I mean he openly admitted that he lost in an ign video prior to this, I'm sure he's still skilled regardless but it would make sense to assume he also practiced lol, so if practicing before a presentation puts you on a whole other level then sure. I think it would be more impressive if they gave a dev some sort of secret boss challenge he's never fought before, then to me if he did so well against it the dev would be on a whole other level
@@novum2915I think what he meant of Japanese devs being on "a whole 'nother level" is that they actually "play" the game. They play the game and are actually trying to get good at it rather than playing it just to playtest and check for bugs. Other devs are usually just playtesters and are not that interested in the game itself. I guess that's what makes Japanese devs on "a whole 'nother level."
Both of you are saying this as if every dev on the FF16 team would have been able to play the game this skillfully, yes obviously there are playtesters and people who just search for bugs and every other role as well, but what I am saying is that I'm sure they didn't just pull a random guy who programs the wall collisions for example lol, the original comment is too broad and general was the main point of my first comment So what both of you are saying makes perfect sense, I can agree that Japanese devs are dedicated and it's super cool to see them play their games so well, I think of Sakurai with Smash Bros and how good he actually is at Smash, but a dev or a certain group of devs playing their game to make sure it's actually playable and fun is also not the most surprising thing I've ever heard of
These devs know their game in and out. Reminds me of that video of the ARMS tournament where the winner gets to spar with the the creator of the game. The dev wiped the floor with the champion of the tournament without breaking a sweat lmao.
that's how game devs should be tbh... if they are passionate with their game and even managed to beat any challenge in their game without breaking a sweat, you know the game is gonna be great and balanced.
Naoki Yoshida itself also quite skilled hardcore gamers he used to be very skilled at street fighters to the point he trashed 40+ players and end up has capcom devs nerfed the characters he used in FFXIV he is also among top parser as Black Mage. not just him, the devs also end up need to nerfed certain mechanics because the devs turn out more skilled than expected than the players itself.
Coming back to this after having done this fight solo but at 35, this fight really does haunt you cause there's a high potential to beat this guy but maintaining his patterns is so tough. Dude even planned out proper counters and loadout positions for a perfect strat and of course he's very solid at the counters. Even upgraded specific skills to compensate the damage needed. I can't wait for people to hit NG+ and have very interesting tests on this boss.
The boss isn't hard at all, especially this one. Spam raging fist to destroy its stagger and just abuse titan, then limit break and unleash hell when it's staggered. Svarog is tougher
@@ShowtimeLaw Svarog is a whole different beast of course, but this one isnt exactly easy. not everyone uses raging fists either, i didn't. its difficulty mainly comes from its swing timing, its annoying. now an easy S class is the Chimera, that thing was a joke.
That's what happens when you pit a DMC dev against a DMC style game. He probably has the top 1% of time playing the DMC titles. Literal thousand of hours.
@@davidpotts7116 just use the rings even on fantasy mode there not hard if you use the ring of timely strikes and ring of focus or what ever its called you can kill the level 93 dragon hunt its like level 50 on your first playthrough pretty easy even at mid 60s
@@renamamiya3190timely accessories assistance is basically a way for developer said "git gud" For gaming journalist or any bad player who cant play this game. Thou i admit i'm still using one of the accessories for torgal only so i can execute combo more flawlessly
What I love about this game is the number of different builds you can have with 8 eikons. And the planning it takes. You have some very interesting styles out there. Like counter style, or will damage style, or physical damages, or focusing on aerial combos. It rly depends what you prefer.
Yeah I am almost at the end of normal game, and I have a pretty good damage build, where diamond dust does super good stagger, then a bit more fumbling around with normal attacks and a few abilities and then when the boss gets staggered I rain all my abilities on him and get like 100k damage.
Honestly, this combat looks amazing, and from what I played in the demo, so much fun. But I also, as a big fan of Max (Maximilian Dood, the guy on the far left) I love that he's here with these guys commenting on this fight with them.
