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  • čas přidán 7. 05. 2019
  • #gatecse #ds #algorithm #recursiontree #recurrences #appliedgate #gate2022
    Subject Name: Data Structures and Algorithms
    Chapter Name: Solving Recurrences
    Topic Name: Recursion Tree
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Komentáře • 123

  • @manishakhatri3369
    @manishakhatri3369 Před 2 lety +16

    I have some doubts as follows:
    1. why we have not included log4n, and the final result would be n^2 log4n
    2. The series should start from 3n/4 , 9n/16, .... so on, so in that case formula should change
    3. why we have considered infinite series and why not finite(n) series?

    • @yevgeniydiriyenko4457
      @yevgeniydiriyenko4457 Před 2 lety +4

      because this picture is missing a little bit of data, at node one as you can easily see we start at n/4. thus T(n/4) = (n/4)^2. (we get this from the n^2 term) this represents the first step whilst it shows and looks like 3n/4 it's actually 3T(n/4) so do the math
      at the first part of this tree n/16 + n/16 + n/16 = 3n/16
      next step is T(n/16) this results in (3n/16)^2 = 9n/16^2
      this gives us the sum formula of (3/16)^i * n^2 *c
      once again look at the tree
      n/4 n/4 n/4
      n/16 n/16 n/16 n/16 n/16 n/16 n/16 n/16 n/16
      what's implied is:
      (n/4)^2 + (n/4)^2 + (n/4)^2 = 3n/16 at step one
      =(n/16)^2 + (n/16)^2 + (n/16)^2 , (n/16)^2 + (n/16)^2 + (n/16)^2 , (n/16)^2 + (n/16)^2 + (n/16)^2
      again the reason you square is because the function seems to be order of n^2
      at step two this results in: (3/16)^2 = total of 9 n^2 / 256
      at next step: (3/16)^3
      so on and so forth you get the idea (3/16)^n
      your confusion as well as mine initially must be from the part where he shouws step one with n/4 *cn^2
      the right side should say 3/16*cn^2
      and the step two where he has n/16*cn^2 should say (3/16)^2*cn^2

    • @mattn.8941
      @mattn.8941 Před 2 lety +5

      Based on my textbook and explanations from my professor, I think you're right and that this video is incorrect.

    • @rizwanmuhammad6468
      @rizwanmuhammad6468 Před 2 lety

      You mean 3 times (n^2)/16. And so on

  • @mohamedsharif2269
    @mohamedsharif2269 Před 2 lety +15

    The best teachers are the passionate ones. Thanks for the contribution

  • @jatinsharma1915
    @jatinsharma1915 Před 3 lety +11

    In the geometric series, there are exactly log n base 4 terms. So why do we use infinite series formula here? Why not use the formula, Sum = a^m(r^m - 1)/(r+1), where m = number of terms in GP = log n base 4 in this example.

    • @kryddan
      @kryddan Před 2 lety +2

      I think it is a simplification to get rid of the log_4(n) factor in the exponent of the result you get when you use the geometric sum formula.
      It is just a way to bound it (from above).

  • @amaladiguna8873
    @amaladiguna8873 Před 3 lety +30

    I find myself smiling after learning this from you, thanks a lot!

  • @toddh2327
    @toddh2327 Před rokem +5

    Nice. Just went over this in class and you explained it better in a fraction of the time. Appreciate the work!

  • @yashwantthombre9297
    @yashwantthombre9297 Před 4 lety +8

    "nothing very fancy here" i love this line sir!
    and really there is nothing very fancy actually......

  • @Tanque95
    @Tanque95 Před 2 lety +3

    cn^2 is the time that takes to 'merge' the subproblems. And that is why T(n/4) = 3T(n/16) + c(n/4)^2 takes for each 3 subproblems c(n/4)^2 times 3 ===> 3/16 * cn^2.

