Berserk's Weirdest Theory!
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There was that interview 5 years ago where Miura said the ending was coming up and there’s one hint: Void
Void is key to everything with the Godhand, the old ones, the new ones, Griffith and allegedly doing the work of the Idea of Evil. Was Void the Griffith of his time, or did he transcend space and time to be the ultimate puppet master?
‘Void’ in Japanese mythology and Shintoism is the 5th element. Look at the old (replaced/ superseded) members of the Godhand… They all resemble some part of the natural world; frost/ water, wood(fauna?), ash/ embers(insects?), flora/ fertility… Void was previously a Sage, likely an advisor to Gaeseric (some believe, who created the Crimson Behelit) who summoned “angels” while he was imprisoned in that tower by Gaeseric. Although unclear, it seems likely at some stage that Void somehow had a (God) hand at corrupting the natural order of things, at the very least, the eclipse and branding process took on more of a process of bloodshed, of a brutalist and sadistic nature, where feeding the GH’s Apostles becomes part of the sacrifice and the overall aim of the ritual. This is worlds away from what we witnessed during his sacrifice of Gaeseric’s empire; even though Gaeseric’s love interest is seen as branded (along with the kingdom itself), she appears unbrutalised, with no fatal wounds, it’s almost as if she had her life force drawn from her(juxtaposing Casca’s experience in Femto’s eclipse)… In conclusion, it is likely Void had a hand in effing stuff up and perverting/ corrupting the natural order of things. We may even go so far as to say that knowing SK and Flora, that he knew the old GH would perish, and via the cycle of GH initiations, had a (God)hand in recruiting the rest of the members, who each have a (God) hand in the perversion of the natural world.
@@ausgamecollector ohh shit thats dope imagining if the old godhand wasnt even evil and it was all voids plan to take them out
@@Mannnnnnnn I believe that SK (at the end of Guts’ vision in the Berserk Armour) with the assistance of Flora, who summoned the 4 Elemental Kings, likely had a showdown with the Old Godhand. However, Void having the ability to manipulate/ bend space, couldn’t be defeated, subsequently escaping, leaving the kingdom in ruin.
This would explain why Flora was outcasted from Elfheim for doing something taboo, it explains the mass sacrifice I’m parallel with the kingdom being physically ‘torn asunder’.. Although we don’t know at what point/ how the Apostles started appearing, it also explains why SK has been slaying them and collecting Behelits(demonstrated by him unsuccessfully striking Void during Femto’s eclipse) in the eventual creation of the Sword of Actuation. It could also be why Flora calls the GH ‘Angels’, as perhaps the original 4 were angels and not known as ‘Godhand’ per se. This goes with the theme of Void making chaos out of order, but, my two cents.
@@ausgamecollector well said.
VOID HAS WINGS TOO BUT PEOPLE THINK ITS A CAPE
This is kinda out there but there is definitly a possibility that the idea of evil and Godhand either get replaced or mutate based on what beliefs are dominating at that point in human history.
I think you’re on the money. As the collective consciousness evolves, progresses or regresses, so too do the concepts and needs we manifest. It’s like a memetic evolution.
I think you missed one, that guy who’s head is literally just a mouth.
Fr lol
He got too excited about the Poseidon guy and completely forgot about mouth boy
yeah "mouth"
@@MK-vi2cm head god
@@Youtbe069 god head
I thought it was a vagina lol
Zodd being skull knights beast of darkness is probably just wrong for a couple of reasons: when zodd first sees guts in the armor he speaks with sk about it which I always took as them having fought with sk using it. then there’s the actual shape of the armor, when guts uses it, it changes to reflect his inner beast which is how we get the hell hound design, it was originally in the shape of a skull meaning that’s probably what gaiserics beast was. Finally, zodd is the godhands errand boy which wouldn’t line up with doesn’t add up with gaiseic wanting them dead. Even guts’ beast wants to mutilate Griffith so I can’t imagine gaiserics switching teams. Everything else is interesting but that part threw me for a loop.
One thing I think is interesting, is when Zodd is first introduced he’s said to be 200-300 years old, and it seems as if maybe he’s seen at least one other eclipse event. But it kind of makes sense that maybe the 200-300 is legend, and actually hes 1000 years old and is a super powerful apostle who saw Gaseiric physically die at the eclipse event (wearing the berserk armor) and be bound in spirit as skull knight. Either he’s been fighting skull knight for 200-300 years and just somehow knows what the Berserk armor is, or he’s been fighting the Skull knight for 1000 years since Gaeseric’s time, and has seen berserk amor first hand.
