Game Theory: The Unsolved Lore of The Sims (Bella Goth Mystery)

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    Can you believe I've never covered the Sims? Once I realized it, I knew I had to remedy that IMMEDIATELY! And what better way than to dive into the weird and wondrous LORE of the Sims universe? There is a surprising amount of lore to sift through, so today we are focusing on one of the biggest ongoing mysteries. The mystery of Bella Goth. Who is she? You are about to find out more than you could ever imagine.
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  • @OverflowingWithIdeas
    @OverflowingWithIdeas Před rokem +31565

    FINALLY, THE SIMS THEORY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! THANK YOU MATPAT!

  • @yourbestpallshawn4139
    @yourbestpallshawn4139 Před rokem +10880

    “Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” I’m actually dying.

  • @KemFi
    @KemFi Před rokem +7380

    "Whenever there's a backstory, there is LOOOOOOOOOORE!",said MatPat calmly.

    • @user-to8hw5vg8x
      @user-to8hw5vg8x Před rokem +16

      @icecream !! weeewoooweeewooo

    • @SoggyCoffeeAddict
      @SoggyCoffeeAddict Před rokem +19

      "Did you put your name in the goblet of fire harry?!?!?!?!!??!??!!!!!" Dumbledore said calmly

    • @jan.akisa.
      @jan.akisa. Před rokem +4

      why is every bot on this comment

    • @_Gingi_Berri
      @_Gingi_Berri Před rokem +9

      I love these bots claiming to lead to videos about getting rid of bots

    • @Hat.
      @Hat. Před rokem

      The matpat movies vs the books

  • @wildflowerwingz4398
    @wildflowerwingz4398 Před rokem +5291

    This just make me realize how much sims 4 is missing. The og sims had so much going on that you’d never get bored.

    • @coastlinexclothes
      @coastlinexclothes Před rokem +76

      bella is in sims 4, i was playing yesterday and the first person i saw was her

    • @blew2077
      @blew2077 Před rokem +203

      @@coastlinexclothes yes but it doesn’t add to the lore

    • @coastlinexclothes
      @coastlinexclothes Před rokem +41

      @@blew2077 yeah ik, i just never knew that she disappeared

    • @Ash2theB
      @Ash2theB Před rokem +76

      because it's a different timeline.

    • @Ash2theB
      @Ash2theB Před rokem +8

      @@blew2077 Umm it actually does Strange Town

  • @MissSweetie
    @MissSweetie Před rokem +1844

    the calientes are truly evil, but mortimer goth really was a fool to fall for the caliente's shenanigans

    • @kurukavatar5089
      @kurukavatar5089 Před rokem +87

      I always knew my brother was in the right for blowing them up with a grill

    • @alondraarrizon5472
      @alondraarrizon5472 Před rokem +38

      Literally. Like how does your wife disappear without a trace and you end up falling like an idiot for two other ladies

    • @laco403
      @laco403 Před 10 měsíci +28

      They can send Sims into the past. It only stands to reason that they also have the means to manipulate Sims to be romantically interested in them.

    • @KeitieKalopsia
      @KeitieKalopsia Před 9 měsíci +13

      I wouldn't be surprised if they used some shady tactics to make him fall for Dina. It doesn't sound like they ever play fair.

    • @laurenfaulk4637
      @laurenfaulk4637 Před měsícem +2

      To be fair it’s been a whole life stage since her disappearance, he’s an elderly, depressed, broken soul.

  • @helpidroppedmydignity6138
    @helpidroppedmydignity6138 Před rokem +23334

    If Matpat dived really deep in Sims lore he would have an abundance of content, especially from the older titles

    • @Yayiden
      @Yayiden Před rokem +705

      I really thought he was going to talk about strangerville tho. It might not be related to Bella Goth story but its still really intresting and might give us a lot of ideas for all of the paranormal stuff going on in this city

    • @helpidroppedmydignity6138
      @helpidroppedmydignity6138 Před rokem +387

      @@Yayiden Not just Strangerville, there's Olivia Specter, the Landgrabbs, etc.

    • @booleah6357
      @booleah6357 Před rokem +185

      Sims 3 when you could cook and eat babies

    • @zeroknight1311
      @zeroknight1311 Před rokem +163

      We might end up having a complete series of videos that could Rival the number of Minecraft theories. I'm not saying the Fnaf Theories because....that number can't be surpassed by any other series. Especially with how Fnaf theories seem to just appear on this channel.

    • @M0rbidCuriositea
      @M0rbidCuriositea Před rokem +120

      Plumbella has an amazing series on the history of specific sims. I think she has several about Bella.

  • @1NT3RN3TBARF
    @1NT3RN3TBARF Před rokem +11001

    For someone that doesn’t play the sims
    This is probably the equivalent to watching a murder mystery

  • @akarimonet
    @akarimonet Před rokem +752

    I wish sims would make a scenario around finding out why and how she disappeared, I would do partake in that

  • @tomsparrow1823
    @tomsparrow1823 Před rokem +817

    Therapist: SimPat isn't real, he can't hurt you
    SimPat: 👁👁🤔

    • @Nhaptenkenh
      @Nhaptenkenh Před rokem +8

      Sul sul

    • @discoverysmith1111
      @discoverysmith1111 Před 9 měsíci +7

      wohutu tukiwatu'si dohusitu wa tukiweboruya, wa bawamowe tukiweboruya! tukiwanilasi naboru fewatulikijiniba. (But thats just a theory, a game theory! Thanks for watching.)

  • @AussieCassPlays
    @AussieCassPlays Před rokem +2502

    The Caliente family name literally has the word alien in it. The Sims team were never subtle. But the Sims 4 isn’t part of the same lore universe as the rest of the franchise - Bella was never abducted in that game.

