Strymon Iridium vs. Amps and miked Cabs - Audio Comparison (no talking)
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Here´s a comparison of the Strymon Iridium with some „real amps“ and miked cabs in the style of the modeled amps in the Iridium.
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This channel does the best demos on CZcams - really good comparison.
The iridium sounds like a really closely mic'd amp. I think that is it's limitations, it's inability to simulate the air/distancing of a mic'd cab.
I totally agree ❤️
Yep, no talking, no ego, no selfies... just playing and great info.
Fascinating comparison, what an impressive piece of hardware the strymon is. Thanks for sharing!
thanks for this! had the iridium for a while now and love it but was glad to hear the comparison. most of the time the iridium sounds so good on CZcams demos against amps because the people doing them aren't good at micing the amps, you did a great job micing the amps, which makes the iridium even more impressive. thanks again!
Very close to my ears and much lighter to my back - Thank you !
perfect comparison and very similar! It's impressive how the Iridium's IRs are very similar to a real amplifier.
wow, best Iridíum demo on CZcams, you just sold it to me!
I have a solo gig coming up (with backing tracks) and I need to get my pedal board directly into the PA for this gig
As always, demos that really give the most realistic representation, thank you.
Very informative - I own an Iridium and will bookmark this video as a reference. In every case the real amp and cab is a little better and you did an excellent job recording them and the Iridium. The iridium did very well though and is great for home recording.
Awesome comparison! Much appreciated. Keep it going this way!
Really good comparisons! Might be that the 5% extra bite in the Marshall comes from the fact the TLM-103 is a pretty bright mic. Just an idea.
Surprisingly good that Strymon Iridium. I always enjoy your videos BTW.
It’s nice hearing the Iridium within the context of a mix using tasteful playing that features a sweet spot tone of each amp. While I liked the real amps a little better, I don’t think the iridium detracts from the final mix. Great value proposition. Excellent demo!
I've had an Iridium for like a year and a half. Yeah, it's not a tube amp, but there's times when I'm playing it that I forget that fact. And live in a mix it's fantastic. Great tool.
If you close eyes and just listen to the examples randomly you hear differences of course. But there is no better or worse. the quality is amazing. for recording situations it is great option !
Great demo! Thank you.
To me, the first example was the most noticeable difference; not as 3D, but still usable. Other examples were fairly close. Good job, Strymon!
Seemed to my ears that with the Iridium, the mids were more forward in most of the comparisons. Amps were silkier. I wonder if some of that could change with slight eq adjustments, boosting the treble and cutting some of the mid projection. It all sounded good, maybe in more complex mixes with vocals and other instruments, the differences might seem even more subtle. I now have a stupid long pedal rig but the front line preamp and compressor and a new UA interface really help me get DI tones I like a lot of the time. Beautiful playing and tones in this video! Thank you!
The comparison with the Marshall SLP 100 blew me away. VERY close to the real thing.
Excellent vidéo! Bravo !
Wow ,love the Marshall ,and the iridium sounds great ,almost spot on 👍🏻
I love my Iridium! My amps are gathering dust these days!
Simplifier vs Amps pls ! Good video🙌
The amps have way more "air" and dynamics than the Iridium.
The Iridium is a great device and does a good work, though.
"more air", its hard to describe, i agree, real tube preamps just produce a bigger sound then you can replicate digitally
I think what you're describing is exactly that, "air". I've noticed a difference when hearing mics record an actual speaker moving air vs the exact same amp running into a cab sim.
@@woodja7 theres that, the difference of using a real cab, and i am referring to using a real preamp, yet another difference.
@@gibs8412 Yeah, I'm sure there's a difference in using a real preamp. I just think, or at least noticed within my own experience, the bigger gap in the digital technology is the cab/speaker/microphone simulation. Strymon, Line 6, etc... have come really close on the preamp side for my ears. The one difference I do notice on the preamp side is the interactivity between my volume knob and how it drives the preamp. The real thing responds to the input volume subtlety a bit more. Regardless, this sort of technology has come a long ways in the last decade. Cheers!
@@woodja7 i got ya, i even use real cabs, real mics, real power tubes, and struggle just with the difference between a tube preamp thru that or a digital one, lol
Thanks for the nice video!
Ive had the Iridium for a year and it’s a good buy. Been very handy. It lives on my pedal board for spare or stereo L channel combined with mic’d amp. Goes with me to where no amp dares to travel. Sounds really good. Amazing in fact sometimes.
I’ve been thinking the same thing, running the Iridium in stereo with my real amp (DrZ) could you give any details on how you’ve set your stereo rig up, pros/cons?
