I really like this set of Sparrows Gridlock progressive locks - there just isn’t anything like it on the market - and it’s a real challenge too. I still have not picked that 10 wafer core! :-) www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/new6.htm
Brilliant review. Fantastic bit of kit and very well made. Put some silicone tubing (local fishing/angling shop, it's sold for making fishing rigs) over the tips of your tension tool, it'll stop it falling out so easy. It takes away a tiny amount of feed back, but at the same time prevents you from digging in the serrations on the wafers too hard due to it's spongyness.
Excellent review! I've been picking these things for maybe 2-3 months now actively. I've managed to open up the 10 wafer core using a combination of the Warlock and the Rockout jiggler/pick that has the deeper indentations (as opposed to the shallow one). Using a regular bottom of keyway tension wrench, I put maybe medium tension and put the Rockout jiggler/pick in directly in and out like a rake as well as rocking it up and down. (I do not use the Rockout jiggler for any tension at all.) Taking out the jiggler takes a little bit of finesse, but after that, I put the Warlock in and rake it back and forth, hitting the wafers I see that are still sticking up while maintaining tension with the tension wrench. Anywhere between 5 seconds to 2 minutes of using the Warlock at this point, the 10 wafer core opens. I tried picking the damn thing SPP and it got nowhere fast after picking open the 6 wafer one many, many times. Decided to give the rockouts a try with my trusty Warlock and lo and behold, the thing finally opens!
I have seen several versions of auto picks that surfaced after these came out. Lol all the vultures jumping at a opportunity. To put it nicely. Lol But the whole idea of serrated wafer pins... has been a thorn in my side. Lol I have made several versions of a serrated and spooled type wafer pins all unsuccessful, until I tried to simply copy the Sparrows floor plan on it. Lol And frankly I believe that the way they have exploited the serrated edges is phenomenal and the only way to get them to hang on to the body of the lock. Hats off to ya Sparrows!!!
If I may suggest I used the Sparrows Octo Rake along with heavy tension and successfully picked the #10 multiple times. Also I used a modified Allen Wrench for tension as opposed to the tension tool offered with the Gridlock set.
Cool piece of kit! this set is based on Ford vehicles and is very common in their cars and trucks and it's very similar to other major auto manufacturers from all over the world excluding BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagen, Jaguar Porche Volvo Seat Rover and some higher range Honda, They tend to use laser cut keys with dual wafer style cylinders minus the Jags and some fords with that funky disc detaining rod looking key, which is the easiest to get through ;-)
Yeah very similar to the pre-1985 Ford cars, before they changed to the Chubb lock (the really spiky one) which was quickly followed by the Tibbe lock.
I never tried automotive locks... You said they are repinnable and the value in time for a practice set is the possibility of using it again and again, so what abour a kit with wafers, springs and so on ?
Paola frege you could easily just reuse and reposition the wagers in the 3 cores to give hundreds of different challenges... just make sure you know which wafers go back into which positions in which lock! :-)
I was initially confused as the audio is about 1s ahead of the video so the clicks were happening then 1s later I saw the core moving. Are the outsides of the cores made of plastic? Do you think they will hold up as the serrations of the wafers grind in to them? Great review!
Hi Lock Noob, Interesting kit and review, although it didn't show in the video, real life locks have matching tiny protrusions in the housing ( wafer chambers ) both top and bottom, to grab the serrated wafers. Under tension the wafers can lock up and resist moving with a pick. Also if the combination of the 10 wafer lock is changed and can be reassembled, if you can't pick it, as I see it, the core may not be easily removed. Is this the case? These style of locks in actual vehicles can be very difficult to pick, that's why the Lishi picks were developed, however these locks would probably be good practice locks for the Lishi. Regards, Brian.
Best value: Southord C2010, nicest starter set: Multipick Elite, best all rounder Sparrows Tuxedo (they do tonnes of sets though). Those are my favourites. It might be worth buying a few single short hooks from a range of manufacturers to see what you like first :-)
Thanks for doing this review, it sounds like you like these. I missed when you are doing the give a way so just email me and I'll get my address right out too you! LOL
Thanks for the review. Do you feel that the plastic lock body is going to resist wear in the face of ham-fisted amateurs (like myself) sawing away at the wafers?
I really like this set of Sparrows Gridlock progressive locks - there just isn’t anything like it on the market - and it’s a real challenge too. I still have not picked that 10 wafer core! :-) www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/new6.htm
These and the keys for $34.50 isn't bad at all. Seems like a good way to learn serrations, wafers, and automotive picking all at once
I recon so :-)
Brilliant review. Fantastic bit of kit and very well made. Put some silicone tubing (local fishing/angling shop, it's sold for making fishing rigs) over the tips of your tension tool, it'll stop it falling out so easy. It takes away a tiny amount of feed back, but at the same time prevents you from digging in the serrations on the wafers too hard due to it's spongyness.
Thanks and nice tip :-)
Excellent review! I've been picking these things for maybe 2-3 months now actively. I've managed to open up the 10 wafer core using a combination of the Warlock and the Rockout jiggler/pick that has the deeper indentations (as opposed to the shallow one). Using a regular bottom of keyway tension wrench, I put maybe medium tension and put the Rockout jiggler/pick in directly in and out like a rake as well as rocking it up and down. (I do not use the Rockout jiggler for any tension at all.) Taking out the jiggler takes a little bit of finesse, but after that, I put the Warlock in and rake it back and forth, hitting the wafers I see that are still sticking up while maintaining tension with the tension wrench. Anywhere between 5 seconds to 2 minutes of using the Warlock at this point, the 10 wafer core opens.