When I first read, I always thought Skull Knight becoming the astral spectral being was directly linked to his use of the Berserk armor, I thought the armor made him into that. But now I guess not because of the “taboo” that was mentioned, and the “memory” the berserk armor shows of Gaeseric dying at the eclipse event, implying he was wearing the armor when he died
@@big_hat_logan so your saying gaiseric is skull night
@@tannerfishalow4238 its practically confirmed that he once was Gaiseric. For starters, multiple characters referred to him as ''majesty'', he himself confirmed that he once used berserker armor and we saw memories of HIM wearing it during Void's ascension eclipse which was 1000 years ago - same time as Gaiseric was king. We also see his love interest dying during eclipse and later in same chapter he visits her grave so yeah i guess we can pretty much safely assume that Skull Knight is in fact Gaiseric
I always just assumed Zodd was an apostle of one of the previous Godhand members, most likely void. I don't think he's all that important to the overarching story.
I doubt zodd is sk darkness, he is an apostle, that means he must have been a human at one point, furthermore he is subservient to the Godhand, essentially Griffith dog, I doubt he is an inner beast of darkness, cause as we’ve seen from Guts, the beast is pure rage and all it wants is death and chaos, zodd does like battle, but he is not chaotic. And he is very stoic at times.
Zodd cares way more for fighting then just killing, he had a chance to kill Guts after fight with Ganishka but he didnt because he respected him and wanted a fair fight.
And he's just 300 years SK is more than 1000 years
I see what you’re saying but he sacrificed hundreds of his friends then flew down and raped his best friends girl in front of him while demons held him down and gouged his eye out he has to die
Was it ever confirmed that Zodd was an Apostle?
@@Wifgargfhaurhyou bull $h!ting me right cause if Zoe isnt a apostle than the sea god is a planet buster
I think belief is a major thing in Berserk. Ricket's ability to land a blow on Griffith is what made me start thinking about it. Both believed he deserved it.
I like the video, I do disagree with almost everything aside from your idea of how previous godhand members disappeared and got replaced by current ones. It does make sense and it's interesting indeed! Even tho I disagree with the rest, it's still a like from me for the effort you did put into making this theory and connecting the dots, good luck my friend!
Yea I don't see how he thinks that guy is a lion or meant to appear as one. It's just a big mouth and a neck decoration
Yea most of what he’s saying are massive reaches, Zod being half of the King? I’ve never heard that theory before and is nuts, why would he be split into 2 totally different beings? Makes no sense, and the first godhand looks nothing like a lion, I’ve no idea how he’s seeing that. And his theory about the gods simply being forgotten makes no sense, since most people don’t know any of them at all, the only one we’ve seen is Slan appearing in the flames of the heretics, no one knows who Void is, and he’s still there.
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- theirs been quite a few theories about zod being half of the skull knight, its not just this guy theorising on it
A theory that I have, when the time comes for a new God Hand member to be made, the oldest God Hand member becomes the Crimson Behelt and goes to Earth to end up in the hands of whomever becomes the next member.
I have a theory about Guts having a "chance" against Femto because hes lacking two of his sacrifices. Like's Femto is on 98% load and not 100% completed.
The old members was probably killed by Skull knight before void got to him or the berserk armor.
I’ve thought of this too but I don’t think it matters because the thought already made it’s impact (Griffith whole heartedly deciding to sacrifice them is what it boiled down to).
Then again you could argue that if that’s all that maters then what if all of the Branded escaped (let’s say Skull Knight comes to the rescue much earlier, how would Femto be born without sustenance from his sacrifices?)? At what point is the ritual complete (what percentage of sacrifices are needed for an Apostle or God Hand to realize their full power?)?
Possible but sometimes I feel like it can be reading too much into it. I think the ritual is mostly to do with them losing their humanity and for apostles and such to celebrate and feast versus the sacrifices giving them power.. but as I think about this. Why would a brand be needed then? Maybe to allow the humans to enter their world for that moment. Maybe the brand is a key and not just some mark of sacrifice.
I don't think skull knight killed the old God hand, SK looks like he's still trying to figure out how to do it.
I think the God hand killed each other because the God hand are the most vile creatures in existence, they were born from betraying the people who loved them the most. The apostles are forced to work for them due to their overwhelming power but I believe the godhand constantly plot against one another in order to gain more power.
