Final Distance Numbers for 2023 Did We Gain Distance?? | Disc Golf VLogmas Day 23
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WELCOME TO VLOGMAS DAY 23!!!!
WEEKS of Throws. Weeks of Extra Weight. A YEAR of trying to change the form...did it work?? In today's video we head back to the field to showcase what I've been working on, and I'll tell ya...it's tough out there. Distance has been my kryptonite...my pain...my fury in playing this game. Did it actually work using a different method?? Have we given it enough time?? All questions I'm asking as we head into today's video, and you'll have to watch to find out!!
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0:38 Setting the Table
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Oh boy, can I relate. It's frustrating. Thanks for being vulnerable.
My 2 Pennies as someone who is a passenger on the distance struggle bus.
I saw a video talking about how McBeth keeps his weight on his backfoot until the pull through then explodes through that foot as the rips through smoothly and that when I actually remember to do it ALWAYS gets me more distance.
I believe the video was from Slingshot DG
Marry Christmas Robbie. I hope you and your family are all well. Thank you for doing all these videos and sharing parts of your life I know it can’t be easy at times showing your struggles, however it does let some of us see that we are all human. Happy new year mr. CZcams man!!!
Love your honesty and transparency as always. I turned 40 this year after working through knee surgery early in the year, so longevity is definitely on my mind. I shifted from my raw MPG quest to increasing spin and consistency, and my body's thankful. Similar to you, I struggled with letting the disc rip out after years of subconsciously opening my hand. I went from low 800 RPMs to 1000+ by focusing solely on that, and I indirectly started throwing farther. The "tip of the whip" is real 😂, which I should already have known as a math/physics guy.
I think it's good to show the frustration of form changing. I have had to change things several times due to injuries. It's always frustrating to me and it's good that others know even with work change isn't painless. Keep it up!
Love the candid content. ALL can relate in some way. Keep fighting the good fight RC.
Hey man, real talk: You know I'm well aware of that frustration of 1 step forward, 2 steps back. But I'm here to tell you, what you're doing makes a difference. Your advice on head placement and arm speed has yet again given me more distance, (I had a jump putt on hole 5 at alabaster today)and I know you've yet to see it, but my putting today was on point because of your methods.
It'll all come together man, and we'll be here to cheer for you when it does.
Definitely on your side. Enjoy the game and let the distance come (if it does.) Have a merry Christmas!
Robbie I love you, I am on your side and am praying for you buddy!
Love this style of video and love the channel. Keep putting in the work!!
Robbie I have to say today was one of the best. I’m on the struggle bus with distance. Mine is to get to 250 but it’s nice to see cause sometimes you just feel alone with struggles. You will get it though. You got this dawg
That's a good point about reaching back to far. It's also a good reason to actually release the disc when throwing hard. Because if you're letting the disc rip out of your hand you are risking hyperextension. Thanks for pointing that out.
Going through the same thing, thanks for being real Robbie.
I feel your pain. Sometimes when you’ve been doing something so long your body has already figured the best ways for you get speed for you. I had this issue with golf trying to get passed the 110mph clubspeed. Only thing I found that works when you’ve hit a wall is fitness. I’d recommend get in the gym consistently for a month or two, Lift as heavy as you can for 2 or 3 reps. Then once your progression slows weight wise switch to 5 or 6 reps as fast as possible. All the while doing 15 or so minutes 3 times a week of pure speed throws with tech disc. This worked for me when I was a pro golfer. Still trying to get my disc golf form to reasonable starting place but I’d say fitness is the way to go
Good luck! I feel that frustration. Still pretty new. I feel like I have improved my form so much since September but not seeing any distance gains. Stuck at. 250.
Feel your pain Robbie. I can identify with everything here thanks for being honest.
Merry Xmas Robbie!
I like the "raw" style vids. Hope to see more next year.
I completely understand!! I've personally come a long way in my aim, line selection, and putting. These have made big improvements to my scores, however, my max distance is still only about 347. I guess as long as my overall game continues to improve I'm ok with it..... No, no I'm really not lol.