Oh my god the music ! Puts me in my feelings every time! Final fantasy never misses when it comes to the music! I love it soooo much! It’s sooo cool seeing game devs play their own games! I always wondered if game devs play their own games! I wonder if nomura plays kingdoms hearts?
if lvl 45 enemies have around 200-300k in NORMAL mode...i wonder how much hp endgame bosses in final fantasy mode will have. and what kind of damage clive will be capable of dishing out. GOD THERES LESS THAN 24 HOURS FQOIwjefoi2jeOFI@J@OIJ
It totally depends on your game style. These abilities are counter abilities so not good for everyone. I’ve seen some wild builds out there, like ones where eikon abilities enhance each other for insane damage. Like will of the wisp from ifrit and the lightning bolt from ramuh, ifrit ability actually hits the bolt and increases dmg even further to insanity. Every ability in this game is good depending on build.
I'll be honest i didnt watch this video when it was release cuz i dont want getting spoiled. After i managed to reach this hunt and finally defeated the S monster with only 2 tries, i can confirm that Titan is the only Meta you can count on during S notorius mark. For me Raging fist is really good to decrease stagger bar.
Atlas is probably the easiest S-rank hunt to normal parry, so Titan isn't necessary. But considering the other choice at this point was ramuh, I guess Titan is mandatory.
Coming back to this after my initial playthrough and yeah you can see how easy the game can be when you know what your doing. Really wish both Bosses and especially adds were tougher in the game. Combat is so sick
I've just finished the game and I didnt even know/used half of the attacks and counter he used lol The way he did this fight was soo coool !! While when I fight it just looks so random XD
@@user-ht4kp7py2c My opinion of his fight here, changed dramatically after having played the game and beating it. He’s really not that good at all. But that might be a bit unfair because he’s likely very nervous playing in front of a crowd, and that adds a level of difficulty I’m not facing at home lol But if we were to judge based on the gameplay alone, it’s not impressive considering it is quite an easy game. Haven’t started FF mode yet though
@@Snyde91 I beat the game on action mode and it was a terrible, no challenge, repetitive experience, and deleted game from library. Easily one of my most disappointing gaming experiences ever.
@@user-ht4kp7py2c I didn’t feel as strongly about it as you but I can understand that. I enjoyed the game overall and the Eikon fights were the highlight for me. Going to leave it for 6 months or so and then try FF mode to see if it’s a fun challenge, but I really can’t see it being too difficult unless it adds a lot of mechanics to fights. The dodge-window is way too forgiving for that imo
I dont play the game but thought its a perfect exhibition, dev showed off a wide range of moves proving it can be done as another commentator said "once you git gud".
I mean he was in development, he was there when that boss learnt it's techniques, to him it's movements are mere childs play. It'd be an insult to say that this is the extent of the devs skills!
Those are specific bosses you get from a bounty list later in the game. They're rank "S" in terms of difficulty but they're not so hard once you learn some of the patterns. The level gap doesn't matter. I had more or less the same gap when I killed Atlas. Next rank "S" boss after this one is lvl 50 and you can defeat it with a 10-15 level gap all the same. It's one of the easiest Final Fantasy I've ever played and even those bounty elite bosses (that are optional) don't even come close to the difficulty of some story bosses during the PS2-PS3 era of the franchise.
In this corner we have the Chad Dev that clearly cares about the game to have a high skill in it VS. .....game journalists who can barely even look around and hafta stop and look at their controller to jump
I took on a level 50 mark in FFXVI at level 38 I died the first time learning the strategy but after that it was a fight and I beat him I don't have any real complaints in the combat of the game
weird how your perspective completely changes after you've gone through final fantasy mode and know how to parry with odin. then again he's doing this with limited eikons
The devs really just have fun and not going all out, realising this is a promotion, we didn't know how far his play style actually, this is just for promotion, you could see that he took it easy
Dude did a perfect cinematic finish as well. Japanese devs are on a whole other level
I mean he openly admitted that he lost in an ign video prior to this, I'm sure he's still skilled regardless but it would make sense to assume he also practiced lol, so if practicing before a presentation puts you on a whole other level then sure.