    • @mineamuumaa6849
      @mineamuumaa6849 Před rokem +206

      Maybe Bella was able to change the future of her the Sims 3 kid-self by writing those books. And that's why she's still there in the Sims 4?

    • @jjbarajas5341
      @jjbarajas5341 Před rokem +260

      I mean.. Caliente just means "Hot" in Spanish. If the devs were alluding to aliens on purpose, that was a clever bilingual joke.

    • @Philmccracken790
      @Philmccracken790 Před rokem +102

      @@jjbarajas5341 theres a lot of jokes like that in the game, it was definitely on purpose

    • @AussieCassPlays
      @AussieCassPlays Před rokem +17

      @@jjbarajas5341 I’m positive that was the case. 🙂

    • @Anti-HyperLink
      @Anti-HyperLink Před rokem +28

      I've never even thought of that. How is that not subtle?

  • @CambieEverdeen
    @CambieEverdeen Před rokem +7469

    That also makes sense why Bella’s whole family is together in the Sims 4, the alternate timeline. The timeline where her warnings from the past had worked

    • @BunnyDoesArtThings
      @BunnyDoesArtThings Před rokem +346

      Technically it isnt either, players just say that. Because reality the sims just never continued the lore because by sims 4 they were money hungry, ddint care about it

    • @unknown60963
      @unknown60963 Před rokem +133

      Cambie, Bella escaped, she is in the Sims 4 because her warnings worked, it isn't a alternate timeline, it's just bella being smart.

    • @tgamer1510
      @tgamer1510 Před rokem +30

      @@BunnyDoesArtThings This just isn't true. grow up

    • @astronomy7823
      @astronomy7823 Před rokem +113

      @@unknown60963 No it's because Sims 4 has little to no significant lore because EA got indeed too money hungry. If she really escaped you would've had any sort of hint about it, such as Nina/Dina being locked up or some lore regarding the past. Go read Caliente's biography in Sims 4, if you still think it isn't an "alternate timeline" aka just EA being lazy then you must be high.

    • @redrosey6768
      @redrosey6768 Před rokem +6

      That what I think to glad someone make this comment

  • @Katie-ws8ph
    @Katie-ws8ph Před rokem +116

    “She enjoyed many passtimes, from golf to minigolf”

  • @flonet5906
    @flonet5906 Před rokem +205

    What I find very interesting is that when you play as the goth family, Cassanda has a negative memory of losing her mother. However, Mortimer has a positive memory of losing her. The sisters are aliens and Mortimer had a romantic relationship with the one of the Caliente sisters. So I think that Mortimer worked together with the Caliente sisters.

    • @deadeyeguys
      @deadeyeguys Před rokem +46

      im pretty sure mortimer is a knowledge sim. they always have positive memories when they or a family member get abducted by aliens. while it's suspicious, i usually chalk it up to the way the game was programmed.

    • @flonet5906
      @flonet5906 Před rokem +20

      @@deadeyeguys After going back and playing the sims 2 again, I think you might be right, although i still find it suspicious that Motimer has a romantic relationship with one of the Caliente sisters.

    • @deadeyeguys
      @deadeyeguys Před rokem +11

      @@flonet5906 yeah i do agree w that, it's weird but it doesn't inherently mean he had anything to do with it, he's probably just a weirdo lmao. but in general tbh, as someone who knows a... bit too much about sims lore i don't agree with matpat's theory at all in general as well.

    • @KNUCKLES-vl5bv
      @KNUCKLES-vl5bv Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@deadeyeguys what's your theory?

    • @Lemony123
      @Lemony123 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@flonet5906 I wonder if Mortimer actually know about Cassandra ancestor, and that is why he actually had it.

  • @projekttaku1
    @projekttaku1 Před rokem +2309

    Matpat! Another mystery in the Goth family is from the Sim 3. There’s a grave in the backyard named “Lolita Goth” who died of electrocution. The texture beside her grave is more brown dirt compared to Gunther’s parents who had dark green grass, implying that she was buried recently. In addition, if you look at any of the Goth family trees, there no Lolita in sight

    • @mexicafluentgamer473
      @mexicafluentgamer473 Před rokem +85

      Could be a family pet

    • @AutisticKittyStar
      @AutisticKittyStar Před rokem +87

      She died before electricity was a thing, her ghost can be found ...

    • @coolguy5133
      @coolguy5133 Před rokem +1

      @Based Beast 😈 Bruh, put up or shut up!

    • @SCPguy
      @SCPguy Před rokem +22

      @Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

    • @SCPguy
      @SCPguy Před rokem +20

      @Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

  • @deku976
    @deku976 Před rokem +2681

    "Those who knew her best would describe her as: Jowlenin, kooj, and even ravasheen" absolutely killed me

  • @CammieCakesz
    @CammieCakesz Před rokem +122

    I literally almost choked on my food when he said “ Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” in such a serious voice 😂😂 I cannot. Great detective work! Your explanation makes wayyyy more sense and you definitely cracked the case WIDE open

  • @broadwaybrat1986
    @broadwaybrat1986 Před rokem +94

    The fact that my sim tried to kiss Bella and she rejected her and all of a sudden Dina appeared out of nowhere and kissed my sim. They are married now and living a beautiful lesbian relationship. This is mind blowing right now…

  • @chriscomer1798
    @chriscomer1798 Před rokem +930

    The "she disappeared without even a dagdag" REALLY got me lol

    • @NurseKortney
      @NurseKortney Před rokem +10

      Lmao me too! I started laughing hard

    • @meggnogg
      @meggnogg Před rokem +11

      Same here, not even a casual lil nose laugh but a full on belly laugh lol

    • @MarieMaia445
      @MarieMaia445 Před rokem +8

      Caught me off guard too.😂😂😂 I've never surprised laugh before.

