Can Jupiter Ever Become a Star?
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If you believe, I can.
Jupiter, get back into Orbit and stop hanging out in You-tube comment sections.
Oh, and if you see Saturn you can tell him the same.
Jupiter You could make a religion out of this !
Jupiter well you have to need 78.8 your original mass
Jupiter lol wtf
JUPITER FOR PRESIDENT! XD (but wait if your here then your not in space and that means gravity is fuged up and THAT means SOMETING IZ GON HAPEN TO EARTH!! AHHHHH!! *Dead*
There isn't enough material in our solar system to make another star. We'd have to import some gas giants from other systems, and the shipping cost is where they get you.
Unless you have Amazon Prime!
Or starlift loads of material from the sun and dump it into jupiter, turning both into smaller, longer-lived stars, extending how long civilisation can survive in the solar system. Proxima centauri is only 0.123 solar masses.
@@shestewa6581 yeeep eventually the sun will release enough material...of course so many millions of years will be required
Your right you get an A+
Games Legend A++++++
Idk. Jupiter has to work on his singing and dancing to become a star.
10/10
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Azrael Archangel 10/10
Azrael Archangel what about boobs?
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Very instructive, i knew from childhood Jupiter was like a "failed star" in that the composition is about the same but it needs to be many times more massive to start its star reaction. Well thanks to you i like everybody else here know more precisely about it. :)
Jupiter is the biggest and yeah its a failed star I think and I don't want 2 stars in our solar system
"i KnEw FrOm ChILdHoOd" what you want an award or something you self centered knucklehead
Her: He is probably thinking about other girls
Him: *can jupiter become a star?*
Thanks for reviving that meme
Pretty much true though
Huh dont offense girls like this. I am a girl. Girls aren't behind guys.
@@poulomisensharma6652 it is representative of what a girl is thinking vs what a guy is actually thinking.
Im not sure what you think it means but its got nothing to do with who is 'behind' who. Though usually the guy is behind the girl lol
Poulomi Sensharma I bet he’s not offending probably why it died
Short answer, no. Long answer, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
CreamyGravy jjuunanusunshujsjsu
I heard that long noooooo in Toad's voice xD
CreamyGravy i
:) Maybe so but I had this theory a long time before the movie "2010". I feel honored that Anton did a video on the subject after I posed this question on his Facebook page.
Theoretical answer: yes, if, somehow, Jupiter's mass were to increase sufficiently.
I love how excited Anton sounds in his older content.
"Hello wonderful person!"
Ohhhh how I needed to hear that. :)
Hmmmmmmm
The transition point between a gas-giant and brown-dwarf is 13 Jupiter-masses at which point the core is hot enough for Deuturium fusion and second threshold is 69 Jupiter-masses at which Lithium can be fused. The threshold for Hydrogen-fusion is 76 Jupiter-masses.
If jupiter were to collide with a brown dwarf, do you think that would ignite it to become a star???
For that to happen the brown-dwarf would have to be very massive - 75 Jupiter masses so that Jupiter colliding with it would push the brown-dwarf to the 76 Jupiter-mass threshold.
Nicholas Maude thank you so much for the reply!
Nicholas Maude let me ask you, there has been a lot of speculation of our solar system colliding or merging somehow with another system ( some say it's trappists, I have no idea) but I have had thoughts of the sun's twin nemesis colliding w Jupiter and have wondered if it would ignite Jupiter???? I wonder if the trappist Sun is big enough?? Who knows?? Thank you again for answering ... :)
There is no proof so far that Nemesis exists.
In Clarke's 2010: Odyssey 2, the monolith-building civilization did just that
What da meth
The excitement of this intro compared to your videos nowadays is... well different :D Thanks for making dope videos wonderful Anton!
This was one of your best and most organized videos! Thanks!
well Jupiter can become a star if it goes on american idol
alpha yun get out of this room. 😋
Philippe DUE TO A COMEDICAL BODY THAT CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS MEDIOCRE, I DEMAND THAT YOU LEAVE THIS ROOM WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY IN
personally id rather send American idol and those stars to Jupiter imagine that one time show it would be worth the price of lol
alpha yun heh! Nice.😏
Delete this
Thank you Jupiter for being our cosmic big-brother.
Evil saturn is better
I had always wondered, Thank you for covering this. Love this content!!!