I think it would be more impressive if they gave a dev some sort of secret boss challenge he's never fought before, then to me if he did so well against it the dev would be on a whole other level
@@novum2915I think what he meant of Japanese devs being on "a whole 'nother level" is that they actually "play" the game. They play the game and are actually trying to get good at it rather than playing it just to playtest and check for bugs. Other devs are usually just playtesters and are not that interested in the game itself. I guess that's what makes Japanese devs on "a whole 'nother level."
@@novum2915 looks like you're doesn't even know many dev doesn't even know the mechanic of their own game lol
Both of you are saying this as if every dev on the FF16 team would have been able to play the game this skillfully, yes obviously there are playtesters and people who just search for bugs and every other role as well, but what I am saying is that I'm sure they didn't just pull a random guy who programs the wall collisions for example lol, the original comment is too broad and general was the main point of my first comment
So what both of you are saying makes perfect sense, I can agree that Japanese devs are dedicated and it's super cool to see them play their games so well, I think of Sakurai with Smash Bros and how good he actually is at Smash, but a dev or a certain group of devs playing their game to make sure it's actually playable and fun is also not the most surprising thing I've ever heard of
@@novum2915 take the L you going down too deep. Ur back is against the 🧱.
This just proved that the dev really put love to their game
@@bryannicholas2130 ?
Probably a bot @@dudem8guy
Meanwhile Blizzard IV devs looking like they picked up a controller for the first time in their lives.
BRO LMAO
Blizzard IV devs? Wtf drugs are you on
The crowd reaction sounds like the mii's in the wii sports bowling alley lmao
These devs know their game in and out. Reminds me of that video of the ARMS tournament where the winner gets to spar with the the creator of the game. The dev wiped the floor with the champion of the tournament without breaking a sweat lmao.
link the vid!
@@S_F_S czcams.com/video/lYs6Bwt0e7o/video.html
that's how game devs should be tbh... if they are passionate with their game and even managed to beat any challenge in their game without breaking a sweat, you know the game is gonna be great and balanced.
@@S_F_SThe ARMS tournament is from 2017, the only one I found where the champion battles the dev czcams.com/video/lYs6Bwt0e7o/video.html
Naoki Yoshida itself also quite skilled hardcore gamers
he used to be very skilled at street fighters to the point he trashed 40+ players and end up has capcom devs nerfed the characters he used
in FFXIV he is also among top parser as Black Mage. not just him, the devs also end up need to nerfed certain mechanics because the devs turn out more skilled than expected than the players itself.
Btw the dev playing is the head of DMC and dragons dogma
This explains a lot
No offense but if that's the case I expected more from him
@@desmondlau1385Weak ass bait, nice try though HAHAHAHA
No he is not.
He was one one of the main designers in DMC and gameplay lead designer in Dragon's Dogma
@@ED-dx7jx ah my bad, at least I was close enough tho lol
When the dev can play their own game and have fun , you know the game gonna be great
unlike blizzard dev when playing diablo 4 huh?
To be fair, that's Ryota Suzuki the combat director of the game and dmc 5 too.
Damn that’s awesome, makes a lot of sense too. No wonder the combat in this game feels so clean
@@ConfusedGeriatriche actually said it’s his masterpiece in this game. Hope it’s not his last game though.
Coming back to this after having done this fight solo but at 35, this fight really does haunt you cause there's a high potential to beat this guy but maintaining his patterns is so tough. Dude even planned out proper counters and loadout positions for a perfect strat and of course he's very solid at the counters. Even upgraded specific skills to compensate the damage needed.
I can't wait for people to hit NG+ and have very interesting tests on this boss.
New game plus you gotta be careful they hit alot harder especially that high level hunt dragon bro is not to be messed with
I struggled a bit with this boss too. Especially when he surrounds you with that ranged sphere attack AND tries to melee you at the same time.
I fought him with the berserker ring and it made the fight really fun because of how it changes the dodging mechanics
The boss isn't hard at all, especially this one. Spam raging fist to destroy its stagger and just abuse titan, then limit break and unleash hell when it's staggered. Svarog is tougher
@@ShowtimeLaw Svarog is a whole different beast of course, but this one isnt exactly easy. not everyone uses raging fists either, i didn't. its difficulty mainly comes from its swing timing, its annoying. now an easy S class is the Chimera, that thing was a joke.