  • @maiqisdonetalking1832
    @maiqisdonetalking1832 Před rokem +4136

    "Bella disappeared without even a dag dag" made my day.

  • @jennhernandz3912
    @jennhernandz3912 Před rokem +113

    Well, there’s another key piece of information that you overlooked that’s very easily very early stated in this whole thing Bella was the last scene scaling that means climbing his balcony. Nobody finds that weird but me.

    • @alexking1075
      @alexking1075 Před rokem +7

      She may have been climbing his balcony for personal reasons (affair) but she was abducted from said area before anything could happen

    • @vexywexypoo
      @vexywexypoo Před rokem +26

      Knowing the sims, she might be been trying to kill him in his sleep or something.

    • @PhantomCheddar
      @PhantomCheddar Před rokem +35

      this could mean that the abduction took place at his house. whoever saw it saw her floating up, and misremembered it as her climbing

    • @Mustafa_AhmedPGH
      @Mustafa_AhmedPGH Před rokem

      @@PhantomCheddar Could be.

    • @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533
      @b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533 Před rokem

      He gave her a house tour 🤣

  • @zanyzz2343
    @zanyzz2343 Před rokem +23

    0:53 Let’s just appreciate that he said hello in Simlish.

  • @sm0rie
    @sm0rie Před rokem +3719

    I'm surprised we haven't discussed this yet on this channel. The amount of mysterious lore is just itching to be unveiled

    • @shmook28
      @shmook28 Před rokem +28

      Agreed! Especially in the item descriptions these games are dripping with seeeecreeeets

    • @ilikedairy8539
      @ilikedairy8539 Před rokem +12

      @@shmook28 yeah I think there is a story talking about a princess and pirate love story in some of the descriptions of the items in the sims 4!

    • @Deeviiouss
      @Deeviiouss Před rokem

      Fr

  • @raistlinsmith4181
    @raistlinsmith4181 Před rokem +33

    Does that mean I broke the cycle when I stole Bella from her husband changed her name and hair and killed a rich guy to live in his house and forced her to never speak to her family again? Wow I’m a hero and I didn’t even know it

  • @celesteeeeee
    @celesteeeeee Před rokem +53

    Is it just me or does that Goth family remind you of the Adams family 😂

    • @doc-savage
      @doc-savage Před rokem +11

      Isn't that the exact reference that they're based on? 🤣🤣

  • @alpha-noob7820
    @alpha-noob7820 Před rokem +1350

    Bella was just taken to be a part of one of Graystillplays’s “experiments”, honestly a fate worse than death. But that’s just a game theory.

    • @TheGudeGamer
      @TheGudeGamer Před rokem +13

      LMAO

    • @scarxnnivs
      @scarxnnivs Před rokem +79

      Made even worse if you remember Gray hasn't played the Sims in like 3 years lmao.

    • @terezamatys4489
      @terezamatys4489 Před rokem +40

      Too bad there haven't been new videos about it lately. I miss the torture.

    • @CyberBlastoise
      @CyberBlastoise Před rokem +36

      Alright so we're playing the only game where you can abduct someone to ruin their marriage, it's The Sims

    • @_.z33._
      @_.z33._ Před rokem +16

      im convinced this is actually what happened

  • @nyashiahughes3829
    @nyashiahughes3829 Před rokem +1863

    This actually makes alot of sense considering the sims 4 was labeled as an alternate timeline all together.

    • @WorldWeave
      @WorldWeave Před rokem +52

      Sims 4 is an alternate timeline?

    • @benjaminphelps561
      @benjaminphelps561 Před rokem +56

      You know, i was just gonna ask where sims 4 would fit but that makes a lot of sense

    • @holy8782
      @holy8782 Před rokem +97

      @@WorldWeave Yep, the Sims 4 is in a completely different timeline. Hence why Bella isn't missing in it.

    • @kayquinn9439
      @kayquinn9439 Před rokem +33

      Oh ok so the new timeline bella made

    • @brandongreenland9632
      @brandongreenland9632 Před rokem +43

      Beat me to it- I was originally going to comment this?
      Come to think of it, Bella's death really wasn't in vain, seeing how in the Sims 4, an "Alternate universe" to the older timeline, has its Bella alive and well, even if the Goth family overall are at different ages. If everything is correct, then that means the sisters WERE in fact thwarted by the preparations that Bella made in the past to affect the future, changing the timeline as a whole.

  • @adviththegreat5610
    @adviththegreat5610 Před 6 měsíci +11

    I think there is something missing in the theory. Bella was last seen scaling the deck of Don's condo, but why? Was she lured there? That could be a possibility as he was dating both the sisters, they could have made him lure her to a to his condo and then sent her to past. Not only that, this would also explain why they sent Don to past, to erase any evidence. Anyways, as sims 4 was my first sims game, I used to think sims games don't really have much going in them but now after watching this I was surprised. Great video mat.

  • @DessertDoggie
    @DessertDoggie Před rokem +22

    There's only so hyped you can get about city planning" my thoughts immediately went to Annabeth Chase.

  • @djparty4941
    @djparty4941 Před rokem +1754

    Killing the maids in the sims 3 when they’d flirt with your husband was so tense. I’m so glad he found this mystery. The caliente sisters and don lotharo are suspicious

    • @him6603
      @him6603 Před rokem +12

      who said you had to kill them? 😐

    • @michaeld.jconnolly1281
      @michaeld.jconnolly1281 Před rokem +6

      Alien Abduction was revealed when in?Sims 3 you explored the Alien home world there is Belle Goths Tombstone.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před rokem

      E‎ ‎

    • @willford55543
      @willford55543 Před rokem +1

      @@michaeld.jconnolly1281 I mean in one of the neighborhoods in Sims 2 you can find Bella's alien body double there as well.