Now put a habitable planet around Jupiter star
Just did that. Orbital period is about 4 days if a planet is constructed as near to Earth-like as possible. (yeah, I could have just orbited a second Earth there, but what fun is that?) Started with an asteroid that had been captured in Jupiter's orbit after it ate its moons and just crashed other asteroids into it, then other moons as it became larger. Finally, a bit of adjustment to the orbit and some parameters so it matched Earth and Jovia was born. :D
Many habitable worlds would arise from Jupiter turning into a star. Many of the natural satellites would become habitable. Eroupa would be a great place to make a human settlement. Well, maybe humanity should not even land on Europa and just settle the other natural satellites around Jupiter. The new star should be named, "Lucifer," after the brightest and most beautiful angel of light.
@@indridcold8433 Europa will most likely be pushed away due to gravity and radiation, which might indicate it arriving in Lucifer’s habitable zone. The only thing that europa doesn’t have is an atmosphere, and that’s really important.
yes
Don't listen to any of these shit talkers, Jupiter. You be what the fuck you want to be.
Anton my mom likes your chanel because it is very educational.
Your mom's probably talking about Chanel fragrance but not this channel
Channel*
Say hi to your mum for me, and tell her I'm sorry I didn't visit yesterday.
No worries.
Plenty more where you came from.
Your Mom Oh shit xD
Your channel is so relaxing... love putting it and fall asleep to discussions of the stars.
Watching this now I realize you've mellowed down a lot in your tone in your newer videos.
I really like that, your videos are relaxing as well as intriguing
Everyone knows that all you need is a monolith.
few Atomic Bomb sends by Donald Trump should do the trick. he is always ready for big bangs... where was I? oh SPACE FORCE
Jupiter can be a star. It just has to get the right break out role...
Jupiter would make a great star in the remaking of Caligula.
Once it is a star, we can put a new earth around it.
And if it becomes a state of America XD
Much love Anton. New sub I love your content. Keep it coming!
These are such cool videos! Great work Anton
Always wondered and wanted to see this. 👏
I love Jupiter the way it is. To me it is already a star.
then you're adumbass
@@idkbro4932 They meant that jupiter is like a superstar popstar etc. Not a literal star
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Failed star
Excellent stuff.. This kind of content is rare. Of course it's based on current understanding and some initial game-like simulation knowledge, but it's still very cool.
oh youre the guy from what da math! i remember watching this all the time when i was a kid! i’ve been watching your newer videos for like 2 years now and i never realised that you were the same person.
All you need is the monolith from 2010, then you can.
2001*
2010 is the sequel movie, where they turn jupiter into a star
I just looked it up and now I feel stupid.
I didn't just see the movie, either. I read the books but it had been such a long time I thought there was only one
Yeah. I think what the Monoliths did was intensifying the density of Jupiter, not adding more mass as in the video here. Jupiter was literally sucked/squeezed inside itself and became denser and denser. Until nuclear fusion was ignited.
Monoliths. Lots of them.
If Jupiter were to become a star, it would have to be a dwarf star.
no shit sherlock
And Mars would probably become habitable as it's temperature would get warmer. The Galilean moons would also become warm
Haha good one!
What about the crystalline hydrogen in Jupiter? Surely that is a super-intense form of energy we still cannot fully understand. Perhaps Jupiter can become a star larger than a dwarf we really do not know. And the fact that the sun appears to have more mass because it has hyper-velocity material in it's interior that amplify gravitational effects makes it seem more massive than it truly is in reality.
@dr2brain except that red dwarfs give of shit tons of xrays and solar wind and are highly veriable in there output, they seem like a good idea because they last so long but in reality they are a terrible idea if you want to live on a planet, if you want to live in habitats orbiting the star with loads of rock used for shielding it's not a bad plan though as you don't need to worry about the radiation or veirable output as you would be controlling the temp of the habitats anyway.
I've had this question in my head since I was 7 years old man thank you for giving me an answer realistic and reasonable math can fix everything
Thank you, most interesting!
What happens if all the planets mixed together???
Omqx nothing happens just collisions and a merged gas giant would be the outcome
Omqx tron he's already done it with moons
Mrcreeper2 Music & MORE! no
Uranus would burst
Carl CIFER shitty pun here ! gj
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As Doc on the Space Engine Discord put it, “Brown Dwarfs are wanna be stars that are gas giants”
Hay milky way i not gona eat u
I would've loved to see what became of the solar system at the end. Maybe rerun this simulation and let it run for a couple years more (maybe even a few decades/hundred)
So far the inner solar system seemed unscathed. No doubt it wont remain as such but I loved this !
