a better than others. This is clearly the only option for a world language.
The only lingua franca is French silly
@@atkospr _shhh_ we don't want to dig that up
@@atkospr'Cause it has Frank in it.
Beacause of you, i started learning esperanto🎉.
We need a same video about "Interlingua". I think it is more interesting for learn...When you don't have anything to make in the day, and if you are a Romance Speaker.
I do not know many constructed languages, but i think that a internacional conlang should be the write system of Karl Kasiel Blitz, it is so easy that kids with cerebral palsy is lerning, and also was created for "wolrd peace" after WW2. (sorry for any typos i am brazilian 20 years old )
Perhaps at first Esperanto did fulfill the function for which it was created, but currently most speakers already know that Esperanto does not work as a lingua franca, I, for example, am learning it because it is an easy way to learn vocabulary and understand how many other languages work, I believe that the use of vocabulary from European languages (Spanish, English, French...), is due to the fact that European languages are the most widespread in the world, and in this way it is intended that is the easiest thing for most to learn.
PD: In Poland there is a town with native speakers, but it is not a big town
toki pona has native speaker too!
@@notwithouttext where?
@@Ivacraft to be fair it's only one, and they also speak english and arabic, and aren't fluent, but just look up "toki pona native speaker" with eriksealader, who taught his child toki pona (not the oziji ones because those are just skits),
Toki ponists thinking their language with 125 words is somehow usable to make actual sentences that can't be misinterpreted at all
@@kiwenmanisuno 137 words, and although you could misinterpret things easily it's easy to clarify and give context
Personally I think the Ulster dialect of Irish should be the world language
Esperanto is a corrupted word from Esperanza which means Hope in Spanish.
toki pona should be taught in every school tbh
It feels arrogant to say, but I think it's pretty clear that English is the most "international" language we currently have. More people speak it as a second language than as a first.
It just further reinforces America's unearned cultural dominance and forces several thousands of millions of people to spend years learning an annoying and highly irregular language while the Americans literally don't have to lift a finger because they already speak it fluently.
Oh, hang on. You didn't say American. You said English. Actually, I take it back. Good choice.
@@omp199I'm pretty sure most people who are fluent in english as a second language(like me) acquired it just by being involved with the internet, without dedicated study. But I do get that depends on how much time you spend on the internet so, I guess
@@omp199"tell me your american without telling me your american"
"I know only one language"
Latin should be the international language. It was the original international language used by several monks and aristocrats for centuries, not to mention that since few people today know it, everyone has to take part in knowing it. Valete!👋
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Yeah equal in how unsuitable for everyone it is. Not sure if that's the kind of equality people want. This is like making a country wealth equal by exiling all the rich people so only the poor are left
There will never be a neutral language for everyone. Every language will be easier for native speakers of some languages compared to others. I think that Esperanto was a good try. I like Interlingua the most as a conlang, as it is unabashedly trying to focus on the Romance languages (with some English as a kind of tie-breaker), and also takes away the difficult grammar.
It was a good try, but still failed.
The thing is, most people don't want to learn any foreign language at all.
In my country, most don't even have an International passport to travel.
As for those, who care they aren't bothered so much with its difficulty. In fact a difficult language even has an advantage, because mastering it gives you an edge over the lazy crowd.
Also people don't necessarily learn languages to talk with all people around the world, but rather because some culture is "superior" in their opinion and gives them possibilities, so they want to be a member of the "club".
The problem with interlingua is that it is much harder to speak it fluently than Esperanto. I speak Esperanto fluently and Interlingua is easy to understand for speakers of Romance languages
@@alalexesc I would guess that you have not studied them equally. And of course for those who studied Interlingua, they may think that it's easier to speak fluently than Esperanto (unless you are pointing to some unmentioned feature of the language itself). And as you mentioned, for speakers of Romance languages, Interlingua should be extra simple to learn. So I'd say it depends. From the little that I know, both Interlingua and Esperanto seem to be quite simple to learn as languages go (simple grammar, regularity, etc).
@@KnightOfEternity13 "still failed"
Hard to succeed when Esperanto gets almost accepted as an international language at the league of Nation, but France and France only objects because they want to keep their monopoly as the language of diplomacy (which they lost to english), and then the nazis killed off many jews which Esperantists disproportionnately were, including Zamenhof's family.
Being the world leading language has little to do with being a good language and a lot to do with being the language of a world power. English for the western world, Russian for the east when the USSR was a thing. If the US and Europe were to lose a world war (which I definetly hope they won't, they're bad but the alternatives are so much worse) you'd have chinese becoming a world language. Esperanto was never going to become THE international language, but it definetly had a shot at being wildly more popular than it is but got blocked by fucking french and nazis.