  • @anastasiaalex6177
    @anastasiaalex6177 Před rokem +384

    “Bella disappeared without a dag dag” im dead 😂 he isn’t wrong

    • @BerryPower15
      @BerryPower15 Před rokem

      obligatory rick roll link: czcams.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/video.html

    • @diversezebra6754
      @diversezebra6754 Před rokem +2

      Not as dead as Bella.....

  • @dominicstevenson8816
    @dominicstevenson8816 Před rokem +25

    Sims online and sims medieval sound like my kind of game, and I just leaned about them now.

  • @Dfayethegay9
    @Dfayethegay9 Před rokem +39

    Sometimes
    I wonder what goes on in his head, I never thought the sims could be theorized

  • @vi0letrei
    @vi0letrei Před rokem +842

    I used to spend hours just reading all the descriptions of everything in the sims, the writers are top tier

  • @xavierparis2789
    @xavierparis2789 Před rokem +1104

    I desperately want to see more Sims theories in the future. The entire “canon” has this mysterious air to it, and since it’s supposed to be a sandbox you only ever get just enough to make you wonder, so it’s always super intriguing. Creeped me out as a kid. If I recall, the Sims 2 has an entire plot when played on PSP, I wonder if that ties into anything.

    • @lulaellie
      @lulaellie Před rokem +39

      Yeah, you can spot Bella who tells you she's running away from aliens even :)

    • @SkycometFallen
      @SkycometFallen Před rokem +31

      Look into Olive Specter. She’s a serial killer who buried her victims in the backyard. She even has a chair to gloat from. (The sims 2)

    • @justaperson4656
      @justaperson4656 Před rokem +11

      The sims 2 also has lore on sims 2 ds, such as the mayor of strangetown (Honest) being murdered by a mafia man (Frankie). Iirc didn't the sims 2 psp also happen in strangetown? I remember nervous subject being dead in that game

    • @TheElephantChumpkin
      @TheElephantChumpkin Před rokem +3

      Ps2 sims2 had storyline as well.

    • @duskdawn1974
      @duskdawn1974 Před rokem

      Sims 2 psp had ghosts, monsters, zombies aliens, a cow cult, a robot wife, a mad scientist, bella, and a couple of other weirdos. It's so interesting maaan.

  • @princeneko9103
    @princeneko9103 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I'm surprised it took Game Theory this long to talk about probably one of the biggest misteries in video game history but alas, I am very happy it's finally here

  • @mckamy4711
    @mckamy4711 Před rokem +13

    now that we know the sims 5 is coming, it'll be interesting to see how they continue the goth family story

  • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
    @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 Před rokem +1152

    I certainly wasn’t ever expecting in the 7+ years I’ve been watching the theory channels for Mat to make a theory about the SIMS, but here we are

    • @blitzie66
      @blitzie66 Před rokem +6

      i was so excited to see this- been playing these games since i was a child and love the lore of them

    • @blyat8832
      @blyat8832 Před rokem +7

      Then you must've actually not been watching for 7+ years like you just lied about lmao. They've done theories for way wackier and more obscure games, of course they'd do one for this one. I am guessing they just didn't know there was a big theory inside this game until recently

    • @xx_robotkrew_xx1446
      @xx_robotkrew_xx1446 Před rokem +7

      @@blyat8832 no what I’m saying is that I wasn’t expecting there to be any kind of lore in the SIMS. Granted, I don’t play the sims. That’s what I meant. Sorry if that wasn’t exactly clear

    • @Human_traain
      @Human_traain Před rokem +1

      Its fake

    • @ms.fukawa-hanamura3754
      @ms.fukawa-hanamura3754 Před rokem

      @beyond your imagination Nice nuts

  • @justsam4321
    @justsam4321 Před rokem +976

    FINALLY. We did it simmers. We reeled in Matpat into the lore of the sims
    And this is only a taste of what the main Sims games have to offer

    • @mystykmarigold
      @mystykmarigold Před rokem +4

      1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 ,7 bots noticed, 3 of which are the same bot with the same message

  • @jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787

    This theory was great. And I might be biased as a huge Vinesauce fan buuut, if sims theory’s are now on the table you should look into Johnny Zest.

  • @Heather_no_numbers
    @Heather_no_numbers Před rokem +12

    Whoa, that is pretty amazing. And kind of creepy. Man, I wish i could play the Sims again. It was so fun just building houses and neighborhoods. I think i built more than the Sims themselves.

  • @Mysteriofreeflying
    @Mysteriofreeflying Před rokem +1817

    “If a pair of attractive twins shows interest in you be aware it could be aliens”
    Thanks Matpat! I’d keep that in mind.

  • @dazzlethestar151
    @dazzlethestar151 Před rokem +1482

    I remember hearing about the disappearance of Bella Goth and always wondered what happened to her. Glad to see MatPat trying to solve this mystery!

  • @lulumo9229
    @lulumo9229 Před 10 měsíci +5

    We need more sims theories. There's so many mysteries in the sims. Like Olive in sims 2 with the graveyard in her yard, her romance with the grim reaper and her son who was taken away and adopted by evil scientists.

  • @ClementWilliamstheoneandonly

    I loved the Sims as a kid, but I always kinda wished there was an option beyond sandbox play for more explicit story-driven events, etc! This is exactly the kinda background lore that I wish could have been pushed more to the forefront in a story mode of sorts!

  • @Snowangel231
    @Snowangel231 Před rokem +2374

    You're gonna love Strangetown's backstories. I personally like Curious, Beaker and Specter household backstories. Specter family is creepy but also very sad one.

    • @raxxie
      @raxxie Před rokem +74

      Sims 2 had the BEST lore to play with. I miss Strangetowne every day!