Your frustration is literally me. I can sidearm 250-300 at best but my backhands are absolutely trash. I'm lucky to backhand 150ft. When I do it's all over the place. Glad I'm not the only one struggling with it when sidearm has been stupid easy for me.
Keep doing you bro. Enjoy your videos.
I feel for ya. I overdid myself during one field session and had to take 4-6 weeks off, then continued wearing an elbow brace for a month or two after that. You still have more distance than me - I'm consistently around +/- 200, slowwwwwwly increasing, but overall just struggling to figure out what's really holding me back. It seems like people can hit 250-300 just arming it so it's really frustrating to feel so feeble.
I'm in the same boat as you, I putt great but have always struggled for distance. My 10th playing anniversary will be in April, and I'll be 35. I'm currently sitting around 350' with Trashers and Raiders. I've always wanted at least 400'-420' because some local courses demand it to score well.
Merry Christmas!
I'm in the same exact boat! Glad to have some company.
As someone who has worked with several front leg coaches and coach T back leg is the only way to go just from a safety perspective alone.
You’re flailing your back leg which is a sign you’re not getting anything out of your lower body which causes your upper body to over compensate.
The Elbow pain is real, I have also been fighting that....
Final distance numbers? You have a whole week to keep grinding out more gains! :)
Keep it up, you can do it
I think your upper body stuff looks great, but your left leg is working AGAINST the rotation and energy into the disc. If your legs and hips are closing it’s gonna hurt putting power into the disc. Try letting that left leg wrap around clockwise rather than counter clockwise and see what happens. 😊 excited to see the distance in 2024!!!
Really solid advice. Drew Gibson emphasized the same thing when training Bodanza. With Rob you can see his left leg travel behind his right, which has to be acting as an anchor for the rotation of his hips, rather than a tool used to help accelerate his hip rotation. Suuuper solid advice and great eye
Drew Gibson and Ezra Aderhold are two good examples this.
I wouldn't be surprised if his coach is teaching the opposite as this looks to be a counterweight style of throw where the leg is supposed to kick back.
Different from what Drew uses.
@@ViJt-oq5nq if that’s the case I’m not sure what the benefit to that would be. That move seems to disconnect the upper and lower body, mess with timing, and decrease power, but that’s just me… ha ha.
Saw another comment mention this, but your left leg is traveling behind your right leg and is rotating in the opposite direction you want your hips to turn. When Drew Gibson was training Bodanza, he mentioned the importance of driving that back leg forward to aid in the rotation of his hips. If you can focus on using that leg to drive the rotation of your hips rather than countering it, I think it will really help with your power.
Just curious what is your workout routine like? How often and what are your focus’s? Need some light band work and some light weight routine 2-5 lbs. love your stuff. Active recovery take care of yourself Robbie
Can’t recommend an elbow compression sleeve enough when you’re throwing and practicing for max distance, even if you’re not having pain cause it gives even more elbow support.
He said my name, this is the best day of my life
I think your trying to make one major change which will fix your distance. What you need is a series of minor changes. I think you would have more success focusing on one small thing at a time
I laughed way too hard at "I can't grasp distance to save my life" while watching you stand too close to the camera lmao 😂. Great video though
Since you asked, I am doing pretty good. Tired after a terrible round of disc golf (terrible is my norm), having some coffee and watching CZcams.
Sitting here giving my son a bath. His name is Westley. Thank you.
The problem is you forgot the cowboy hat just sayin…have happy holidays!!
I don't know who the Wesley you mentioned in the intro is, or if it's an inside joke, but my newborn son is named Wesley and it caught me off guard. 🤣
How you doin' today Robbie? You having a good one?
Ahhh! Pain is no bueno and not worth it, brother! Imagine never being able to play without pain due to permanent injury.
I'm topped out around 400. I get 450 to 475 on occasion no idea how or why it happens feels the same as my normal max throw. Must be timing 🤷♂️ or wheaties
You'd be surprised, sometimes it actually can be "Wheaties".
If you've ever hit the gym, you'd know there are days you can bench 200, and days 160 feels like a struggle.
It really does come down to how well fueled your body is. Personally, I like drinking a protein shake 30 mins before going in as the amino acids in Whey is absorbed insanely fast and provides consistent strength n energy.
