@alexanderstefanov6474 the car market (used and new) is crazy. I was talking to one of my Polish viewers recently about an F15 BMW X5 xDrive25d. A decent one still costs 25k euro here in Poland. For a 10 year old car!!! With a 2 liter diesel.
Typical Jeep and Stelantis: looks a million bucks but not well engineered and not well screwed together. But as you rightly point out at the end: same with JLR.
The front passenger can watch videos.... god forbid people talked with each other....I'm so old fashioned. My kids and wife tell me about their week or day while we drive. Crazy. I think this car looks great but would expect it to have a lot of issues. So Toyota Land cruiser or Lexus GS incoming.
I just got this Jeep as a rental with 7k miles on it. For the first time in my life, I'm thinking to return a rental. Probably the worst car I've ever driven for normal road driving, not even comparable to say a Jeep Wrangler. The combination of the gas and electric motor is beyond jerky. It's like they both have a will of their own, and Jeep has done exactly nothing to combine them, completely detached from any driving inputs. Add to this the suspension which makes you feel like you are on a boat. You CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT drive this car smoothly. Maybe if you only use electric power it works, but when the battery is near-empty and the car has to switch between the two engines the whole time, it's beyond bad. Just so you know: I'm driving large SUVs regularly, and this is my 4th Jeep. I usually test-drive vehicles for extended periods of time (weeks).
That's some troublesome unit, I feel your pain. My experience, so far 6,000 miles, has been rather good. I drive the base model, so no air-suspension, no extra cameras, no real wood, no cooled seats, no fancy leather, just plain 18 inch wheels, but the rest is just the same. This is a company vehicle, the 2023 model and I have no real complains. To me it's the king of the highway, very quiet, no jerky stuff, fast & comfy at the same time. It is overpriced, but that can be said for the most cars today. It's not purchased but rather a company lease, and probably that's the way to go with these kind of unproven models. Because it's a hybrid there are subsidies available (it'll vary per country) and in the end this one was like over $12,000 off with the dealership discounts, etc. At that price it's a no-brainer, it's leased so no worries about expensive repairs. It seems that some folks don't really understand how this car works, at least from the complains I read about. This car's battery is never completely drained, even when the display shows 0% charge left, it still keeps some "unreported" charge left for sudden acceleration, taking off, highway passing or whatever. I rarely plug it in to charge it, as the hotels I stay in usually don't have any EV chargers. But I can have it charged as I go, usually on the long stretches' of highway, I have Max Regen on all the time, which does affect the brakes feel until you get used to it. There are no more V-8 engines available with this model, and my take is that this is better than the V-6 equipped units. My 2 cents anyway.
Some obvious points: One, you can't simply combine the various power output numbers to get a grand total because that's not what is actually delivered as usable power; Two, the 4xe is useless for off-road work because the charge vanishes rapidly and then you're left with a woefully under-powered 2 liter engine that simply can't push the Jeep through mud or sand. The 4xe is a marketing package, not a proper off-road capable vehicle. So it's fine for a trip to the supermarket in the rain, but utterly useless as a real offroad vehicle. Imagine trying to power a winch with the 2L engine.... very sad, and let's hope Jeep puts the straight-six into at least the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk before too much longer. Otherwise Jeep will cease to be a credible provider of offroad vehicles.
1. As long as you're not stuck in mud, but simply crawling along a track, you're not using much of the electric energy, but you're getting benefits of extra torque. 2. If you're dune bashing, the petrol engine produces so much excess energy, it may just as well recharge the traction battery. 3. Since when does the winch run off of the engine? The winch is connected to the car's 12V battery, and 2L is plenty. Don't forget they're putting the same engine with and without the PHEV stuff in the Wrangler, and somehow I don't see Wrangler folks crying they can't winch themselves out, because they don't have a V6 under the bonnet. Speaking of which, the last time Grand Cherokee was powered by a straight six was 20 years ago.