    • @huynguyen-yb4pf
      @huynguyen-yb4pf Před rokem +1

      ok

    • @galicry
      @galicry Před rokem +5

      honestly when i first saw this vid when it came out, i thought this was goimg to be about the ghost in the mansion u just... adopt? in sims 2

    • @rena3433
      @rena3433 Před rokem +1

      ​@@raxxie oo

    • @rena3433
      @rena3433 Před rokem +1

      ​@@raxxie oopoooqo

  • @haileywheeler1397
    @haileywheeler1397 Před rokem +801

    The amount of lore we have within the sims games is crazily abundant. If matpat did a deep dive he would have soooo many videos on his hands. I am all for matpat getting into sims lore.

  • @Vall..TheEmo
    @Vall..TheEmo Před rokem +3

    this hurt my brain- I had to rewatch it 3 times to understand lol, seriously though, how can you explain a 16 year mystery in under 20 minutes, keep it going!

  • @dandelions3
    @dandelions3 Před rokem +6

    As someone who plays the sims 4, I have been blessed even though I am 3 months late

  • @makaylaserniotti1474
    @makaylaserniotti1474 Před rokem +716

    Wait until we tell him about how the occult sims in the sims 4 interact, werewolves especially have an absurd amount of lore

    • @Oddhowl_GlitchXYT
      @Oddhowl_GlitchXYT Před rokem +18

      I love how they added werewolves, it’s a lot of my sorta style, especially when they’re anthropomorphic

    • @thunderbolt64_
      @thunderbolt64_ Před rokem +1

      theres werewolves?

    • @xeoney
      @xeoney Před rokem +4

      I wonder if he'll be able to come up with a theory, considering most of it is already told through artifacts or in the descriptions of furniture/paintings

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Před rokem +1

      Or our dear leader

  • @kayaikinci9855
    @kayaikinci9855 Před rokem +1870

    I've waited for 16 years for this explanation from the creators , you are really a life saver

    • @Hadalamehandle
      @Hadalamehandle Před rokem +23

      “Where there is backstory there is MUSIC MANNNNNN”

    • @maxwellstefan8868
      @maxwellstefan8868 Před rokem +26

      Plumbella on youtube covered this same theory also and she makes a lot of other videos about Sims lore if you're interested

    • @alissabeck5608
      @alissabeck5608 Před rokem +4

      There's also a channel called The Sims Lore that dives into the lore of all of the different sim families

    • @kayaikinci9855
      @kayaikinci9855 Před rokem

      @@alissabeck5608 yes, I love that channel just recently discovered that and watched all her videos

  • @bayleebrack1852
    @bayleebrack1852 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Gonna miss this Matt hope your happier tho

  • @galix_c
    @galix_c Před rokem +2

    There’s SO MUCH sims lore to explore! I’d love more GT episodes please

  • @HalluCat
    @HalluCat Před rokem +1100

    Bella also appears in psp version of The Sims. She walks in the small store, disoriented and not remembering anything. But she gives away her house to you. The house with a ghost maid. There is also plot line story about aliens in that game.

    • @ToyotaTacomaOfficial
      @ToyotaTacomaOfficial Před rokem +17

      Lol this is deep

    • @roronoazoroa3052
      @roronoazoroa3052 Před rokem +55

      Finally I found this comment, the house is called Espiritu Estate in Paradise Place and Emily Emory is not a ghost maid, there are 2 ghost in music room and the masters bedroom

    • @HalluCat
      @HalluCat Před rokem +27

      @@roronoazoroa3052 Emily Emory is the third ghost in Espiritu Estate, which is located in Strangetown in PSP version of The Sims 2. She died in 1923.

    • @roronoazoroa3052
      @roronoazoroa3052 Před rokem +8

      @@HalluCat really? So thats why she says that "there are 3 ghosts in this house" and i thought it is Bella Goth and not emily

    • @galicry
      @galicry Před rokem +15

      I RLY THOUGHT THIS VID WAS GONNA TOUCH ON THIS PLOTLINE WHEN I FIRST SAW IT SJDKDSND

  • @Galaxydragonpie
    @Galaxydragonpie Před rokem +687

    It would be interesting to see matpat cover the vampire and werewolf lore. Or even digging into spellcasters. Or about some of the hidden Sims like the hermit that lives in the hidden valley and why they're there.

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Před rokem +32

      How about Jim Pickens

    • @eurovianmutt
      @eurovianmutt Před rokem +8

      Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing lore

    • @Darke_Exelbirth
      @Darke_Exelbirth Před rokem +5

      @@MajorBaker-vz9go The lore of Pickens is a convoluted web, a mystery wrapped in a conundrum, basted in intrigue.

    • @MajorBaker-vz9go
      @MajorBaker-vz9go Před rokem +2

      @@Darke_Exelbirth which makes it perfect for theories.

    • @dylanhodgson7605
      @dylanhodgson7605 Před rokem

      @@Darke_Exelbirth Matpat will end up in the painting basement

  • @piotrwarrior557
    @piotrwarrior557 Před rokem +7

    He needs to talk about Olive Specter in The Sims 2 and all the tombstones behind her house. (Fun fact: from her name you can make the sentence "i lOve Specter")

  • @Lil_Why
    @Lil_Why Před rokem +1

    Im so new to the backstories…. It’s blowing my mind! So much information to delve into without getting lost! This is making me fall I love all over again with sims ☺️❤️

  • @julia-so5jo
    @julia-so5jo Před rokem +772

    As someone who had a phase where I was obsessed with Sims lore, my personal favorite explanation is the one Plumbella covers in her “Bella Goth Mystery Solved” video (not the exact title but if you search that you’ll find it). It ties everything together without having to make any leaps that are too far and explains other mysteries like the identities of Mathilde Goth and Lolita Goth (the first being a sim in the Sims 3 with seemingly no connection to the family but looking exactly like Bella, and the latter being a sim in the Goth’s graveyard not found on the family tree) and even why The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r Před rokem +6

      I assume this is the old video then. Does it has the same conclusion with Mattpat? If you mind spoiling me a bit

    • @trickskitauknow7744
      @trickskitauknow7744 Před rokem +48

      I'd like to say that I also like quite Plumbella's video but also without context, from your comment alone, you saying that there are no leaps then following it up with "The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe" is really funny to me.