I don't think Universe Sandbox is a reliable method to science in reality.
Okay, sure. But mistakes can be made. Just because an astrophysicist made it doesn't mean everything in it is a perfect replica of the real thing.
Daniel Preciado like if a GIGANTIC Bucket of water was poured on the sun then a new Star would be born with 2 times the mass of our sun
Anton can change that, he literally does stuff that aren't even meant to be done it this game. Trust me, he knows what he's doing.
That's why it's a simulation
i love when people use the word science in a weird way. just like "is a reliable method to SCIENCE in real life" lmao
Make a time lapse of an asteroid field making planets? o:
Mira Luna ooh
Anton if you see this, I love this old style of video, and at this point would just love to see you make a secondary channel just for fun gameplays of Universe Sandbox and games alike
You're so much calmer in 4 years time. Anton on red bull 🤣
Well that was 12 minutes longer than it needed to be.
At least someone says I'm a wonderful person 💛
Dont pray
Omg, that enthustiastic greeting blew me away, haha. You're much calmer nowadays. :P
Something I'd love to see you explore would be what it would take to terraform Mars into an inhabitable planet, and if it's conceivable with future technologies?
“Hello wonderful person...” INSTANT LIKE
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lol Jupiter looks terraformed somehow XD
I really love how the logic of this game says "crash a bunch of planets together-- and you'll get a star."
Jupiter's made of mostly the same junk as the sun, so if you were to smash a bunch of Jupiter like objects together, you'll get a star.
Wow! So much energy in these older videos! XD
That's beautiful.
But we know gravity isn't only way to start fusion reaction.
Ron Brideau No, but pressure is needed. Gravity is the best way such high constant pressure can be sustained. Magnetically crushing fuel together works as well, but nature doesn't have electromagnetic coils or high power sockets.
Remember that science is never complete, and assuming we know everything about a star is naive. New data shows that Sol is not powered by nuclear fission, but rather, Birkeland Currents.
HiveTyrant36 You're right that stars don't use nuclear fission. Can you imagine how much uranium you'd need?
Nova Solarius well, the model states that it's helium (or is it hydrogen) that undergoes chemical change over and over into iron. Except, they never explain how the lightest element made it to the center.
HiveTyrant36 It's a nuclear change, not a chemical one. Stars are too hot to permit chemical reactions. As for hydrogen reaching the core, that's simple. Plasma is incredibly hot, and hot fluids move around. Helium doesn't build up in the core because of currents in the plasma. That said, heavier elements do stay nearer to the center. This is why larger stars are layered.
I love watching your vids when I'm high
It makes them so much more enjoyable
Greetings from Suriname
You do drugs!?!?!
Gives new meaning to the song "Drops of Jupiter"
If we take that missing mass out of our sun via star-lifting, would the sun itself get noticable darker/cooler?
nope once You become a Star You either explode or Turn into a black Hole If the Star is Big enough
@@THOMAS-oj8bb that's not the only ways stars die. Our own sun should become a white dwarf at the end of its life.
I’ve learned: Jupiter can become a star 💫 it just needs the right motivation
His heel, will bruise the serpants head, the bottom of Jupiter hit the top of Saturn already, scientists know this
Jupiter will become a Sun once God says it's time, and the new earth and new heaven will happen.
*meanwhile in neptune*
Uranus: Neptune, did you feel that
Neptune: nope 😐
How does this look so good
WHAT DA MATH your videos are so nice
what program are you using???
Universe Sandbox
Universe Sandbox 2
I like your video. Can you tell me what simulation software you are using?
Randy Dunn any luck finding out I too need to know
Laschworks Television
I believe it is Universe Sandbox 2 that can be found at universesandbox dot com. It is a 25 dollar program, which is not bad at all for what it does.
Randy Dunn you can install for free :)
Universe sandbox2
Randy Dunn You can also buy it on Steam.
Cool. I like the computer program you are using.
I wonder if most stars started out as masses large enough to make a star or if most stars were made from large mass collisions similar to this, and are there lone stars separated from galaxies?
what program is?
