Betty Is NOT Petty: Self Sacrifice and Love | Adventure Time / Fionna and Cake Analysis
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- Betty isn't petty. She's definitely impulsive and a bit obsessive, but petty is not a word I'd use to describe her even though they rhyme. Yes this is the third video on Betty I've made somehow and there's still so much to cover. BUT, the brainrot is very real so I must speak. Hope you enjoy!
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Simon was repeating the same cycle of self-sacrifice, he was happy to throw his sanity away just to help Fionna and Cake. It was a selfless decision, but it speaks of how little Simon values his own life, he was only able to find purpose in his ability to sacrifice for others. Just like how Betty probably didn't value herself much so she always put Simon's wants before her own, sacrificing for him gave her purpose.
Betty wasn't calling out Simon for being a bad boyfriend or anything, she wanted to stop him from repeating those same mistakes.
Exactly! It was to show how much he meant to her and the extent she went was also to prove that he should be able to live for himself instead of worrying about her constantly.
YAS!!! I hate that everyone calls Simon selfish or Betty a bad girlfriend. She's not, and he's not. Both have their flaws. Both are incredible self-sacrificial to the point they devalue their own lives, and Betty was just trying to steer him away from that same path. I think Simon may have autism, and Betty could have ADHD. They both show signs of Neurodivergent personalities, and I love it!
@@auburneytuckerson2959 Simon not being able to pick up Betty's hints until being directly told could definitely read as a form of neurodivergence, I've seen some people mention it too.
@@matti.8465 Yaaas! He even did the T-Rex hands in the Destiny episode when the gang broke out of the library. 🤣 I was just screaming aUtIsTiC!!! I did the same with Keswick from T.U.F.F. Puppy.
I can't believe that people are describing Betty as petty. She helped Simon see his own value by showing him his flaws. How is that petty?? Thank you again for making such compelling videos with an understanding of nuance
I'm glad you enjoyed! I completely agree with the seeing his own value part like 100%.
You easily have the best, most reasonable and studied takes on this show I’ve seen. I’ve been getting so sick of the sensationalist “PB IS SO EVIL!!!” or “BETTY IS PETTY AND MANIPULATIVE” I keep seeing in the fandom. This channel is a breath of fresh air
This is genuinely one of the nicest comments I’ve ever gotten 😭
People only say those things because the show didnt end the way they wanted it to
Completely agree@@Mabidemonstrations
Honestly I agree with you. Most other creators are so sensationalist about this like you stated. On another note I do wanna say I know I may seem crazy for saying this but even as toxic as it may be I find how Betty is and her devotion to Simon so romantic and adorable. I know the chances are slim but I'd love for A guy to act like betty towards me as I would love the dedication and love from them. it's so cute how Betty try's to make a cure for ageing. I mean all she had to do is put Simon his ice crown so he'd be immoral again then go to that island where finns mom lived as there quite advanced. Stay there and make a whole research facility to cure aging so she can be with simon. again it's so cute and adorable that she goes so far as to save him even against his wishes. she loves him so much that she disregards his own wishes just to save him. I honeslty in my heart of hearts would love to have a partner like this it'd make me so happy i'd cry of happy tears every day. Though I doubt I would find someone as dedicated and devoted as betty. and I know it;s toxic bc Idc I find it cute and adorable if a guy was like that to me. anyways enough of me rambling about me wanting a crazy devoted partner. if you read this all thanks for spending the time for doing so and have a good day :)
Betty and Simon are so perfect for each other but WOW are they also the perfect storm of disaster flaws that feed into each other. It's beautiful but also so heartbreaking at times because it's just so *real*, how relationships are imperfect and weird and confusing and hard. But when you love someone enough, things that are more obvious from the outside, red flags, green flags; they all turn into just flags, and what might be normal for your relationship might sound psychotic to someone else. Those snapshots we get at their love at first sight feel like they've already been married for ages with how they just bask in each other's presence.
I love how their relationship is so amazing and so tragic at the same time. It's sooooooo great to see how much they care for each other because of it and seeing the backstory was perfection.
What was left of betty had clearly grown beyond Simon, but kind enough to help simon speed run his grief. We've seen that she was more giving than him when their relationship started but we dont see the rest. Which makes it really unfair when they're branded as toxic.
Betty's story in AT is grief, and trying to get what she had back. Not a woman giving her all for a one sided relationship. Same with simon in F&C.
I mostly agree, based on the Casper-Nova story, I would say Betty was finally putting herself first (even if only a little), making it a bit more of an equal relationship. I think Betty may have been slightly annoyed at Simon (even if she was more concerned than annoyed) for throwing away the second chance Betty sacrificed herself for.