It looks like you didn't really had a chance to drive it. The one I drive (base, no-luxury model, no air-suspension) is rather good and I'm liking it quite a bit. You're wrong saying that it's not good off-road, check more videos. It's actually best off-road in the electric mode as it's going slow & steady & surreally quiet. This is the king of the highway type of a vehicle, that can also climb rocks, go sands, mud and a shopping mall all the same. Overpriced just like anything else, but with the current incentives the price came down and it's a prime vehicle to lease.
😐. Stuur 16.16 min I wonder: is this SUV not just a wannabe? 🥱. It does not excel in anything, if I hear you correctly. 😵💫. You're one of the rare reviewers reviewing this rig. 👏🏻👏🏻. Your music is spot-on. 👌💪🏻😎
I don't think there's a big demand for this in Europe, hence very few reviews. I took it for a test drive, because I find this car interesting, not because I expected many views :)
This is ridiculously expensive in the Uk.
I don't know what stellantis are smoking when it comes to their pricing. In no world can I imagine buying this over the new LandCruiser or Lexus gx550
Indeed. For some reason they believe Jeep is a premium brand in Europe.
@@MarekDrivesENGAlso in USA.
@@MarekDrivesENG the used market values doesn't seem to agree with their assessment
@alexanderstefanov6474 the car market (used and new) is crazy. I was talking to one of my Polish viewers recently about an F15 BMW X5 xDrive25d. A decent one still costs 25k euro here in Poland. For a 10 year old car!!! With a 2 liter diesel.
@@MarekDrivesENG Depends, I just bought an brand new Skoda Scala 2024 for a bit under 15k Euro in Romania, so the prices dropped a lot!
It's one way of throwing away £85k without having to buy a BEV
This is like a £50k car tops.
I'm not predicting success for them with this car, especially as the competition is both cheap and vastly better
@@adamburns1077 that buys a like new very low mileage 5.0 L405. I know which I'd rather have.
@@alexanderstefanov6474 Sure, I wouldn’t touch a modern day Jeep with a 10ft pole no matter the price tbh
This car is a lot better than previous generations
Typical Jeep and Stelantis: looks a million bucks but not well engineered and not well screwed together. But as you rightly point out at the end: same with JLR.
Stelantis has brought together some of the world's highest quality car firms. 😢
Yes, it's like that joke about hell being, where the lovers are German, engineers are Italians, and cooks are Belgian :)
@@MarekDrivesENG🤣🤣🤣
I don't think the UK market would consider a Jeep as "luxury"
I don't think anybody outside Jeep Europe marketing department would consider a Jeep as luxury :)
@@MarekDrivesENG too true😂
You have to turn on max regen to get best results
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Man, that price.
Love the grand cherokee. But the price 😂 and no diesel😢
Tell me about it
The front passenger can watch videos.... god forbid people talked with each other....I'm so old fashioned. My kids and wife tell me about their week or day while we drive. Crazy.
I think this car looks great but would expect it to have a lot of issues. So Toyota Land cruiser or Lexus GS incoming.
This thing will make a range rover look reliable
@@alexanderstefanov6474 LOL.
0:52. The colour is already chiped off. New car.
It's an off-road press car. I'm sure it was scratched and dented the first time it left the press office.
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Too expensive!
Better to watch for a Range Rover Sport.
I just got this Jeep as a rental with 7k miles on it. For the first time in my life, I'm thinking to return a rental. Probably the worst car I've ever driven for normal road driving, not even comparable to say a Jeep Wrangler. The combination of the gas and electric motor is beyond jerky. It's like they both have a will of their own, and Jeep has done exactly nothing to combine them, completely detached from any driving inputs. Add to this the suspension which makes you feel like you are on a boat. You CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT drive this car smoothly. Maybe if you only use electric power it works, but when the battery is near-empty and the car has to switch between the two engines the whole time, it's beyond bad. Just so you know: I'm driving large SUVs regularly, and this is my 4th Jeep. I usually test-drive vehicles for extended periods of time (weeks).