Sometimes the harder you try for distance the more you change too many things. You'll get it figured out. I bet you have an aha moment soon.
I think you should focus on maximizing spin instead of speed.
I'm not a coach by any means, but I watched your 10 O'clock video and this one to kinda confirm my thoughts, it seems to me like you are pulling through a little too close to your body, which would explain why when you feel like you get a good rip it comes out later because that is when you seem to be making full extension. I watched a few videos that kinda exaggerated the rolling in of your shoulder to make the distance of the 90 degree during the power pocket reach out a little further, which would lead to a more extended release when you hit that 10 O'clock point in your throw. just my take, obviously take it with a grain of salt, but I am curious to see what your coach would think about it.
Quick fix on elbow pain...it looks like your hand is ABOVE your elbow. Hand dangling below the elbow is know to reduce injuries.
Work on greater inward elbow rotation as a longterm exercise habit. This will reduce elbow problems when throwing hard.
This. It'll also make the disc fly better.
Looks like you are "kicking" your left leg back so your hip doesn't rotate and your throw is all arm.
This. Robbie is getting nothing out of his lower body and his upper body has to overcompensate.
This is just my opinion, but this looks like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how THAT specific form is supposed to work.
That's the "counterweight" style of throw you see taught by Trebuchet Disc Golf. It's apparent based on your rear leg going behind you and the way you are coiling.
It's an entirely valid throw, but it's meant to be thrown on HYZER because it has hyzer baked in.
Trying to throw flat and straight is extremely difficult to do to near impossible, you trying to reach the disc back flat is showing this. It's probably what's causing the elbow pain, because you do have to get into uncomfortable positions to do it with this form... Probably also explains why the first couple throws were such rips but the more you tried to straighten out the more it broke down.
Trebuchet has openly talked about this in his videos. You have to rely on hyzer throws n hyzer flips, and you will find improvement.
I'd highly highly recommend you go talk to that guy. I don't even use that form, I use slingshot, but Trebuchet has a great understanding of that form, knows how it's different from others, and could probably tell you how to fix it if you want to continue with it.
But if you insist on using that form the way you are trying to use it, you'll hit a dead end, which you have.
Idk why you’d even bring up coach T or his methods when you’ve never worked with him. You have at least 2 coaches you’ve worked with the last year and the blame belongs to them. Throwing over weight discs 1st without warming up in the cold isn’t doing you any favors either you mite want to rethink that your elbow will thank you
He properly caveated that he was looking at coach T but that he didn’t properly warm up and pushed himself too hard. He wasn’t like complaining or lamenting coach T at all. Just stating that in his frustration with his current regimen he looked to coach T without considering the damage he may be causing. Your feedback appears a little too pointed and not fully considered
@@frisbeefrolfat this point in the front leg/back leg war OP’s comment is more than warranted. The get along gang can’t seem to make a video without dragging SS somehow.
I know I have no credentials and no one knows your body like you but, why would you do this with overweight discs in a distance trial? Throw what you are used to. Warm up with flippier plastic to feel the confidence of the glide them try to push it with your drivers. Also, I feel like a huge thing your missing with your distance is something almost all the big arm guys do is having their hips “raised” where your whole body feels like it’s moving from high through the walk through, low on the x step, and flat through the throw. I feel like the whole time you throw your hips are aimed into the ground and the only time you explode is when you forced your arm to do the work hence the elbow pain. But of course those are just my guesses
Makes me wonder if anyone should be trying to throw far, looking at the mass of injuries to YT and pro players trying to do so. Perhaps we should all throw 50% max effort at most?
It comes with age. Those young kids on tour have young, fresh and flexible hips so they are able to transfer a lot of power. Once you get older and aren't into sports activity as much as you were when you were young you need to bring that hip strength back and act more like an athlete and train to get that strength back into your body. Thats why plateaus happen.
You are not the only person who has been injured by Coach Tee's bad advice.
Yes because we all know coach T gives horrible advice and it couldn’t possibly be that you didn’t listen to him.
@@CherryB0mb333 my point is no one should listen to him. Bad advice is bad.
@@nathanwilson7929 name one piece of advice that coach T has given that’s bad and I’ll give you ten from OT.