And while Betty was happy to go along with Simon's way, it ultimately resulted in Betty/Golb. But hey, she did say she had no regrets, so in the end it worked out, Simon even got closure!
Hell, even when she is a god she ends up going out of her way to help Simon, she's practically the opposite of petty
I can definitely understand Betty being annoyed, however, I can easily see it as her being annoyed that Simon doesn't see himself the way that she sees him. To understand how much she cared about him, I think that Casper and Nova storyline shows that really well and the "I have no regrets" moment shows that it isn't out of malicious intent.
I love the final conclusion about Simon and Betty’s relationship SO much, because I went through the exact same realization as Simon did regarding the relationship with my ex and Fionna and Cake made me realize it. The way it just hits so close to home is such a unique feeling.
It's great that the show was able to connect to you on such a personal level. It's amazing when art is able to do that!
I really think Betty had turn the lich into those geometric shapes because she was tired of hearing him wine while she was trying to deal with and help Simon out. Some part of that might have been gold but I feel like that was mostly Betty. She's like shut up screaming to me I'm trying to help my boyfriend
I can easily see that being the case, but also it could be because The Lich ended the world which also represents her normal life with Simon.
@@Kev-D-OG that invading must have been super annoyed that Simon was going to try to become the ice King on purpose now. Like the levels of frustration someone must feel
I mean Betty is essentially The God- outside time and space of all universes but seemingly aware of everything everywhere, and present everywhere all at once as well. So it makes sense that as a transcendent god she would be subtly watching and telling Simon the answers hes asking for in an indirect way. Which she did- Simon 'accidentally' summons Fionna and cake directly while doing a ritual to Golbetty to be shown the path/way. Fionna and cake mirror Simon's psyche and outlook on life- but Fionna directly commentates on Simon and Betty's relationship and points out what she believes should have happened (like asking if Simon goy on the bus to travel with Betty to see petroglyphs, and him being confused).
All of that to me was Betty subtlety giving Simon the answers he was asking for- but when he finally gets to Betty and still can't understand, she directly uses her powers to put him in a period of time where he will directly be able to find and see a representation of his and her relationship with each other in a concisely out together game. Beth is also there to point out the things he should have done to get a 'better ending' for both characters- this is the point he finally realizes the disbalance of his and Betty's relationship.
This is a great breakdown of their relationship!
She is the opposite of petty but I do find her a little selfish. In my opinion her love for simon is her choice. Even if she was willing to sacrifice her self, she only had to do that because of her own selfishness. One thing I didn't like about Fiona and cake is that the ice king is seemingly unredeemable. It ruins the ice crown being a metaphor for dementia or other mental illnesses for me. I think it's interesting that Simon accepts betty as golb but she couldn't accept Simon as Ice king.
I understand where you're coming from but I personally would consider what she does for Simon very selfless, however, when she's Magic Betty you could definitely see it as her being selfish and longing for her lover. I do think that if Patience didn't mess things up with Betty though that she would've been able to accept Ice King as we saw in Elements.
@@Kev-D-OG she wasn't selfish towards Simon but I feel like she would have let the world end if it meant they could be together. I do forget about her being a magic man technically. She handled it pretty well all things considered.
you know its a good day when Kev D. OG posts
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Thanks for the crabapples, Kev ✌️ Great video, as always!
Thanks so much!
Betty brainrot is REAL, ive done nothing but think and analyze her character
She was such a well wrtitten character since her intro, im so glad they gave her her moment in fiona and cake she really needed that
Glad to know we’re in the same boat. She really is the moment.
I love betty...though I do feel a bit mixed because on one hand...what happened happened. No what ifs could have changed what they actually did and their choices. And it did feel like Betty did set him on the route so that he'd have to let her go which felt a bit unfair to me because she didn't let him go...so why does he have to? It came across a bit like Simon was selfish which I felt was a bit unfair...especially when I feel like if Simon followed all the stuff she did to get him back...woukdnt he have talked to fin about what she saw up on Mars and how she gave up that trip. I kindof wish they had pointed out even if he HAD gotten on that bus with her...he wouldn't have been able to go on that trip because he didn't gave a plane ticket.
And unlike her who kind of invited herself on his trip with enough time to plan....he had a limited time due to her letter and rushing.
If maybe they pointed out he could have told her he'll meet her there later once he got a ticket...or that they could talk on the phone and that he'll wait for her to come back from her trip since her trip was just that...a trip. She was going to come back eventually.