That's some troublesome unit, I feel your pain. My experience, so far 6,000 miles, has been rather good. I drive the base model, so no air-suspension, no extra cameras, no real wood, no cooled seats, no fancy leather, just plain 18 inch wheels, but the rest is just the same. This is a company vehicle, the 2023 model and I have no real complains. To me it's the king of the highway, very quiet, no jerky stuff, fast & comfy at the same time. It is overpriced, but that can be said for the most cars today. It's not purchased but rather a company lease, and probably that's the way to go with these kind of unproven models. Because it's a hybrid there are subsidies available (it'll vary per country) and in the end this one was like over $12,000 off with the dealership discounts, etc. At that price it's a no-brainer, it's leased so no worries about expensive repairs. It seems that some folks don't really understand how this car works, at least from the complains I read about. This car's battery is never completely drained, even when the display shows 0% charge left, it still keeps some "unreported" charge left for sudden acceleration, taking off, highway passing or whatever. I rarely plug it in to charge it, as the hotels I stay in usually don't have any EV chargers. But I can have it charged as I go, usually on the long stretches' of highway, I have Max Regen on all the time, which does affect the brakes feel until you get used to it. There are no more V-8 engines available with this model, and my take is that this is better than the V-6 equipped units. My 2 cents anyway.
I looked at one many years ago. The quality was poor and put me right off.
Overpriced, overcomplicated, unreliable junk. European complexity, American quality = headaches and large bills.
Great review though LOL
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Jeep or Land Rover - what a choice - both overpriced and both badly-made. I'd probably have a KIA / Hyundai - at least the Koreans don't overpromise.
Some obvious points: One, you can't simply combine the various power output numbers to get a grand total because that's not what is actually delivered as usable power; Two, the 4xe is useless for off-road work because the charge vanishes rapidly and then you're left with a woefully under-powered 2 liter engine that simply can't push the Jeep through mud or sand. The 4xe is a marketing package, not a proper off-road capable vehicle. So it's fine for a trip to the supermarket in the rain, but utterly useless as a real offroad vehicle. Imagine trying to power a winch with the 2L engine.... very sad, and let's hope Jeep puts the straight-six into at least the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk before too much longer. Otherwise Jeep will cease to be a credible provider of offroad vehicles.
1. As long as you're not stuck in mud, but simply crawling along a track, you're not using much of the electric energy, but you're getting benefits of extra torque.
2. If you're dune bashing, the petrol engine produces so much excess energy, it may just as well recharge the traction battery.
3. Since when does the winch run off of the engine? The winch is connected to the car's 12V battery, and 2L is plenty. Don't forget they're putting the same engine with and without the PHEV stuff in the Wrangler, and somehow I don't see Wrangler folks crying they can't winch themselves out, because they don't have a V6 under the bonnet.
Speaking of which, the last time Grand Cherokee was powered by a straight six was 20 years ago.
It looks like you didn't really had a chance to drive it. The one I drive (base, no-luxury model, no air-suspension) is rather good and I'm liking it quite a bit. You're wrong saying that it's not good off-road, check more videos. It's actually best off-road in the electric mode as it's going slow & steady & surreally quiet. This is the king of the highway type of a vehicle, that can also climb rocks, go sands, mud and a shopping mall all the same. Overpriced just like anything else, but with the current incentives the price came down and it's a prime vehicle to lease.
I dont like jeep but it shure that they ruined it!
😐. Stuur 16.16 min I wonder: is this SUV not just a wannabe? 🥱. It does not excel in anything, if I hear you correctly. 😵💫.
You're one of the rare reviewers reviewing this rig. 👏🏻👏🏻. Your music is spot-on. 👌💪🏻😎
I don't think there's a big demand for this in Europe, hence very few reviews. I took it for a test drive, because I find this car interesting, not because I expected many views :)