This made combat look like even more fun I can't wait to get good at counters and try the Final Fantasy mode
Played the demo and there is NO WAY I'm gonna be as good as that dude 😭
that was so insane
In the ancient word of the elden lord, "get good". 😂 you will get there.
That's what happens when you pit a DMC dev against a DMC style game. He probably has the top 1% of time playing the DMC titles. Literal thousand of hours.
@@davidpotts7116 just use the rings even on fantasy mode there not hard if you use the ring of timely strikes and ring of focus or what ever its called you can kill the level 93 dragon hunt its like level 50 on your first playthrough pretty easy even at mid 60s
This is Ryota Suzuki himself, the combat director of DMC and FFXVI. From our POV, it's like an amateur writer vs George R R Martin.
I mean this guy literally develops the systems so he put over 1000 hours in it.
Meanwhile, game journalists need reminders on how to jump and dodge
The "game" journalist who played cuphead and can't even pass the tutorial 💀💀💀
There's a reason that the timely accessories are there, now the game journalists can actually complete a game for once.
@@renamamiya3190but they still roasting the game, game is to easy they said 😅
@@renamamiya3190timely accessories assistance is basically a way for developer said "git gud" For gaming journalist or any bad player who cant play this game. Thou i admit i'm still using one of the accessories for torgal only so i can execute combo more flawlessly
It shameful that game journalists aren’t even gamers at times.
Regardless of the character, I always think of flawless combat like this to be a lore-accurate representation of them. This was sick.
Dev: who do you think you are? I create you
What I love about this game is the number of different builds you can have with 8 eikons.
And the planning it takes. You have some very interesting styles out there. Like counter style, or will damage style, or physical damages, or focusing on aerial combos. It rly depends what you prefer.
Yeah I am almost at the end of normal game, and I have a pretty good damage build, where diamond dust does super good stagger, then a bit more fumbling around with normal attacks and a few abilities and then when the boss gets staggered I rain all my abilities on him and get like 100k damage.
He didn’t even use the hurricane to stagger him quicker, what a boss
When combat designer gets to combat with his own combat design.
Honestly, this combat looks amazing, and from what I played in the demo, so much fun. But I also, as a big fan of Max (Maximilian Dood, the guy on the far left) I love that he's here with these guys commenting on this fight with them.
It was cute they asked him to stop to pet the doggo
@@rosenrot234 Yeah. I did as well, and got the achievement really quickly.
Watching this after the cluster that was Diablo 4 ubernerf patch hit different.
If I was that dev, I would have died thousands of time in front of the crowd and quit my job because of the shame lol 😂
This is why you should practice for every presentation
No. It easy to play. 😂
And why would you quit anyways. Stupid reason.
@@kg888 Easy to play he says lmao. I'd like to see you try what he did tho. Also he's underlevel by 15 against an enemy with a LOT of HP.
@@ShiroganeKaiseryou just gotta not get hit, which is pretty easy to do too
@@ShiroganeKaisermost people are under leveled when they do it because of how early you unlock it
I love every single boss and sub boss encounter so far. The mechanics and enemy abilities are incredible. Especially the dragons
He put the controller down the same way a master samurai would their sword
i am happy this one can play its own games so well
Honestly, this is awesome. Exactly what I'd expect from a game dev. Who better to game the system than the boys putting the game on the system?
The dev wasnt playing final fantasy
Dude was playing DMC
Well he did work on DmC 5
Is it obligatory to be a Dante main in Capcom's DMC team
@@redsusoverparadise2700 yes
Honestly it acts and looks like DMC to me.
@@redsusoverparadise2700 the parry does looks like Dante's royal guard
Here after blizzard's diablo 4 clown fiesta of a video
This is just as satisfying as watching the creators of Cuphead playing their game.
Oh my god the music ! Puts me in my feelings every time! Final fantasy never misses when it comes to the music! I love it soooo much! It’s sooo cool seeing game devs play their own games! I always wondered if game devs play their own games! I wonder if nomura plays kingdoms hearts?