They only look united now because they have a common goal of returning to the physical world.
@@noxturn8620 Quite possible. Or the "Angelic" Godhand seen before are just Sonia's imaginings of the 4 pre-void ones.
I doubt Skull Knight was able to kill any Godhand members at all.
This is certainly an odd theory, but I can’t refute it. Miura was certainly a genuine, who knows what symbolism he imbedded.
Genuine genius** that's what you meant to write correct ?
A genuine what?
I think it's less about gods being forgotten and more about the idea that evil can't ever be defeated.
So much of Berserk is about glorifying 'The Struggle' - the value in perservering no matter how life treats you. And one of the hardest things in life is accepting that certain things will never change, like corruption, crime, or the weaknesses we so often see in fellow human beings. The Godhand might simply represent all this. The idea of 'defeating' the Godhand; 'defeating' Griffith might eventually be seen as a weakness of Guts. Maybe what Guts has to learn in order to win is that vengeance can take you a lot of places, but those places may not be where you want to be. And that staying and protecting his new friends and family are more important. Perhaps learning to let go of the pain of the past and embracing hope, he gains a new kind of strength. A strength to protect those he cherishes. Something he couldn't do before.
Love this!
So it's like from the movie Coco
You will be gone forever if no one is still alive to remember your existence.
The older Godhands experienced the final death.
The fact that they showed the Old God Hand = probably a huge hint. I wonder how they ended up.
Wouldn’t it make more sense that Zodd is a Gusts like character to King Gizerik? Guts has been carrying a Behilit given to him (fatefully put in his path given directly to him) and with the latest chapter putting guts in a very Behilit popping moment, if he does pop the Behilit, we would see a direct 1:1 of King Gizerik and Zodd to the story of Griffith and Guts
What is cool about this theory is that you can see how this maybe would have played into the final conflict. The people stop wanting/giving strength to the current godhand, and their desires for a hero who struggles, a true hero of the people, gives guts the power up he needs to stand toe to toe with the godhand. In the end, guts wouldn’t have been fighting for revenge, but for freedom. It would have been a beautiful end to his character arc.
I hear ya. I’ve thought of this too. I think it’s a little too convenient of a solution though; something that Miura considered and doesn’t want to do because it would diminish too much of what’s already been established by his world building/Idea of Evil/God Hand/Void.
I do know it may be too simplistic, but the question remains, how will guts stand against the godhand. The berserker armor and apostles are one thing but the godhand are a different beast. I just have this vision of the final battle with guts, hair white, white berserker armor, standing against femto, with the true characteristics of guts and Griffith laid bare for the world. To have guts become the hero we as readers know he is, and the world to see the monster we as readers know Griffith to be.
Now that we know it’s continuing, these next few years seeing how it ends will be a delight and a gift. I can’t wait to start getting these new chapters.
I find it interesting that this God Hand seems to be based more off of Greek Gods, while the new one is based more around Buddhist ideas - Speak no evil (Conrad, since he has no eyes or ears, but a portruding mouth), see no evil (Void since he has no eyes), hear no evil (Ubik since he has no ears), do no evil (Slan since she's based around lust which generally revolves around doing sexual acts), also like you mentioned in the video we all know no one believes in Greek Gods anymore, while Buddhism is still very much thriving which is a pretty cool parallel, intended or not.
The god hand is also based off heavily the cenebites from hellraiser
@@thedarkroom6416 Your right but miaru does the mythos way better because once the behelit opens your offered the choice to become a demon or a member of the god hand if your chosen with the cenobites your directly dragged down to hell as soon as you open the box that fucking sucks miura did a much better spin also there isn't a sense of hopelessness in berserk as you can harm demons with massive swords you cannot do anything to harm the cenobites what so ever from what i've seen
It could be a visual representation just how much time has passed since Skull Knights kingdom fell to now. They could have had more of a polytheistic religion similar to the Greek/Roman gods to current day Berserk where we have a singular church focused on the Falcon of Light
Seriously it's based on Christianity Griffith is the Antichrist deceiving the world void is Satan and of course guts is Jesus always sacrificing himself no matter the pain
@@tysolbohan6446 it's a bit hard to harm the Godhand, we have only seen attempts that all fail. Yes you can kill the demons we don't know about the godhand.
am i the only one who thinks the first godhand looks nothing like a lion ??