Universe Sandbox
it is not StarFox 64?
Hi Jupiter it’s me Neptune !
Incredibly versatile software you have there.
Caller:Is this the crusty crab?Patrick Star:NO THIS IS PATRICK!
What program is this? I would love to play around on it. Space Engine doesn't cut it.
Spaceman Spliff universe sandbox
its called universe sandbox 2
Did you try reading the description?
@@pogo575 Did you try telling him/her the name of the game?
Didn't Jupiter sort of become a star in that one movie?
Yeah in 2010.
Potentially it could save us from that Asteroid that's supposed to come around 5 days before Christmas if this simulation were to be correct. Apparently somebody said in a journal that there was an Asteroid in line to come by to Earth every so often.
The simulation software is neat!
Are twinned habitable planets possible. From time to time they pop up in science fiction, but do not seem plausible .
By twinned planets do you mean two planets with a center of mass between then, like we and our moon, but just with a bigger moon, or two planets that have the same orbit but are on the opposite sides of their sun?
The first one is unlikely but possible. (Having two planets with the necessary traits for life that close is like winning the lottery, 3 times in a row.) The second one is pretty much impossible to exist naturally. (That is more like winning the lottery every day for the rest of your life.)
Z Zs yeah something like that
That's binary planets and yes they exsist.
Z Zs could you have a planet with two habitable moons in a binary star system?
Any large bodies of water on the planets would have an extreme tide.
lets make earth a moon of Jupiter, it will look awesome
Earth was once a moon of Saturn so you aren't far off lol. They won't teach you that in school though.
HiveTyrant36 That's because what you said is bullshit
How to turn off the autosave, when you create/open a new simulation?
awesome video. thanks for answering my curiosity as well.
however, this video leads me to my next questions: if Jupiter was a Red Dwarf and there was a stable orbit between the two stars, then is there a "goldlilocks zone" and a stable orbit for a planet such as earth (or any other planet size) which can support life? and how would that look like? Or to make it simpler, is there a stable orbit for a planet such as Earth?
just wondering 😎
What if we nuked Jupiter?
Not much considering nukes have been used on Earth. It would just disappear into the core and be lost
the storms on jupiter have as much destructive force than any nuke we could throw at it
It wouldn't start Jupiter burning in the fire of thermonuclear conflagration, it would just make it very angry at Earth. Best not to try it.
We all ready did when we sent a probe with a nuclear reactor plunging down on it
Joseph Duncan
That's nerve racking.
It already is a brown dwarf star since it emits infrared radiation and produces more energy than it receives from the sun so it is by definition a star 😌
JUPITER ALWAYS BEEN CLASSED AS A FAILED STAR. ONE THAT NEVER GREW UP COMPLETELY. BECAUSE IT'S MADE UP FROM SAME ELEMENTS OF THE STAR SO IT CAN EASILY BE FUSED AT RIGHT TEMPERATURE OR IDEAL TIME.
That mean if jupiter is 0.1 au then its not a star
It needs to nuclear fusion this is like saying a random metal cube from deep space that glows dim red is a star
Idea: Try To Turn Jupiter Into A Star
Instead of "you can't turn Jupiter into a star", you should take the approach of an Issac Arthur vid and explain ways you could turn it into a star.
In that format you are staying positive while still showing how difficult it would be to turn Jupiter into a star.
What if you got more "stuff" from the sun? How much of the sun would it take to kick start Jupiter ?
kingdom come Well I believe you would have to check how many Jupiters "fit" into the Sun (mass wise) and then just extract 78 or 79 masses of Jupiter from the Sun and see what that equates to in terms of mass of the Sun.
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If you introduce enough oxygen into jupiter's atmosphere, the flammable gasses would have enough oxidizer to make it possible for the planet burst into flames.
Then all you have to do is introduce a lit match.
It would be what would _look_ like a star for a while, until it burns up completely
niko 2: electric boogaloo The temperature inside of Jupiter is already enough to start a reaction like that, no matches needed. Just put enough oxygen in there and watch it burn away into nothingness...nope also not what would happen: the gasses would just be replaced by themselves after reacting to oxygen, and whatever else there is to react with. So just think of Jupiter + Oxygen -> (in the presence of heat) OxyJupiter!