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Před rokem +3

      @@trickskitauknow7744 yeah lol

    • @kaitlynlorentzen4375
      @kaitlynlorentzen4375 Před rokem +14

      @@trickskitauknow7744 but the Sims 4 is an alternate universe. There is no correlation with the original lore anywhere in the fourth game. For example, Bella never disappeared, Don Lothario is a serial romantic but has no relationship with Cassandra which makes sense since she's a teen and he's a young adult. The Caliente sisters aren't even aliens and although there is still quite a lot of drama surrounding all these characters, there is no backstory suggesting that the abduction ever happened. So it's not a leap, I'm pretty sure it's canon or in reality extreme laziness on EAs part so that they didn't have to continue that storyline.

    • @Philmccracken790
      @Philmccracken790 Před rokem +3

      @@trickskitauknow7744 it's canon that the sims 4 is in an alternate universe but the theory tries to explain why that happened, it ties everything together and even makes the sims 4 make sense with the theory

  • @nuzhatmaliat9258
    @nuzhatmaliat9258 Před rokem +411

    maybe bella's books in ts3 is what led to her surviving in ts4, so ts4 isnt an alternate universe but an alternate timeline. she avoided the caliente traps via reading those books and getting the hint in childhood (ts3) , so instead of settling in pleasantview where the sisters would come, the couple settled in willow creek, and she convinced mort to take writer career instead of scientist (therefore he wont invent elixir of life and the sisters wont target him). That explains why her ts3 bedroom is so unusually emo/gothic, she knew too many dark stuff for her age (her future tragedy). Not to mention, she's in secret intelligence career in ts4, which now makes more sense bc she prolly needed connections and special info to pull this whole stunt between timeliness to save herself/avoid repercussions for already changing her fate/bust the calientes for their abduction attempts bc normal law enforcement wont believe her

    • @ellyhunter7252
      @ellyhunter7252 Před rokem +5

      Yes!

    • @cpt.mystic_stirling
      @cpt.mystic_stirling Před rokem +6

      The plot thickens

    • @alicemichaelis9468
      @alicemichaelis9468 Před rokem +8

      O.M.G!!
      I haven’t played Sims including Sims 4 in 1.5 years but this video and your comment makes me at least wanna continue with Goth Family lol.

    • @idkbalvan6303
      @idkbalvan6303 Před rokem +4

      but if the ts4 is an alternate timeline, how do you explain the existence of Katrina Caliente, their 'mom'? It might just be that the devs were lazy or the fact that the original creator stepped out of the franchise after EA bought it, but before ts4 Nighat Caliente had always been their mom.

    • @secretlybees
      @secretlybees Před rokem

      This would be cool, but the world Lunar Lakes where Bella was sent was in the future, not the past. Matpat missed that. So, the books probably weren't by her, but could actually be by Alexander Goth if his father married Dina and Alexander somehow ended up with their alien tech.

  • @babymagan1993
    @babymagan1993 Před 6 měsíci

    YOU ARE MY FAVOURITE PERSON THAT MAKES VIDEOS I AM SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS

  • @alexiasepia2740
    @alexiasepia2740 Před rokem +1

    Matpat you have to dig deeper in sims lore! You'll find so much cool stuff, specially in the spin-offs!!

  • @bare_bear_hands
    @bare_bear_hands Před rokem +999

    In TS4, Nina Caliente is almost always met on the first day you start a game.
    She's actively keeping tabs on everyone in town 🤔

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Před rokem +50

      It depends on where you live. Because when I start a new game in San Myshuno it's just Penny who shows up.

    • @akarimonet
      @akarimonet Před rokem +39

      @@MissSimone02 plot twist penny and Nina working together

    • @MissSimone02
      @MissSimone02 Před rokem +23

      @@akarimonet 😂😂😂 imagine Penny posting it to her like 200k followers is hilarious.

    • @totallynotshort9170
      @totallynotshort9170 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@akarimonetoogg

    • @hstochla
      @hstochla Před 3 měsíci +1

      The Sims 4 isn’t part of the timeline that the rest of the series is in

  • @SuperTigger2012
    @SuperTigger2012 Před rokem +656

    “Bella disappeared without even a dagdag”….welcome to the lore of sims. I’m sooooo here for it!!! 🤩🤩

    • @thaliacrafts407
      @thaliacrafts407 Před rokem +20

      "Dag dag" means "bye bye" in Dutch and I was genuinely confused for a moment

    • @SuperTigger2012
      @SuperTigger2012 Před rokem +16

      @@thaliacrafts407 oh wow, I never knew this! I figured simlish had a bunch of languages and gibberish thrown in together lol.

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 Před rokem +4

      The simish caught me by surprise.

    • @ThatNoobKing
      @ThatNoobKing Před rokem +7

      @@SuperTigger2012 oh no
      So simlish is just minion speak

    • @SuperTigger2012
      @SuperTigger2012 Před rokem

      @@ThatNoobKing prettyyyyyyyy SIMilar lolol

  • @Livi-chan435-xq6vy
    @Livi-chan435-xq6vy Před měsícem +1

    Matpat can find lore in anything at this point

    • @zzombiedogg
      @zzombiedogg Před měsícem +1

      well he didnt really find the lore here. sims townies have always had lore and backstories

  • @Mefunny84
    @Mefunny84 Před rokem +12

    The older his episodes get
    The better they get

  • @jewelhenson3034
    @jewelhenson3034 Před rokem +874

    Y'know I played a Sims game on the PSP, it was from the 2 generation and the intro shows Bella running away and giving you the keys to her home. It's odd but she's terrified of the town she lives in and no longer wishes to be there. There's ghosts living in the house you receive, and lots of strange things happening. It's interesting to play to say the least.