Zod being skull knight's own beast of darkness manifested is interesting but, as i understand it, skull knight has been running around since the trolling incident 1000 years before the current story and zod has only been around for about 300 years according to his monologue right before griffith breaks one of his horns. Plus, zod doesn't seem to be a completely blood hungry crazy person who's only interested in killing, he's more interested in fighting strong opponents and says so multiple times.
So, if the God Hand dies off when people stop believing them, could Griffith live forever? He has a new body for the physical realm and is taking a far more active role in the world. That makes it hard to stop believing in them. Could part of his plan (or a byproduct of it) be to forever be enshrined as a God Hand?
I mean, it's kind of hard to stop believing a guy exists if he can knock on your door and break your nose if you declare you don't believe in him.
It makes sense that Miura would incorporate some kind of mechanism to account for different world religions and how they change in prominence throughout history. Why else did Griffith just happen to take on the form of a religious icon that happens to be the most prominent religious force in that culture at the time?
Dude with the beard on the far left looks exactly like the Kushan emperor
Well we do know the church was part of the new plan to weaken the forces capable of stopping the IoE. Emphasis on the "new" part of that bc if there's a new then there must be an old right? One way or another those 4 are the old and your theory explains what happened to them as well as any other I've heard. I think you're on the right track and possibly even closer than that.
I love your videos. I send them to all my friends. I swear you cracked the code
Appreciate that! 😁
What if skull knights motives is to replace void and take his position as the head of the Godhand.
i just thought of this bc the end of this video, but why are those branded peoples corpses down there. like if they were branded for an eclipse they would have been eaten, so why. tons of different reasons could be the case but its just something i never thought of before
Now what’s the inspiration for the tall think one without a face standing between Slann and Void?
i was wondering the same thing lol
I was wonderimg the same but she is not Slan. I got confused reading this comment.
I have heard how some have jokingly called it vagina face, or, fuck face. I think it could be just an expression of people at the time worshiping the feminine/fertility/etc.
Perhaps the 4 changing god hand are the 4 great spirits either corrupted or just the manifestation of their evil/destructive side that man fears and the 5 is always Void-Griffith are what the idea of evil mentioned the will. Also there seems to be a resister/Opposing will in each incarnation aswell, skull knight and guts.
Isn't this Poseidon you're talking about actually Ganishka in his ascended form? It even goes hand in hand with his powers, i.e. becoming lightning.
While the design looks similar I think the particular proto god hand represent weather worshiping/beliefs that are prominent within beliefs system like polytheism. Not exactly Poseidon or Shiva. Hence it could be very much be the "storm god" itself, a god of lightning/thunder/sea/sky/etc.
@@crozraven You didn't address my question though...
@@crozraven so that means he's like Baal in the Norse mythology, the God of rain and dew similar to Lord Indra but I don't feel like he should be called Shiva as Shiva is the ultimate destructor/mahakaal while Ganishka becomes blindly arrogant in his apostle form
You know what freakin kills me about this entire series? How I've grown to understand Griffith. He's a total monster, but you understand why and you empathize. Yes we want him dead, but his Dream is beautiful.
I totally get what ur saying tho. At some points it seems like he created something good with people and apostles fighting together but then u think they are only fighting an enemy of his own creation to make himself look like Christ! Idk my brain hurts now
@@jaywills5898 But thats what a god's ultimate will is right? To receive the glory and praise by everything under it because it deserves everything. To become the 'savior' they can lean on whether in destruction or salvation.
Agreed. I sympathize with Griffith but at the same time, I want him to pay for his sins. That's what you call a great villain.
@@jaywills5898
Yep. It's like the antagonist from 20th century boys where the villain created a virus and turned the world into chaos. Then he's proceed to created a cure for the virus so he's became the "hero" of the story.
@The Spell Alchemist very true, but that's what makes it inspiring. Look at how he made Guts wanna be his equal.
I see similarities to the sea gods heart to the Idea of Evil, where it has small humanoid eyes on mass organic tissue in a similar fashion. I actually didnt think about Zodd and Skull Knight being the same person that makes a lot of sense actually with how both "Mentor" Guts during the story in their own way, and their rivalry.
I'd assume the God Hand works like The Phantom Troupe and just recruit new members when needed, all preordained thanks to causality of course. Now idk what happened to them for sure but I believe Skull Knight probably killed them offscreen, my only evidence being when a God Hand member shows up in our world hes there too. The bitter irony he managed to kill 4 members already, yet still cant vanquish Void after all this time.