Pay attention to the bottom right. He's not even mashing buttons that hard like most of us do.
fans when they lose are like "this is dumb, do devs even play their own game?!"
this guy is like "well actually, yes"
came here after the diablo 4 dev gameplay to relax a bit
I mean this shows why its a good game they create a game that they themselves would actually enjoy playing
this was so amazing to watch. truly amazing.
oh my goodness that was sickkkk
if lvl 45 enemies have around 200-300k in NORMAL mode...i wonder how much hp endgame bosses in final fantasy mode will have. and what kind of damage clive will be capable of dishing out. GOD THERES LESS THAN 24 HOURS FQOIwjefoi2jeOFI@J@OIJ
They probably have millions but it’s not too bad you deal decent stagger damage in new game plus
Beating those feels so good but I needed a lot of tries here and there. x)
I need to practice that Heatwave counter
After having played it myself for a while I'm already picking up some ideas. I might have overlooked Heatwave and Rook's Gambit.
They do have the fastest cooldown if you pull them off correctly
And I did not know you could put Judgment Bolt on Phoenix. Totally changing things up now with some mix and match
It totally depends on your game style. These abilities are counter abilities so not good for everyone. I’ve seen some wild builds out there, like ones where eikon abilities enhance each other for insane damage. Like will of the wisp from ifrit and the lightning bolt from ramuh, ifrit ability actually hits the bolt and increases dmg even further to insanity. Every ability in this game is good depending on build.
@@No1AldamonFanGirlyou can put any ability on anything if you master it. Across 8 eikons that leads to insane number of builds.
Heatwave is the best basic in the game.
THIS is how you showcase your love for your own game.
This game really is a lot of fun to play
Wait,is that Maximilian up there?
This was a legendary day for him as well.
Didnt expect to see Max on the left.
WOW what a pleasure to watch!! That was amazing holy!
I'll be honest i didnt watch this video when it was release cuz i dont want getting spoiled. After i managed to reach this hunt and finally defeated the S monster with only 2 tries, i can confirm that Titan is the only Meta you can count on during S notorius mark. For me Raging fist is really good to decrease stagger bar.
Gigaflare is a chad and so is Odin's blade
I stuck with rumuh, Garuda and Phoenix for this fight
Atlas is probably the easiest S-rank hunt to normal parry, so Titan isn't necessary. But considering the other choice at this point was ramuh, I guess Titan is mandatory.
Coming back to this after my initial playthrough and yeah you can see how easy the game can be when you know what your doing. Really wish both Bosses and especially adds were tougher in the game. Combat is so sick
meanwhile Diablo 4 devs play their game on easy difficulty and still die 😂
Woke devs 😂
I've just finished the game and I didnt even know/used half of the attacks and counter he used lol The way he did this fight was soo coool !! While when I fight it just looks so random XD
I love final fantasy soooo much! Thank you square Enix for another amazing game! Can’t wait for Verum Rex and Kingdom Hearts 4 !
I fucking love this game
This guy plays amazingly well.
I wanna see him be stylish with the trials
when devs are actual top tier gamers
Or when the game is just easy as hell.
@@user-ht4kp7py2c My opinion of his fight here, changed dramatically after having played the game and beating it.
He’s really not that good at all. But that might be a bit unfair because he’s likely very nervous playing in front of a crowd, and that adds a level of difficulty I’m not facing at home lol
But if we were to judge based on the gameplay alone, it’s not impressive considering it is quite an easy game. Haven’t started FF mode yet though
@@Snyde91 I beat the game on action mode and it was a terrible, no challenge, repetitive experience, and deleted game from library. Easily one of my most disappointing gaming experiences ever.
@@user-ht4kp7py2c I didn’t feel as strongly about it as you but I can understand that. I enjoyed the game overall and the Eikon fights were the highlight for me. Going to leave it for 6 months or so and then try FF mode to see if it’s a fun challenge, but I really can’t see it being too difficult unless it adds a lot of mechanics to fights. The dodge-window is way too forgiving for that imo
We I kill the lv 50 s class bounty on lv38 and when up 2 lvs only to 40.
level really doesn't matter if you got skills(without the time accessories)
They should do this more when releasing games.