  • @lunyi2671
    @lunyi2671 Před 3 lety +3

    best than any others. good to be teacher of cs

  • @chnihar4123
    @chnihar4123 Před 3 lety +8

    The best explanation I have ever witnessed.......hats off🙏

  • @emirulusoy579
    @emirulusoy579 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you! I couldn't understand it in other people's videos, but this was very descriptive. You have a logic-based approach that is far from memorized.

  • @chetan8395
    @chetan8395 Před 4 lety +3

    For those who have not convinced here is the my ans c.n^2(gp of 3/16 goes k times ). So waht is k here ? K= logn base 4 there for GP becomes c.n^2((3/16)^logn + constant ) as n goes to infinity 3/16 vanished or becomes close to zero

    • @tauheeddarekar6509
      @tauheeddarekar6509 Před 4 lety

      k is the depth of the tree and the geometric series which we get is the end until it becomes one so we considered that it is till infinity there is a difference bro

  • @benjaminagyekum7283
    @benjaminagyekum7283 Před 19 dny

    best explanation have been reading the Comen book but this is more like the comen book in a video form.

  • @amanshitta
    @amanshitta Před 4 lety +19

    how does the depth of the tree comes into play for this particular equation??

    • @sams7068
      @sams7068 Před 3 lety +3

      THIS IS A GUESS BY A CLUELESS ALGORITHMS STUDENT: I think it was disregarded because the growth rate provided by the depth is less than the growth rate provided by the series summation. If anyone has a better answer please reply because I'm worried about my midterm coming up!

    • @mukul-kr
      @mukul-kr Před 2 lety

      actually here we assumed that series is infinite but what happens really is that we go till the height of the tree. But it is very hard to solve so we assume this as an infinite gp. 😀

  • @akashprajapati1068
    @akashprajapati1068 Před 3 lety +6

    Shouldn't the root node be n^2?

  • @lucascamino8615
    @lucascamino8615 Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for sharing this! I found it very useful and well explained

  • @devendramishra5872
    @devendramishra5872 Před 2 lety +1

    why you taken theta not big O or omega .

  • @karimahmed-xt1mj
    @karimahmed-xt1mj Před 4 měsíci

    in my class the +cn^2 part
    we don't substitute with n ,we keep it as it is for the whole problem

  • @nishantbisht4296
    @nishantbisht4296 Před 2 lety +1

    ig it'll not be an ifintie tree becuz somwhere it will be n/2^k =1

  • @amanmishra-vt8hk
    @amanmishra-vt8hk Před 4 lety +4

    On 4:15 We are dividing it into 3 parts but on merging of these the part we are not getting it as full......
    n/4+n/4+n/4=3n/4 which is not equal to n...... Is not a problem? I am getting confusion can you plz tell me what is it?

    • @abcdxx1059
      @abcdxx1059 Před 4 lety

      same

    • @Kirmeins
      @Kirmeins Před 4 lety +3

      Whatever an actual algorithm does which implements this recursion: the "missing" part is obiously not needed anymore for the solution. A quarter gets *removed* so to say because it is irrelevant to what the algorithm is doing. The sum of the subproblems must not be equal to n. The equation tells you, what value T(n) is going to have if you insert n into function T (T(n) is a notation for: Function T applied on value n). Think of it like any other function f: X->Y with f(x) = y. x is not nessecarily equal to y, but the function f applied on x is exactly y!

  • @kavitabhatt2811
    @kavitabhatt2811 Před 2 lety +2

    Great way of explaining anything....thanks a lot sir😊

  • @daniaayad5874
    @daniaayad5874 Před 4 měsíci

    that was a very good video thanks alot

  • @karteek9695
    @karteek9695 Před 2 lety +4

    But you ignored the floor function in this question . Will the answer still be the same if you consider the floor function ? If not, what changes have to be done ?
    Great explanation though .

    • @ryanross7785
      @ryanross7785 Před 2 měsíci

      answer still same, the reason you floor it is to account for odd number n's so its a fine technical detail that gets lost in the big O notation. I wish i understood it well enough to explain but I dont so trust me, you can ignore all floor and cieling notations here.