Either skull night killed them, void sacrificed them or were reabsorbed or something
@@tannerfishalow4238 I actually came up with a few theories for Void since then lol. So he's the leader of the God Hand that consists of 5 members. Isn't it odd how he himself has 6 fingers? It's a little detail in character design that always bugged me.
Anyways, my theory is what if The God Hand really has 6 fingers in total? And the 6th member is actually.... Skull Knight. But SK acts like a counter finger, opposed to the rest. Maybe that's why he's so focused on Void for resigning him to a cruel fate. Yet they all work to move Causality forward according to the Idea of Evils design. God Hand helping the Apostles while SK helps Guts and the crew. I didn't come to this conclusion until playing Elden Ring (its inspired by Berserk and GoT duh) with the 2 fingers and the Golden Order being very opposed to the 3 Fingers of Frenzied Flame of Chaos. Combined they make one hand but at some point the Greater Will divided and came to opposition and split into 2 entities.
@@-S.a.k. very possible
Zodd being a part of Gaeseric is an interesting theory. I always assumed he was an Apostle of one of the previous Godhand members, maybe Void. Your theory is better though.
Hi, just want to leave a little comment to think about.
You already stated many resemblances to the Sumerian history and I must applaud. Chapeau! Yet I need to give you a further hint to King Gaiseric and his origin. You say, that in your opinion Zodd is a part of the former king as they split up in two halves. You may want to read a bit of the Gilgamesh Epic and find out more about the >companion< of Gilgamesh, who was the cause for the King to seek the secret of eternal life (Hint: 'Nosferatu') ... and by coincidence is said to have 2 horns and fought >lions< and wolves.
What may also be a hint: King Gilgamesh's rulership wasn't known for his kindness.
The godhand member @3:14 looks like he could be a lion but also the sun because the crest looks like the suns rays and also a lions mane but he also looks like a plant or flower maybe a sun flower the crest looks like the pedals and the face the bud or middle of the plant and the body looks like its stem and roots.
that’s what I first thought
The godhand which is just a ribcage and mouth seem like it's a golem of Void after hearing the SK/Zod duality theory.
I enjoyed your video sir, you earned another subscriber 😎
The lion headed diety is missing its teeth to an exaggerated extent, imo.
Thats interesting.
I kept an open mind and my opinion is that you are really stretching on your research to find out if we've seen evidence of these past god hand members before.
Zodd being SK makes so much sense as to why his face is never shown. Zodd got the body and sk is just a shell
Do you think the same will happen to the Moonlight child/ Griffith ? Is it possible 🤔
@@spectro2324 already has
@@nlewis2386 a permanent split, they still share the same body.
@@spectro2324 nah because he needs the child to inhabit the physical realm. His strength is also his weakness
to add on: the former godhand looks more like spirits because the world was more connected to spirits, hence their appearance. The new god hand have more human like appearance because humans are less connected to spirits.
Man you stretch these theories pretty thin
nobody:
TD: now at this point in the video you’ll probably thinking I’m utterly insane
3:01 MEDUSA more likelly (On the shield)
As horrible as the eclipse was you cant be but a little inspired by Griffith and his ambition to be in power, and also I think anyone after being tortured brutally for a year lossing any capability to take care of yourself and then you are offered by literal FUCKING GODS that you can have it all back and more by saying two words I think most people know what there answer would be YES. Maybe I’m wrong but really put yourself in his situation.
I like how the writer allows the reader to understand his position. Also the idea of sacrificing one single band of mercenaries for what's basically a shortcut to an utopian kingdom that unites the people, doesnt seem a very bad deal.
Mercenaries who would otherwise thrive off the perpetuation of all sorts of petty wars and serve any lord whoever pays the most.
@@hab0272 Yeah but they weren`t just mercenaries to Griffith. I mean that`s the whole point behind the sacrifice right? It must be someone that truly a loved one. Even as mercenaries The Band Of the Hawk didn`t fit the mold. Griffith had taken each of them under his wing (no pun intended) saving and protecting many if not most of them. He cared and respected every member (which was reciprocal) knew what kind of person they and always are unlike most mercenary leaders who most likely don`t even know the names of everyone in their gang. When someone lost their life he mourned instead of feeling glad because it meant one person less to split the money with. In fact I doubt he ever really looked at them as mercenaries but true friends. Family may or may not be the best world but he sure did have a very strong bond with them. His desire of greatness was always what drove him but he ended up tortured and abused by that dungeon freak which surely messed up his mind and his body was just a useless husk. When you have in this all in mind and combine it with the way they manipulated him it`s not that hard to see why he chose to sacrifice them all...