Oh and if I wrote something inaccurate please feel free to correct me: I haven't done chemistry since 12 months ago, we 1st year Computer Engineering students don't need that shite it seems! 😂
The reaction would indeed make more gasses, which would then comprise jupiter, but the light would still be there, probably
niko 2: electric boogaloo Yeah, shit loads of it!🤣 It would probably look like a flash in the sky...except it would last a few months I believe...😃
i wonder if the reaction would alter jupiter's mass enough to mess with the other planets...
no oxyclean
Wow imagine the nightsky being illuminated by a Red Dwarf, awsome!
We'd be dead😂
I love your simulations. Can you do one where you can smash Europa into Mars or smash a ice comet into Mars. I also like to see if you can move a planet or a moon out of it's orbit to a different orbit.
Jupiter -> white dwarf -> neutron star?
Nibrasakhi no
UM NO.
no... NO. a white dwarf is a star remanant, and a neutron star is a star remanant. if your plan is jupiter -> star -> white dwarf -> neutron star then that wouldnt work either. the only thing u get from white dwarfs is supernovae (vampire) or black dwarfs (theoretical)
White dwarves cannot become neutron stars.
Jupiter -> red dwarf main sequence -> white dwarf -> could become a type 2A supernovae if it absorbs mass from other planets, probs not though -> then becomes a black dwarf after trillions of years
A brown dwarf IS as star
dumbass no it isnt
No fusion = no star
Its a starting star so i guess its a star
No it isnt its a failed abomination
Its never going to be a star if it cannot sustain hydrogen fusion you stupid ass. Sorry for bad language. I just had to say it tho
Everything was ready and done ✅
10:30 There is a process called star lifting that could take mass from the sun and use it to turn jupiter into a red dwarf. It would take less than 1% of the suns mass to do so and woudl not noticeably effect the suns output.
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It depends on the definition, actually. Some astronomers classify objects with roughly the same mass and composition of Jupiter (which incidentally, is almost exactly the same composition of our Sun) as Brow Dwarfs already, and what puts Jupiter as a planet is the way it was formed, not it's size, mass or make up.
Yes, but what do all talking about is self ignition. Could you not set off a fusion explosion using the tsar bomba per se?
God could make it np,just like he did before and continues too.
Doing what? Not existing?
It takes an idiot to believe the universe came from nothing .
Going by evolution . Everything changes to adapted to conditions . Please explain how a 1 cell creature that reproduces by dividing into 2 grows a penis and a vagina at the same times to reproduces by way of intercourse ?
You also do know the deeper science look into space the more they are convince that there is an intelligent behind its design .
Then there the fact that science is always being change as they learn more . What they teach in school today will thrown out in 10 years for their next new theories . The bible reminds constance . People may twist it to their own agenda which turns other away from it but that is on people not on god
Terry Colbourne you're the idiot, the big band theory doesn't think the universe came from nothing. The bible thinks that, as said once there was nothing and then there was light. Believe god made everything in 7 days and nights. And you're incorrect, the same things in science has been taught for hundreds of years. Like the laws of gravity and motion, calculus etc. etc. Religion consistantly changes, look from Judaism, the origin of christianity all the way up to the morman belief. There are hundreds of religions with thousands of gods which consistantly changes.
"LET THERE BE LIGHT!"
What more succinct description of the big bang could you have?
Farrier, there wasn't any light for 380 000 years after the Big Bang ... learn some god damn physics!
Aw he sounded so different back then. Glad you feel comfortable being more relaxed now. (:
Anton! Love it
I actually had wondered about this for quite some time. Wouldn't all of the mass you added have to be hydrogen since heavier elements wouldn't be conducive to fusion? You couldn't just redirect asteroids into Jupiter to increase it's mass I would think.
Jupiter has what it takes to be a star but it’s got to put in the work
It is actually quite surprising to me how stable the solar system remained after Jupiter became a red dwarf. I was expecting much more dramatic changes from an increase in mass of that magnitude. Hell, even with the added energy of a second star in the solar system, the earths temp didn't fluctuate by more than 3°C the entire time you ran it.
I was curious. Do you think it possible that we can some how use Saturn as some sort of natural radio telescope or perhaps one day use the gravity of the four gas giants and the sun to make a gravity scope of some sort. Please let me know. I've asked NASA about Saturn but got no answer.
6:58 ``Slowly eating (...) I don't know what is happening to that mass (...) shrinking in size``
Jupiter is on a crush diet!