  • @talhaturkumozkurt8052
    @talhaturkumozkurt8052 Před 3 lety +9

    "Let's assume it's not floor, just n/4"
    *question ends*
    What did we do with it

  • @muratcansenturk2275
    @muratcansenturk2275 Před 2 lety

    It is very simple, hello from Turkey

  • @Ashmole3
    @Ashmole3 Před 2 lety +1

    This was very helpful but why did you conclude that it was theta n^2 instead of O n^2?

  • @aditya-wh7fh
    @aditya-wh7fh Před rokem +2

    Why theta tho ?

  • @pravalikabasam3370
    @pravalikabasam3370 Před 2 lety +1

    What about floor function? Why did we simply ignore it?

  • @shashankjoshi8250
    @shashankjoshi8250 Před 6 měsíci

    Hello Sir, Why it is not theta(n^2 logn_4) ? In merge sort we have nlogn_2

  • @dynamicsid8795
    @dynamicsid8795 Před 3 lety

    One of best way to teach this topic👍♥️

  • @saisantoshvasamsetti3450
    @saisantoshvasamsetti3450 Před 8 měsíci

    Will the recurrence tree method always give theta bound, or on which basis have u confirmed that it is. Theeta

  • @persianwaffle
    @persianwaffle Před 3 lety

    YOU'RE BREATHTAKING. THANK YOU

  • @GOODBOY-vt1cf
    @GOODBOY-vt1cf Před 2 lety +1

    12:20

  • @lamaschool
    @lamaschool Před rokem

    it is so nice thanks but i confused why you did not chosen the root cn square because you chose the root to be n only ?

  • @ajmalkhaniit
    @ajmalkhaniit Před 4 lety +1

    Sir your explanation way is awesome!

  • @AnjaliSingh-yk9jv
    @AnjaliSingh-yk9jv Před 3 lety

    Amazing.... In bihari style Garda 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @gello95
    @gello95 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much!!! Magnificent explanation.

  • @anamika9479
    @anamika9479 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanku so much finally I understand the whole thing..

  • @laszlomattern
    @laszlomattern Před 20 dny

    Thank you so much!

  • @arminkrahbar
    @arminkrahbar Před 2 lety +1

    You forgot to multiply it with the height log4n. so the answer should be O(n^2 log4n). Am I wrong?

    • @badsanta7356
      @badsanta7356 Před rokem

      Yes you're wrong. He added the terms at each level manually into a series so there's no point in multiplying with log4(n).
      For example if you have to add 1,2,3,4 ; after doing 1+2+3+4, you don't need to multiply it with the number of terms.

  • @nickadams2361
    @nickadams2361 Před 3 lety +1

    this problem is straight from introduction to algorithms edition three page 89.

    • @GATEAppliedCourse
      @GATEAppliedCourse  Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, it is. This course is based heavily on Introduction to Algorithms by CLRS as we mentioned at the at the very beginning of this course.

  • @tusharsharma6518
    @tusharsharma6518 Před rokem

    But why did we find height of tree as we haven't used it....?

  • @tusharverma2287
    @tusharverma2287 Před 3 lety +1

    Why did you used theta not Big O?

  • @parvathipradeep5218
    @parvathipradeep5218 Před 5 měsíci

    Sir why we use theta here instead of other notations

  • @kenzou776
    @kenzou776 Před 4 lety +2

    thank you so much. this has helped a TON

  • @068_gauravchakraborty
    @068_gauravchakraborty Před 2 lety

    great explanation sir

  • @jacobhansen3871
    @jacobhansen3871 Před 2 lety +1

    How do you combine [n/64, n/64, n/64] into n/16^2?

    • @rahulnegi4618
      @rahulnegi4618 Před 2 lety

      In the recurrence relation: cn^2 is nothing but the time taken to combine the divided parts into one.
      Now if we look at this part where each problem was divided into n/64. When we put n = n/16 we get from the recurrence equation that each part of the n/16th sub problem is divided into (1/16)*(n/4) i.e. n/64. Further we require c*(n/64)^2 (i.e. after putting n = n/16) time to convert these n/64 sub problems into n/16 problem.
      hope it helps. If not reply.