Hmm actually when I think about it now it was just the fact that he was super jelly that Casca preferred getting poked by the Dragon Slayer rather than his tiny sword lol....
Nobody would want to mark their loved one with a mark that would get them chased by demonic entity's until they are brought to hell
the guy with the crystal beard looks like the crystal dragon
You didn't really get to the sideways mouth skeletal one, but there were a lot of interesting concepts presented here. I don't know how accurate some of them are, especially the one with Zodd having been a part of Giseric and separating from him. That seems a little far fetched to me. The topic of discussion about how old gods are forgotten was really interesting, though. I have heard it said before that the old God Hand group could be reflective of the beliefs of the error that were more elemental whereas the newer God Hand members have more humanoid forms. Anyway, seeing that there once was a different group of God Hand got me really excited. We've been wondering about that possibility for a long time. I hope we get some more information sometime soon because the overarching plot and lore is extremely fascinating in this series.
Maybe the old god hand wasn't replaced at all. Two hands perhaps? Maybe the fifth member of the old hand is behind Void.
I saw that chapter as void being born kinda like how Femto was born and that void is the Griffith to skull knight
Good theory, I do not agree but it was nice with a new take. It is possible that a godhand member cycle out when a new one comes in or that they can be killed off. They probably got killed by skull knight
And what do you have to say about the one between void and the female hand?
If you look at the last OG chapter you'll see the blacksmith that made the berserker armor (and skull knights armor) call skull knights armor a coffin. Which if the armour is anything like the berserker armor then it would also, im assuming, completely drain the knight but giving him more strength and agility beyond the berserker armour. Maybe the goal of the armor was a place to house the rage and soul of skull knight to be trapped by the armor but also given enough time he needs to defeat the god hand.
That's actually the worst example of making theories I've seen in a long time. The connection is based on surface level resemblances, and there is no plot evidence to back such highly improbable instances.
The high probable evidences are the historical aspects & logic that very much attached to Berserk overall. Just like IRL history, we know at some point there were ancient gods worshiping & belief system (animism, dynamism, polytheism, totemism, paganism, etc), such as the 4 heavenly kings/angels & the sea god.
I do have my own theory that the mysterious god hands in Void's eclipse most likely supposed to represent the corrupted state of this 4 heavenly kings deities, the base belief of magic/alchemy/astral plane. Basically the eclipse in its essence was a dark summoning ritual that manipulate the causality itself. This is also inline with how Schrieke talked about Holy See scriptures & teachings were likely a "modified" version of previous beliefs, a beliefs that directly connected through magic aka the 4 heavenly guardian/kings/angels. (read the demon horde arc)
Also he said plainly that these were his observations only. He never once claimed it to be true.
@@bryantaylor9874 this is true, but those still are badly done observations. I know that theories about fiction don't require any high standards, but I think the person should know when he clearly underperformes.
@@crozraven yes. The thing about beliefs and analogy with gods is actually the best part. What bugs me off, though, are connections to Zodd and Skull Knight based on just their attires. The Godhand are bound to represent general human beliefs of their time, as well as creating and multiplying this beliefs. Hawing a lion on a belt is as much a sign of connection to particular Godhand, as for real world human wearing a cross is a sign of knowing Christ or saint personally. We could as well say that Whale Knights from Chudder were at some point personally connected to the Sea God.
And there are many themes that just are repetitive in general throughout Berserk, so they can add some credibility to existing theory based on some other evidence, but they're not evidence on their own.
Lmao you’re taking it to heart
I feel like Void sacrificed the previous god hand and will do so again with the current one. I wouldn't even discount a Griffith guts alliance down the road as both will come to see themselves manipulated by causality by void and the idea of evil.
I don't think king Gaiseric worshipped the god hand I think to prove how powerful he was he hunted them down killing them one by one destroying the ideas they represent. Then his kingdom had nothing to worship so I collapsed into nothingness
Whenever time is brought up and empathized as a variable in any story it makes you ask the question why is the story taking place now? What I'm getting at is why is this epoch special, it has to be almost by definition the sheer existence of the hero in this epoch and not another one is proof.
I believe that every 216 years, one member of the godhand steps down and becomes the egg of the king, for the next mortal. I also believe that at some point Zodd will betray griffith and or vice versa
That's just scale armor bruh
Elden Ring Moment
You had me til the bull nuts 😂
Beardman's beard reminds me of Grunbeld's apostle form. That isn't too farfetched is it...?