Toki pona
Language Simp should be the new voice of Mario
I'm struggling with English, plus I'm an obsessional person , I'm obsessed with perfection ( french damage 😅) so my goal is to master English as french, after that I'm no learning a new language anymore I quite
Props to you for not switch baiting and actually saying you love Esperanto and its your mother tongue and the secret to eternal life. Respect!
Esperanto must be learned after having learned all the languages of the world in order to reach 100%, in any other case, just speak Russian.
as a Russian, I see this as an absolute win
as a Russian language fan, I see this as an absolute win
Ас а Руссиан лангуаге фан, И сее тхис ас ан абсолуте вин
@@Slavasil This hurt to read
@@legacywolf443 it hurts to write too :(
Hello from city of Białystok (city where esperanto was created)
A few days ago, there was a guy that in the French channel on Discord, he wanted everyone to learn Esperanto.
I think the global lingua franca should be Hungarian. There's no bias here as it's impossible to learn for anyone trying to!
Pontosan, egyetértek veled.
A légpárnásom tele van angolnákkal.
The Duolingo lessons on Hungarian were the hardest. It begins with the hardest types of sentences. That made me give up on learning Hungarian.
@@30803080308030803081 Yes, Duolingo Hungarian is notoriously bad and is enough to put anybody off learning Hungarian.
Hungarian is so easy. Even a child can learn it. I learned Hungarian when I was a baby and now I speak it fluently.
@@randomhungarianperson Hmmmm.. something seems a little bit sus here. I could not pinpoint what exactly though
Petition for Language Simp to review Toki Pona 👇
wile tawa ni: jan Language Simp li lukin e toki pona 👇
pona a!
mi pilin e ni: „review” li sama ala e „lukin e”, li sama e „toki tawa”
Sonja Lang, the creator of Toki Pona, is an esperantist. There are Esperanto influences in her language.
o toki pona!
@@janPolijan a. mi sona e sina. sina pana e toki lon sitelen tawa mi
I genuinely don't understand if it's satire or real
I love you, man. Love and peace for you, thank you for your critic sense.
I believe the most ideal lingua franca would be Mongolian. It is just put simply, a gigachad language with cool history behind it and overall is pretty easy to learn. 😊
And you can throat sing in Mongolian too!
And it should be throat sung not spoken
But The official language in chad are french and Arabic
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Why noone likes esperanto rather
And I totally agree with Toki Pona as global language
Also a common European language could be reconstruction of Proto-indoeuropean
Toki Pona is too hard to say something a little more complex than something very basic, Proto-Indoeuropean is too hard to learn (and maybe not very well known (we don't know what H1, H2 and H3 are, I don't know how much we know about syntax but I think it's not very much))
Just use Latin again
@@FakePaleThe Germanic and Slavic people whose languages didn't evolve from Latin: 👁👄👁
@@heinrich.hitzinger +Baltic, Greek, Albanian, Celtic, Roma
@@heinrich.hitzinger Those still used Latin as the language of scholarship and diplomacy for most of their history
Really the only ones who would have valid reason to argue are the Greeks
I think what would make a 'good' international language will depend on what you want it to do, if it's to facilitate basic communication and understanding of ideas between people globally then Toki Pona is a great candidate, I agree. A lot of care was put into making it simple to learn & understand and pronounced and encourages the idea of circumlocution, which is an essential skill (IMO) for any language learner, because it compensates for missing vocabulary. But if it's to have anything more complex than that, for example, if it's something the scientific community uses around the world, then Toki Pona wouldn't cut it. Though Esperanto could, but then if we make Esperanto a lingua franca, we might as well look at alternative languages that might be better.
If we'd be looking at a new lingua franca, I wanna throw my hat in the ring for Indonesian, it comes with some of the simplicity in grammar you find in a South East Asian language but without the complications brought by tones, it has a relatively simple pronunciation & phonology compared to other languages and it is written in the Latin alphabet, which is one of the easiest writing systems to learn. It is considered the Easiest Asian language for an English speaker to learn. With 200 million speakers it is already one of the most spoken languages in the world (which is a lot more than Esperanto), meaning finding people you can practice with won't be that difficult, especially in the internet age.
I find that in Esperanto, the affixes help me work around my vocabulary limitations, like saying "kieeco" (whereness) because I couldn't recall the word for direction.