Thanks
for ease of use, I"d go any simulation. although after several tries, my ears and hands still prefer the analog thing somehow. there's something about those big boxes amps that I can't describe.
For anyone interested in Fender style capability of Iridium, it actually has 6v6 type amp in the round setting,
it's more like Deluxe Reverb with added mids knob. It sounds much different than Hot Rod Deluxe IV (i had both Iridium and HRDIV,
i sold the amp due to the valves and channel switching popping problems and i use Boss Nextone Stage as a pedal platform for loud playing
now and didn't look back even once, it's great!).
what a great video. The real amps are clearly superior, to a tube amp loving guitarist. That said, I just picked up an Iridium, so I don't have to mess with recording my tube amps in my condo. The iridium is a great sounding unit for sure. Listening to this, part of me was thinking the Iridium just sounds "different", not so much a better/worse thing. I never intended to replace the sound of a tube amp. Just replace the CPU eating amp sim plugins, which I think it does rather well.
guitar bonedo is the best guitar testing channel !! the best songs, no talking, the best sounds !!
Perfecta demostración de lo que es capaz este pedal…. El Iridium es una verdadera bestia… ( yo soy un feliz usuario de uno :))) ) . Es cierto que ahora tiene un competidor bastante serio el Simplifier DLX que en cuanto a conectividad y versatilidad lo supera en mi humilde opinión y que pierde la batalla en cuanto a simpleza se refiere cuando hablamos de “ Llegar, conectarte a el, tocar tres perillas y encontrar un tono mas que respetable fácilmente, creo que al SIMPLIFIER hay que dedicarle un poco mas de tiempo para eso, pero que en cuanto a sonido por los pocos videos que he podido ver/escuchar diría que se acerca mas al sonido real que te da uno de estos amplificadores SIN MICROFONEAR 👈🏽ojo , un sonido mas medioso y sin esa frecuencia aguda que puede caracterizar a lo digital.
P.D ; Es muy difícil por no decir que imposible poder comparar el sonido que te ofrece un amplificador real sin microfonear con un emulador digital a menos de que te encuentres presente delante de ellos fisicamente. Voy a parar ya que me pongo muy trascendental… lo siento..
Aun así felicito al autor de este video pues creo que es de las mejores comparaciones sino la mejor que he encontrado en CZcams. Gracias!!
Preferred the amps. More 3D/air. But the Iridium came very close and close enough to be the better choice in many practical situations both live and recording. The ladt comparison with the tubescreamer, I couldn't have guessed which was what blindfolded.
Putting a good analog compressor after the iridium would really help the sound.
The tech is racing ahead would it compete with a tube amp and pedal it does sound good though
Hot Rod Deluxes sound fn great huh? The strymon is awesome too
Very close except the Round/Fender amp is too dark. I’m enjoying my Iridium other than that.
Well done, thank you....
Where are you getting the drum tones??
Hi, great video, thanks for sharing, what IR do you use for iridium marshall tones?
Great demo. The differences are huge, no amp modelling for me.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was interesting. I found the Fender and Vox emulations so be good but not great. I'm very familiar with the AC15, so hearing the Iridium do the Vox thing was good but not quite there. The Marshall sound though, I think they nailed that. It sounded excellent.
Would anyone notice in a mix? They certainly wouldn't live.
@@pdp977 It's not always about the audience, but about how the players reacts and connect to the tone. I've spent years recording amps and with plugins, and I always found that playing through a VST created a challenge in the performance.
Digital is getting really close, and at some point this debate won't be worth having. Until then, it's fun to see the progression that digital is having, compared to it's analogue inspiration.
Sounds good to me!
where did you find a ts808 in mint condition?
I love the comparison. I have the iridium but i get so sick of carrying tube amps honestly. My issue with the iridium is that the swell caused by air movement cannot and will never be digitally spot on. Even though we can hear that happen, rest assure, whom every you are playing for does not know if you are playing through a marshall half stack or a potato.
Seems to excel at gain and less so at clean, although it still does a respectable job there
Impressive, doesn’t get the warmth and depth of the clean sound but it’s still very good
Going against the grain here, the Iridium sounds more pleasant to my ears. It doesn’t have as wide of a frequency range as the real amps but it sounds more focused and I actually like that it doesn’t have the high end presence that can get harsh at times.
Cab B for the Chime amp is an AC15 cab. Why not use that for comparison?