    • @FriskyFive
      @FriskyFive Před rokem +59

      I played this, I thought it was a fever dream to be honest, I was just about to ask for a theory on that😂

    • @makeupbybabybear5352
      @makeupbybabybear5352 Před rokem +22

      I loved the sims 2 on psp

    • @CaityRaindrop
      @CaityRaindrop Před rokem +45

      The psp version also reveals secrets and 2 of hers are basically that she never loved mortimer and married him for money

    • @athrowawayperson9990
      @athrowawayperson9990 Před rokem +25

      Unfortunately we have confirmation that the spin-off games are non-canon, iirc.

    • @menolade
      @menolade Před rokem +6

      I played that one too. It was really interesting especially the plotline with the robot wife and a cow cult

  • @KamawnTH
    @KamawnTH Před rokem +1243

    "The average humans pupil grows by 55% if they are excited"
    Matpat when he hears backstory in a no lore game: ⚫ ⚫

  • @missCaution8
    @missCaution8 Před rokem +1

    This is an amazing video. You definitely got my sub!

  • @StygianNightmare
    @StygianNightmare Před rokem

    Fantastic work as always my guys!! Love this so so so much!

  • @MikaelaKMajorHistory
    @MikaelaKMajorHistory Před rokem +651

    Finally MatPat! There’s so much lore in the Sims franchise. Can’t believe you haven’t covered this! (Then again, many many others already have.)

  • @beble895
    @beble895 Před rokem +394

    if anyone's interested in a super extensive deep-dive on other sims mysteries, you should check out Plumbella's "entire history of" series!

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Před rokem +11

      yes! the bella explanation that plumbella made a video on is by FAR my favorite explanation and the one that makes the most sense to me

    • @beble895
      @beble895 Před rokem +5

      @@julia-so5jo I trust Plumbella’s sims lore more than anyone else’s tbh :’)

    • @julia-so5jo
      @julia-so5jo Před rokem

      @@beble895 me too lol

    • @sltrskid
      @sltrskid Před rokem +2

      buh buh buh but she's buh buh british

    • @brandonevans3994
      @brandonevans3994 Před rokem +3

      @@sltrskid yup sorry can’t really trust their theories if their British lol

  • @TheOG-GG
    @TheOG-GG Před 4 měsíci +1

    Finally you are doing SIMS THEORY! On Sims lore!! FINALLY! Do one on simlish songs too or Simlish itself? :D There is so much more Sims lore to dig through!!

  • @museumofskulls2972
    @museumofskulls2972 Před rokem

    I'd love to see more Sims theories from you guys!

  • @pachunky
    @pachunky Před rokem +397

    OH MY GOD I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D GUYS EVER COVER THE SIMS

  • @reposkull2550
    @reposkull2550 Před rokem +452

    Now we just need matpat to breakdown the lore of the puppet combo games

  • @margaridaguerreiro802

    OMG! I just love this theory. Explains everything we'be been so eager to find out.

  • @2aar3qr2
    @2aar3qr2 Před 5 měsíci

    I love how matpat finishes theory's that have been unsolved for years in a few minutes

  • @DittoAPokemon
    @DittoAPokemon Před rokem +224

    So what’s also important about lunar lakes is it’s actually in the future, ahead of sims 2. And Bella has a descendent in that world.

  • @707Honeypot
    @707Honeypot Před rokem +216

    Im so happy MatPat covered the Sims. It is one of my favorite games and I’d love for him to cover more mysteries from it, like Tragic Clowns, how magic is treated in the sims games, and other fun storylines

  • @paigelee933
    @paigelee933 Před rokem

    MatPat and my favorite game??!! the blessing I didn’t know I needed😭

  • @firenomad
    @firenomad Před rokem +5

    This is the best thing I have ever watched! Freaking hilarious and why Goths will always be my favorites lmao

  • @kingofpilgrims368
    @kingofpilgrims368 Před rokem +211

    I won’t lie, I would take Bella from her house by woo-ing her and convincing her to leave Mortimer on multiple occasions. that pencil thin mustache just always made me see him as a villain 😅

  • @eddyiguess4286
    @eddyiguess4286 Před rokem +242

    Can you please do more Sims theories? Something about the life and history of these simulated games is really incredible with how much depth the creators put into the lore

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      @josephedee4808 Před rokem

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    • @linalokir2178
      @linalokir2178 Před rokem

      @@josephedee4808 truee

  • @RockinRoyaltyx3
    @RockinRoyaltyx3 Před rokem +1

    This theory has been out for a bit in the sims community. But I like how concisive and easy to follow this was compared to others who have come to the same conclusion. If you aren't a simmer it might be terribly confusing otherwise. Great video!

  • @Mishlof
    @Mishlof Před rokem

    stumbled across your channel, with this theory...mind blow. Well done

  • @CherryCheetah
    @CherryCheetah Před rokem +212

    The Sims 2 had some wild lore - especially the Strangetown sims like Olive Specter and her graveyard garden and secret son who may or may not be the Nervous Subject (there are two of them), or the sim who married alien who abducted her father. But then there's Brandi who got pregnant with her husband after he died. So much to explore!

    • @beccawiegers6454
      @beccawiegers6454 Před rokem +14

      Not to mention Nervous subject's genes being a literal clone of the grim reaper.