Spanish should the international language
Conjugations are just a skill issue
And everything should be gendered so twitter can cry Abt it
All joking aside, Indonesian is actually the best pick. It may well be easier to learn than Esperanto and is already an auxiliary language with all the wrinkles ironed out. But as a fluent Finnish speaker, I think it would be a good second choice.
1:00 that is good point. I agree with every point you made
Hungarian is the best language for global communication, extremely simple to learn , easy to pronounce, words and word order doesn't change.
It does seem easy to pronounce.
True. You can memoritse the agglutnations in your sleep and even when deceased
I love Toki Pona (I make videos in it, have a look)... but should it be THE international language, as you say? Although, yes, you could use it in that way, note that it does not need to be. As it was never created for that purpose, Toki pona is primarily just chill, enjoyable, and useful as a personal or community language.
I agree. It's a chill language but it would become so mentally taxing to use it as an international auxiliary language
ken ala a, jan polijan a!
mi sona e sina a!
tokiiiiii
@@paper2222 toki a!
I remember falling for esperanto, spending 2 weeks learning it and realizing it was literally useless lol
I've been using it for 50 years in many countries, met my wife through Esperanto. Once you connect with the global Esperanto community, it can be very useful in various ways. When I lived in Japan, where I worked as an English teacher, I got to know Japan in-depth through Esperanto, not through English - I was invited to stay in the homes of Esperantists, attended meetings and congresses, got to know lots of people. (I learned Esperanto on my own in 3 months when I was only 13 years old.) I don't understand why you decided it's useless - you probably never tried to establish contacts with the Esperanto community.
I Saw A Duolingo Ad Before This Video, It Feels Like They're Spying On Me.
Welsh should be the international language because it's extremely easy and has funny sonorities
I have a confession. I took Esperanto for a week😭😭😭
I prescribe you 2 weeks of proto-albanian as penance
I took it for a year, got bored, then I changed to Klingons. My roommate kept calling me a beta nerd and I wasn't sure why.
@@nokaton Based made-up language for war aliens vs cringe made-up spanish for dumbs
that's probably long enough to learn the language depending on how many hours a week you studied
@@professorarielne, semajno estas tre malmulte, sed monato estas suficxe, mi pensas
Esperanto was named that because it's the language of hope.
I think it's a pretty fitting language, and it doesn't spur nationalism
For me, as a Nationalist; that’s a terrifying scenario: Decline in Nationalism.
Esperanto was intended to be the Pan-European language, not international. There is no single consonant that exists in every language and its creator would have known that and accepted that therefore it the difficulty would range wildly depending on the place the person is from. It's entered popular myth that it's international though.
My vote is for Polish. Not because I'm a Polkaphile, but because it's got a lot of good things going for it linguistically and, unlike its Slavic siblings, it uses an alphabet a lot of the planet is already familiar with. Also, Poland will rise again and dominate the globe. We're already seeing signs of it become the next greatest economy in the Europe. It's either that or the Chinese will impose Mandarin on us all.
Polish has probably the most messed up Latin writing system
I vote for Polish too, despite I am Russian. You know the reason. Kurwa.
Most sane polskaphile
also: other Slavic languages that use the Latin alphabet while making it dyslexic-proof: *staring menacingly*
Kurwa ja pierdole... Though Polish has too much hissing sounds that's why I don't really like it that much
@@o_s-24 Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz moment. (It could be written easier if poles decided to make rz, sz, cz combinations as one letter but it was too much effort for them)
I was hardcore into learning esperanto until I remembered that languages evolve, and that if everyone spoke it, In a few hundred years some parts of the population will be unable to understand other parts and the purpose will be defeated.
The purpose was to implement a lingua franca for present time, I doubt that somebody would care for centuries ahead
Duolingo is awesome. It helped me with French from zero to b1. Duo made it easy and fun. I also read and watched in French, and watched French teachers on CZcams. Duo did the most important part. It helped me to start the process and understand the basics.
I like english as international language. Yes It has some problems but compare it to other popular languages, I think the english is one of the easiest to learn( Of course, considering just laguages different root from yours)
It's just my perspective as a Portuguese native speaker, what you guy think about it?
"America invented democracy"
Greece:💀
5:07 Maltese?💀
There was a very brief point of my life in which I wanted to learn Esperanto specifically because William Shatner was in an all-Esperanto film called Incubus and I guess I thought it would be funny to ironically learn something useless 😂 I think I'd be better off learning Klingon.
4:37 wait, is this the Bulgarian flag I'm seeing while he says "...useful languages"? Finally, we get acknowledged