Not bad, I suppose I expected better from Strymon on ths one. The real Hot Rod Deluxe sounded great though! ;) Thanks for bringing this to us so early in the new year!
Edit: Now that I listen again, it just sounds liek the treble could use a 1dB boost on the pedal. So, again, not bad at all. You guys really did a good job of dialing in good tones from the real amps as well!
Little manipulating the subtle increase of volume coming with the iridium 😜Nevertheless both “systems” do sound very good in their own way 👍🏽
At the risk of sounding ridiculous, the first kidney POD did the same thing (and then some, effects and all) I do not understand the huge appeal of the Iridium. Would you compare both units in a mix sych as this one please? Keep up the good work.
@S JK Really? Not what my memory tells me. Platinum records were made with it. In any case, that’s why I would be very interested in a shootout in this very channel. These demos are great.
I think part of the richer sound of the real amps comes from mic selection. A m160 is a warm sounding ribbon mic with proximity effect. I think that can account for the warmer bigger sound of the real amps. I also think the Iridium will prolly be easier to mix than the warmer bassier ribbon mic’d real amps.
It is the 3 dimensional sound of a real tube amp vs the 2 dimensional sound of digital modeling.
I have an Iridium, and used to exclusively use it until I got Neural DSP plugins. I would recommend checking out the Archetype Cory Wong plugin. It’s a free trial, and you have nothing to lose. 🍻
@@sandmanmusic8584 haha, Na. I just really like their plugins.
As i expected. Great 3 dimensional sound of a real good tube amp vs the 2 dimensional sound of digital modeling.
Can i use iridium just as headphone amp for practise without pc? Just Iridium headphones and guitar - do you guys think
it is worth getting for this purpose if I live in a small apartment with paper walls?
Yes absolutely
Yes, it does a good job but for almost the half of the price, I would go with the Positive Grid Spark 40 amp. I have both and I don't use the Iridium anymore. Trust me, the Spark will impress you. I only play with headphones.
Whilst the Strymon Iridium is very passable the real amp sound has more life?
Iridium is great but sold mine & went back to my tube amps. You have to consider what happens if the Iridium bricks itself (heard many instances). Mine had a few glitches that were resolved via firmware update. This is a $400 computer chip/locked box. Power surges, etc can all cause an issue. Assuming you are original owner & under warranty (Strymon warranties are not xfer-able) Sending it to Strymon for a month or more for repair or replace doesn’t appeal.
I know this doesn’t solve the concern about bricking on stage, I guess a risk anyone who opts to go direct takes, but I had a small issue with the headphone amplifier on my iridium which is primarily how I practice and Strymon sent me a brand new Iridium and a shipping label for the old one. No month long wait in my case at least.
The sound on YT is one thing, but playing the Iridium (or any modeller) with flat speakers and playing a real amp are 2 very different experiences, the latter being much more pleasurable.
I prefer the amps in all the examples
There are small differences, but nothing qualitatively better or worse. :) I will say that the Iridium improves with better IRs. So it CAN get better. I love mine. I love my tube amps too:)
Nothing beats the original amps.
If we are splitting hairs, I prefer the iridium in this case. I feel the person recording all this did a great job in mic-ing the amps. I don't think the purpose of this video is to say which is better, just comparing. You win either way you go.
Greetings from Shanghai. Amps sound better, more “alive” in my opinion. Btw, who is the killer guitar player behind this review?
Did the Strymon sound better than the Marshall to anyone else?
Yes. My girl, as an audience, said it's less harsh. Audience's opinion is very important guys, they buy the records 😂😂😂🤘
Yes
Is not the amp even the iridium, are plugin’s doing the work!
The amps have a feel that cannot be replicated. The iridium has a place, but it’s not as a perfect substitute for amps.
do you have an iridium?
@@KeannuReevezzz03 I do. It’s great! It’s not my Frenzel or even my Terror Stamp, but it is incredibly useful.
To my ears, the Strymon is indistinguishable from a "real" amp on recordings. Of course, standing in front of a loud tube amp and feeling the speakers push air is not going to be replicated here, but for recording, there's not enough difference to warrant miking a tube amp. Tube purists can fight me on this, but they're wrong lol
Iridium is good but it sounds boxy
can't fight original amp
I couldnt like the Iridium. I had it for two days, sold It. Today I have a Torpedo CAB M+ with pedals.
What do you like better about the cab M while using pedals? I was thinking about the cab M using the built in pre amp for my pedals but haven’t heard any demos that convince me that it sounds better than the Iridium
Not so bad but it's not really sound the same way than a real guitar amp.
A flight simulator is not a plane.