  • @laszlomattern
    @laszlomattern Před 23 dny

    Thank you !

  • @digirocksstore2307
    @digirocksstore2307 Před rokem

    At level 1 it took cn² the n²/16 at level 2 WHY???

  • @khalismurfid162
    @khalismurfid162 Před 3 lety

    OMG You just saved my life sir

  • @ayrtontv6025
    @ayrtontv6025 Před 2 lety +1

    16^2 doesn't equal 64. I think you mean 4^3

  • @ritabrataroychowdhury8958

    One question if we are given T(n) = 8/6T(6n/7) + 7/6T(n/7) + cn then how to draw the tree

    • @taadusingh7026
      @taadusingh7026 Před 2 lety

      It's been 5 months, but answering it for others... In this we exclude the time complexity due to 7/6T(n/7) as time consumed is less compared to 8/6T(6n/7). So the final answer will include the time complexity due to 8/6T(6n/7)

  • @rchtchauhan
    @rchtchauhan Před 3 lety

    I am not getting the concept how cn^2 time to combine

  • @naitech9003
    @naitech9003 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this bit of information!

  • @aris.konstantinidis
    @aris.konstantinidis Před 3 lety

    thank you so much! pure gold

  • @manaliredkar5057
    @manaliredkar5057 Před 3 lety

    Good job explaining!!

  • @TheSkyCries1
    @TheSkyCries1 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much, this was super helpful

  • @SumitKumar-ru7kb
    @SumitKumar-ru7kb Před 4 lety

    Great Explanation.

  • @kells9k
    @kells9k Před rokem +2

    Very good video! Helping me for studying for my midterm tomorrow tremendously. What software are you guys using to draw like that with the toolbar on the bottom? Thanks again :)

  • @jannatulshapna232
    @jannatulshapna232 Před 4 lety

    you saved my life .thank you

  • @subarnasubedi7938
    @subarnasubedi7938 Před 4 lety

    This is not a infinite sum to use the formula a/(1-r) , did you use it as infinite series considering infinity to be upper bound??

    • @sumitroy9737
      @sumitroy9737 Před 4 lety +2

      For time complexity, we always consider large input size. So n is large here. So no of terms log(n) base 3 is also large. So there are large no of terms(almost infinite for large n).

  • @shrey356
    @shrey356 Před 4 lety +8

    Shouldn't the answer be (n^2 x logn)

  • @Fahodinho
    @Fahodinho Před 3 lety

    8:22 what's the point of the depth

  • @stupidPeopleRBored
    @stupidPeopleRBored Před 4 lety +2

    how does n/4 + n/4 + n/4 = cn^2. until this is clear....nothing in the rest of this video makes any sense. i think that is where this video is failing to teach. thanks for the effort though. i have to find another resource though.

    • @Kirmeins
      @Kirmeins Před 4 lety +8

      he never says it's equal to cn²! He says the problem of n is broken into three parts of size n/4 PLUS cn²! It's right there in the equation and he keeps saying our three-part subproblems must be *combined with* cn². If you do not listen closely enough you'll have problems with other resources as well! ;)

    • @sushant3209
      @sushant3209 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Kirmeins its very nice and respectful of you to explain him, answer him and help him clear his doubts. But your reply was a little abrasive.

    • @Tanque95
      @Tanque95 Před 2 lety

      cn^2 is the time that takes to 'merge' the subproblems. And that is why T(n/4) = 3T(n/16) + c(n/4)^2 takes for each 3 subproblems c(n/4)^2 times 3 ===> 3/16 * cn^2.

  • @digirocksstore2307
    @digirocksstore2307 Před rokem

    Why not n²/4 in level 1

  • @user-tx3mo1ez2n
    @user-tx3mo1ez2n Před 3 lety

    Very helpful.

  • @ashifkhan
    @ashifkhan Před 4 lety

    Bro you made my day 😍💥

  • @sarbjotarora4762
    @sarbjotarora4762 Před 4 lety +1

    Sir, which tool u are using to explain this video.