I like the video and some of the speculation in the design of some of these older godhand members, especially the far right looking like a version of artemis. I think it's really interesting how little we know about even the latter godhand. We can guess Slan is about lust, fertility, sexuality and she even has what seems to be cult devoted to her in the Conviction Arc. Conrad, we see his image formed by a mass of plague rats once in Conviction arc and later at the end of Millenium Falcon arc with the merging of worlds. I think this links him to the idea of pestilience. Ubik is mysterious, somehow seems to correspond to Conrad, he leads Griffith into his memories and dreams. We see him a the merging of worlds walking in a Bosch-esque scene which just speaks more about dreams or possibly nightmares; overall i think he's the Dream Guy, maybe responsible for events like all the people in Wyndham having the same dream about the Hawk of Light, also probably connected to the ambition thats driven by dreams like Griffith's. Void, from the story of the prophet imprisoned and tortured in Gaiseric's time, might represent something like prophesy, fate or ... wait for it ... Causality itself. Collective belief in the inevitability of fate might be the root of Void as an entity. It would similarly make sense that there was a godhand of fertility (far right) in the past, and others that correspond likely to concepts important to the people of that time and context.
They are the Left Godhand, Void is the leader of both, hence why he has 6 fingers.
Fucking hell man you are seeing lions everywhere lol
That godhand doesn't even look like a lion to begin with, looks nothing like the thing on Zod's cape, and the thing on Gaiseric shield sure as fuck doesn't look like a lion, more like some kind of Medusa/Gorgon lol
What if the god hand members change their appearance and powers as the world view changes what it Slan IS ARTEMIS or Ubic was Poseidon.
Zodd is not King Gaeseric. It’s implied (imo) that Zodd is a very old apostle, who has seen at least one other eclipse event. As he’s 250-300 years old, and he’s just an especially powerful apostle who has fought off the skull knight for a long time. He was most likely a powerful human like the moonlight knight, fire dragon, the hunter, and other especially powerful apostles
Zodd and Skull Knight are not the same person split into two entities. It’s stated that Gaeseric physically died during the eclipse event, and it’s heavily implied that his soul is trapped with magic as skull knight
I think the female god hand member is actually a reference to shub-niggurath from H.P. Lovecraft Cthulhu mythos
Didn’t Gaeseric (spelling) have the eye on his sword just like Zodd does?
Who tf looks at zodd and figures “oh look at that _man._ “
We know that Skull Knight was some sort of Guts of the past. We also know that we have older God Hand members that are no longer around.
We know that Skull Knight has been fighting the God Hand all along. And we also know that Void is the key.
Maybe we are looking too far into it and Void is the last member of the God Hand alive, Skull Knight nearly succeeded but ultimately failed and he is guiding Guts to finish what he started, while Void is rebuilding the God Hand to continue on the original plan that was nearly foiled, maybe now with Griffith he can accomplish that.
Zodd was the former deity.
LMAO that artemis one was a fuckin stretch
lion thing is interesting, but when I look at the god hand that you say resembles a lion I see more the facial expression as the emphasized then the notion it might be a lion, It almost looks like a tragedy mask from theater. As an artist myself this it the more important part to that character. I am interested in seeing how this could inform your theory because I think overall your connections are super interesting! Just wanted to give my thoughts on the matter. (I say as an artist the details very much matter, and stuff like the eye expression and lack of teeth in the god creature might mean theres no connection to the lion on Zodd / skull knight to this specific god hand member and you can see why else the lion symbolism in Zodd and Skull Knight would be connected etc )
Yoi forgot that the apostles said every 260 year a new member of the godhand is born
Not enough talk about mouth, ribcage, and spine
So because the former God Hand member has a beard, he is automatically linked to Poseidon? Zeus is also depicted with a beard and controls lightning. Ares has been depicted with a beard and is the God of War....we can keep going and going....other than your Greek Gods take, its not a bad theory.
Interesting Take!
VOID HAS WINGS TOO
I think the guy to the left is ganishka
I think it's pretty obvious that Skull Knight killed the older members, since he seems to have mega beef with Void in particular who would be the last of the godhand who ruined his life
Oh you sweet summer child, Skullnight is not strong enough to kill a godhand member, atleast not on his own. He couldn't even harm Void during Griffith's eclipse, and he also failed to harm Femto with his sword of actuation. So there's no way Sk can kill a godhand when he's clearly not strong enough to do so on his own.