I tried picking the damn thing SPP and it got nowhere fast after picking open the 6 wafer one many, many times. Decided to give the rockouts a try with my trusty Warlock and lo and behold, the thing finally opens!
Thanks for watching :-)
Well done, never seen a wafferlock progressive before. Thanks for sharing,🗝
Thanks 🙏
I appreciate this. Very informative.
I have seen several versions of auto picks that surfaced after these came out. Lol all the vultures jumping at a opportunity. To put it nicely. Lol
But the whole idea of serrated wafer pins... has been a thorn in my side. Lol I have made several versions of a serrated and spooled type wafer pins all unsuccessful, until I tried to simply copy the Sparrows floor plan on it. Lol
And frankly I believe that the way they have exploited the serrated edges is phenomenal and the only way to get them to hang on to the body of the lock.
Hats off to ya Sparrows!!!
I’ve not seen any similar sets - if you have any links, I’d be really interested to see the competition :-)
Lock Noob
I will looks around for them.
your review was better than Bills on this,cheers you are the best at explaining this,Mal in Canada!
Thanks 🙏
If I may suggest I used the Sparrows Octo Rake along with heavy tension and successfully picked the #10 multiple times. Also I used a modified Allen Wrench for tension as opposed to the tension tool offered with the Gridlock set.
I don’t really want to just get an open, I want to get an open through spp :-)
Ahh, I understand. That is definitely a good challenge.
Excellent suggestions for improvement.
Thank you :-)
Nice review ... looks like a nice offering👍🏻
Thanks :-)
Great video on wafer anatomy!
Thanks :-)
Great review.
Thanks :-)
Awesome review LN
Thanks :-)
Another great review buddy! As always, thanks for sharing :)
Thanks :-)
Cool piece of kit! this set is based on Ford vehicles and is very common in their cars and trucks and it's very similar to other major auto manufacturers from all over the world excluding BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagen, Jaguar Porche Volvo Seat Rover and some higher range Honda, They tend to use laser cut keys with dual wafer style cylinders minus the Jags and some fords with that funky disc detaining rod looking key, which is the easiest to get through ;-)
Yeah very similar to the pre-1985 Ford cars, before they changed to the Chubb lock (the really spiky one) which was quickly followed by the Tibbe lock.
+Gazz R this style can be found in present vehicles as well
It sure can :)
Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
These keys look like the ones on my mom's 2002 expedition.
Great review!, very informative
Thanks :-)
Very interesting locks set, the wafers serrations are cool, great review as always, thanks for showing ;o)))
Thank you my friend :-)
I do really like the Watlock against automotive locks.
It’s good for rocking, but I like to pick :-)
very cool!
Thanks :-)
I got the 10 today
Awesome!
I never tried automotive locks... You said they are repinnable and the value in time for a practice set is the possibility of using it again and again, so what abour a kit with wafers, springs and so on ?
Paola frege you could easily just reuse and reposition the wagers in the 3 cores to give hundreds of different challenges... just make sure you know which wafers go back into which positions in which lock! :-)
These would be pretty tough against the spring tension of a typical ignition switch... yes?
I recon so :-)
I was initially confused as the audio is about 1s ahead of the video so the clicks were happening then 1s later I saw the core moving. Are the outsides of the cores made of plastic? Do you think they will hold up as the serrations of the wafers grind in to them? Great review!
It’s all metal on metal. No metal on plastic :-)
I never knew there was such a thing as serrated wafers and automotive picks so there you go.😕👍🏽Not a bad kit really.🍺😎
Came across these today from BB's review. www.lockpicks.com/catalog/product/view/id/7240/s/5ap-gsp/
Yeah, it’s pretty good :-)
Hi Lock Noob, Interesting kit and review, although it didn't show in the video, real life locks have matching tiny protrusions in the housing ( wafer chambers ) both top and bottom, to grab the serrated wafers. Under tension the wafers can lock up and resist moving with a pick. Also if the combination of the 10 wafer lock is changed and can be reassembled, if you can't pick it, as I see it, the core may not be easily removed. Is this the case? These style of locks in actual vehicles can be very difficult to pick, that's why the Lishi picks were developed, however these locks would probably be good practice locks for the Lishi. Regards, Brian.
Thanks for the info Brian :-)
Dear lock noob i live in the EU and i want to start lock picking. What pick set/kit would you recommend i get? Thank you for the awesome vids!
Best value: Southord C2010, nicest starter set: Multipick Elite, best all rounder Sparrows Tuxedo (they do tonnes of sets though). Those are my favourites. It might be worth buying a few single short hooks from a range of manufacturers to see what you like first :-)
Thanks Lock Noob
Thanks :-)
good pick again cant find where to buy them !!!!
www.sparrowslockpicks.com/product_p/new6.htm
Have you beaten the 10 yet? Thanks for the review, very detailed 👍🏻
No, but to be honest, other locks have gotten in the way!
one day.....
It’s worth getting IMO (if you are curious about automotive locks that is!). :-)
Are WE reviewing?
I need a sample to be able to review it.
Thanks for doing this review, it sounds like you like these. I missed when you are doing the give a way so just email me and I'll get my address right out too you! LOL
Lo, nice try :-)
Thanks for the review. Do you feel that the plastic lock body is going to resist wear in the face of ham-fisted amateurs (like myself) sawing away at the wafers?
bashful the insides are all metal and should be very hard wearing
Ah, okay - thanks. For some reason I thought the body was fully plastic, with the wafers working against plastic.
Very cool review my friend nice little set👍😊👍😊😎✌✌
Thanks Leon :-)
Lollll I was just about to ask u if u picked the 10! Then I saw ur comment! If u pick it do a video on it!
If I pick it, I’ll certainly do a vid. Tough lock though :-)