No idea why he didn’t have lightening rod. It is completely broken.
it's dog what?
@@turenaxelightning rod plus gigaflare is the most busted thing in the game.
*making notes*
Because he has a counter build. He has literally only counter abilities.
@Diablo wanna showcase your game? this is how it's done
Final devil may cry Fantasy 😊
I dont play the game but thought its a perfect exhibition, dev showed off a wide range of moves proving it can be done as another commentator said "once you git gud".
Dude is an absolute unit lol
game feels GOOD to play in
I was thinking about buying ff16 until I saw this clip and love dmc so I’m definitely buying
My best finish was Odin NG+ with Zantetsuken.
this is why i love square enix. their devs ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME.
How do you other devs don't?
@@jamesjiao other devs only playtest thats it they really dont even like the games they make
What your fighting style?
I fight in style.
I beaten the dragon 16 lvl gap but it took some time and potions of course.
I mean he was in development, he was there when that boss learnt it's techniques, to him it's movements are mere childs play.
It'd be an insult to say that this is the extent of the devs skills!
Can William P from ctr do stream like this?
Never came across this situation in game. All monsters were easy and about the same level as me
Those are specific bosses you get from a bounty list later in the game. They're rank "S" in terms of difficulty but they're not so hard once you learn some of the patterns. The level gap doesn't matter. I had more or less the same gap when I killed Atlas. Next rank "S" boss after this one is lvl 50 and you can defeat it with a 10-15 level gap all the same. It's one of the easiest Final Fantasy I've ever played and even those bounty elite bosses (that are optional) don't even come close to the difficulty of some story bosses during the PS2-PS3 era of the franchise.
Dude I was higher level but still got my butt kicked. I was also alone too, no Jill to help give moral support for me here.
Im findiung combat hard i ended up sticking on all the trinkets I could and i still suck LMAO
Hey the 500HP one you get late game and get the exp one so you level faster
In this corner we have the Chad Dev that clearly cares about the game to have a high skill in it VS. .....game journalists who can barely even look around and hafta stop and look at their controller to jump
I did it at level 35. I was proud of myself till i seen this. 😂
How did Max get here?
I took on a level 50 mark in FFXVI at level 38 I died the first time learning the strategy but after that it was a fight and I beat him I don't have any real complaints in the combat of the game
When the boss started to fight the God who created their world
oh ok
turns out this isn't even challenging and the game is easy as fuck even on its "hardest" modes lmao. good ass game though I enjoyed it thoroughly
W dev
My respect for not using the ring of timely focus/evasion
Wow i never thought Diablo 3 is like this
apparently I'm better at this game than I thought.
Diablo 4 could never
i killed svarog at lvl 30 or smth, being underleveled in this game is fun
LEEMEETO BRRRAKE!!!
Bro nicer than me lol
Is he playing the game using English dub or Japanese sub? I can’t tell
so this is dmc's royal guard basically
would have played this if it was on pc big time .
My first official loss lmaoooo
Imagine if people snoop around the game files and they just find an unenabled taunt feature for the game💀
Meanwhile, diablo iv devs can’t even play their game right during streaming. Shows, how bad the gameplay had become.
I beat Svarog at lvl 35 :D
weird how your perspective completely changes after you've gone through final fantasy mode and know how to parry with odin. then again he's doing this with limited eikons
What Garuda skill is that in 3:13?
It's called rook's gambit, you do a backstep then you counter (has a stronger effect if an enemy attack was dodged)
The devs really just have fun and not going all out, realising this is a promotion, we didn't know how far his play style actually, this is just for promotion, you could see that he took it easy
Japanese devs play their games… Western Devs on the other hand… Not so sure.
"Game devs never play the games they make"
can someone explain how he got the amped heatwave parry on a melee attack at 2:45
Pretty sure that move is a mix of melee that also launches out a projectile when the slash hits .
wow devs cant even finish a +2 key
damnn bro