@@thabangsibanda3282 void and femto are also the strongest godhands though. who knows tbh
theories usually have a foundation
Cool video. But some conclusions come out of nowhere.
A man with a beard automatically looks like Poseidon? Speaking as an arthistorian, there are a lot of other theories one could conclude from that.
Also the statute that looks like Artemis could also be any statue of a woman from ancient greece.
What if it’s like Szayalappero and his brother from BLEACH. One the two fused they became unstoppably powerful. I wonder if that was the same with Zodd and Skull Knight. If they fused they gained the power to defeat the Godhand.
Think about it, in a fucked up way the demon child is a "fused" vessel, I think the demon child is the main key
I have a theory... There is a book called "the fairy queen".. I think the Red cross knight is the skull knight.. and Una is the fairly queen.. and I to theor story arc will parallel the fairy queen book.. 🤔 maybe... Maybe not.. idk..
Explain more. You might be on the money 🤔
so the weird thing ? the early god-hand are either babylonian or greek god types .
Some of this has good points, some of this is quite a stretch, but I like it!
I waited for the plotttwist that Void is Gaiseric
That would be a hard sell, though Miura is a genius soooo
On one hand you make interesting points, namely re: The Sea God. The rest of the figures may have been relevant at one point and later captured in artwork; statues, etchings, armour, etc.
If the old members were killed, who was powerful enough to do that?
Who says you have to be powerful to kill a god hand.. it’s likely knowledge and conditions that can kill them
The one who put them there at the first place
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The best way to end the story is Griffith getting defeated and take his own life by throwing himself on top of the cliff
What if the current "Godhand" is a precursor to the eventual "Godhead"..
We just gunna ignore that zodd said himself he ascended 300 years ago?
good video
What you are actually describing is What really is in Experience
SLAN WAS THE KINGS SIDE PIECE
Didn’t think of Zod and skull knight being both half’s of the same person but I could definitely see that being the case
I just wonder who tf was powerful enough to kill 4 damn god hand members!
Flora, by summoning the 4 elemental kings to fight alongside SK.
We do not know if these proto god hands were killed or just simply ceased to exist & replaced though...
This is why Void's machinations with Holy See religion is a biggest part of a program to weave the causality & human desires.
Zod is only 300 years old tho…. And the king and skull knight is from 1000 years ago.
I've got a better idea for you. Ganishka is reincarnation of dethroned Poseidon deity
Dude, what the heck are you smoking? Most of the things you say make no sense.
On the lion part is just painful to hear. Zodd is a lion. The reason why he would have a lion on what he wear is pretty much the same why other apostles have dragons or snakes on their armors. Is a representation of himself.
That face on the shield is a human face, not a lion face. That is the face of a old bearded man with long hair.
And that god hand looks like a lion just because of that thing around its head. The face is more human like.
The Artemis part sounded ok till you started talking about that statue in that panel. That thing look to me more like some kind of armor than bull testicles.
I have so many other things to say here, but I will just leave it here.
I agree, a lot of his ideas about the less informed parts of the story make no sense. This is the work of someone with an overactive imagination for fan-fiction that are not congruent with the lore of Berserk at all.
I don’t think the intentions were that deep, to be fair. In my opinion, he’s just throwing fun ideas around. A sad reminder that, for the rest of time most likely, all we’ll be able to do about Beserk is wonder that the finished story would have been. I’m not a big fan of anime or manga (the dialogue isn’t written in a way I find immersive), but I LOVED Berserk. It’s the only manga I own copies of. I hope that, in the future, some big budget streaming service and a passionate director create a truly high-end miniseries adaptation of the content we do have, and they could end it however they liked with the condition that the ending is just the ending of that miniseries and not canon to Miura’s source material once it passes the available plot. That would be amazing.
@@Sam-lo8yj That would be great. I also hope that in the future a team does pick up the manga again and continue where Kentaro Miura left off, but as a different title and perhaps as a separate canon from the Miura timeline, so as not to step on Miura's legacy.
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Any theory about the big lips guy?
a vagina face because at that time they worshipped the feminine/fertility
You think this is weird ? I have thought about alien and extraterrian in berserk others World similar to guts one, with peoples
And with cosmical creature like elden ring trying to parazyte worlds and rule over humanity and god hand can be in different planet
that first dude is fucking Ganishka