Though I do like how it's a mix of how she does tend to be impulsive/not always think things through in the long run is both a strength and weakness for her that doesn't invalidate her feelings.
I also think a interesting contrast in them is they both love eachother...but she is often willing to ignore some of his thoughts or advice sometimes while he tends to believe her at her word a bit too often when she says she wants something....like how he tried to push for her to share the limelight of discovering the book but sge insisted she wanted him to take the limelight. How when she admitted she had another trip he let her come along because she seemed to find her trip with him a really good opportunity herself. Or how he used her words in tge letter about wanting to be with him narrow his focus so it didn't occur he could go with her.
And how she we nt insane trying to cure him which he clearlybwouldnt approve of but how he wants to get to her just as badly but has to res p ect that he can't get hurt along the way because sge wouldn't want that.
Good point. I were thought about the same thing.
i wish youd talk more about her magic betty era, i feel like thats where she peaked
Magic Betty changed the game.
Betty being petty/selfish is actually the most insane take i’ve ever heard
Hoo Im excited to read this fan comic now
It’s super great so definitely check it out!
these have been some of my favorite analysis videos from the series, can't wait to see what you do afterwards!
Thanks so much! 😭
@@Kev-D-OGgot a great future on the platform!
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I love your analyses; I watch all your videos!
Thanks so much! 😭
For a second I thought the title said Betty Isn’t Pretty lmao 💀💀💀
That's an impossibility right there. She served in a torn bathrobe.
@@Kev-D-OG TRUE
I thought the title said Betty isn’t Betty so I was like WTF does that mean?
Keep the good work man!
Thanks so much!
It wasnt simply dedication, it was legit obsession.
1:24 AHHH WHITE GUY JUMPSCARE
lmao 😂
And I would say Golb has to have some kind of influence over her. They share a form. So if you wanna say it was a dick move what she did, isn't dick move a compromise between chaos god and lovingly naïve woman.
Yeah! I'm curious how much control Betty has over GOLB or if they combined into a new being altogether.
these videos have been such a great analysis of this series dude i would so love an entire analysis of the whole show from you haha
That means a lot to hear! I have lots of ideas to cover so I can’t imagine how long it’d be covering the entire show. It’d definitely be hours and hours long 😭
I would like to thank you for preserving the reality of AT, if it wasn't for you people would be gaslit into believing things about characters fueled by the worst jumped conclusions and toxicity
Thanks so much! That means a lot to hear 😭
Imagine becoming an Eldritch Deity beyond comprehension after spending half the show trying to save Simon from the Crowns influence, and the next time you see the mfr he's 2 seconds away from putting the crown back on.
He's very lucky she used Beth to give him an emotional maturity reality check and make him actually understand his decision making and hers instead of just turning his ass into a garbage can with a basketball hoop on it
NOT THE BASKETBALL TRASH CAN 😂😂😂
im pretty sure its literally just a "basket case" which essentially just means useless or unnattainable which is fucking awesome i love that detail sm
@@nvirdf OH. I never thought about it like that!
I think she did it for the shits and giggles
I think Betty is petty because she wouldn't stop trying to teach her boyfriend.
I don't know what think about her, aside from petty, but for she was selfish and acting like a child. For me Simon supposed to be more mature and understandable than her.
If writers make Simon mature and Betty child-like (it was as a opposite in spin-off), that could work. And "Casper and Nova" lesson should be for Betty.
If it rhymes then its true
People are considering Betty Groff to be PETTY????
I can’t believe it either 😔
Yes, why else would this video be made?
#bettybrainrot
And with that we started a movement...
they forgot the r
Nah the Betty hate is crazy 😭
@@Kev-D-OG no i mean the other people calling her petty forget the letter r
@@heinoussage OH TRUE
Simon is autistic, so he has to be told. I'm saying this as an autistic 24 yo woman, lol. It's not being babied.
My apologies if the wording was insensitive. That's just the way I've most commonly seen it described especially due to the size difference between Beth and Shermy.
@@Kev-D-OG Nah, it's cool. I understand. He was put in the body of a child, and even as himself, he acts like that little broody teenager in episodes 4 and 5. It was funny, cause in that episode, Prismo is like that adult older brother taking care of him. Both are depressed, but I just want Simon to get a hug. He needs a hug! 😢
He absolutely needs a hug@@auburneytuckerson2959
(If you're confused, this is a response to "Simon is autistic")
Ummmm............. Here's one important caveat: We can only speculate because it has not been confirmed.
@@revolution1237 Ofc. Many characters show traits but aren't confirmed.