  • @pavelbiswas3963
    @pavelbiswas3963 Před 5 lety +6

    I think 16 sqr = 256 not 64

  • @ahmetkarakartal9563
    @ahmetkarakartal9563 Před 2 lety

    thank you so much

  • @EduAnmoldeep
    @EduAnmoldeep Před 3 lety

    What is the name of this thing, by which you draw and screen share, record and all stuff???

  • @mehdi-vl5nn
    @mehdi-vl5nn Před 2 lety

    it should be t(n/4) = t(n/4*4) +c(n/4)^2 not c(n/16)^2

  • @nikitasinha8181
    @nikitasinha8181 Před 4 lety

    Thank u so much sir 🙏

  • @ranirathore4176
    @ranirathore4176 Před 3 lety

    one more method is akra bazii method for solving this

  • @Yeeezy
    @Yeeezy Před 3 lety

    Thank you

  • @krishnaprasad3350
    @krishnaprasad3350 Před 4 lety +1

    Why is the summation carried out till infinity when we know that it goes till log4(n)?

    • @Kirmeins
      @Kirmeins Před 4 lety

      n might be infinite though, right?

    • @avk5277
      @avk5277 Před 3 lety +2

      its a convergent series.A convergent series may have an infinite number of terms but will always converge to a finite value.

  • @el3csense
    @el3csense Před 6 měsíci

    My professor would only say: On this step, if you don't know what to do, go back and review your calculus I material XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • @louerleseigneur4532
    @louerleseigneur4532 Před 4 lety

    Thanks sir ji

  • @bagoferaserss
    @bagoferaserss Před 3 lety

    why is it 9cn^2/16^2 instead of 9cn^2/64 ??

  • @divyanshudwivedi8452
    @divyanshudwivedi8452 Před 3 lety

    But series is not infinite😕 how can we use 1/1-r

    • @ayseberilcevik1926
      @ayseberilcevik1926 Před 2 lety

      suppose that a(n) is a geometric serial with constant "r" , we use S(n) = a(1).(1 - r^n)/(1 -r)

  • @vinayaksharma-ys3ip
    @vinayaksharma-ys3ip Před 2 lety

    💯💯💯👍

  • @toanpham4110
    @toanpham4110 Před 2 lety

  • @girijavarma5271
    @girijavarma5271 Před 3 lety

    why theta not big O? at end.

    • @ryanross7785
      @ryanross7785 Před 2 měsíci

      You can also use big O instead of theta. If something is both O(n) and theta(n) it means its an asyptotically tight bound, which is the goal when finding a bound. If its not clear what I mean, consider this: everything that is O(n) is also O(n^2) and O(n^3) and O(n^4) and everything that is asymptotically larger than O(n), but O(n) is the bound you choose because it is the closest bound to the function at hand. How do you know if your bound is the closest? It will have the same theta and big O bound (in my example, that would be O(n) and theta(n)).

  • @saisameer780
    @saisameer780 Před 4 lety +1

    Your voice is like rajamouli

  • @ankiTKumar-cl7yt
    @ankiTKumar-cl7yt Před 4 lety +2

    Sir please solve this. Problem
    T(n)=2T(n-1)+T(n/2)+n
    Using recursion tree method

    • @sahanasshenoy8878
      @sahanasshenoy8878 Před 4 lety +1

      Have you taken this question from any sources? I am wondering How can I break a problem of n into 2 problems of size (n-1) each recursivly and again n/2 ? and combine it with O(n) time??

    • @sahanasshenoy8878
      @sahanasshenoy8878 Před 4 lety

      imagine you have an array of size 4 and now according to your recurrence equation, it will be divided in 3,3,2 Can this be a case?

  • @bhaskarpandey8586
    @bhaskarpandey8586 Před 3 lety

    Watch at x2

  • @mazenhachem146
    @mazenhachem146 Před 3 měsíci

    IF I PASS MY FINAL TMRW IM GONNA MARRY YOU