  • @iitskyle
    @iitskyle Před rokem +155

    Only tiny flaw here is that Alexander did actually travel to the past too! I think its in the DS game where Alexander is all grown up and married to a girl called Cecilia Goth but its set before the events of the sims franchise. So its theorised that he wrote the books in the hopes that it may change the course of events in the future and stop Bella from being abducted in the first place. Sims 4 is meant to be set on an alternate timeline which could very well be the one created due to Alexanders actions.

  • @williamedwards4151
    @williamedwards4151 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like the idea that Bella got the last laugh and her efforts in the past changed the timeline and resulted in Sims 4 where Bella and her family are fine and the Caliente sisters are still stuck with Don and no longer a threat.

  • @xarenanotmyrealname4134
    @xarenanotmyrealname4134 Před rokem +8

    I do wish he would do theory's for other Sims backstory's but I feel like that's not really going to happen.

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks Před rokem +817

    I'm so happy MatPat covered the Sims

  • @myr996
    @myr996 Před rokem +526

    Bella is for sure the most known Sims Lore mistery, but there is a LOT more. There is even a channel devoted to it.
    I dare MatPat to uncover Lolita Goth or the hidden cloned misteries

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk Před rokem

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    • @tumblingstarmoonchild
      @tumblingstarmoonchild Před rokem +11

      Lolita Goth??? 👀👀👀👀

    • @nova-qs6th
      @nova-qs6th Před rokem +9

      Oh what's the channel name?

    • @adammorin2955
      @adammorin2955 Před rokem +2

      What i want to know is how is bella goth in sims 4? Is sims 4 between 3 and 1 or after 2

    • @jooniesjjk1047
      @jooniesjjk1047 Před rokem +13

      @@adammorin2955 i think EA said the sims 4 is a completely different timeline 😬

  • @Thedueloquat233
    @Thedueloquat233 Před rokem +1

    OH MY GOD MY JAW DROPPED THROUGH THIS WHOLE VIDEO

  • @heykatlin
    @heykatlin Před rokem +1

    Please keep doing sims lore the
    Amount within the game is insane!

  • @drei-rg9zc
    @drei-rg9zc Před rokem +269

    Finally! You made a theory about The Sims. This game has a lot of somewhat hidden lore in the background that I hope to see more theories like this in the future!

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  • @taylorwalker7417
    @taylorwalker7417 Před rokem +225

    The different mechanics The Sims uses to hide lore is so fun and creative! Plus, there's some surprisingly dark/intricate stuff hidden in those games (Princess Cordelia, Greg and the Occult Wars, and Agnes Crumplebottom to name a few😨) I hope this becomes a regular go-to!

    • @natara2046
      @natara2046 Před rokem +1

      This needs more likes

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    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Před rokem

      Biggest Lore in Sims: Player tortures Everybody~

    • @davidarvingumazon5024
      @davidarvingumazon5024 Před rokem

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  • @johnathanegbert9277
    @johnathanegbert9277 Před rokem +2

    You should do some videos on SPORE!
    It may have a whole series' worth of lore!

  • @anarzchyzz
    @anarzchyzz Před 5 měsíci

    This is probably one of the best theories I've seen based off the intro lol 🔥🔥

  • @LaurenTheorist
    @LaurenTheorist Před rokem +170

    I love this, but I'm confused why MatPat kept mentioning that the Goths had Cassandra but forgetting poor Alex. 😂 Also, he should look into the Sims 4! It's the 'fixed' timeline.

    • @urieldaboamorte
      @urieldaboamorte Před rokem +17

      the sims 4 is just an alternate timeline. I don't think anyone in the community considers it canon

    • @Angel_principe_Art
      @Angel_principe_Art Před rokem +11

      Yeah, the sims 4 is an alternate timeline.
      It goes sims 3, sims 1, and sims 2 in the original timeline

    • @LaurenTheorist
      @LaurenTheorist Před rokem +5

      Yeah, that's why I said 'fixed'. The Goth family is together again, but I don't know if I would say this alternate reality is better or worse than the original. 🤔

    • @wig.snatcher
      @wig.snatcher Před rokem +7

      how about just ignoring existence of the sims 4

  • @GippyHappy
    @GippyHappy Před rokem +1416

    Mat: This mystery has plagued the fandom for years, what happened to Bella?!?
    The game: ....she's right here-
    Mat: WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPPENED TO HER
    the game: we wrote a whole thing where she says exactly what ha-
    Mat: I'VE CRACKED THE CASE

    • @chickenmuppets6746
      @chickenmuppets6746 Před rokem +189

      he covered that bro his theory is Literally “she got abducted by aliens but more specifically these are the aliens who did it and this is what they did with her”

    • @urieldaboamorte
      @urieldaboamorte Před rokem +112

      I love MatPat but this video was so dishonest. He just reproduced the community's consensus as if it was a new thing. "Don Lotario has always been the spotlight for fan theories, the Caliente sisters only appear sparsely. But we've done it differently!". I mean, seriously?

    • @dusantrifunovic2047
      @dusantrifunovic2047 Před rokem

      @Eluwina HOW STRONG IS YOUR DAD'S BELT?!

    • @shadowx8145
      @shadowx8145 Před rokem

      @@urieldaboamorte the comment above yours is the honest one. You're dishonest

    • @GamerBoyGreen
      @GamerBoyGreen Před rokem +14

      Tbf if they were just aliens they wouldn't be other versions of her in the previous games.

  • @minimouette
    @minimouette Před 4 měsíci +1

    Dude, the switch of tone from the intro to the sponsor part made me jump 😂

  • @daynascalone7937
    @daynascalone7937 Před rokem

    The Sim City OG from '89 was and still is one of my favorite. Mmmmm, city planning. Love it!